#Imagine all the wasps
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Since I drew Curufin, I wanted to make some proper designs also for other sons of Fëanor. But I had no time and when I had I didn't liked my sketches and ideas.
But atlast here goes Maglor, playing hudry-gudry♡
#tolkien#maglor#It is finished#I made his haistyle according to one book about moravian folclore#Where women used water with sugar to make their hair as ornamental as laces#It looked great#But it must be pain to wear#Imagine all the wasps
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actually i'm still thinking about the moral orel finale.
he has a cross on his wall. do you know how much i think about that bc it's a lot.
a lot of stories ((auto)biographical or fictional) centering escape from abusive/fundamentalist christianity result in the lead characters leaving behind christianity entirely. and that makes complete sense! people often grow disillusioned with the associated systems and beliefs, and when it was something used to hurt them or something so inseparable from their abuse that they can't engage with it without hurting, it makes total sense that they would disengage entirely. and sometimes they just figure out that they don't really believe in god/a christian god/etc. a healthy deconstruction process can sometimes look like becoming an atheist or converting to another religion. it's all case by case. (note: i'm sure this happens with other religions as well, i'm just most familiar with christian versions of this phenomenon).
but in orel's case, his faith was one of the few things that actually brought him comfort and joy. he loved god, y'know? genuinely. and he felt loved by god and supported by him when he had no one else. and the abuses he faced were in how the people in his life twisted religion to control others, to run away from themselves, to shield them from others, etc. and often, orel's conflicts with how they acted out christianity come as a direct result of his purer understanding of god/jesus/whatever ("aren't we supposed to be like this/do that?" met with an adult's excuse for their own behavior or the fastest way they could think of to get orel to leave them alone (i.e. orel saying i thought we weren't supposed to lie? and clay saying uhhh it doesn't count if you're lying to yourself)). the little guy played catch with god instead of his dad, like.. his faith was real, and his love was real. and i think it's a good choice to have orel maintain something that was so important to him and such a grounding, comforting force in the midst of. All That Stuff Moralton Was Up To/Put Him Through. being all about jesus was not the problem, in orel's case.
and i know i'm mostly assuming that orel ended up in a healthier, less rigid version of christianity, but i feel like that's something that was hinted at a lot through the series, that that's the direction he'd go. when he meditates during the prayer bee and accepts stephanie's different way to communicate, incorporating elements of buddhism into his faith; when he has his I AM A CHURCH breakdown (removing himself from the institution and realizing he can be like,, the center of his own faith? taking a more individualistic approach? but Truly Going Through It at the same time), his acceptance (...sometimes) of those who are different from him and condemned by the adults of moralton (stephanie (lesbian icon stephanie my beloved), christina (who's like. just a slightly different form of fundie protestant from him), dr chosenberg (the jewish doctor from otherton in holy visage)). his track record on this isn't perfect, but it gets better as orel starts maturing and picking up on what an absolute shitfest moralton is. it's all ways of questioning the things he's been taught, and it makes sense that it would lead to a bigger questioning as he puts those pieces together more. anyway i think part of his growth is weeding out all the lost commandments of his upbringing and focusing on what faith means to him, and what he thinks it should mean. how he wants to see the world and how he wants to treat people and what he thinks is okay and right, and looking to religion for guidance in that, not as like. a way to justify hurting those he's afraid or resentful of, as his role models did.
he's coming to his own conclusions rather than obediently, unquestioningly taking in what others say. but he's still listening to pick out the parts that make sense to him. (edit/note: and it's his compassion and his faith that are the primary motivations for this questioning and revisal process, both of individual cases and, eventually, the final boss that is christianity.) it makes perfect sense as the conclusion to his character arc and it fits the overall approach of the show far better. it's good is what i'm saying.
and i think it's important to show that kind of ending, because that's a pretty common and equally valid result of deconstruction. and i think it cements the show's treatment of christianity as something that's often (and maybe even easily) exploited, but not something inherently bad. something that can be very positive, even. guys he even has a dog he's not afraid of loving anymore. he's not afraid of loving anyone more than jesus and i don't think it's because he loves this dog less than bartholomew (though he was probably far more desperate for healthy affection and companionship when he was younger). i think it's because he figures god would want him to love that dog. he's choosing to believe that god would want him to love and to be happy and to be kind. he's not afraid of loving in the wrong way do you know how cool that is he's taking back control he's taking back something he loves from his abusers im so normal
#i had a really big fundie snark phase a year or two ago so that's part of like. this. but im still not used to actually talking about#religious stuff so if it reads kinda awkwardly uhh forgive me orz idk#maybe it sounds dumb but i like that the message isn't 'religion is evil'. it easily could have been. but i think the show's points about#how fundie wasp culture in particular treats christianity and itself and others would be less poignant if they were like. and jesus sucks#btw >:] like. this feels more nuanced to me. i guess there's probably a way to maintain that nuance with an ultimately anti-christian#piece of media but i think it'd be like. wayy harder and it's difficult for me to imagine that bc i think a lot of it would bleed out into#the tone. + why focus on only These christians when They're All also bad? so you'd get jokes about them in general#and i think that's kinda less funny than orel and doughy screaming and running from catholics lsdkjfldksj#i think the specificity makes it more unique and compelling as comedy and as commentary. but that's just me#like moralton represents a very particular kind of christian community (namely a middle class fundie wasp nest)#you're not gonna be able to get in the weeds as much if you're laughing at/criticizing all christians. but they accomplish it so thoroughly#and WELL in morel and i think that's because it chose a smaller target it can get to dissect more intimately. anyway#moral orel#orel puppington#(OH also when i say wasp here i mean WASP the acronym. as in white anglo-saxon protestsant. in case the term's new to anyone <3)#maybe it's also relevant to say that i'm kindaaaaaaaa loosely vaguely nonspecifically christian. so there's my bias revealed#i was never raised like orel but i like to think i get some of what's going on in there y'know. in that big autistic head of his#but it's not like i can't handle anti-christian/anti-religious media/takes. i'm a big boy and also i v much get why it's out there yknow#christianity in specific has a lot of blood on its hands from its own members and from outsiders and people have a right to hate it for tha#but religion in all its forms can be positive and i appreciate the nuance. like i've said around 20 times. yeah :) <3#(<- fighting for my life to explain things even though my one job is to be the explainer)
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reading a Sanderson book is like. wow I can't wait to read the most fucked up insane sibling dynamic ever
#im a simple man. i read Sanderson i think about what it means to be a sibling and then i scream#wasps are trapped in my head everytime i think about how adolin and renarin literally adore each other#but then you hop over to mistborn and read about kelsier and marsh and youre like FUCK oh my GOD#lets not even delve into how hard i go thinking about shallan and her brothers#something something ive known you since the day you were born and i love you so much but sometimes i have to hold back#AND TIEN??? ohhhhhh ohhhh my god#Kaladin sums up the eldest sibling thing he really does like. imagine.#tien being the person who cheers him up and then LOSING HIM??#then getting a bio brother plus all of bridge four as brothers#im sobbing <3#stormlight archive#cosmere#renarin kholin#adolin kholin#tien#brandon sanderson
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ty for the warning signs, sorry people are being mildly annoying in your notes, sana masarap lagi ang ulam nyo <3
Thank you I will survive. At least it is my art that escaped containment this time...
*looking into the distance, thinking about my post about valentines day being about the color red and my post about how much I like wasps* could be far more annoying.
#funny talking tag#The wasp post in particular makes me :-|#''OMG I love wasps they're so cutes animals to me'' ''Ewww I hope they all die they're evil and suck'' why.#Imagine if you said cats are your favorite animal and someone commented on your post about how much they want every cat to die. Not polite.
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Ever since the conception the Hammerhead Worms in bwnm, I've sort of worried that it'll lean too much into The Darkest Hour with how the big bad guys at the end were a big scary group of outsiders who obey to no god
But then I realize it's because I haven't had the time to talk about and work on the other antagonists so I've stuck myself in this idea that the Hammerhead Worms are in the same narrative/connotative vein as Bloodclan's role in The Darkest Hour. Man I really need to talk about like. Queen Mother Gnash soon or something
#blimbo rambles#oh also I need to always remind myself that those fuckers are not godless at all#they're a representation of people who use their religious beliefs as an excuse to commit the worst actions imaginable#those who twist the words of their religion#I don't want to get super into the backstory of them because it's still a work in progress#but also I don't even know if they're gonna be the '' big final bad guys'' in the story#some of the stuff you're seeing about the story is bound to change somehow. mainly because I'm juggling this stuff and also school#so hopefully I can find more time to talk about. say. Queen Oleander and her creation of bee gladiator battles#and her actions of kidnapping and imprisoning the wasps. torturing many and indoctrinating baby wasps
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also, going back to the cdream zine, Litchi has contributed so much content and art on such a massive and incredible scale, she more than deserves to join the zine if she wishes to. Some of her art work was the most influential for many artist and if I remember just the size of the canvas and the hours of work put into the traditional and digital works, I dont see why she shouldn't be allowed to join. Just cause dsmp isn't the focus doesn't mean it isn't still an intrest. People can like multiple things at once, I know, shocking.
I hope you're doing good litchi, love you forever, dont let them get to you <3
okay, I was going to let this entire thing go, but this ask has been eating away at my brain since I saw it in the morning, was my work actually influential to other people????
I'm doing well, love you too<3
#asks#aleksanderthemesschild#I probably shouldnt be kicking the wasps nest with this but like damn I cant imagine that#Im glad people recognise the hours I put into all the comics I made way back when#i hope to put this time into original comics someday. possibly someday soon. but life comes first
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caught a wasp in a cup and let it outside, 0 injured. i deserve a medal
#i can appreciate them from a distance but they are so scary 😭 this stressed me out so bad#where's that big post with all those pictures of wasps in a cup. imagining that post helped me calm down
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#IF MY MOM DOESNT WANT ME TO LOOK INSANE AND CRY HYSTERICALLY ALL DAY MAYBE SHE SHOULDNT MAKE ME WORK HERE#whatever man. gotta do it for my future new security deposit#im finally in the mood to draw but im too afraid of throwing my 1000€ ipad on the floor when i get scared of the bees that constantly fly in#that thing is whats been keeping me going these last years so i cannot bear anything happening to it#its already insane that i take it with me when i leave the house at all#..... an actual WASP keeps hovering in the door way next to where im supposed to sit#kill me kill me now imagine me muttering that while slamming my head against the wall over and over again
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shoutout to pigpoke "onemoreplease" the rabbit on youtube whos personality can be summed up as "wishes he had a bomb"
#something something the reason i specify against “cute baby bunny compilation” is because of the like#cultural goofery of it. like you know how wasps are often imagined as these evil spiteful things with no goal other than hurting#as opposed to say. an animal with thoughts and interactions and experiences#not just a flat scary image in your head but a living being#and for rabbits its the other side where when you think 'bunny' or 'rabbit' what do you see?#the cute image of a small fluffy thing and a carrot#and surprisingly/unsurprisingly thats how so many people see them#as these sacharrine things with nothing to them beyond being cute and dull#as opposed to. once again. actual animals thatre complex and more than just cute pictures on easter chocolates#and it isnt all to say 'NO a rabbit is NOT cute' because they are#many animals are#its just that they should still be seen as animals. as something more dimensional than just 'baby bunny cute'
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the way some of you guys talk about ai is um. kind of concerning? like you know image generation and chatgpt arent the only kinds of ais in the world right.
#i feel like im swinging at a wasps nest with this one but#the way some of you guys declare your passionate hatred for any and all ai. its um. worrying to me?#like yes there is a lot of ethical problems. with the two kinds of ai people seem to fuckin know about#There Are So Many Other Kinds Of Ai (Which Have Their Own DIFFERENT Ethical Problems)#like agi (artificial general intelligence)#agi is like what everyone used to think about when they talked about ai. the kind thats supposed to become like. ''sentient''#ok well not sentient but. thats supposed to be able to learn how a human can#i dont know. is this a weird thing for me to feel iffy about.#is it too early for me to be worrying were gonna invent a whole new kind of bigotry#im pretty sure we're eventually gonna make an ai thats indistinguishable from humans in like. a Living way#not a The Kinds Of Things It Makes Look So Normal way#why do i think this? bc i am an optimist and have wanted this to happen since i was an itty bitty baby. and if we dont ill be sad#people saying ai should be like. outlawed bc of what corporations are doing is so wild to me.#like imagine every day you go to school you and your friends get beaten up with baseball bats#and you decide baseball must be banned from the school bc of how many people the bats harm daily#instead of thinking for a moment and realizing. maybe the fucking jocks who r hitting you need to be expelled instead of the sport#that the bats came from.#does that metaphor make sense.#or am i making up a guy to get mad at#i dont know.#i might delete this later
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so we all know that the Saw series (allegedly) takes place in New Jersey, but what I wanna know is... did they ever go to the jersey shore?
#imagining hoffman in his 20s with frosted tips et all#amanda with those dumb braids that were super popular in the 90s#john on the beach putting the guidos in saw traps in his mind#the only 'main cast' member i think Didnt grow up in jersey is Adam - he moved from some smaller town to 'make it big' in the big city#except he didnt have enough money to move to nyc so instead he moves to jersey#i hc that saw takes place in/around Newark (bc I Say So)#and i can just imagine a 19yr old adam moving there thinking its gonna be so cool but then he gets there and its just fucking jersey lol#maybe lawrence as well- he Screams east-coast-wasp so i think his family is probably from like upstate ny or maine#No Actually - lawrence is from massachusetts - thats why his accent is so Like That#anyway#saw posting
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Hang on I was gonna put this in the tags, but I have contributing thoughts that are a bit larger:
This is a long post, but I thought it was an interesting read that gives a take that I feel many fandom creators share. So it's worth reading for that perspective at the very least.
For me personally though, I don't believe these problems are solved at all by locking fics on Ao3. It's not going to do much to stop the people who want to take it and disseminate it to the masses, as it only takes one "fan" to pass your work onto all the tourists.
But whether or not you can meaningfully stop theft isn't my main comment.
I think what locking fic on Ao3 in particular is more likely to do however is dissuade curious onlookers from actually getting more involved in the fandom (as a dedicated lurker or otherwise). This is specifically because when you're logged out of Ao3, it doesn't show you locked fics as things that exists but you can't access. Instead, ao3 it doesn't show you the locked fics at all. They don't exist. If everyone locks their fic, a curious onlooker trying to see if anything has been written for a show/movie/game they love will look on Ao3 and find.... that there's no community there at all. They would find nothing.
If it were a situation where it showed you the locked fics and then hit you with a "log in to continue" page if you tried to read it, then this wouldn't be so much of an issue. But because Ao3 hides locked fics from you completely if you're not logged in, I think it really is a detriment to new fans. These new fans can't even see that there's a barrier or a gate that they need to cross to get involved in fandom, they just see that nothing exists. And if nothing exists, then they're likely to move on and find something new to get interested in. Who is supposed to tell them that the community exists if only they knew the magic word?
I get why people choose to lock their fics, and I don't think anyone is wrong in making that choice for themselves. But I also think that it is overall a detriment to fandom spaces. Communities need to have ways of bringing new people in, and I worry that we'd miss a lot of great writers and readers this way.
Fandom can do a little gatekeeping. As a treat.
So I finally decided to archive-lock my fics on AO3 last night. I’ve been considering it since the AI scrape last year, but the tipping point was this whole lore.fm debacle, coupled with some thoughts I’ve been thinking regarding Fandom These Days in general and Fandom As A Community in particular. So I wanna explain why I waited so long, why I locked my stuff up now, and why I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m a-okay with making it harder for people to see my stories.
Lurkers really are great, tho
I’m a chronic lurker, and have been since I started hanging out on the internet as a teen in the 00s. These days it’s just cuz I don’t feel a need to socialize very often, but back then it was because I was shy and knew I was socially awkward. Even if I made an account, I’d spend months lurking on message boards or forums or Livejournals, watching other people interact and getting a feel for that particular community’s culture and etiquette before I finally started interacting myself. And y’know, that approach saved me a lot of embarrassment. Over the course of my lurking on any site, there was always some other person who’d clearly joined up five minutes after learning the place existed, barged in without a care for their behavior, and committed so many social faux pas that all the other users were immediately annoyed with them at best. I learned a lot observing those incidents. Lurk More is Rule 33 of the internet for very good reason.
Lurking isn’t bad or weird or creepy. It’s perfectly normal. I love lurking. It’s hard for me to not lurk - socializing takes a lot of energy out of me, even via text. (Heck it took 12 hours for me to write this post, I wish I was kidding--) Occasionally I’ll manage longer bouts of interaction - a few weeks posting here, almost a year chatting in a discord there - but I’m always gonna end up going radio silent for months at some point. I used to feel bad about it, but I’ve long since made peace with the fact that it’s just the way my brain works. I’m a chronic lurker, and in the long term nothing is going to change that.
The thing with being a chronic lurker is that you have to accept that you are not actually seen as part of the community you are lurking in. That’s not to say that lurkers are unimportant - lurkers actually are important, and they make up a large proportion of any online community - but it’s simple cause and effect. You may think of it as “your community”, but if you’ve never said a word, how is the community supposed to know you exist? If I lurked on someone’s LJ, and then that person suddenly friendslocked their blog, I knew that I had two choices: Either accept that I would never be able to read their posts again, or reach out to them and ask if I could be added to their friends list with the full understanding that I was a rando they might not decide to trust. I usually went with the first option, because my invisibility as a lurker was more important to me than talking to strangers on the internet.
Lurking is like sitting on a park bench, quietly people-watching and eavesdropping on the conversations other people are having around you. You’re in the park, but you’re not actively participating in anything happening there. You can see and hear things that you become very interested in! But if you don’t introduce yourself and become part of the conversation, you won’t be able to keep listening to it when those people walk away. When fandom migrated away from Livejournal, people moved to new platforms alongside their friends, but lurkers were often left behind. No one knew they existed, so they weren’t told where everyone else was going. To be seen as part of a fandom community, you need to submit to the mortifying ordeal of being known, etc. etc.
There’s nothing wrong with lurking. There can actually be benefits to lurking, both for the lurkers and the communities they lurk in. It’s just another way to be in a fandom. But if that is how you exist in fandom--and remember, I say this as someone who often does exist that way in fandom--you need to remember that you’re on the outside looking in, and the curtains can always close.
I’ve always been super sympathetic to lurkers, because I am one. I know there’s a lot of people like me who just don’t socialize often. I know there’s plenty of reasons why someone might not make an account on the internet - maybe they’re nervous, maybe they’re young and their parents don’t allow them to, maybe they’re in a bad situation where someone is monitoring their activity, maybe they can only access the internet from public computer terminals. Heck, I’ve never even logged into AO3 on my phone--if I’m away from my computer I just read what’s publicly available.
I know I have people lurking on my fics. I know my fics probably mean a lot to someone I don’t even know exists. I know this because there are plenty of fics I love whose writers don’t know I exist.
I love my commenters personally; I love my lurkers as an abstract concept. I know they’re there and I wish them well, and if they ever de-lurk I love them all the more.
So up until last year I never considered archive-locking my fic, because I get it. The AI scraping was upsetting, but I still hesitated because I was thinking of lurkers and guests and remembering what it felt like to be 15 and wondering if it’d be worth letting a stranger on the internet know I existed and asking to be added to their friends list just so I could reread a funny post they made once.
But the internet has changed a lot since the 00s, and fandom has changed with it. I’ve read some things and been doing some thinking about fandom-as-community over the last few years, and reading through the lore.fm drama made me decide that it’s time for me to set some boundaries.
I still love my lurkers, and I feel bad about leaving any guest commenters behind, especially if they’re in a situation where they can’t make an account for some reason. But from here on out, even my lurkers are going to have to do the bare minimum to read my fics--make an AO3 account.
Should we gatekeep fandom?
I’ve seen a few people ask this question, usually rhetorically, sometimes as a joke, always with a bit of seriousness. And I think…yeah, maybe we should. Except wait, no, not like that--
A decade ago, when people talked about fandom gatekeeping and why it was bad to do, it intersected with a lot of other things, mainly feminism and classism. The prevalent image of fandom gatekeeping was, like, a man learning that a woman likes Star Wars and haughtily demanding, “Oh, yeah? Well if you’re REALLY a fan, name ten EU novels” to belittle and dismiss her, expecting that a “real fan” would have the money and time to be familiar with the EU, and ignoring the fact that male movie-only fans were still considered fans. The thing being gatekept was the very definition of “being a fan” and people’s right to describe themselves as one.
That’s not what I mean when I say maybe fandom should gatekeep more. Anyone can call themselves a fan if they like something, that’s fine. But when it comes to the ability to enjoy the fanworks produced by the fandom community…that might be something worth gatekeeping.
See, back in the 00s, it was perfectly common for people to just…not go on the internet. Surfing the web was a thing, but it was just, like, a fun pastime. Not everyone did it. It wasn’t until the rise of social media that going online became a thing everyone and their grandmother did every day. Back then, going on the internet was just…a hobby.
So one of the first gates online fandom ever had was the simple fact that the entire world wasn’t here yet.
The entire world is here now. That gate has been demolished.
And it’s a lot easier to find us now. Even scattered across platforms, fandom is so centralized these days. It isn’t a network of dedicated webshrines and forums that you can only find via webrings anymore, it’s right there on all the big social media sites. AO3 didn’t set out to be the main fanfic website, but that’s definitely what it’s become. It’s easy for people to find us--and that includes people who don’t care about the community, and just want “content.”
Transformative fandom doesn’t like it when people see our fanworks as “content”. “Content” is a pretty broad term, but when fandom uses it we’re usually referring to creative works that are churned out by content creators to be consumed by an audience as quickly as possible as often as possible so that the content creator can generate revenue. This not-so-new normal has caused a massive shift in how people who are new to fandom view fanworks--instead of seeing fic or art as something a fellow fan made and shared with you, they see fanworks as products to be consumed.
Transformative fandom has, in general, always been a gift economy. We put time and effort into creating fanworks that we share with our fellow fans for free. We do this so we don’t get sued, but fandom as a whole actually gets a lot out of the gift economy. Offer your community a story, and in return you can get comments, build friendships, or inspire other people to write things that you might want to read. Readers are given the gift of free stories to read and enjoy, and while lurking is fine, they have the choice to engage with the writer and other readers by leaving comments or making reclists to help build the community.
And look, don’t get me wrong. People have never engaged with fanfic as much as fan writers wish they would. There has always been “no one comments anymore” wank. There have always been people who only comment to say “MORE!” or otherwise demand or guilt trip writers into posting the next chapter. But fandom has always agreed that those commenters are rude and annoying, and as those commenters navigate fandom they have the chance to learn proper community etiquette.
However, now it seems that a lot of the people who are consuming fanworks aren’t actually in the community.
I won’t say “they aren’t real fans” because that’s silly; there’s lots of ways to be a fan. But there seem to be a lot of fans now who have no interest in fandom as a community, or in adhering to community etiquette, or in respecting the gift economy. They consume our fics, but they don’t appreciate fan labor. They want our “content”, but they don’t respect our control over our creations.
And even worse--they see us as a resource. We share our work for free, as a gift, but all they see is an open-source content farm waiting to be tapped into. We shared it for free, so clearly they can do whatever they want with it. Why should we care if they feed our work into AI training datasets, or copy/paste our unfinished stories into ChatGPT to get an ending, or charge people for an unnecessary third-party AO3 app, or sell fanbindings on etsy for a profit without the author’s permission, or turn our stories into poor imitations of podfics to be posted on other platforms without giving us credit or asking our consent, while also using it to lure in people they can datascrape for their Forbes 30 Under 30 company?
And sure, people have been doing shady things with other people’s fanworks since forever. Art theft and reposting has always been a big problem. Fanfic is harder to flat-out repost, but I’ve heard of unauthorized fic translations getting posted without crediting the original author. Once in…I think the 2010s? I read a post by a woman who had gone to some sort of local bookselling event, only to find that the man selling “his” novel had actually self-published her fanfic. (Wish I could find that one again, I don’t even remember where I read it.)
But aside from that third example, the thing is…as awful as fanart/writing theft is, back in the day, the main thing a thief would gain from it was clout. Clout that should rightfully go to the creators who gifted their work in the first place, yeah, but still. Just clout. People will do a lot of hurtful things for clout, but fandom clout means nothing outside of fandom. Fandom clout is not enough to incentivize the sort of wide-scale pillaging we’re seeing from community outsiders today.
Money, on the other hand… Well, fandom’s just a giant, untapped content farm, isn’t it? Think of how much revenue all that content could generate.
Lurkers are a normal and even beneficial part of any online community. Maybe one day they’ll de-lurk and easily slide into place beside their fellow fans because they already know the etiquette. Maybe they’re active in another community, and they can spread information from the community they lurk in to the community they’re active in. At the very least, they silently observe, and even if they’re not active community members, they understand the community.
Fans who see fanworks as “content” don’t belong in the same category as lurkers. They’re tourists.
While reading through the initial Reddit thread on the lore.fm situation, I found this comment:
[ID: Reddit User Cabbitowo says: ... So in anime fandoms we have a word called tourist and essentially it means a fan of a few anime and doesn't care about anime tropes and actively criticizes them. This is kind of how fandoms on tiktok feel. They're touring fanfics and fanart and actively criticizes tropes that have been in the fandom since the 60s. They want to be in a fandom but they don't want to engage in fandom
OP totallymandy responds: Just entered back into Reddit after a long day to see this most recent reply. And as a fellow anime fan this making me laugh so much since it’s true! But it sorta hurts too when the reality sets in. Modern fandom is so entitled and bratty and you’d think it’s the minors only but that’s not even true, my age-mates and older seem to be like that. They want to eat their cake and complain all whilst bringing nothing to the potluck… :/ END ID]
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“Tourist” is an apt name for this sort of fan. They don’t want to be part of our community, and they don’t have to be in order to come into our spaces and consume our work. Even if they don’t steal our work themselves, they feel so entitled to it that they’re fine with ignoring our wishes and letting other people take it to make AI “podfics” for them to listen to (there are a lot of comments on lore.fm’s shutdown announcement video from people telling them to just ignore the writers and do it anyway). They’ll use AI to generate an ending to an unfinished fic because they don’t care about seeing “the ending this writer would have given to the story they were telling”, they just want “an ending”. For these tourist fans, the ends justify the means, and their end goal is content for them to consume, with no care for the community that created it for them in the first place.
I don’t think this is confined to a specific age group. This isn’t “13-year-olds on Wattpad” or “Zoomers on TikTok” or whatever pointless generation war we’re in now. This is coming from people who are new to fandom, whose main experience with creative works on the internet is this new content culture and who don’t understand fandom as a community. That description can be true of someone from any age group.
It’s so easy to find fandom these days. It is, in fact, too easy. Newcomers face no hurdles or challenges that would encourage them to lurk and observe a bit before engaging, and it’s easy for people who would otherwise move on and leave us alone to start making trouble. From tourist fans to content entrepreneurs to random people who just want to gawk, it’s so easy for people who don’t care about the fandom community to reap all of its fruits.
So when I say maybe fandom should start gatekeeping a bit, I’m referring to the fact that we barely even have a gate anymore. Everyone is on the internet now; the entire world can find us, and they don’t need to bother learning community etiquette when they do. Before, we were protected by the fact that fandom was considered weird and most people didn’t look at it twice. Now, fandom is pretty mainstream. People who never would’ve bothered with it before are now comfortable strolling in like they own the place. They have no regard for the fandom community, they don’t understand it, and they don’t want to. They want to treat it just like the rest of the content they consume online.
And then they’re surprised when those of us who understand fandom culture get upset. Fanworks have existed far longer than the algorithmic internet’s content. Fanworks existed long before the internet. We’ve lived like this for ages and we like it.
So if someone can’t be bothered to respect fandom as a community, I don’t see why I should give them easy access to my fics.
Think of it like a garden gate
When I interact with commenters on my fic, I have this sense of hospitality.
The comment section is my front porch. The fic is my garden. I created my garden because I really wanted to, and I’m proud of it, and I’m happy to share it with other people.
Lots of people enjoy looking at my garden. Many walk through without saying anything. Some stop to leave kudos. Some recommend my garden to their friends. And some people take the time to stop by my front porch and let me know what a beautiful garden it is and how much they’ve enjoyed it.
Any fic writer can tell you that getting comments is an incredible feeling. I always try to answer all my comments. I don’t always manage it, but my fics’ comment sections are the one place that I manage to consistently socialize in fandom. When I respond to a comment, it feels like I’m pouring out a glass of lemonade to share with this lovely commenter on my front porch, a thank you for their thank you. We take a moment to admire my garden together, and then I see them out. The next time they drop by, I recognize them and am happy to pour another glass of lemonade.
My garden has always been open and easy to access. No fences, no walls. You just have to know where to find it. Fandom in general was once protected by its own obscurity, an out-of-the-way town that showed up on maps but was usually ignored.
But now there’s a highway that makes it easy to get to, and we have all these out-of-towner tourists coming in to gawk and steal our lawn ornaments and wonder if they can use the place to make themselves some money.
I don’t care to have those types trampling over my garden and eating all my vegetables and digging up my flowers to repot and sell, so I’ve put up a wall. It has a gate that visitors can get through if they just take the time to open it.
Admittedly, it’s a small obstacle. But when I share my fics, I share them as a gift with my fellow fans, the ones who understand that fandom is a community, even if they’re lurkers. As for tourist fans and entrepreneurs who see fic as content, who have no qualms ignoring the writer’s wishes, who refuse to respect or understand the fandom community…well, they’re not the people I mean to share my fic with, so I have no issues locking them out. If they want access to my stories, they’ll have to do the bare minimum to become a community member and join the AO3 invite queue.
And y’know, I’ve said a lot about fandom and community here, and I just want to say, I hope it’s not intimidating. When I was younger, talk about The Fandom Community made me feel insecure, and I didn’t think I’d ever manage to be active enough in fandom spaces to be counted as A Member Of The Community. But you don’t have to be a social butterfly to participate in fandom. I’ll always and forever be a chronic lurker, I reblog more than I post, I rarely manage to comment on fic, and I go radio silent for months at a time--but I write and post fanfiction. That’s my contribution.
Do you write, draw, vid, gif, or otherwise create? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you leave comments? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you curate reclists? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you maintain a fandom blog or fuckyeah blog? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you provide a space for other fans to convene in? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you regularly send asks (off anon so people know who you are)? Congrats, you're a community member.
Do you have fandom friends who you interact with? Congrats, you're a community member.
There’s lots of ways to be a fan. Just make sure to respect and appreciate your fellow fans and the work they put in for you to enjoy and the gift economy fandom culture that keeps this community going.
#if you were logged out and looked in the ironwasp tag you'd never know about everything ribbonelle has written for them#to me that is a such a great loss#imagine being a new fan having taste so good that you enjoy ironwasp and then never even knowing one of the founders of the ship#ribbonelle's choices are her own of course. but i can't deny all these new fans with impeccable taste the OTHER founder of the ship#i can't deny a new fan with no account that just watched tfa for the first time the ONLY wasp stockades fic in existence#i can't. they need that. They need that fic the same way we all needed and still he watches me#and i simply don't give a damn if someone tries to steal it from me#i'm not thrilled about theft obviously#but i'm even less thrilled about the idea of young wasp enjoyers not getting the closure of that stockades fic#I'm even less thrilled about the idea that a curious onlooker might be denied the chance to find reason to love that robot the way i do#but i do understand why people feel the way op does as well#when so much heart goes into writing these things
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I hate cramps
I feel like I'm giving birth what the hell
Ouchie
Why must my body give me big ouchie
#I'm not being hyperbolic on feeling like I'm giving birth either#This is how I imagine how bad beginning contractions are is how bad I be hurting#I know I over share#But#Girl#AUGH IT HURTS I NEED TO VENT AND COMPLAIN OR IT GONNA HURT MORE#THIS IS MY BLOG I GET TO OVERSHARE#ouchie ow ow#Hort#Hurts#Shshsuskakz#It's like someone took a knife up there#Actually no#I don't even know how to describe how much I ouchie rn#It feels like a million wasp stings all at once
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"I wanna go outside!"
Absolute avalanche of bugs everywhere, every chair is covered in bugs, webs or leaves. The concrete has ants everywhere. The yard covered in dogshit. Front yard then.
Oh I hate people. Oh no I can be seen. Oh god no. The Wasps are here. Neighbor dog never stops barking even if I stand perfectly still. Neighbor's burning plastic and tire every good day too.
It's too hot, too windy, or too cold.
The BEST outside time, is during a thunderstorm. Ya got rain, people fuck off, bugs fuck off, the damn wasps fuck off. The temp is just right and being drenched in rainwater invigorating.
#To be fair global warming n whatnot#Ya'll notice the sky is...darker.#Near the top center? I used to lay on my trampoline staring at the sky all the time.#all of the outside world is genuinely uninhabitable#don't get me STARTED on the neighbors burning shit every fucking good day#No no please take away a pleasant smell with Burnt Tar and Plastic you fuckers#People don't have a third place and all but the reality is the outside just fucking sucks now#Litter everywhere. Any beauty of nature is disrupted by advertising or shitty looking buildings and businesses#nothing about outside is at all enthralling if you live in hell#Like ya'll some of you have trains and places to go. People to clean pollution. Laws to keep the air clean. Ways to keep neighbor dogs from#consistently barking#Not everyone does#imagine a kid growing up only smelling burnt plastic. attacked by wasps. in ridiculous heat or cold#and sometimes rain just never happens *shrug*#sucks ass in this shithole country
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spending a few days in northern europe has really made me realize how narrow america's definition of whiteness is
#see i'd already noticed that to me wasp girls in america all look strangely similar. like theyre all variations of the same girl#but i hadn't expected nordic girls to look so similar too. which is kinda stupid bc well thats where the american wasp girlies came from lol#but you see. i am white european blonde and blue-eyed. and yet i see Nothing of myself in them#my features - strong nose big eyes - my hair - curly - my body type - short and wide hips - theyre all so typically hispanic/italian#i always strongly identified as southern european even though im pale blonde and blue eyed - not the picture you imagine of a spaniard#even though people assume im german unprompted - im really not#anyway this is all just to say that there are so many different ethnic backgrounds that are lumped together as White-because we *are* White#but it's oftentimes an insufficient or misleading indicator because White probably does not mean the same to you as it does to me#which is why ive ALWAYS been SO baffled by the aphorism 'white people have no culture' like WHICH white people are we talking about????#clara tais toi
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So like. If bug TYPE pokemon exist. Surely regular bugs do too? Otherwise how would they know what a bug was? Do bug type pokemon aid in decomposition? There's gotta be actual creepy crawlies handing around that people went "ah, bug. Bug like pokemon."
#I am being overrun by crickets and these little slim crawly things and I'm pissed about it#So I'm imagining Akari being stressed out by the actual bugs and being unable to escape them#And her dad helping de-bug her room or his home or whatever to help her sleep and relax#(I'm really pissed about all the bugs. It's worse this yr because of the new dog.)#(we had a tarantula hawk wasp in the house a couple weeks ago. There are so many crickets.)
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