#JOYCE. KILL!!!
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frodo-a-gogo · 9 months ago
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also final word on this probably- I *like* Joyce Messier a great deal as a character. I think she's cool and interesting. I find it fascinating that she tends to approach things very bluntly. the words she uses and the manner in which she analyzes things, this is sort of an instance of a character who knows exactly *what she is* and articulates it in a manner congruent with the writers of the game. she is, as she says wryly but honestly, "a bourgeois woman". i cant think of too many rich people who would without prompting and prodding, self identify with marxist social taxonomies in this way, even with a thin veil of ironic self deprecation. She's educated. she knows the words and the motivating logics of class analysis. and shes *cool*. harry picks that up. honesty is cool. bluntness is cool. cynicism is cool. she is quite open about her place in the world and how she conceives of it. unlike a lot of other powerful figures in the game, i dont think shes completely swallowed by self justifying rhetoric the way, say, sunday friend is. or she is up to a point. she knows about countercultural movements and she has affinities for them and is also aware that they inevitably are consumed by capital. (this, by the way, is kind of complex in that like. ok its a depressing reality but also i think if the de team was fully bought into that line of thinking, they would not make this game. it is telling that joyce of all people would critique cindy on the basis of capital subsuming revolutionary art. I dont think joyce is wrong per se, but i think she is drawn to that line of thinking because it is *very comforting for someone of her class position to dismiss the value and power of revolutionary art and critique of capital* just a thought) She's disgusting in that her power is not rightfully hers. her position is not rightfully hers. she is actively repressing and oppressing others in service of disgusting, semi-fascistic, hypercapitalist forces. shes enjoying the comforts and benefits that such a role allows her. shes disgusting shes frustrating shes profoundly arrogant (as her clash with evrart claire proves definitively). Her self satisfied idiocy is what allows her to play with fire and foolishly assume she cannot be burned. She's smart but her comfortable position puts the blinders on her and so she's also pretty fucking stupid. and shes also deeply deeply sad. I empathize. I pity her. She's so fucking sad. I don't think she is drawn to self medication and self destruction through constant pale exposure or all that rueful nostalgic rumination for no reason. She knows what she is to the world and she knows what she's doing and she's too cowardly and comfortable and self interested to change, but she's too self-aware to ignore it completely. I think she probably dislikes herself to some degree and i think its destroying her. Like most of the cast of the game, she's complex and deeply human. She's hateful, but I also think she is too well realized to hate, at least not for me.
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leona-florianova · 18 days ago
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was looking through my files and fount something named "Wife visibility.sai2" ... Completely forgot what it was.. it was this
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buqbite · 4 months ago
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missanthropicprinciple · 3 months ago
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Terry-Thomas | selected filmography + PSAs | 1936-1966
Once in a Million 1936
It's Love Again 1936
For Freedom 1940
Under Your Hat 1940
If You Don't Save Paper (PSA) 1948
Copy Book Please (PSA) 1948
A Date with a Dream 1948
The Brass Monkey 1948
Helter Skelter 1949
Melody Club 1949
What's Cooking? (PSA) 1951
Private's Progress 1956
The Green Man 1956
Brothers in Law 1956
Lucky Jim 1957
The Naked Truth 1957
Blue Murder at St Trinian's 1957
Happy Is the Bride 1958
Too Many Crooks 1959
Carlton-Browne of the F.O. 1959
I'm All Right Jack 1959
School for Scoundrels 1960
Make Mine Mink 1960
A Matter of WHO 1961
Bachelor Flat 1962
Kill or Cure 1962
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World 1963
How to Murder Your Wife 1965
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines 1965
La Grande Vadrouille 1966
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chirpsythismorning · 2 years ago
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lucystark12 · 3 months ago
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upon rewatching the first season of stranger things, joyce is the best one. season one joyce solos literally every other character
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demadogs · 5 months ago
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oh my god guys why the fuck would they kill karen lmao
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theshippirate22 · 1 year ago
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never forget that Joyce, Hopper, and Murray took Alexei to the hospital after he was shot and he recovered entirely besides a little scar and he became an american citizen and now he lives with Murray and he drinks a lot of (cherry) slurpees and watches a lot of cartoons and keeps his stuffed Woody Woodpecker on his bed and every so often he calls Robin so she can practice her Russian and he can practice his English and he loves the kids and sends them money Murray hid (albeit not well) “specifically for emergencies” on their birthdays and he goes to joyce and hopper’s for dinner every other sunday and everyone calls him uncle alyosha and he and dustin build “machinas” together and he helps El with her math homework and
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hellinhawkins · 3 months ago
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jonathanbyersphd · 5 months ago
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Anyways, Lonnie very much abused Will and Jonathan just you know in case you forgot
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givehimthemedicine · 8 months ago
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stranger faves screenshot game
need to know who's been your single favorite character at any given point in Stranger Things using screenshots of the exact moment that person first became your fave.
this is not a ranking or a top list! this is for your #1 spot only and who it has belonged to over the years. start with whoever first stood out from the ensemble to you and add a new pic every time someone surpassed them as your new favorite. last pic is your current fave.
I probably already know who your faves are but I wanna know what exact frame of film did it for you.
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mine: Joyce lying to Karen. I felt that in my bones -> baby Eleven becomes my legal daughter. hello 911 I'm having chest pains from needing to hug a fictional character -> Max lies to her counselor. hey I identify with this character more suddenly, good things must be coming her way this season! (tagging some friends but if you see this you're invited) @bananananurr @elmaxjunkie @heroesbyler @aemiron-main @elevenmayfieldz @fantasticdragonglitter @reikunrei @gshepgf @rogueddie @sacchrineskies @henrysglock
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dreamofbecoming · 2 years ago
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i love bisexual eddie munson, but specifically in like a shang from mulan kind of way, you know? like he knew he liked boys, that made sense. just another way he’s different from everyone else, just another reason he’s a freak. so why bother examining it? he’s gay, hawkins hates him, might as well lean into it. maybe chrissy was the first time a girl made him feel butterflies (or bats?) in his stomach, and it confused him so bad he didn’t know what the hell to do about it except make a fool of himself flirting with the queen. maybe he took one look at nancy wheeler with a sawed off and went “yeah ok holy shit i get it, i see why steve was willing to burn his life down for her and why robin keeps making moon eyes at her and why jonathan lost his mind and pointed his camera through steve’s window like an insane person.” like he’s still into steve, obviously. the man is swanning about shirtless and bloody in an apocalyptic wasteland like the embodiment of all of eddie’s weirdest fantasies, there’s no way he’s not into steve. but i just love the idea of eddie being the one going through an Upside Down sexuality crisis (TM) rather than steve. what is happening to him?? why does he suddenly want to kiss everyone??? get it together munson you are running from a goddamn mob!!!
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amesalt-blog · 3 months ago
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I REALLY REALLY REALLY need A LOT screentime for Jonathan Byers in season 5
Story began from Byers's family and their drama – and let's be honest Jonathan never had so much time in show like in season 1 (maybe in season 2 but still not a lot as in the beginning). Yeah he had some moments in season 3. Yeah we knew about his troubles in season 4 and he had sweetest dialog with Will but again – his storyline is pretty small.
He and Joyce need a talk. In S 3&4 Joyce was about her story with Hopper and "I need to know what kind of shit happens" but not about her kids – and mostly this part about Jonathan. He's still parentified boy who choose to stay in Lenora because family need him. And Joyce should clearly told him that he doesn't need to put all this responsabilities about her, Will and El.
And yeah all Jancy stuff. These two also need a talk about their future and their troubles. If they stay together after this – I'll be happy. If they break up and go diferent paths – I'll be okay with this and accept this because these two deserved to be happy. And Jonathan with Nancy and Joyce should fully understand that he's not alone, he can made his own dreams come true and he's not like his father (and never become someone like him).
And yeah – he has the biggest chances to die (he's not so popular (maybe one of the least favourite character in main cast) and ST fanbase will not be angry for this) and... I don't want it.
Because he deserved to live for himself that he want (and maybe go to NYU)
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brionysea · 8 months ago
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just realised that with the chrissy/jonathan parallels of doing drugs to cope that if jonathan was in hawkins he easily could've been the dead teenager on the news... and we already know s4 max has a million parallels to s2 will.... everyone say thank you joyce byers for being so genius and moving her family away from the hell town before the devil came a-knockin'
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moderndayamymarch · 1 year ago
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hawkeye pierce is such an odysseus. like his entire thing is that he WANTS TO GO HOME. my man just wants to go home to see his loved ones but can’t because the powers that be are making it impossible (hawkeye’s is the us military and odysseus’s is the gods) by throwing just off-the-wall obstacles at him. and along the way he just keeps losing everybody.
not to mention he is a clever trickster who totally would’ve played the “nobody” joke on frank if he could’ve found a way.
also odysseus was a reluctant draftee into the trojan war too (he tried to get out of it by feigning madness through salting the earth of his farmlands).
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messrsbyler · 2 years ago
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joyce “who are you gonna call? the police?” byers, jonathan “just like every other suburbian girl who thinks is rebelling” byers, and will “is that why you don’t have any friends?” byers
they didn’t come to play
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