#JOYCE. KILL!!!
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also final word on this probably- I *like* Joyce Messier a great deal as a character. I think she's cool and interesting. I find it fascinating that she tends to approach things very bluntly. the words she uses and the manner in which she analyzes things, this is sort of an instance of a character who knows exactly *what she is* and articulates it in a manner congruent with the writers of the game. she is, as she says wryly but honestly, "a bourgeois woman". i cant think of too many rich people who would without prompting and prodding, self identify with marxist social taxonomies in this way, even with a thin veil of ironic self deprecation. She's educated. she knows the words and the motivating logics of class analysis. and shes *cool*. harry picks that up. honesty is cool. bluntness is cool. cynicism is cool. she is quite open about her place in the world and how she conceives of it. unlike a lot of other powerful figures in the game, i dont think shes completely swallowed by self justifying rhetoric the way, say, sunday friend is. or she is up to a point. she knows about countercultural movements and she has affinities for them and is also aware that they inevitably are consumed by capital. (this, by the way, is kind of complex in that like. ok its a depressing reality but also i think if the de team was fully bought into that line of thinking, they would not make this game. it is telling that joyce of all people would critique cindy on the basis of capital subsuming revolutionary art. I dont think joyce is wrong per se, but i think she is drawn to that line of thinking because it is *very comforting for someone of her class position to dismiss the value and power of revolutionary art and critique of capital* just a thought) She's disgusting in that her power is not rightfully hers. her position is not rightfully hers. she is actively repressing and oppressing others in service of disgusting, semi-fascistic, hypercapitalist forces. shes enjoying the comforts and benefits that such a role allows her. shes disgusting shes frustrating shes profoundly arrogant (as her clash with evrart claire proves definitively). Her self satisfied idiocy is what allows her to play with fire and foolishly assume she cannot be burned. She's smart but her comfortable position puts the blinders on her and so she's also pretty fucking stupid. and shes also deeply deeply sad. I empathize. I pity her. She's so fucking sad. I don't think she is drawn to self medication and self destruction through constant pale exposure or all that rueful nostalgic rumination for no reason. She knows what she is to the world and she knows what she's doing and she's too cowardly and comfortable and self interested to change, but she's too self-aware to ignore it completely. I think she probably dislikes herself to some degree and i think its destroying her. Like most of the cast of the game, she's complex and deeply human. She's hateful, but I also think she is too well realized to hate, at least not for me.
#i envy her obviously but i also pity her a fucking lot#i think she lives an adventurous appealing life that is largely facilitated by her moral cowardice#and is honestly characterized as profoundly empty and disheartening for her#shes a vibrant person and that vibrancy is being turned to ugly ends and its killing the spark#oppressive structures are bad for the oppressors too#joyce is a middleman to power but she is still in a place of power over the ppl she interacts with#that grants her a lot of excellent perks but its making her miserable and it renders her deeply pathetic imo#disco elysium#joyce messier
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was looking through my files and fount something named "Wife visibility.sai2" ... Completely forgot what it was.. it was this
#midsomer murders#columbo#the way joyce barnaby always gets a bit too close to the murders#absolutely bonkers that she didnt get killed through the show
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Halo
#mmm ok lemme just start w the tags then ill ramble#welt yang#hsr#honkai star rail#hi3#honkai impact 3rd#my art#ok anyways. i didnt have too many thoughts when i started it beyond “uni is killing me but i NEED to do my daily drawings”#some thoughts did go through my mind while drawing which determined the direction this went in#which is that this could be a badass heroic drawing but.. it isn't. this doesn't feel very happy does it?#it makes him look a bit lonely#but something about the pose and the red is ominous. like he's unreadable but theres something sad about it#the moon in the background has a bit of a double meaning - namely the actual moon and its purpose in hi3#as the final destination of the honkai and the story but.. him as well#and as a halo. i love that the three major organizations in hi3 are basically religious groups#and AE basically worships joyce and his legacy (!) and welt tries to fill that. i mean the title sovereign alone means like. absolute ruler#an untouchable figure in terms of power and control over their people#so i really like to give him some sort of fucked up fake halo. he can imitate a saintly figure but it dehumanizes him in turn#he even talks about humanity like he's not a part of it#what's left is some kind of creature mimicking divinity but becoming isolated and inhuman in the process#(gesturing wildly) THINK ABOUT THE COSMIC HORROR POTENTIAL OF BEING A HERRSCHER. HE LITERALLY PERCEIVES REALITY DIFFERENTLY. CMON.
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Terry-Thomas | selected filmography + PSAs | 1936-1966
Once in a Million 1936
It's Love Again 1936
For Freedom 1940
Under Your Hat 1940
If You Don't Save Paper (PSA) 1948
Copy Book Please (PSA) 1948
A Date with a Dream 1948
The Brass Monkey 1948
Helter Skelter 1949
Melody Club 1949
What's Cooking? (PSA) 1951
Private's Progress 1956
The Green Man 1956
Brothers in Law 1956
Lucky Jim 1957
The Naked Truth 1957
Blue Murder at St Trinian's 1957
Happy Is the Bride 1958
Too Many Crooks 1959
Carlton-Browne of the F.O. 1959
I'm All Right Jack 1959
School for Scoundrels 1960
Make Mine Mink 1960
A Matter of WHO 1961
Bachelor Flat 1962
Kill or Cure 1962
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World 1963
How to Murder Your Wife 1965
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines 1965
La Grande Vadrouille 1966
#Terry-Thomas#THERE IS A LIMIT OF 30 GIFS#to be clear he did WAY more than this#man has over 100 credits to his name#to say nothing of tv appearances and basically paving the way for the Goon Show and Monty Python#there's so much dude#I don't think this man ever slept#Melody Club#The Brass Monkey#Helter Skelter#Private's Progress#The Naked Truth#Kill or Cure#British actors#English actors#my gifs#How to Murder Your Wife#Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines#Make Mine Mink#School for Scoundrels#Brothers in Law#Lucky Jim#Boulting Brothers#Peter Sellers#Eric Sykes#Joyce Grenfell#prolific
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#stranger things#byler#mike wheeler#this killed me#also the part where hopper is like#'maybe you can do it for me...'#and joyce is just like#'no! it only works if it comes from you'#foreshadowed the el/mike/will love triangle in s4 fr
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upon rewatching the first season of stranger things, joyce is the best one. season one joyce solos literally every other character
#stranger things#joyce byers#jopper#so they killed cassandra first cause she feared the worst and tried to tell the town
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oh my god guys why the fuck would they kill karen lmao
#there is an ART to killing characters and she would not make the cut#for a final season especially a killed character has to be carefully crafted ok#a killed character in the first season often triggers the whole rest of the plot. a killed character in the final season could finish it.#so the character who dies will probably have a big role in saving them AND GUYS SHE DOESNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE UPSIDE DOWN#WHY WOULD IT BE HER LMAO#it also has to be impactful on the character & audience but not TOO much on the characters because we wont see the aftermath of their death#which is why jonathan wont die bc will is the main character and his trauma is literally the whole reason for the show#so if jonathan died wills character arc wouldnt be complete#also why joyce and mike cant die#and karen dying is just stupid bc like i said she doesnt know anything but also the audience wouldnt really care if she died#you want the death of a character to make the audience FEEL SOMETHING#she had what 10 lines in s4?? be fr#‘eden thats just wishful thinking’ oh no its not….#because according to everything i just said one of the characters that makes the most sense to kill....#is steve#byler#stranger things
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never forget that Joyce, Hopper, and Murray took Alexei to the hospital after he was shot and he recovered entirely besides a little scar and he became an american citizen and now he lives with Murray and he drinks a lot of (cherry) slurpees and watches a lot of cartoons and keeps his stuffed Woody Woodpecker on his bed and every so often he calls Robin so she can practice her Russian and he can practice his English and he loves the kids and sends them money Murray hid (albeit not well) “specifically for emergencies” on their birthdays and he goes to joyce and hopper’s for dinner every other sunday and everyone calls him uncle alyosha and he and dustin build “machinas” together and he helps El with her math homework and
#listen i know i’m delusional about eddie and max and shit#but ohohoho it DOES NOT end there#my mom wanted me to tell her who died in s3 because bob was a bit rough#and i literally forgot about alexei#i fucking love alexei#i would kill for him#more likely i would die for him#top 5 favorite characters#maybe top 3#and i literally forgot he got shot in the fucking chest#he’s not dead to me#he just slept through murray’s phone call with joyce in season4 and when he woke up he just 🤷 he’ll be back#alexei smirnoff#murray bauman#murlexei#robin buckley#joyce byers#el hopper#jim hopper#dustin henderson
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#why three is off by itself? i don’t know it made the most sense to me#i’m honestly thinking 1-2 just because the duffers haven’t killed any main characters off#and honestly shit is getting crazy. i don’t think it’s possible for everyone to make it out#of the literal fucking apocalypse with a “dark wizard”#trying to kill them all#as for who is dying? i have no idea#that’s a whole other thing#byler#stranger things#stranger things 5#will byers#mike wheeler#the duffer brothers#byler endgame#lumax#lucas sinclair#max mayfield#jonathan byers#dustin henderson#el hopper byers#steve harrington#jancy#nancy wheeler#robin buckley#joyce byers#jopper#jim hopper
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Anyways, Lonnie very much abused Will and Jonathan just you know in case you forgot
#or didn't pick it up when Joyce said Lonnie called Will a f*g or when Jonathan said Will was good at hiding#or when Lonnie told Jonathan he'd gotten stronger or when Jonathan told Nancy that he was forced to kill a rabbit at 10#OR WHEN JONATHAN CHECKED THE TRUNK OR LONNIE'S CAR FOR WILL#y'all get so wrapped in fanon you forget our just ignore canon#i don't know why i bother#fandom snark#tw abuse#stranger things#byers family#jonathan byers#will byers#lonnie byers
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stranger faves screenshot game
need to know who's been your single favorite character at any given point in Stranger Things using screenshots of the exact moment that person first became your fave.
this is not a ranking or a top list! this is for your #1 spot only and who it has belonged to over the years. start with whoever first stood out from the ensemble to you and add a new pic every time someone surpassed them as your new favorite. last pic is your current fave.
I probably already know who your faves are but I wanna know what exact frame of film did it for you.
mine: Joyce lying to Karen. I felt that in my bones -> baby Eleven becomes my legal daughter. hello 911 I'm having chest pains from needing to hug a fictional character -> Max lies to her counselor. hey I identify with this character more suddenly, good things must be coming her way this season! (tagging some friends but if you see this you're invited) @bananananurr @elmaxjunkie @heroesbyler @aemiron-main @elevenmayfieldz @fantasticdragonglitter @reikunrei @gshepgf @rogueddie @sacchrineskies @henrysglock
#just found out my type is: wlw (women lying to women)#stranger faves#if you don't read the instructions and just put a random screenshot chosen for aesthetics I'll bite you#joyce was my initial fave anyway just because I only checked out the show for winona & she was the only actor I knew#but that first lie ladies and germs. it got me#baby el: kills two men and cries me: (brenner voice) well well. it looks like we have a new winner.#this doesn't have to be a tag game I'm just doing that to get this off the ground
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i love bisexual eddie munson, but specifically in like a shang from mulan kind of way, you know? like he knew he liked boys, that made sense. just another way he’s different from everyone else, just another reason he’s a freak. so why bother examining it? he’s gay, hawkins hates him, might as well lean into it. maybe chrissy was the first time a girl made him feel butterflies (or bats?) in his stomach, and it confused him so bad he didn’t know what the hell to do about it except make a fool of himself flirting with the queen. maybe he took one look at nancy wheeler with a sawed off and went “yeah ok holy shit i get it, i see why steve was willing to burn his life down for her and why robin keeps making moon eyes at her and why jonathan lost his mind and pointed his camera through steve’s window like an insane person.” like he’s still into steve, obviously. the man is swanning about shirtless and bloody in an apocalyptic wasteland like the embodiment of all of eddie’s weirdest fantasies, there’s no way he’s not into steve. but i just love the idea of eddie being the one going through an Upside Down sexuality crisis (TM) rather than steve. what is happening to him?? why does he suddenly want to kiss everyone??? get it together munson you are running from a goddamn mob!!!
#eddie munson#steddie#not gonna tag this with everything bc it’s just me rambling but hellcheer and stancy and all that are here too#listen i’m not saying he would want to date nancy they would absolutely tear each other’s throats out within an hour#but his dick is on board is all i’m saying#because let’s face it whose wouldn’t be#people meet the real nancy wheeler and immediately start drooling that’s literally canon#also like#i’m not…NOT saying that mans has mommy issues that eventually translate to an alarming crush on joyce byers#yk? yk#he’s got a weakness for protective types and also women who could kill him so like#it’s as inevitable as it is embarrassing for him#anyway after everything when he definitely for sure lives and joins the party for real etc#he keeps forgetting he’s bi bc he’s so used to thinking of himself as gay#it makes his coming out speeches a little ridiculous
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I REALLY REALLY REALLY need A LOT screentime for Jonathan Byers in season 5
Story began from Byers's family and their drama – and let's be honest Jonathan never had so much time in show like in season 1 (maybe in season 2 but still not a lot as in the beginning). Yeah he had some moments in season 3. Yeah we knew about his troubles in season 4 and he had sweetest dialog with Will but again – his storyline is pretty small.
He and Joyce need a talk. In S 3&4 Joyce was about her story with Hopper and "I need to know what kind of shit happens" but not about her kids – and mostly this part about Jonathan. He's still parentified boy who choose to stay in Lenora because family need him. And Joyce should clearly told him that he doesn't need to put all this responsabilities about her, Will and El.
And yeah all Jancy stuff. These two also need a talk about their future and their troubles. If they stay together after this – I'll be happy. If they break up and go diferent paths – I'll be okay with this and accept this because these two deserved to be happy. And Jonathan with Nancy and Joyce should fully understand that he's not alone, he can made his own dreams come true and he's not like his father (and never become someone like him).
And yeah – he has the biggest chances to die (he's not so popular (maybe one of the least favourite character in main cast) and ST fanbase will not be angry for this) and... I don't want it.
Because he deserved to live for himself that he want (and maybe go to NYU)
#stranger things#jonathan byers#joyce byers#nancy wheeler#stranger things 5#my boy jonathan byers deserves the world#and don't kill jonathan duffers#jancy
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just realised that with the chrissy/jonathan parallels of doing drugs to cope that if jonathan was in hawkins he easily could've been the dead teenager on the news... and we already know s4 max has a million parallels to s2 will.... everyone say thank you joyce byers for being so genius and moving her family away from the hell town before the devil came a-knockin'
#stranger things#henry wouldn't kill will because he's a creep with an obsession#but JONATHAN?? that one scares me#he's fair game#byers family#jonathan byers#joyce byers#will byers#st posting
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hawkeye pierce is such an odysseus. like his entire thing is that he WANTS TO GO HOME. my man just wants to go home to see his loved ones but can’t because the powers that be are making it impossible (hawkeye’s is the us military and odysseus’s is the gods) by throwing just off-the-wall obstacles at him. and along the way he just keeps losing everybody.
not to mention he is a clever trickster who totally would’ve played the “nobody” joke on frank if he could’ve found a way.
also odysseus was a reluctant draftee into the trojan war too (he tried to get out of it by feigning madness through salting the earth of his farmlands).
#james joyce once called odysseus the only all-round character in literature#which I would add hamlet to that list but he is sort of odysseus adjacent I suppose#mash#hawkeye pierce#I guess that makes his dad his penelope#which is sweet#does hawkeye go home dressed as a homeless man and kill a bunch of his dad’s suitors?#idk#never forget when hawkeye claimed he played hamlet in college and sydney was just like thats interesting#I can go anywhere I want anywhere I want just not home
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joyce “who are you gonna call? the police?” byers, jonathan “just like every other suburbian girl who thinks is rebelling” byers, and will “is that why you don’t have any friends?” byers
they didn’t come to play
#jonathan is the most tamed of them all#joyce and will tho? came for the kill#byers family#will byers#jonathan byers#joyce byers#byler tumblr
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