#I've only seen one episode of season 12 and by the end i was laughing over how ridiculous it was

[bluesey-182]

these last two seasons of bones are wack as fuck

[wheresurboytonighthelookslikeenj]

ok chat the poll is over time to reveal the answers

someone is killed in a giant microwave - YEAH season 12 episode 1 murdoch mystery mansion. the potato cooking room was at first a hypothetical presented in an earlier season that murdoch made a reality during the designing of his house ! someone then used the room to kill someone inside uh oh

sigmund freud's gaydar - YEAH season 15 episode 12 murdoch on the couch. sigmund freud, who's at the station house because of a threat to his life, reads henry's letter addressed to george and believes it to be a letter for a lover. when henry brings this up to brax and watts later, they don't contest this ! (in fact claiming this was the only thing he was right about) was going to make a joke about how he was like i know what you are but he actually seemed like genuine and objective with it honestly what the hell was up with that.

re-enactment of the last supper with dead bodies - YEAH season 9 episode 4 barenaked ladies. to make a poetic point about guilt and betrayal, someone kills some people who they think have wronged someone and electroplates them in the poses of various figures from the last supper.

one of the main characters kills jack the ripper - YEAH season 2 episode 2 snakes and ladders. a serial killer on the loose suspected to be jack the ripper is in toronto, and in a fight with him in the morgue, julia kills him. she is understandably shaken by this and the end of the episode she dances with murdoch because she’d like to be held <3

sherlock holmes meets arthur conan doyle. yeah they meet each other - YEAH season 6 episode 4 a study in sherlock. due to childhood trauma, there's a guy in toronto living as sherlock holmes :)) murdoch is frustrated that he won't believe that sherlock holmes isn't real, so to convince him, he invites arthur conan doyle, who happens to be visiting toronto, over.

reincarnation is real - YEAH season 6 episode 11 lovers in a murderous time. cant believe yall forgot this one this was one of my fav episodes the first time i watched s06 but anyways. two people bear a striking resemblance to two doomed lovers from many years ago, and the woman has visions and dreams of memories of details she can't possibly know ! they're reincarnated lovers. whoah

pig flies - YEAH season 6 episode 1 murdoch air. james pendrick, flying his test craft in the race for the world's first controlled air craft, tested a harness by using a dead pig as a passenger. was reminded of this one because in a s15 episode the brackenreids were laughing abt something and margaret said "when pigs fly!" and brax was like "i've seen that happen actually" <3

murdoch invents uber - NAH. murdoch does not invent uber. the closest we get to uber is not murdoch's invention but george and henry with henry's cab :) this lie kind of falls apart when you consider that murdoch's inventions are almost always technological innovations, while uber is. a business. and murdoch doesn't even like cars.

murdoch dies in a tub but only temporarily - YEAH season 5 episode 10 staircase to heaven. murdoch investigates a death within a club (one member being emily) who compete for a chance to "die" to see what the afterlife looks like, dropping them as close to death as possible and then reviving them, and murdoch tries it out yeah 👍

murdoch beats up santa claus - YEAH season 17 episode 9 the christmas list. in possibly his most out of character episode, murdoch suspects department store santa claus of theft and tries to arrest him in front of the children, then when santa resists, murdoch beats the shit out of him

[jediwizard]

Hiiii I was wondering what your top 5 series are because I'm bored and I don't wanna do schoolwork so I'm gonna distract myself with screens

thanks for asking

my ultimate comfort show is friends. I've seen every episode a billion times, but it still makes me laugh and I still feel like I'm watching it for the first time. it's nostalgic and it just feels like home. I would like if there was more diversity tho..

i love how I met your mother (except for that awful ending). its so comforting and the show discusses real problems that young adults face like unemployment, divorce, infertility, losing a parent etc. characters go through real problems that real people face.

heartstopper obviously. again, I feel like I'm mentioning a lot of comfort shows rather than genuinly good shows but heartstopper is just.. so perfect. it is a bit cringe at times but teenagers are actually like that. everyone in that friend group is so loyal and kind and there's no drama and overall toxicness you'd find in most netflix shows like riverdale, elite etc. and I feel like this is one of the first shows I've seen with good queer representation. the paris squad remind me a lot of my friends and I, and we actually watched the show together. and we're gonna binge all of s3 and then talk about it (it's gotten to be a bit of a tradition)

id like to say that I love the owl house, even though I've never officially seen it. I've watched a lot of clips of it on YouTube and I know what happens and whenever I feel stressed or overwhelmed with school work, I'd watch like a 40 minute video of lumity. and I also relate to luz noceda on a personal level. I found out about this show only last year, when it was on it's final season and I was 16. I wish my 12 year old self watched it, because she would have LOVED the owl house and found comfort in this show. watching the owl house at 16 and 17 for the first time shocked me because I felt like my 11 and 12 year old self had come to life (and btw we even look really similar so there's that..). I just started watching Hilda and it's a lot like the owl house and Hilda reminds me of myself too, so idk. they're both really great shows

and lastly i'd probably have to go with stranger things. I love the gravity falls-dark suburban-fall vibe the first two seasons had. season three was really fun, but I didn't like the fourth that much. I also hate how it takes so long for each season to come out. again, I related to robin a lot and I love to play DND with some of my new friends. I started watching stranger things when I was around 11 with my old friends and I remember collaborating on pinterst boards and stuff, so that was fun. i'm going to watch the last season with them too.

ive seen a bunch of episodes of doctor who and some clips on YouTube and I love that. I need to properly sit down and watch Dr. who

superwholock in general is great, but I don't really feel like mentioning spn and Sherlock because of all the queerbating and homophobia surrounding the shows. (sherlock's amazing though)

i know you asked for five, but one day at a time is SUCH an amazing show too. it's about a latina family (grandma, mom, daughter and son) and it's so funny and really informative and just an overall fun family sitcom, but it doesn't shy away from dealing with important issues like racism, immigrant families, growing up in a three generational household, raising a teenager daughter who's a lesbian, being a military nurse and the trauma you have to deal with afterwards etc. elena is a lesbian and she's so nerdy and I just love her so much <333

anyway, that's it. peace out

[mobius-m-mobius]

Fave shows tag game

Rules: List 5 favourite shows (in no particular order) and answer questions accordingly.

Life on Mars

Good Omens

Mad Dogs

Loki

Psych

@loki-is-my-kink-awakening Thank you so much for the tag lovely!! Putting my answers to the questions behind the cut 😊

1. Who is your favourite character in 2?

Oh no not this😅 Don't wanna start off totally indecisive but In all honesty Aziraphale and Crowley are such a package deal I've never been able to decide who I liked more so both it is!

2. Who is your least favourite character in 1?

Probably Frank Morgan since he's meant to give everyone the creeps and totally untrustworthy but if we're talking main cast then Ray because everyone else is just too good ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

3. What's your favourite episode of 4?

Episode two THE beloved my one and only 🥺💖 12/10 would gladly watch Owen and Tom sit around chatting and mirroring the cafeteria vibes either as Lokius or themselves for the rest of my days

4. What is your favourite season of 5?

Gotta be S2!! All the earlier seasons are gold so was very tempted by the latter half of S3 but S2's like a tour de force

5. What's your favourite relationship in 3?

Baxter and Quinn would an obvious one since John and Phil are married in every role and this is no exception but the dynamic between Baxter and Rick is so weirdly fascinating?? They just clash so instantly, usually to great disaster but will never stop themselves or learn from their mistakes, absolutely obsessed tbh

6. Who is your anti relationship in 2?

I don't really have one?? If pressed I wasn't interested in Anathema and Newt being shoved together for no real reason or the implication of ending up with someone because you're told but I don't have any active dislike for them or their pairing

7. How long have you watched 1?

Well I was pretty late to pick the show up and watched for the first time around three years ago, have since rewatched the entire series at least 5 times in full, and various clips more times than I could ever count lol

8. How did you become interested in 3?

Thank my url namesake, lol. Truly the most stunning TV experience start to finish I've had with a flawless all star cast and just criminally underrated show in general!!

9. Who is your favourite actor in 4?

🤣🤣 Feel as if I've walked right into this one and y'all don't even need to hear the answer but that would be Owen Wilson, whose take on Mobius has honestly been life changing for me 💖

10. Which show do you prefer 1, 2 or 5?

Oh man as much as I adore Psych I'm stuck between Life on Mars and Good Omens on this one... Oh this is the worst, okay, I'm going... Life on Mars! When taking the point of how much I love both main pairs out of the picture there are more elements of and characters in LoM I think I enjoy more

11. Which show have you seen more episodes of 1 or 3?

I've watched both fully through multiple times but Life on Mars just edges by with having more episodes so that'll be the one!

12. If you could be anyone from 4, who would you be?

Loki or Ravonna just for sheer proximity of how much time would be spent around Mobius lmao, literally my only primary consideration

13. How would you kill off your favourite character in 5?

Laughing so hard at this because ironically my favorite character in Psych has pondered many scenarios potentially resulting in his own death lmao. If necessary he'd probably prefer a blaze of glory gunfight but I don't think he'd mind being taken out by his favorite land mine going off?? "Sweet music. And then…nothin' but red mist." 😂

14. Would a 3/4 crossover work?

Not necessarily unless you mean would it work in terms of turning me on in ways I've yet to experience in this life because yes, yes, and YES 😳😳

15. Pair two characters in 1 that would make an unlikely, but strangely okay couple.

Idk if it would be the most unlikely but Sam and Chris would've been cute and I always enjoyed how earnestly Chris ended up admiring Sam's approach to the work and who he is as a person

16. Overall, which show has the better cast, 3 or 5?

I mean Mad Dogs is my favorite show of all time in part because of how talented the cast is in balancing their roles and I can't see that changing plus I'd follow those guys anywhere

Tagging @faylights, @too-funky, @safedistancefrombeingsmart, @symphony-in-silver, @colourfulwatson, @bebx, @linz33y, @michaelsheens, @veraynes-blog, @aleerax, @abitofboth, @eyeldritch, @lovingvincent, @seekers-who-are-lovers, @z-aliada, and @alternatively-undesignated as always only if y'all feel like it plus anyone else who wants to join! 💕

[entomophagouserisian]

Incoming: some weeb shit I've folded one of my favorite math things into (permutations)

So I recently went back to Revolutionary Girl Utena because my girlfriend hadn't seen any of it yet and I hadn't seen much beyond season 1 (I know it's a foundational work of sword lesbianism and regret not having gone harder on it before).

I was kind of laughing with her about how edgy the translated lyrics of Zettai Unmei Mokushiroku (Absolute Destiny: Apocalypse, the song that plays during the scene where Utena climbs up to the arena every episode) and I noticed that there wasn't a translation for a chant at the end of it that hits my ear in a very pleasing way.

The chant in question:

Mokushi Kushimo

Shimoku Kumoshi

Moshiku Shikumo

The reason there is no translation is that it's mostly gibberish. They took the word "Mokushi" (Apocalypse) and rearranged the syllables in all possible ways to create this particular piece of poetry. The repetition of syllables in this way ends up feeling really good to my brain when I hear it and I have therefore been alternating between trying to memorize it and analyzing its structure for the past few days.

Unfortunately in order to present my process for this analysis I'm going to have to teach you some basics of the mathematical conception of permutations.

(The following aside into math is actually wholly unnecessary to my overall analysis, so feel free to skip to the clearly marked conclusion at the end if it feels like too much or you just don't feel like engaging with it)

A permutation is any reordering of a set of objects. Note that it's just reordering, it doesn't include deletions or the introduction of new elements or new copies of old elements. Commonly if we want to analyze permutations directly, and more specifically to talk about the permutation where the first object goes to 2nd position, second object to 3rd, third object to 1st, we use (123) (read as 1 goes to 2, 2 goes to 3, 3 goes to 1). As well, if the 3rd object stays put and the first two swap places, we would use (12) (read as 1 goes to 2, 2 goes to 1) to describe that. If no change is made, we usually just use (1) (read as one goes to one or the identity) to describe that. (This is very much lacking the rigor and generality that I would've preferred, but this post would've been substantially longer if I'd gone into that much detail, so I'm kind of hoping someone can come in with just this much explanation and understand what comes after)

So my first step in my analysis was to try to record how each of the "words" related to the base/actual word Mokushi (this is admittedly where it would be quite useful for me to change over to hiragana, but I don't know it and don't have a keyboard downloaded for it and don't feel like downloading one just for this post or copy/pasting the hiragana repeatedly, sorry to those of you who study/enjoy Japanese)

So, rewriting the chant as the permutations applied to Mo-Ku-Shi (written this way to emphasize the 3 objects being permuted):

(1) (132)

(123) (12)

(23) (13)

It was fun but didn't get me anywhere (other than verifying every possible ordering was present, but I was already pretty certain of that) so I instead chose to look at what permutation is happening at each step in the sequence rather than just how they compared to the original:

* (132)

(132) (13)

(132) (132)

Here, we see a much more obvious pattern. For all but one transformation, we are permuting by taking the first syllable and pushing to the end, moving the other two toward the beginning of the "word". To hear it, it is very easy to recognize the 2-syllable repeats happening throughout that first pulled my attention. However, this one permutation couldn't be done exclusively if they wanted to cover all possible permutations, as applying (132) 3 times brings you back to the original word, so the third Permutation is instead (13) which just reverses the syllables in this case since there's only 3 of them, but this also notably changes them to a "word" not yet seen which can bring us to the two we are still missing by applying (132) two more times.

It was after all of this that I properly noted that that middle step reversed the previous "word" and I mentally zoomed out to notice

~~~~Conclusion~~~~

the chant is set up to mirror itself. The pairs 1&6, 2&5, and 3&4 are all the reverse of one another, ordered such that for all but one pair heard in sequence, there is a 2-syllable repetition when moving from one word to the next. (Yes it took me this long to notice it was mirrored. No all that permutation work was definitely not necessary, but forgive a [likely autistic] math nerd for her indulgences.)

It's just a silly chant in a cartoon but it made me happy to see permutations in it and I am sincerely moved by the poetry of making gibberish out of a dark and serious word like apocalypse by listing off anagrams.

[muninnhuginn]

Li Tianchen and Li Tianxi timeline redux

Thought I'd do an updated version of this timeline with the information we have as of episode 11. The majority of it remains the same as my last attempt, but I've clarified some stuff around the photo/phone in early s2 and provided more character justification for certain actions.

There remain a couple of blank spots in the timeline where we can only infer what happens (Liu Lan and Chen Bin deaths). These may be shown in episode 12, but if they're not then we have to presume to take them at face value with our current knowledge.

X years prior to present day

Li Tianchen meets Liu Xiao at the fountain. Liu Xiao makes an impression on him as someone who was really cool for diving in to fetch his ball despite the water. At some point in this time period, but before his parents die, Li Tianchen shares his home situation with Liu Xiao.

Liu Xiao says that you have to really gun for what you want. He speaks of how the world is a "jungle" and only a few can evolve and become "hunters", else they must be prey. Li Tianchen internalises this.

Seven years prior to present day

Li Tianchen and Li Tianxi live with their parents. Their father (Li Fan) hears rumours of their mother (Liu Lan) cheating on him (rumours which their neighbour stoked as confirmed in ep 9) and uses it as an excuse to physically abuse her and threaten them all with a hammer when they try to help her. Li Tianchen and Li Tianxi flee to the other room. At this point, Li Tianchen and Li Tianxi are touching each other (but not Liu Lan) and Li Tianxi is clutching the photograph taken earlier that day. It appears as though Liu Lan (possessed) takes the hammer and approaches Li Fan but we don't get to see the full scene before CXS is thrown out of the dive and there is no knife involved at this stage. When we return, Liu Lan is dead by knife and Li Fan by hammer. Li Tianchen later claims to Qian Jin that he killed both of them. However, we haven't seen what actually happened and Tianxi's later retelling has a flashback of Liu Lan apologising to her which must happen sometime in the blanked out scene.

The twins meets Qian Jin at the site of the crime scene, who takes them both on board and modifies the police files relating to their case. The twins have their police files erased and vanish and Qian Jin quits the force.

Tianchen meets with Liu Xiao again sometime after this to update him on their situation.

Sometime in this gap, Qian Jin asks Tianchen to possess and kill his wife's co-worker. This is explicitly the first kill Qian Jin asks of Tianchen and it is someone LTC realises is innocent. This likely contributes towards his later mindset of him only being an "agent" of others when conducting murders and there being no "innocent victims".

Y months prior to the current day

We next see Tianchen and Qian Jin meeting with Liu Min. For Li Tianchen, this is the first time they meet. This appears to be several years later as Tianchen seems much older. Liu Min says Qian Jin has already helped "resolve matters with that woman" (I do think he literally means in a lawyerly way in retrospect rather than a murdery way, especially when QJ's first response to him asking to take care of the online attacks is to say "I'll send them letters".). As Liu Min has use of his legs at this point, this places this scene at prior to season one episode one and so months before season two.

Liu Min is asking QJ and Tianchen to target his "haters", that is, those who talk badly of him or spread rumours about him online, and his first target is Tianchen's former neighbour. It seems that the neighbour hasn't changed his rumour-spreading ways. Tianchen laughs.

Chronologically alongside and after season one episode one

Liu Min tries to threaten Emma after the games company news breaks and his embezzled money is at risk. It gets out of hand and he ends up with a crashed car and paralysed legs. Emma heads to the bridge, intending to commit suicide, but is stopped by Cheng Xiaoshi. Emma is then possessed via photo* and leaps to her death, Cheng Xiaoshi as the only "witness". This leaves Li Tianchen with some knowledge around Cheng Xiaoshi's role, but not the specifics of his powers. There's enough to make him intrigued and believe he may have found a worthy opponent (and/or saviour), but not enough to locate him with.

*Emma is possessed via the twins' combined photo-puppet powers. Usually Tianchen's powers leave his host unconscious with a blank space in their memory during the period he puppets them, but Tianxi has been shown to occasionally break through this (as in the cases of Liu Lan and Chen Bin).

End of season one/start of season two

Possessed Liu Min abducts Xu Shanshan and is invited to CXS's "game" the next day. When he shows at the photo shop he's trapped in the developing room where he mentions that he was "only an agent" (because he was carrying out the killings on behalf of someone else?) and that he would never kill "innocents". Once CXS reveals this was all a trap to get a confession, Tianchen then retreats from Liu Min. Liu Min is taken into police custody.

Later that day, when CXS jumps back to try and save Emma, Qiao Ling is possessed and stabs Lu Guang. When CXS returns, possessed QL claims that CXS "cheated" in their game and is able to figure out some details of CXS's powers. Possessed!QL also lets slip that CXS's powers "also" involve photos, with the "also" leaving CXS his own hint about the possessor's powers.

Liu Min is possessed again and made to commit suicide. It's unclear in which order Lu Guang's stabbing and Liu Min's "suicide" happen and whether they occur simultaneously or not. With the knowledge of the twins' powers we have as of episode 11 though, it doesn't seem possible for these events to have happened simultaneously.

Happening chronologically alongside season two episode two

Qian Jin retrieves a photo of Chen Bin and passes it on to Li Tianchen as they drive towards the hospital. In the car are QJ, XM, LTC, and LTX.

Chen Bin is puppeted, confiscates Liu Min's phone and passes it off to Xiao Ma (Qian Jin's lackey). Xiao Ma heads off the roof to leave Chen Bin to face his death. (Note: Tianxi's telling of her backstory shows a shot of Chen Bin apologising and crying. It could technically have taken place at any time, but it makes most sense it fits here)

Tianxi breaks free from Tianchen's control and runs off crying. Tianchen chases after her. She is wearing her school uniform and Tianchen his blue hoodie and mask combo.

(Speculation time! If we presume that CB crying flashback happens at the same time as LTX crying as she runs it would imply that CB dies immediately as Xiao Ma goes down the staircase. This would leave no time for one of the twins to make it up to the sixth floor or above in time to meet him. And we know from Lu Guang's descriptions to CXS/QL in ep 2 that the phone pass-off has to happen at sixth floor or above because Xiao Ma has to switch to the lift on that floor.

The best explanation I've seen to resolve this timing issue is that Tianxi broke free and removed Chen Bin's control before Tianchen was able to throw him off the building. This meant that Xiao Ma had to double back and physically yeet Chen Bin off the roof. Chen Bin who is a trained police officer, yes, but up against someone willing to play dirty. This would then gain the extra time needed for someone to make it up to the staircase to meet him. It would also explain how in Tianxi's tale (ep9) Tianchen appears to miss the family of bunnies that likely represent Chen Bin and his family. It also explains why Xiao Ma tells the twin he hands the phone off to that he had "handled the aftermath".

I don't know if at this stage we will get this confirmed, just because we only have one episode left and there's a decent amount to cover, but I do believe this explanation makes the most sense. Speculation time over.)

One of the twins at the staircase asks Xiao Ma for Liu Min's phone. They don't speak and the fringe seems to resemble Li Tianchen's. The outfit matches the last time we saw Tianchen chronologically (blue hood, mask). Xiao Ma also presumes this is Li Tianchen at the time. This occurs chronologically before the scene in the next paragraph as Xiao Ma is confronting CXS and QL when LG tries to leave his hospital room and is arrested immediately following the confrontation.

Lu Guang tries to leave the room and receives a photo from the same twin. This has a photo of Liu Lan and Li Tianxi on the front and the back says about not wanting to lose a good brother, with a childish doodle next to it. The twin delivering the photo wears a blue jacket and a mask which appears to match with the twin on the staircase.

Episode 11 seems to have confirmed that Tianchen was the twin to both retrieve the phone and give Lu Guang the photo. There's still a tiny bit of doubt left in me, but at the same time, I don't think there's much time left for another 'twist' on this point. Also, like, the clothing. If it were Tianxi, she would have to swap clothing, get up there to do both exchanges, then swap back to the school uniform she was in when she was found. Not to mention that we now have some justification for why Tianchen would hand off the photo (last glimpses of hope) and no real reason for why Tianxi would want to nab the phone. (Her current personality isn't particularly strategic or manipulative in terms of using the phone as leverage. She just wants to escape. The police also never found the phone on her when they took her in)

Season two episode three/four

A few days appear to have passed since episode two as Chen Bin's funeral has now taken place.

At some point during this period, Li Tianxi is found at the old games store near her old house. The police take her in, but as there is no missing person's report and she refuses to communicate, she remains in custody as an unknown person.

Qian Jin speaks to Xiao Ma and realises that one of the twins took Liu Min's phone. (He updates Liu Jing on this after the funeral though he may have known of it before). He doesn't confront Li Tianchen about this despite XM heavily implying it to be LTC who took the phone. I'm honestly not sure of his rationale here, but I suppose he is the type to stew in the idea of potential betrayal. And several of his later remarks to Tianchen become very pointed if you read them as warnings *to* Tianchen.

"Li Tianxi" phones Qian Jin. QJ asks "have you found him?" (The English subs here assign a gender which isn't there in the original) Qian Jin comments that this (plan) is "pretty risky" but so long as it's carried out before the police realise it should work. Most likely this is Li Tianchen disguised as Li Tianxi soon to walk straight into a police station. The person they're discussing looking for therefore is likely Tianxi herself. This "Tianxi" is wearing the pink hoodie as far as I can tell.

Qian Jin and Li Tianchen discuss the specifics of Li Tianchen's escape from the police station beforehand. Qian Jin lays out all the instructions of the plan so Tianchen just has to follow them and retrieve CXS.

"Li Tianxi" shows up at the police station and asks for CXS.

Season two episodes six to eight

Tianchen-as-Tianxi uses CXS's sympathies to get him to touch him whereupon he possesses him. He then also possesses Wang Juan and together they leave the police station. Tianchen makes it to the docks but isn't able to take CXS. Instead, LG is taken himself.

The police put out a notice for Li Tianxi only to realise that they already have her in custody and she clearly isn't the same twin they just interrogated.

Miscellaneous notes

Clothing-wise, in s2, we appear to have Li Tianchen wearing a blue hoodie and a mask during the hospital scenes and in the meeting with Liu Min. Even in his younger years, his general colour scheme was blue with bits of yellow.

Li Tianchen wears a pink hoodie, mask, and wig when disguised as Li Tianxi.

I don't think we ever actually see Li Tianxi herself wear the pink hoodie, though I could be forgetting something. Still, when not in her school uniform, her colour scheme does seem to align with pink.

In both cases I suspect the mask is used to obscure their identity. You could make an argument for there genuinely being a safety element to it, though we only really have Tianchen-as-Tianxi's sob story to contribute to that.

It's really fun how Tianchen turns the rhythm of the interrogation back on CXS

Liu Min's phone has "family secrets" on it according to QJ and Liu Jing's ep 3 conversation. Implications about Liu Xiao??

I can't place exactly when Li Tianchen meets Liu Xiao again, but am reasonably sure the chronology in the episode is accurate here and it's before LTC meets Liu Min for the first time. Liu Xiao said that LTC would have opportunities to "hunt" in the near future and there Liu Min was. Also, we know that Liu Xiao was studying abroad around the time of the present timeline so it has to have occurred before then (from the 'will we meet again' and 'it's almost time' I'm tempted to say this scene is just before LX leaves for abroad honestly).

Also, LX says the difference between a 'hunter' and a 'beast' is that a hunter hunts even when not hungry - this is where the scales get tipped from self-defence to actively killing - it's an important mental shift for LTC.

[culttvblog]

The Lovers: Sardine Sandwiches (Seventies TV Season)

Content warning: rape

The introduction to this series of posts on 1970s TV shows can be found here: https://www.tumblr.com/culttvblog/729351469162233856/seventies-tv-season-introduction

I commented in the introductory post to this series that 1970s TV can be incredibly problematic, featuring sexism, racism, all kinds of sexual offences and so on. Regular readers will know my long-term policy is that I only blog about TV which I consider good, and will not platform entertainment featuring racism, sexism, etc. Nonetheless I was very aware that there was quite a lengthy list of shows that I wouldn't be blogging about and was slightly worried that this series of posts would end up being a series of three or four.

For that reason I was delighted to discover this 1970-71 series, about the toings and froings in love of a young couple played by legendary and much-loved actors Richard Beckinsale (Geoffrey Scrimshaw) and Paula Wilcox (Beryl Battersby). Beckinsale is probably best known for Porridge and Rising Damp before his tragically early death and all I can say is that I can't overstate the affection in which he is held. Wilcox is just as well known and her credits include Man About the House (obviously not frightened of the sexy stuff) and Emmerdale. Nothing could possibly go wrong with these two much-loved characters in a show which has a 12 certificate on its Network DVD release.

So it hit me like a lorry when, two minutes and twenty seconds in to this the first episode, Geoffrey is eyeing Beryl across a market and thinking about her before audibly saying, 'Oh God, I want to rape her!', followed by a laugh track.

WHAT.

And that was how, four posts in, this series crashed straight into the rock which is 1970s sexual attitudes. Don't get me wrong, I love all the sexy stuff from the seventies: I love sex comedies, I love the Confessions films, I love dirty jokes, my inner world makes the baby-eating bishop of Bath and Wells look naive. I was fully expecting to be dealing with sexy stuff in posts about the TV of the decade that goes with sex like fish goes with chips, but, come on. Rape? But then this was the age in which Peter Wyngarde released a record in which he 'sang' about rape.

I don't even think that something so wrong that early in the show is the reason I had never heard of it until I came across it down the back of the Internet Archive. Bearing in mind that this show was made in the age when pretty much everything was about getting 'it', and if it wasn't about getting 'it', it was about what you did once you'd got it to get more of 'it', there's something that doesn't sit right about this series.

To avoid any further beating about the bush the problem is that for a show called The Lovers, Geoffrey and Beryl aren't actually making love at all. I haven't watched the entire series so have no idea how it progresses, but a whole TV show about a young couple who obviously want sex, and the way each of them takes it in turn to sabotage the other's attempts to get to the point, frankly isn't the best viewing. It should really be called 'Self-Sabotage', rather than The Lovers.

There is a problem with this episode (again, I have no idea how this plays out over the whole series, but have seen one other episode and suspect that this may have changed as the series progressed) which is that this episode gives a vibe that it is Beryl stopping any sex happening and that she should just give it up to him. There, I've said it. It gives the impression that she is 'playing hard to get' and should just put it out for him and leap into bed. You will gather that I'm really finding this show quite distasteful. In fact the reason it's appearing here is mainly because it's an unusual character for Richard Beckinsale which I think readers might like to see, but as a whole the show is a terrible misstep.

I watch every TV episode I blog about here at least twice and of course I've found myself thinking about how I wish this show could have been. Obviously they should have got rid of the reference to rape, because that wasn't entertaining even in 1970. Other shows manage to have two protagonists who combine incredible sexual chemistry with never getting to the point (I mean, look at Steed and Mrs Peel), but they usually are shows about something other than the protagonists' relationship. This would have been good set in a workplace, hospital, or even university and that would have provided an additional subject for the show. I haven't seen this said anywhere, so I'm guessing, but this feels like the show is trying to be about the relationship, but is ending up being about the couple's wanting sex and that's where it goes wrong. It could have been all about how their relationship developed; for example we are told in the first episode that they've obviously known each other some time and had some sort of tiff or disagreement, and there we potentially have a whole episode of a show all about a relationship.

So I wouldn't necessarily suggest anyone watches this except for a different Beckinsale role, and a quite magnificent collection of 1970s decor, for example that wallpaper forming the background to Beckinsale smooching a life-size cut-out of Brigitte Bardot. If you slept with that wallpaper you absolutely would dream about Brussels sprouts.

The seventies were obviously a different age, and I'm glad they're gone.

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[castle-dominion]

6x2 dreamworld

Castle still hasn't told becks that esposito thinks dreamworld is a thing. Or yk say "I heard abt it for derek storm"

There was only one existing "vial" of toxin? I mean like...

& then isn't US healthcare rly bad?

Is castle allowed in the investigation now?

"You told esposito?"

I think BRONSON thought it did

Lol castle, who is dying, is doing better than beckett.

Only an hour or two? how close is their thinking? he has 10-12 hours living & then another 1-2 hours?

reporter's gonna be dead

sleep when I'm dead" lol

RC: And if it doesn’t work out, I’ll be out of your hair by the end of the day.

RmC: Is he always such a character?

You know, cops lie to you all the time. Be careful.

Just having this convo in a coffee shop?

IDK much abt this, I've seen it before & I'm still confused.

RmC is talking so slowly...

Oh heck yeah, the sec of defense is SO hiding stuff.

He has a slight lisp, his S is an SH.

Beckett is too much of a homicide cop, she talks to people firmly instead of being polite to this guy.

If it indeed does exist.

Is he lying when becks asked him abt valkyrie?

how much of the toxin do they HAVE?

Wasn't that beckett's ringtone in earlier seasons?

If I'm not there tomorrow <3 <3 <3

Martha KNOWS something is wrong.

Oof those "see you tomorrow"s dsjlskdjfslkdjf

The washington monument lol.

Love dual citizenship.

K but how is the antidote administered?

& how MUCH toxin/antidote is there? Maybe it is a rly small thing & he DOES have it in his backpack but it's so small u didn't notice at first.

RC: Thanks. For letting me be a part of this.

Vilante: When you write your next novel, maybe you’ll find a place for a dashing Colombian American federal agent.

RC: Consider it done.

Rasheed: (laughs) You have a gift for making every fact sound sinister.

That's cops for ya.

But you left AFTER he did...

Oh he was following him & then they talked & then it didn't matter who left first.

Here's the plot: Rasheed saw Bronson holding the dead body of a young woman, Bronson pulled a gun on him, they kept it a secret.

Bronson thinks rasheed told someone.

He could come up with a lie like that, plenty of people do.

Btw bronson was in that car for ages, what if he exposed other ppl to that toxin babes? Also did they ever figure out who planted the aeresol toxin in his car?

"We've been trying to highlight things for years, we didn't realize that the highlighters were black" -the fbi

Not since typewriters. i & W. & the music too.

Love a good old transcript. https://dustjackets.fandom.com/wiki/6x02_transcript

INT – TWELFTH PRECINCT BULLPEN

KEVIN RYAN and JAVIER ESPOSITO exit the elevator.

KEVIN RYAN:

I just always thought that you and I would have kids together.

All the fangirls: wHat.?

(clipped)

Martha going to rysposito for help <3

Castle & his bad coffee lol.

It is his death, he can joke about it if he wants.

Lol typing.

Dun dun dun, valkyrie is the servant girl who is getting killed in there. Whoops.

Dun dun dun he mentioned dreamworld.

Vilante is me: But if he wanted to silence Bronson, why would he go to the trouble of setting him up first? And none of this explains the theft of the toxin.

So confused.

lmao waterboarding the truth out of secretary reed.

My man has a NICE house

"the woman whose husband is dying"

Ask him "then tell me who to actually ask about!"

rysposito calling beckett & castle's mom & all this stuff...kjsdkfhsjdk

She's smart but risked her job on it.

Also yeah castle is getting more shortness of breath, how long does he have now?

The reporter boy claimed the body of the servant agent?

Why would the reporter, Brad, have given up his information earlier in the episode then?

It's one of the oldest motives there is.

RC: I was given less than a day to live just a little less than a day ago

(i shouldn't find that funny)

Man has a nice apartment, too bad Castle doesn't have his writer vest tho

WOULD he have all that info in his house? is he that messy?

But maybe becks should call the doc anyway so he can administer it bro...

Oh now that is sick (so cool & poetic tho)

You & your stupid hunches <3.

Looks a bit like the guy from the show mum & lil bro are watching. oliver queen.

The sugarbowl

Also nobody knew he had an appointement for an interview with the wife? rly?

Castle *falls*

anTidote babe.

Oh Castle is going to wake up & trip this guy lol.

Oh it's mccord,, not castle. too bad. Good how she trusted her partner's hunches tho.

So castle almost dies & then makes a full recovery?

INT – HOSPITAL

KB: Castle.

Her voice is soft over the beep of the machines. She reaches out to stroke his neck.

KB: Castle.

He hums as he travels back into wakefulness.

KB: Hey.

She smiles.

RC: Hi. I had the strangest dream and you were there.

MR: Oh, thank God.

AC: Hey Dad.

RC: And you were there and you were there.

They grab is hand.

Pi: Hey Mr. C. I did some healing reiki on you. Looks like it worked.

RC: (dryly) And you were there.

(I love Pi. Lives in amsterdam where shrooms & weed are legal, lived in costa rica & went home with Alexis even tho he doesn't have a passport, later on becomes a bee counting biologist or smth, lights up sage, practices reiki, he is a very culturally learned man.)

Ooh th emusic djfksldfsdkjflskjd

Beckett chill, it's like when you let drug dealers off the hook bc they help with your murder investigation. You do that all the time.

That's what partners do <3 <3 <3

I think I got some clips from this one...

[ggthydrangea]

XDH!!!! i've actually been listening to their songs on repeat lately and all 12 of their songs are such bangers!!! i think i might have to learn their names now 😂

also same, i am a HUGE sucker for a button down shirt. like any variation of it - normal button down shirt; with a suit; with the loose tie; with the sleeves rolled up.....i am just wrecked lol (i am very normal about this)

wait tabi i literally have the first video you linked here saved in my watch later on youtube LOL, the 3racha colorful pants one 🤣 i have to watch it soon!! i love 3racha (i love all the boys 💖)

CHAN DANCING TO MY HOUSE??? i have not seen this video thank you for enlightening me as a baby stay 🥺 also this caused me to go search on youtube for a link to skz's stage where they performed my house with the 8 of them and i found this video instead HAHAH THE TITLE MADE ME LAUGH BUT ALSO?? SO TRUE??? also lee know with the sheer back let's not talk about that i'm still not over it also chan's neckline on his shirt in that stage should be illegal

the kkulchong edm song LOL i actually watched a video about this the other day as well hahaha we must be on the same wavelength. i haven't watched the chan's room part though so i shall watch it now <3 i remember seeing a clip of changbin telling him that he was wasting his talent on making this song for lino 😂

THE PUPPY INTERVIEW i loved the way chan basically forgot there was an interview because of the puppies 🥺 also yes chan as MC at kcon LA 2022.....honestly made me be like "woah who's that?? hes so adorable" when i saw him HAHAHA. and HERE I AM NOW!!

i forget if i mentioned this to you already but charmer is one of my favs for real (especially the lino fancams ugh).......also i just love the song in general and the choreo!!! i would die if saw that live oh man. on the ground crying hahah

chan's smile is the cutesttttt, and yes i love the vampire thunderous stage too, you are so right for all these fancams especially the all in ones, I LOVE ALL IN. the 2 all in fancams you linked are also two of my favs bc theyre some of my fav lino looks as well 😂😂 the way that chan's shirt keeps coming up though because of the length of his shirt in these stages hahaha 👀

your three fav colors you mentioned are also my favs, with blue being my most fav color hahahaha <3 i hope work is not too stressful the next two weeks :(( and boba!! what is your go-to boba order haha? as for me, work is busy this week but i'm looking forward to going home next week and i also don't have to work the week between xmas and new years so im very much looking forward to that :D i also just like the holiday season vibes in general, end of the year and all that lol (plus, end of the year stages hehe). and i took myself out to a movie this wkd so that was fun :)

Sorry it took me so long to reply!!! 😭 I don't know if you saw my post but I got sick so I've just been really tired and bluh. But I'm better now!!! How are you doing?

Yes!!! XH is so good!!! What are your favorite songs from them?

Haha I love that we share that weakness, button down shirts are just where it's at. 😔

Yes you have to watch it!!! It's one of my favorite 3racha Chan's Room episodes it's so funny!!! 😂

I'm still kind of a baby stay myself but I'm glad I can introduce you to some new videos! Haha that's a great video! Watching those fancams is so dangerous that stage shouldn't be allowed!!! 😭

Changbin's reaction to the song was so funny, and the way Chan was just like Minho asked me to so here I am. XD

It was so cute! He was so entranced by the puppies he had nothing left for the questions... But then he told a dad joke and I was like... How is it possible for me to love him even more??? I love a good dad joke.

Charmer is lethal. 😔 I think you might have mentioned that, which makes sense it's incredible!

Sometimes Chan has real good fancams 👌👌👌 Yes the suffering of his shirt length... They need to give that man a full shirt more often, Chan stans can only take so much. 😂

Ooo I love that we have the same favorite colors!

I have like 3 top boba orders, at least from ShareTea which is the boba place in my area. There's Wintermelon with Fresh Milk, Mango Green Milk Tea, and Thai Tea! All with regular pearls, I love the tapioca pearls!

I'm glad you have some time off, it's nice to have time to just chill! Holiday vibes can be fun, I love seeing all the houses and trees decorated with lights it's so pretty to see!

[bi-bard]

Unfortunate Alliances - Winchester Brothers Imagine (Supernatural)

Title: Unfortunate Alliances

Pairing: Winchester Brothers X Child!Reader (18), Mary Winchester X Child!Reader (18)

Word Count: 2,131 words

Warning(s): mentions torture and violence

Summary: (Season 12, Episodes 13 & 15) After everything that had happened, (Y/n)'s hopes were that they would never have to see or hear from the British Men of Letters. Unfortunately, not everyone in their life agreed with that sentiment.

Author's Note: Hahaha... no. I am not sorry if this hurts. That's the goal.

Find more imagines for this OC here!!

Hey! I did a rewrite of the ending of Supernatural. It took a really long time to complete, so it would mean a lot to me if you check it out. Here’s a link! (it’s on my personal account)

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I placed my hand over my heart as Gavin and Fiona disappeared.

"I hope they got to be happy," I said. "With whatever time they got."

"Since when were you such a romantic," Dean asked.

"Since forever," I replied. "You're the reason that I've seen as many romcoms as I have."

"Yeah, haha," Dean joked, pulling me into a headlock to ruffle my hair. "Whatever you say, kid."

Sam rolled his eyes at us, going to the map room table with his laptop. He started looking for any report of Fiona's killings.

"Anything," I asked, sitting in the chair next to him.

"Nope," he replied. "Looks like nothing so far."

"Good, it worked," I grinned.

I held a hand up for a high-five. Sam chuckled but high-fived me.

As he continued searching for reports in other places, Mary walked into the bunker.

"Hey," I said happily.

We had gotten pretty close these last few weeks. After our first hunt together without the boys, we just seemed to click. She told me all kinds of stories from when she was younger and did her best to make me feel comfortable talking to her. I told her a few stories, but they weren't nearly as interesting as hers.

It was nice. Having another person to go to. I didn't get that very often in this line of work.

"Hey," she grinned at me.

She seemed nervous. Almost guilty.

"Been a while," Dean mentioned. "A long, long, long, long, long-"

"We missed you," Sam cut in. "Glad your back."

She held up her hands, "Burgers. Beer."

"Forgiven," Dean nodded, accepting the food.

"Wait," she reached into another plastic bag. "I remember (Y/n) mentioning these sparkling lemonades that they couldn't seem to track down."

She placed a bottle on the table. I let out an excited laugh and grabbed it.

"Thank you," I said. "Holy crap. Where'd you find this?"

"Some random gas station a few hours out," she shrugged, setting the bag on the table. "There's a few extra in there."

I opened the bottle and took a sip. Sam and Dean were looking so I made sure to let out a dramatic sigh as I smiled. They both chuckled and rolled their eyes.

"So," Dean turned to his mom. "What have you been up to?"

"Oh," she sighed, shrugging. "Jogging, tai chi, meditation. Melting rugaru brains."

"Melting," I asked.

That guilty look came back. She just stared at the three of us.

"Mary," I pushed.

She looked at me for a moment before looking at the ground for a moment.

"There's no easy way to say it, so I'm just gonna say it," she sighed, looking back at us. "I have sort of... been... working with the British Men of Letters."

My heart dropped. I genuinely thought I heard it hit the cement floor of the bunker.

"The British Men of Letters," I asked. She nodded. "You mean the group that not only tortured me... but also one of your sons."

"I- I know," she replied. "It was a hard decision. But they're doing good work. I have helped them save people, a lot of people. We can learn from them."

The tension in the room grew as Sam, Dean, and I all sat in silence. It all culminated in me standing up, throwing the chair I had been sitting in backward. I went to walk out. My mind was going into overdrive.

"(Y/n)," I heard Dean behind me. He grabbed my arm. "Hey, hey-"

"It was all bullshit," I snapped, shoving Dean away and looking at Mary again. "All of the bonding. Hunting together, remembering my stories, remembering my favorite things. It was all bullshit."

"(Y/n)-"

"Don't give me some rambling crap," I cut her off. "These two. They're your kids. Probably thought that they'd trust you right away, right? Me? I was a challenge. We didn't have any history. You had to try to get on my good side so you could try to convince me, huh? How much of you acting like you care was just in the hopes of getting me to side with you?!"

I was shaking.

She looked down.

I scoffed when she did, "Fuck you. Royally."

I went to storm out of the room again. I heard Dean following me, but I didn't stop moving until I got to my room.

Dean closed my door and pulled me into a hug. I finally let the wall break; anger giving way to sadness.

"I wanted to trust her," I muttered as I cried into his shirt. "I thought we were closer than this."

"I know, I know," he mumbled, rubbing my back lightly. I tried to talk again. "Nope. Don't do that. You've got nothing to explain. Just breathe, kid."

I just stood there and cried. How could I manage to trust someone so fast only for them to turn their back on me in a moment?

I felt like such an idiot.

--time skip [episode 15]--

I dove headfirst into hunting.

I avoided any and all conversation about the British Men of Letters. The brothers respected that much. I was 18. I didn't have nearly as much experience with torture and kidnapping as they seemed to. I couldn't shrug it off so easily.

The two of them didn't discuss it in front of me. Mostly because my position wasn't up for debate. I would not be working with the British Men of Letters. Ever.

They understood that.

At least... I thought they did.

We had just gotten back from a hellhound case. After listening to Cas's update about Kelly Kline being with another Prince of Hell, I placed my backpack on the map room table, mumbling something about having dibs on the first shower.

Sam's phone buzzed a few moments later.

"Is that your computer talking to you again," Dean asked.

Sam had been telling us all about this new computer program that had been sending him potential cases. It seemed to be working pretty well.

"Uh... no," Sam mumbled. "It's... Mick Davies."

"What," Dean and I asked at the same time.

"I don't have a computer program feeding me cases," he confessed. "Every job we've worked in the last two weeks? They've come from the British Men of Letters."

I sighed, "What the hell, Sam?"

"Really," Dean asked.

"Yeah," Sam nodded. "I didn't tell you guys because of how much you both hate them."

"No, no," I corrected, pointing between the three of us. "We hate them. All of us. Remember?"

"I get that, I do," he sighed. "But... because of Mick and his guys, the alpha vampire is dead. They get results-"

"That shouldn't matter-"

"I don't like them either, but if we can save people, then it...," he trailed off.

I looked at Dean, who was staring down at the table, avoiding all eye contact.

"I shouldn't have lied to you both and I'm sorry," Sam continued.

"Well, okay," Dean finally muttered.

"Okay," Sam asked

"What do you want me to say," he held his arms out. "Do I like it? No. Do I trust them? Hell, no. But you're right."

"I'm sorry," I asked. My heart dropped. Just like when I found out about Mary. He can't be serious.

"We work with people we don't trust all the time," Dean continued. "I mean, I just Liam Neeson'd it up with Crowley-"

"Crowley gets bonus points because he saved my life," I cut him off. "You can't actually be considering this."

"(Y/n), if Sam wants to give this a shot-"

"No," I snapped, stepping away from both of them. "Th-They... They tortured me. They tortured you, Sam. And now we're supposed to work with them? No. No. I refuse."

Sam stepped forward. I took another set of frantic steps back.

"No," I yelled.

The entire room went silent for a minute. I watched them.

"Are you... Are you actually going to work with them," I asked.

Dean took a deep breath, "Yeah."

I let it sit like a stone in my stomach.

"Then... I'm leaving," I said. "I won't work with them. No."

"(Y/n)-"

"I'm not discussing this, Sam," I stopped him. "You two can work with them, but I will be leaving. I'm gonna call Cas and ask to help him with the search for Kelly. I... I can't stay here. I'm sorry. I just... I can't."

I grabbed my bag and walked to my room.

Neither one of them stopped me.

Once I got to my room and closed the door, I grabbed my phone, quickly dialing Cas's number.

"Hello," he said.

"Hi Cas," I grinned a little when I heard him. "I know you probably don't want me involved, but... can I come help you track down Kelly?"

"(Y/n), I don't know-"

"Please, Cas," I begged. "Come on, two heads would be better than one. We work well together. I think it'd be a good idea."

"Is there a reason you want to," he asked. I knew my voice had been shaky.

"No, no," I replied quickly. "I just want to help. Sam and Dean have nothing over here and I'm getting antsy."

"Okay," he muttered. "I can be there in a few days."

"That's great," I let out a sigh of relief. "I'll be waiting. Give me a call when you're a couple of hours out."

"Okay."

I hung up the phone and let out a shaky breath. I just needed to get out. That's all I could think of. I just needed to leave.

--time skip--

I had a bag packed at the foot of my bed. I was just packing up my laptop and chargers when I heard footsteps coming down the hall. I turned around.

"This isn't up for debate anymore," I told Dean as soon as I saw him. "I'm leaving as soon as Cas gets here."

"(Y/n), I need you to listen-"

"This shouldn't need to be a discussion," I snapped. "They tortured me. They tortured Sam. Pretty sure they tried to kill you. Yet you are jumping at the chance to work with them."

"They're doing good work," Dean argued.

"It doesn't feel like good work," I replied. "I... I won't stand behind the organization that wanted me dead. The same organization that wanted the only family I have left dead. I'm going to at least do something that makes me feel like I'm doing good work."

"And going with Cas is that?"

"Finding and protecting Kelly from whatever being may have gotten to her, yeah," I nodded. "That's good."

"(Y/n)!"

I grabbed my bags and walked past Dean. I shut off the light to my room and headed down the hall. Cas was walking down to meet me.

"Hey," I said with a grin.

"Are you alright," he asked. "You sounded upset on the phone."

"It's... It's not important right now," I shook my head. I didn't want to force him to turn his back on Sam and Dean by trying to explain what happened before I collected my thoughts.

He just nodded, seeming to understand my hesitation, "Are you ready to go?"

I nodded in response, following him out to the truck. The brothers followed us outside. I threw my bag in the backseat and sat in the passenger seat.

"(Y/n)," Dean put his hand on the door, stopping me from closing it. "Come on. This isn't funny."

"Dean, I didn't call Cas for shits and giggles."

"Get your ass out of the truck."

"No," I snapped. "I am leaving. Let go of the door."

With a huff, Dean finally stepped back.

I pulled the door shut.

Sam and Dean just watched as Cas started the engine.

The two of us sat in silence for a while as he drove. I just looked out the window, wanting to ignore anything that had happened.

"What was that about," Cas asked after we had been driving for a while.

"I really-"

"I need to know, (Y/n)," Cas cut me off.

I let out a sigh, "Sam, Dean, and Mary are all going to work with the British Men of Letters. I... I couldn't do it."

Cas pulled over suddenly.

"Are you being serious," he asked. I nodded.

Cas pulled me into an awkward hug from the driver's seat. My hands touched his arm as I closed my eyes.

"I'm so sorry," he mumbled.

I leaned back and took a deep breath. Cas looked at me for a second before starting to drive again.

"What do you have on Kelly and Dagon," I asked, trying to change the subject.

Cas glanced at me.

"Please," I begged. "I... I want to help, Cas. Please."

Cas took a deep before nodding, "Okay. Fine."

I grinned at him.

Finally, it felt like someone was actually hearing me.

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[anotherday-anothergay]

How I'm rewiring my brain about this not being the end, a list:

1. "But Jodie looked so sad on the last day and also the interviews"

Okay? They told everyone it's the last ep. so that everyone reacts to it like us, then some time after Pwb (if we so want to mirror the old episodes👀 and end how it started) or some mastermind gets the old crew together, none of these silvias and so on and they shoot it OKAY

(i shouldn't have started with the craziest one BUT stick with me)

2. Even if this didn't happen now they basically have the episode written, they got dragged not just by us but by publications, other writers, Jodie and Sandra are so suspiciously silent about the end of the show that THEY LED AND WON AWARDS OVER, like.. this end benefits no one

3. All the plot holes this season, all the characters archs, like.. what was the point of all that (Kennys death, Konstantins letter, Carolyns point and dare?? Pam?? The Twelve?? (that i keep forgetting to even mention) ?? Villanelle being weaponless and unprotected on the deck?? The gap between s3 and s4??

4. The Carolyn spin-off?? But it's young Carolyn from what I've heard, do they think we're just gonna hate watch it??

5. Alienating their base viewers, how do they think people are gonna re-stream it now? (Homophobia (google it))

6. As people have mentioned, if they've had the kiss episode on Lesbian Visibility Day and the mom episode on Mothers day, a Villajesus return ON FREAKING EASTER - AND - BEING THE 33TH EPISODE since we're so into religion/rebirth/ressurection (RE-DO) this season?? Iconic.

7. Point 6. and Villanelle's arch that she wants to do better, Eve's arch that V is the only one who gets her. Like cmon, L*ura, u gotta be kidding us

8. It's 2022.

9. Even if an episode doesn't happen I'm sure someone's gonna ask Jodie about the ending and she's gonna give a hint of an ambiguous ending (UNLIKE THE WR*TERS)

10. I know some of yall pretend the ep ended on minute 38 which is a good cop out too, not me though, i rewatched that shit many times, forward and backwards, frame by frame, pixel by pixel, to look for signs of vitality so im going the faking-her-death route.

11. Which.. is HOW IT'S IN THE BOOKS. THE 👏 OFFICIAL 👏 BOOKS 👏 THAT THE SHOW WAS BASED ON

12. If they redeem themselves Luke sold some books in the meantime, people stop hating them, everyone wins. If they dont - everyone loses.

13. I can't comprehend how a show this witty and aware is just gonna throw it all away, it doesn't make sense.

14. (personal, with my clown dress on tonight) Im gonna conspire with the universe that it doesn't end like this, I've never cared about a show this much, they're clowning us but im gonna clown them harder, ME AND THIS SHOW ARE ENDING UP ALONE IN A ROOM TOGETHER! (not one with padded walls hopefully😭)

15. (also personal) I'm not really always optimistic but I've settled my mind about this case, I'm not going back to how i felt on sunday and monday. I've seen (good) things happening irl that if you told me about some years ago i would've laughed or sobbed so if it's "just fiction" then it's even easier to fix it. FIX IT!!!

16. THE PHYSICS?? OF THE SHOOTING SCENE?? GAYS DID MATH!

Either way I'm glad about the memes and the theories and the community around it, it made this week easier now after how it started.

I sure will add more to the list if i start having doubts again, EVERYTHING'S FINE

[bustyasianbeautiespod]

Episode 20 Transcript: They Don't Even Say Jenny's Name!

[intro guitar music]

G: Hello, my name is Grey.

C: And my name is Crystal.

G: And this is Busty Asian Beauties, the Supernatural commentary podcast where I, someone who has seen this show several times…

C: And I, someone who only knows the show through social media, discuss every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. Also, we are both Asian.

G: Both Asian!

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G: So for today's episode, we will be discussing Season 1, Episode 20: “Dead Man's Blood,” written by Cathryn Humphris and John Shiban, directed by Tony Wharmby.

C: Wait, oh my god, Cathryn Humphris worked on Elementary as well?

G: Elementary, yeah! Yeah. I was gonna-

C: Okay, all the good things in this episode were her, and all of the bad things were John Shiban. I've decided this. [G laughs]

G: Yeah.

Okay, before we start with the episode, Crystal and I, again, have an announcement.

C: We're pregnant again!

G: [laughs] We're- we're pregnant again. But also, that [overlapping] we're doing a Q&A.

Okay, so we're having a Q&A to mark the end of our season 1 rewatch. So we will be accepting questions or any feedback that you want our response on directly through our Tumblr asks, @s, and DMs, Twitter @s and DMs, YouTube comments, and email. So, all of those links are in our description for the podcast, so just contact us! Send us questions, you guys.

C: Hit us up.

G: Yeah.

C: Please send us questions.

G: Do send us questions. And the deadline of the questions are April 3, 2022 - so if you're listening in the future, my bad - at 12 AM. So 00:00 Eastern Standard Time. Which is 12 noon in the Philippines, if [laughing] you are one of the 12 people from the Philippines who listen to us.

C: Yeah, and to clarify that's midnight on April 2. So the very beginning of April 3 or the very end of April 2, Eastern Time.

G: Yes. That's like, a day and a half after we release the last episode of season 1, so it's a bit of a tight schedule, but I hope you guys send your questions in still.

C: Yeah, and you can send them in about earlier episodes. It doesn't have to be about the finale. So hopefully, there will be something.

G: Yeah. We would prefer if you focus on season 1, but if you just have general questions about the show, the podcast, and Supernatural, it's also fine. Thank you guys for sending in questions!

C: Thank you!

G: Thank you!

Okay, so let's start with the episode itself. "Dead Man's Blood." We are nearing the end of season 1. Crystal, what did you know about this episode going in?

C: Well, I know dead man's blood is the way to weaken a vampire, and [laughing] I also know that we haven't gotten to Jenny yet in season 1, so I was pretty sure this was the Jenny episode, and also that the vampires have the Colt in some way, and John comes back, and that's sort of the plot of the episode. But I guess I didn't know the details. Oh, also I knew that they used Dean as bait.

G: I have a question, by the way. Who is Jenny?

C: Jenny is the girl who got captured with her boyfriend and then forcibly turned into a vampire.

G: Yes, right? Did we ever hear her name?

C: Huh.

G: Because I'm willing to bet no.

C: Sorry, I just ctrl+F-ed for "Jenny" in the transcript, and there's no results.

G: So, is this or is this not Jenny?

C: I mean it is, right?

G: It- I'm pretty sure it is, but the whole time, I was like, "When are they gonna say her name? And how is Dean gonna know her name?" Because at the finale, Dean goes, "Jenny!" And it's like [laughing] "Who the fuck is this chick?" Sorry for calling her "chick." Dean is rubbing on you.

C: [laughing] Grey's third misogyny moment in this podcast.

But yeah, I- yeah, no, they literally never say her name! How?

G: They literally never say her name. So I was like, while watching, I was like, "This is for sure Jenny, right?" But I was convinced that she's gonna show up again next episode, because they don't resolve her plot. We don't even know that she becomes a vampire.

C: We do. Her little yell/hiss was not a human vocal cord sort of yell/hiss.

G: Yeah, but like, it not like, "Oh, she's part of the pack now" or anything, you know?

C: Yeah she is, because she helps Kate. She like, grabs Kate and tells her to run after-

G: Oh, really? For real? That was her?

C: Yeah. I couldn't tell either, but I had to look up her actress and like, put the faces next to each other and stare for a bit.

G: Apparently, my faced blindness doesn't only exist for white men. [laughs] It also exists for white women.

C: Sorry, women.

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G: Okay, so let's start with the actual episode and our pre-banter.

So the "previously on" in this episode is very good. It's so good! So it's - a lot of the scenes that we see in this "previously on" are clips that they haven't used before. What did you think about this "previously on"? Did you like it as well?

C: Well, as we've mentioned, Sam and John is the thing that we are sensitive about, and this "previously on" was basically the Sam and John speedrun. So yeah, I enjoyed it.

G: After that, we go into a bar. So, someone is sitting by the counter of the bar, and this person is flipping through what looks like a hunter's journal. It looks exactly like John's, to the point that I thought it was John's. I was like, "Oh, it's Dean!" And then we pan to his hand, and it's an old man's hand, and I was like, "Oh, it's fucking JDM?" I need to stop calling JDM "JDM." Like, he's John Winchester, but also, he is JDM. They have the same face.

C: They do.

G: [laughs] That- that's such a weird thing to say, though. Like, they have the same face, of course. But Sam doesn't look like Jared.

C: [overlapping] No, but- no, but literally- yes. Sam doesn't look like Jared Padalecki, Cas does not at all look like Misha Collins.

G: At all, yeah.

C: Dean and Jensen Ackles look sort of similar.

G: Yeah, and JDM is literally John Winchester. [laughs]

C: Yeah.

G: We pan to the face. It's not John or Dean, it's this guy named Mr. Elkins. So we get some exposition from the bartender that Mr. Elkins is basically an old man who lives by himself and sits on that seat every single day, flipping through his notebook.

C: And she's talking about him like, two feet away from him, calling him "a nut." [laughs] Like, girl.

G: Yeah! Suddenly, a group of younger people - I guess late 20s is the vibes?

C: Maybe, yeah.

G: And they're like, supposed to feel like punks, right?

C: Right. We're supposed to be afraid of them because they wear leather jackets and look cooler and sexier than everyone else.

G: They get in the bar and Mr. Elkins - who, at this point we think is a hunter because of his notebook - eyes them up really suspiciously, which, you know, makes us feel like these punks are monsters in some way. They request a bottle of jack, and when the bartender turns around, she notices that Mr. Elkins is not there anymore. We cut outside to a truck, and Mr. Elkins is driving it. He steps out of the truck and into a cabin, which is apparnetly his house. And he notices a girl inside, the same girl from the bar. She says, like, "It's been a while. I gotta say, you look old." And he asks what she wants. And she says, "What do you think?" Like, this girl speaks in a certain way that's like, I don't know, supposed to be sexy, I guess? [both laugh]

C: I don't know.

G: I also don't know. But she speaks a certain way, and it is a fascinating like, voice that she puts on.

C: I think it's just supposed to be a vampire voice or something.

G: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He throws a knife at her, and she looks down at it and pulls it out of her chest. Cascore! Very Cascore.

C: Cascore.

G: And the hunt begins. So the man goes into a room and locks it by moving a cabinet against the door. He goes to his safe, where he brings out a Colt and starts loading it. So, okay, I have a question for you.

C: Mm-hm.

G: For example, I say, "This person has a Colt revolver." Are you able to visualize what that looks like?

C: I don't know anything about guns.

G: Yeah. [laughs] I was gonna- I was gonna mention this because I had this conversation once with a person in the classroom, that like, I said, like, "Oh, I don't" - he was talking about guns, and I said, "Oh, I don't really know what a pistol is and what a revolver is." Like, I don't know like, what a rifle looks like, you know. Shit like that. And then he started explaining to me the difference between every single one of them, and I was like, "Oh, this guy is an expert in guns! That's fascinating." And then, suddenly, a guy hears us from the other side of the room, and then he comes over, and then suddenly, every single guy in the class was around me, talking to me about guns. [C laughs] And I was so shocked because apparently this is common knowledge for some people? And I know nothing. But like, they explained to me that they play games, so that's how they know.

C: Ohh, yeah, video games. That makes sense.

G: Yeah. And I'm not a gamer. No matter how much I talk about Red Dead Redemption in this podcast, I am not a gamer, so I don't know jack shit. The only thing I know is that from that conversation I know, and from Supernatural I know that a revolver is the one with the barrel that revolves. And that's the only thing I know.

He's loading the revolver, and the girl is trying to knock down the door. Suddenly, two guys drop from the glass ceiling, and the lady from the door is now finally able to smash it open. As the two men hold Elkins down, the girl enters the room and picks up the Colt. She says, "Nice gun. Won't do you any good, of course." Then, to her pals, she says, "Boys, we're eating in tonight." And then Elkins screams, and we cut to black.

C: Also, Supernatural this episode is really trying to establish that they're hashtag not like other vampires. And I think that the zoom in onto Kate's cross necklace is sort of supposed to be part of that. Like, "Look, she's wearing a cross necklace, and it's not hurting her, 'cause we're special."

G: Also, this episode, I feel like Supernatural really was saying, "We're so dark and gritty. Like, guys, haven't you noticed that we are so dark and gritty?"

C: Oh my god, I know. "We're not like those other loser vampire shows. I know we referenced Buffy in 'Hell House,' but that was to make fun of it, because we're soo cool. These vampires have sex and make sex noises and sexually assault people. Hi." Like, okay, cool, Supernatural. Whatever.

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C: So we cut to a cafe where Sam's laptoppin' it up and Dean's looking through a newspaper. They're looking for cases, and they can't really see anything, and Dean says, "Hey, you know, we could just keep heading east. Specifically, to upstate New York, so you could see Sarah again." And then he calls her a "cool chick" and "smokin'" and whistles.

G: Yeah.

C: Which- is that misogynistic?

G: I don't know. I think he's just trying to hype Sam up, but even then, it still has a bad taste, you know?

C: Yeah. It's kind of weird. Can I have a 0.5?

G: Again, like, I've told you about my feelings about 0.5s.

C: Yeah, okay, fine, no 0.5.

And Sam says, "Maybe someday, but in the meantime, we've got a lot of work to do." Girl, what work. They read about Elkins's murder in Colorado and Dean recognizes the name. And he starts looking through John's journal, and he sees that D. Elkins is a contact there with a Colorado area code. So they head over to his cabin.

G: Sam and Dean go to Elkins's house, and they find a couple of things. Sam finds a ring of salt by the door, and Dean finds Elkins's journal, which he says looks like John's, but this one goes back to the 60's. So given this information, we're like, really sure that this guy is a hunter.

Also. [laughing] We all know that I have a tendency to acquire objects that are Supernatural-related.

C: Oh my god. No, Grey...

G: [laughs] No. Let's recap. What I have is, I have Dean's ring, I have a leather jacket... Actually, that's pretty much it, really. I don't have a journal. I have been looking for years for a journal that looks like John's.

C: Aww.

G: But I can't find any, because one, either I find something and it's so expensive, but also it looks so polished, you know? Yeah, like, it's new and shit, and the whole point of John's journal is it's a battered up piece of writing equipment. Yeah, so, [laughs] if anyone here knows where to buy a replica of John's journal, please do contact me, because I've been looking.

Outside of the house, we see someone. So, suspicious! Back inside, Sam and Dean are looking around with their flashlights. They go to the study and they find the mess in there. And there's bloody scratches on the floor. At first, they were like, "Maybe it's just- you know, he was just clawing his way out, trying to fight when he was being eaten by whatever." Dean takes a pencil and paper, and does the thing that you do when you're tracing a leaf, you know, or a coin, I guess, where he scratches out the scratches, basically, with the pencil. And he finds that the scratches say three letters and six digits. So it's the occasion and combination of a post office box. It's a maildrop, baby! And it's exactly how John does it, or like, has instructed them on how he does it. So the boys recognize it as a hunters' code of some sort.

C: So they go to the post office and find a letter. And when they go back to the Impala, we see that the back of the letter says, "J.W." They're debating whether or not to open it when the worst jumpscare of Supernatural happens. There's a knock on the Impala's window, Dean gasps, and then we look, and it's John. Ew!

G: And he's- he's smiling!

C: He's fucking smiling! Like, I did not forget what you did in "Something Wicked," John.

Okay, like, episode 16 he's like, "Hi, yes, so true, we are weaker together. Bye!" And then like, two episodes later, he's like, "Hey, what if I brought up a site of your biggest childhood trauma and also made you feel really guilty?" And then he just shows up again smiling? And it's like, it's not even because he wants to see his kids. It's because he wants the fucking Colt. Like, fuck off, John.

So yeah. John shows up fucking smiling, and then he gets into the back of the car. Sam asks what he's doing here, and John says, "I read the news about Daniel. I got here as fast as I could."

G: And I was like, "In 'Faith'" -

C: [overlapping] At first when I- I was like, "What about 'Faith,' bitch?"

G: Yeah. Literally, in "Faith," you couldn't be bothered to come when Dean was dying? Like, would you have come if he died, immediately? You fucking asshole.

C: Yeah, but it was because he wanted the Colt, not because he cared about Daniel, so I get it, I suppose.

G: Yeah. But still, the way they talk about it, they were like- he was like, "He was an old friend, and we had a falling out." And like, Sam and Dean are like, "You never told me about him," and he's like, looking wistfully into the distance. I was like-

C: Oh, are you saying secret boyfriend?

G: [laughing] John x Elkin, bro.

C: [laughing] Elkins was probably more of a mentor figure, and I don't think John was practicing whatever the Greeks and Romans were doing, but also, like, headcanon accepted a little.

G: I think Johnzazel is dead and Johnelkin is the way to go. [laughing]

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C: Okay, Sam asks why he didn't come into the house when he saw him and Dean go inside, and he says, "You know why." And then he says, "Because I had to make sure you weren't followed by anyone or anything."

G: He literally- like, I get that they're trying to frame him as a good hunter, but he literally just comes off as a paranoid fuck, right?

C: A bit, yeah.

G: Sam and Dean in the future, they hunt, and it's not like- like, it's a dangerous gig, but it's not super dangerous. [laughs]

C: I mean...

G: I mean, yeah, they die. [both laugh] Like, Dean dies in a hunt. But like, the way the show portrays it, it doesn't need this kind of vigilance, you know? But I guess that's more a factor of like, what we find out in the future. Like, given what we know now, does it warrant this kind of vigilance? I don't really know because I don't have that perspective anymore only knowing season 1. What do you think?

C: I don't know. I- honestly, I think John's full of shit and he just thought it would be awkward to go in, so he made up some bullshit hunting excuse that he didn't go in. [G laughs]

G: Yeah. Yeah, maybe so.

C: Yeah, Sam asks about Elkins, and John says, as you mentioned, that he was a good man, he taught him about hunting, they had a falling out, and he hadn't seen him in years. John opens the letter, and it starts with "If you're reading this, I'm already dead." And then he asks if they saw a Colt revolver anywhere in the cabin. Dean mentions the empty case that he saw, and John says, "Okay, well, they have it, and we gotta find them." Sam says, "Wait, you want us to come with you?" And I didn't know how to read his expression in this scene. Like, was it surprised- was it like, pleasantly surprised?

G: I don't know. I think it was just surprised.

C: Probably so.

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C: So John says that they have to find the gun because it's important. He won't answer any of Sam's questions about why the gun is important, but John does tell them that who killed Elkins was vampires. Dean goes, "Vampires? I thought there was no such thing." And then John says that he thought that they were extinct. Come on, bro. This is like, Supernatural Tumblr's like, number one piece of evidence that John's a bad hunter, and I agree. Like, come on, bro. He literally said that he thought Elkins and everyone else had wiped them out? First off, there are so many other countries in the world. I don't think Elkins was flying to every single continent, killing all the vampires, bro.

G: Also, like, this is evidence that he really does keep Sam and Dean, one, like, separated from other hunters, two, like, separated weirdly from the hunter life? They don't know basic shit like this? It's fascinating that they don't. They rely so much on John, and we kind of feel like, John is, you know, kind of incompetent. It's weird that Sam and Dean feel so ignorant about a lot of things supernatural-related, which makes me think that maybe John - like, this is really their first go at it John going missing and sending them on hunts. It's their first go at like, actual hunting hunting.

C: I think so. They probably- well, Dean probably worked with John in all the past times. Though, well, didn't Sam have a line where he was like, "Dad let you go on hunts alone?" So, I guess he probably did go alone, but usually, John was probably waiting back at the motel or something.

Right, so John starts telling them about vampires. He says, "Most vampire lore is crap. A cross won't repel them, sunlight won't kill them, and neither will a stake to the heart." Why does Supernatural need to have special little vampires? Like, whatever. Just let them be vampires as we know them. He says that they need fresh human blood to survive. John says, "They were once people, so you won't know it's a vampire until it's too late." Kate is so goddamn pale. You can tell.

G: While all of this is happening, it's laid over a scene where the vampires that we saw earlier are hanging around in the side of the road, just drinking, having fun, playing music. They see a car pass by. And the lady, Kate, that we saw earlier, says to one of the guys like, "It's all yours, baby!" And, so in the car that's passing by, a couple are having a bit of a laugh inside, they're just talking, when suddenly, they see a guy passed out in the middle of the road. So they stop, and the guy in the couple goes out to check on the guy on the floor. The girl calls 911 while this is happening. The guy turns the vampire over. And the vamp opens his eyes and reveals his retractable teeth. And the guy gets eaten, basically.

C: Well, he gets grabbed.

G: He gets grabbed, yeah, that's true. He gets kidnapped, and, you know, we assume that one of them get kidnapped.

C: Yeah. And also, the woman is Jenny, but we never learn her name, as we've mentioned.

G: Yeah, it's so weird! Why bring her back, then?

C: It's so weird. I don't get it. I do not know. I guess if they wanted to- I guess, maybe they decided that they were gonna end with a vampire case, so they were like, "Let's just call back to our first vampire case," and that was the only actor from that episode that they could get?

G: They- Kate is a very- like, Kate exacting revenge for Luther's death makes sense, right?

C: Yeah. Jenny does not.

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C: So we get to a motel room. Sam and Dean are sleeping on top of the sheets with their shoes on. Come on, guys. Meanwhile, John is sitting at a table listening to police radio. I do think it's nice that he let Dean and Sam have the beds, since there's only two in the room, but that's the only nice thing I'll say.

G: It's Sam and Dean's motel room!

C: Oh, right, right. John probably just- John didn't want to pay for his own. I understand now. Nevermind. John has never done anything correct in his life.

He wakes up Sam and Dean, and says that he heard a police call where a couple called 911 because they found a body in the street, but when the cops got there, everyone was missing. So, it's the vampires. Sam asks, "How do you know?" And John says, "Just follow me, okay?"

They head out to the crime scene, and Sam's kind of annoyed about how John's the one talking to the cops while Sam and Dean have to hang behind. Dean says, "Don't tell me it's already starting." Sam says, "What's starting?" [G laughs]

So John shows up and give directions on where the vampires are gonna be heading. Sam says, "How can you be so sure?" and Dean says, cautiously, like, "Sam..." But says that he just wants to know that they're going in the right direction. And John just says, "We are." When Sam asks again, John finally says that he found a vampire tooth at the scene.

And then he asks Sam, "Any more questions?" in like, an annoyed fashion, and Sam shuts up. John tells them to start heading out. As he's walking away, he throws over his shoulder, "Hey, Dean, why don't you touch up your car before you get rust? I wouldn't have given you the damn thing if I thought you were going to ruin it." [laughing] And I literally started crying?

G: You told me that before I watched the episode. I was like, "Oh, maybe that scene is more emotional than I remember." [laughs]

C: No!

G: And I watched it, and I was like, "Crystal's- Crystal's going through it, I think." [both laugh]

C: Yeah, no, like I watched Turning Red yesterday, and I like, sobbed through the whole thing, too. I think I'm just being sensitive about parent-child relationships this week.

No, but, okay, the thing is, it's just such a cruel thing to say. Because I think John knows how much pride that Dean takes in the Impala, and we also know after "Something Wicked" - like you said, that Dean sees John as seeing him as a soldier- just a soldier, and not even a good one. So Dean being given the Impala was probably like, a huge moment for him, right? Like, it's probably one of his best memories with John. It's probably a moment when he was like, "Oh, thank god, like, my dad thinks I'm worthy of something. He's giving me this gift." And like, whenever he has it, he can remember that moment of pride. And I think John throwing out a line like that just ruins that memory, right? Because now it's not like, "I'm proud of you, son. Here, have this car. I think you're brave enough to have it."

G: It's like, another responsibility.

C: Yeah, it's a conditional thing now. It's like, "every time you're with this car, you need to be on edge, thinking like, 'Am I taking care of it enough to make my dad still proud of me?'" So it's just eugh. It's just bad! It's just bad.

But you know what, John? Fuck you. Dean picked out the car. It is his car. Fuck you, John.

G: Ohh. Every time I remember that, I literally, like, tear up a little. Did he pick the car? He literally picked the car. It's his car from the get-go. Anyway.

C: Yeah. [laughing] Also, I'm still not a Deangirl! [G laughs] So.

G: I kinda am, though.

C: Yeah. I know you are.

G: I'm going through it as well.

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C: Right, so Dean looks away kind of sadly, and Sam looks at Dean, like a look. Like a "See? John is a dick." face. And that's the end of that scene.

G: Yeah. And we see also that John's car is literally a fucking monster truck. Noo!

C: It's literally the racist truck.

G: Literally it's the racist truck.

C: And the shot of the Impala driving behind John's truck is so funny, because the Impala is so short and flat, and John's truck is so tall, so it just looks like Papa Truck and Baby Truck.

G: So Sam is driving, and while he is, Dean is reading out vampire lore. So we learn that they nest in groups of 8 to 10, and smaller packs are sent out to hunt. And buy hunting, they mean they kidnap people, they bring them back to the nest, and then bleed them out for days or even weeks at a time. He says that that's probably what happened to the 911 couple. And Sam says, "Yeah, that's probably what Dad thinks happened to the 911 couple. Of course, it would be nice if he just told us what he thinks."

C: So true, Sam.

G: And Dean looks at Sam funny and says, "So it is starting." And then he says, like, "We've been looking for Dad for a year," so - time marker! It's been a year. - "and now he's been back for a couple of hours, and there's static already?" Sam's like, "No, no, no! I'm happy he's here, I'm happy he's working with us," and Dean's like, "Good." And Sam continues, he says, "But the way he treats us! Like children!" To which Dean's like, "Oh, god." Like, Dean is so exasperated throughout this entire scene.

C: Yeah.

G: And Sam proceeds. He's like, "He barks orders at us! And expects us to follow without question! He keeps us on a crap 'need-to-know' deal."

C: So true, Sam.

G: And Dean says, like, "He does what he does for a reason." Sam says, like, "What reason?" He's obviously like, very riled up at this point. Dean says like, "There's no margin of error in our job, no time to argue." And throughout this, Sam is like, scoffing and making faces. He says, "Maybe that worked when we were kids, but not now. Not after everything we've been through, Dean." And Sam asks if Dean really is just fine with falling in line and quote, "letting him run the whole show," like, letting John run the whole show.

And this scene, I had to pause. Like, because then, after that, Dean says, "Yeah. If that's what it takes." And it's like- and I was like, "God!" And by "God," I mean like, both the expression "god," but also like, literally like, God in Supernatural. This conversation reminded me of Chuck, and it reminded me of like, Dean in "Unity." Basically when he was like, "I cannot let him control my life anymore." And how like, that is very much not only a reaction to Chuck, but also a reaction to John, right? For him, it's like, "All my life I've never had a choice, I've never had a say." He's not just talking about Chuck there. Like, he's talking about everything. He's talking about John as well.

The fact that he goes from like, "I'll just do whatever it takes, like, I'm just fine with whatever" to that person. It's like, both, like, "Go, Dean!" But also, like, it's so sad!

C: Right, because in "Unity," his "whatever it takes" is shooting Sam.

G: Yeah! Agh, like- I- I find "Unity" so fascinating. We'll get to it when we get to it [together] in the three years.

But like, I find it so fascinating because people like to say it's out of character. But I genuinely do think it's a natural progression of Dean's characters from way, way back here. Like, we get Dean here, and as he progresses, he turns from "I'll just let people control my life" to like, "Fuck that! I'll control my own life" -

C: And everyone else's.

G: "- and I'll do whatever it takes" - Yeah, like, he goes from being controlled to being the controller, and I think that's like, natural progression of his character. And it's amped up to 10. Like, his terribleness is amped up to 10, but it makes sense. Like, it's not out of character. So that's my hot take of the day. Dean "Unity" is not out of character.

C: Yeah. I mean, I guess I cannot speak on that, but I'm gonna agree with you for now.

G: Thank you.

C: And also- I also think that, like, Dean, his experience as one the one who was controlled, but like, specifically the one making a bunch of excuses for John, probably helped him excuse his own behavior when he became the controller as well. So yeah. He's been preparing for this all his life, baby. [G sighs] Yeah.

Anyway, Sam in this scene is great, though. I love Sam so much. He's so good.

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C: So we cut to the vampires' nest, where the vampires are having the world's worst party. There's like, three people there. There's barely any music playing. It's just some guy sitting on a couch and some woman in a cowboy hat, like, doing a half-hearted lap dance in the air at him? Like, that's basically it, right?

So, and the couple from before are tied to a pole. So, a vampire is offering the guy some beer, because he wants the guy to drink enough so that he can taste it in his blood. And Kate shows up too and says that that's gross. The guy vampire offers the beer to Jenny, and then sort of forces it down her throat, but then she spits it back into his face. He is about to hit her for this, but Kate says, "Beaux, wait for Luther." And then the door opens, and some guy walks in, and he's like - do you think that he's like, deliberately a hot vampire?

G: I was thinking he looks like someone from Twilight.

C: Exactly!

G: Like, I don't know Twilight enough to know who he looks like, but he looks like a guy from Twilight.

C: Yeah, like, just some platonic ideal of "guy from Twilight."

Right, so this is Luther, and I'd say out of all the vampires, he's the one who looks the most "human" in terms of like, his skin looks the least pasty, and also, I think his voice - he's sort of - a lot of the vampire actors are putting on a bit of a hissy voice, but he's sort of just talking normally.

G: Yeah.

C: So yeah, we know that he's supposed to be a big deal because he's here to be a hot, normal guy vampire.

G: Yeah, and also he has the personality of like, uptight, you know, like, uptight person. So we know that he is the boss.

C: He comes in, and Kate throws herself at him, and they start making out. He says that he missed her too. She presents Kate and - or, sorry, Jenny - and her boyfriend to him as presents. Luther says that Jenny looks interesting, but her boyfriend doesn't. So he tells them to take the boyfriend away, and he says, "The vampires can go and treat themselves," so they start eating the guy. And he's screaming and stuff. Eugh, yeah.

Kate takes Luther away further and shows him the stuff that they confiscated from Elkins. Luther is concerned about this, because he says that Kate shouldn't have killed Elkins because it'll bring other hunters here. Kate says that she did it for him, because he killed Luther's family and Luther says, "Revenge isn't worth much if you end up dead."

G: Yeah! Someone should tell this to the Winchesters.

C: Exactly. Exactly. Like, which an important line in Supernatural, I'd think, but maybe not.

And then he notices the Colt, and he says, "Oh, I've seen this before. This is no ordinary gun."

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G: We're back in the car, and Dean is talking to John through the phone. He hangs up, and then he tells Sam to pull up to the next exit, and Sam goes, "Why?" And he is clenching, you know, he is- he is holding tight to the steering wheel. He is obviously mad. Dean says, "Because he caught the vampires' trail," and Sam says, "How?"

C: Agh, I love him.

G: And Dean says, "He didn't say." Sam, like I said, obviously very pissed at this point, floors the gas. And he maneuvers it so that he stops in front of John and forces John to stop his monster truck. As they stop, Sam steps out of the car. And as John approaches him, Sam says, "We need to talk. About everything. Where are we going? What's the deal with the gun?" And Dean [laughs], looking like the short king- [C laughs] the shortest king, honestly.

C: Looking 4'9".

G: He tries to get in between Sam and John, who are like, basically squaring up with each other. But most of them are ignoring him, which, you know. I'm sure we don't need to unpack that. [laughs]

C: Well, they're not necessarily ignoring him. 'Cause Dean's trying to break the fight up, and John says, "Your brother's right."

G: Yeah. He acknowledges Dean by saying, like, "Your brother's right," but the whole time, he's staring down at Sam.

C: Yeah, they're not looking at him.

G: Yeah, they're not looking at him.

Sam continues on saying that, like, "Last time we were together, you said we are a danger to you. Now, you need our help, so obviously something big is going on. And we wanna know what." And John says, "Get back in the car." And Sam says, "No." John says, "I said, get back in the damn car." And Sam says, [overlapping] "Yeah. And I said no." Go Sam!!

C: I will suck his dick. [G laughs] I will suck his dick. [laughing] I wrote down here, "I will suck his dick."

Also, at this point, I think I literally had to pause the episode because I was literally like, screaming and cheering and pumping my arms up and down and like, jumping up and down in my seat. I love Sam so much.

G: Oh, you were jumping up and down?

C: Yeah.

G: I was sobbing. I was sobbing. I was crying so hard.

C: Aww.

G: It really got to me because seeing- I've said this before, but every time I see Sam angry- how do you say it? Like, self-wish-fulfillment? [laughs] Like-

C: Right.

G: I feel like that's kind of a part of what is going on with Sam's characterization. Like, you're supposed to be like, "I wish I can talk to my parents like that," like, you know.

C: Yeah. Right.

G: So seeing Sam do it is like, very emotional for me.

So after Sam says, "Yeah, and I said no," Dean interjects, saying that Sam made his point, and they're all tired, they can talk about this later. Sam recedes.

C: Well, he doesn't recede. Dean literally like, pushes him back towards the car.

G: Yeah, I think so. I don't actually remember. But yeah, I think you're right. As Sam goes back to the car, he mumbles to himself, "This is why I left in the first place."

C: Go Sam!

G: John hears him. John hears him, and goes, "What'd you say? What did you say?" And Sam goes, "Oh, you heard me," and they're back to their screaming match. John starts walking up, and-

C: I will suck Sam's dick so much. [G laughs]

G: John starts walking up and pointing at Sam and shit, and he says, "You left. Your brother and me? We needed you. But you walked away. You walked away!"

And you can hear Dean in the background. [laughing] You can literally- like, at this point, Dean is not in frame anymore, but like, he's basically in the background going, "It's not the vibe. Stop!" [both laughing]

Despite Dean's pleas, Sam is full on shouting now. He shouts to John's face. Like, you can- you can see the cold air coming out of his mouth.

C:Yeah, you can like see the spit, like, landing on John's face.

G: Yeah. You know- you know that, like, thing that K-pops stans say? Where they're like, "The rent was do when this performance was happening"? Like, the rent was due the day that they filmed this scene.

C: The rent was what?

G: Like, the landlord to Jared was like, "I need the money today," and Jared was like, "I will provide." [both laugh] You don't know that joke?

C: I don't.

G: The rent was due.

C: That's pretty good.

This literally isn't Jared, though. This is only Sam. I don't know who Jared is.

G: Sam shouts to John's face, "You're the one who closed the door. Not me!"

C: "You're the one who said don't come back, Dad. You were just pissed off that you couldn't control me anymore!" Go Sam!!

G: Go Sam. Go Sam. I was crying, though, but like, go Sam.

C: And I was screaming and cheering and also sucking his dick.

G: Multi-tasking.

Dean at this point physically interjects, and he tells them both to stop, then looks towards at John, and says, "That means you, too."

C: Yeah. Which I think is Dean's very first moment of sort of talking back to John that we see, right?

G: Yeah. And then something I thought about in this scene was like- Because when Dean was younger, like, Sam was more of a responsibility than a person. I feel like- it's kind of- it kind of feels like that sometimes, the way that now that Sam exists as a person for him, because Sam is older, and John is not around to tell him to take care of Sam all the time... Do you think this is the first time that Dean really took Sam's side? Because when they talk about Stanford fight, they mention that Dean took John's side. So like, do you think this is the first time he actually took Sam's side, like, even just a little bit? And if so, like I wonder what that must feel like for Sam.

C: I feel like, yeah, if you're growing up with John, and like, both of you are under his hand, and you don't really get to make any long-term friends at school because you're always moving around, like, you want desperately for your big brother to be on your side. And he is when John's not around, but he's not when John is around. And like, Sam's earlier like, "Ugh, I told you so" look after John insults the way Dean's been keeping the Impala, like, Sam just wants- like, for a time when John's being a dick, he just wants to look at Dean and roll his eyes and for Dean to roll his eyes back, you know? Like, he just wants someone who also gets it. So I feel like, this- yeah, does have to feel a little bit good. But also, it might feel like too little, too late to Sam?

G: Like, John already kicked him out before. Yeah.

C: Yeah, like, yeah, he was literally told to never come back. So yeah. I mean, no wonder he didn't pick up Dean's calls in Stanford if John kicked him out and Dean said nothing.

G: So the camera stays on Dean as both John and Sam move to their respective cars. And then, when that is over, Dean goes, "Terrific." And then that ends the scene.

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C: So we're back to the vampires again, and Kate and Luther are fucking, basically. Like, Luther is already shirtless they're making all these sounds at each other, and they're taking off Kate's shirt. It's very interesting the way that they use the vampires' sexuality in this episode. Like, okay, first we had the makeout scene between Kate and Luther, and the thing is, it is not at all more explicit than, say, the Samsarah makeout scene, but because of the camera work, because of the dinginess in the lighting and the lack of background music, like, you hear the mouth sounds instead of like, beautiful floaty music, and you're supposed to be like, grossed out about like, the rawness of it, right?

G: Yeah, yeah.

C: And then, here too, like, the sex scene, you're supposed to be really grossed out by it, but it's not like, fundamentally really different from any other sex scene we see in Supernatural, but just the lack of background music and the use of-

G: They're not singing, "take me back to paradise / fill me up with your love."

C: Yeah, exactly. [laughs] Exactly. It's like, this sex is gross maybe because it's more realistic I guess, right, and also, I guess, well- okay, I guess it's about how, after the Twilight renaissance and such, like vampires have become sexy, and have also become sort of a metaphor for predatory sexuality.

G: Is this before or after Twilight?

C: Uhh... oh, shit! When was Twilight?

G: I don't know.

C: Oh my god, was this before Twilight? Let me look. Oh, okay, Twilight was written in 2005. So this was probably like, during like, during like, the Twilight hype. But they might have written this episode before the Twilight hype. Yeah, I can't tell. I'm not sure.

G: Damn.

C: Though I'm sure there were other things that made vampires like, a sexuality metaphor that led to Twilight. But yeah.

G: You're sure. [laughs]

C: It's not like- I'm sure that Twilight was not the first time vampires were sexy in all of literature. Like, there's Carmilla.

G: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

C: I guess, my point here, basically, is that later this is homophobic. The way that they establish so early that like, vampires are sexual and it's disgusting. Like, it's all like, leading up to the first lesbian kiss in Supernatural which is like, sexual assault, that is, like, literally predatory and literally forcing like, dirty blood inside of you, which also like, feels uncomfortably like, serophobic in terms of like, AIDS and stuff too. So yeah, anyway that's my point. We'll get to that when it happens.

Yeah, so they're getting it on, and then Luther turns to Kate- or sorry, I keep getting Kate and Jenny's names mixed up. Okay, Luther turns to Jenny, and says, "You like to watch? Me too." And then he asks Kate, "Are you ready, baby?" Jenny is asking if they're gonna kill her and Kate says, "I'm going to take you so high you're never going to come down." So in this- this is like, a very erotic sequence where Luther cuts Kate's arm with his knife, and she sucks the blood out of her arm, and then she goes to Jenny, and well, sexually assaults her by kissing her and forcing blood into her mouth as Luther watches. And he says, "Welcome home, baby." So let's- let's unpack this.

Oh, wait, and also. We can see Luther's tattoo while he's shirtless, and it's in kanji, right? But I tried to like, Google Translate it, and I didn't end up with any actual words, but I guess it reads like, "neyora yote," but I don't know what that means. It might just be nonsense, the way most Japanese tattoos on white people are.

G: - tattoos are, yeah.

C: Okay, so- [laughs] Back to this. The fact that Luther has to say, like, "You like to watch? So do I." before this. So like, it's a lesbian kiss, right, but they have to put two disclaimers on it. Disclaimer one is, "this is an evil vampire doing evil things to get blood into Jenny's mouth." And the second thing is, "and also it's just to sexually titillate a straight man, so don't worry, no one here is gay, even a little bit."

Oh, I think I also remember seeing a Tumblr post that like, Kate in this episode-

G: About her nails?

C: Yeah, exactly.

C: She has one hand with a normal nails and one hand with like, French tips, and every time she's kissing Jenny, like, it's the hand with the French tips that's in shot just to make the same even more straight and homophobic.

G: It's a bad scene to watch.

C: Right. Like it didn't have to be a kiss. It so obviously didn't have to be a kiss, but.

Yeah, um, okay, but, okay- this isn't like, about this specifically, but it's such a deliberate action to turn someone into a vampire. Like, it's gotta be awkward around the nest for a bit afterwards, right? Like how do you go from this to like, Jenny becoming a part of the nest like, in the next scene that we see her?

Right it's like, "You killed my boyfriend and sexually assaulted me, but I guess I'm on your side now, guys!" Like, what?

G: I- like, the only assumption you can make is that it also changes her mentality, like does something to her mentally. And then we come to the part where it's like, "So being a vampire means you're automatically evil?"

C: Mm. But not if you're Benny.

G: Not if you're Benny. Because that's the direction your mind goes to, right? Like, "when she became a vampire, she automatically became evil because of the vampire blood."

C: Right.

G: "And that's why she's part of the pack."

C: But that's bad.

G: But we know from future seasons, that's not true. And also, it's just fundamentally like, "Uh, no!"

C: Bad take. It's fundamentally a bad take.

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C: So it's the next day, or- sorry, no, Luther is opening the barn door and getting another vampire to come in. Meanwhile, Dean, John, and Sam are hiding behind some trees, scoping out the nest. And we get that the vampires aren't afraid of the sun, but direct sunlight does hurt. However, the only way to kill a vampire is with beheading. John also says that they sleep during the day, but they could still wake up. Dean says, "So I guess walking right in is not our best option," and John says, "Actually that's the plan." You're not a good hunter, John.

We get a scene of Sam and Dean getting weapons from the Impala's trunk, [G starts laughing] while John-

G: Fucking automatic-

C: John opens his fucking racist truck, and there's like, this automatic compartment that slides out from the truck. You drama queen.

G: So you agree that it's funny, right? Like, it is funny right.

C: Yeah. It is funny.

G: I was dying laughing. I was- I was so fucking amused by this, and I was like, "Is my happiness just - does it have such a low barrier that I find this so funny?" But like, "Yeah, it is funny."

C: Yeah. Like, okay, we get it. John's soo cool.

G: The way John is standing beside it, too, is like, "Okay." Like, he's like, he's like, brooding, right? [C laughs] He's standing around like, "Mmm," and the car opens like automatically, and I was like, "My god."

C: [laughing] Yeah, no, like John after Mary's death like, broodlingly building together this cool- this cool, gadgety hidden compartment in his trunk. Like, okay, we get it, John.

Dean tells John that they've got an extra machete if he needs one, which is obviously another in for the director to make John seem cool. Because he pulls out like, this giant machete out of a leather holder from his fancy little gadget trunk.

G: And he was like, "No, I think I'm good." And I was like, "Fucking John."

C: Like, come on, John. Do you think John also thinks of himself as an action hero?

G: God. I fucking bet.

C: He probably thinks of himself as John Wick. [G laughs]

G: He cannot ride a horse. This is my- this is my truth is that John Winchester cannot ride a horse.

C: Oh yeah, I think any horse would sense John's shitty energy, and like, throw him off their back.

After that, John says, "So, you boys really want to know about this Colt?" Which, I got a little emo about, that he was finally telling them something. I was like, "Oh, maybe Sam got through to him a bit!" But I think it's just because they need to know the information now so that they work harder to get the gun, but, you know, maybe. Maybe. I hate John, but I am desperately grasping at any chance that he may change, because I think Sam deserves that before John dies. But I also know in like, three episodes, John tells Dean to kill Sam, so I'm not banking on any hope.

So, um, yeah. And Sam says in response to the question, "Yes, sir," which is like, head in my hands. Head in my hands. Because I feel like, for Sam, it's like, he feels like, "Oh, like, maybe John's meeting me halfway. I'll meet him halfway too by like, showing him the respect that he demands of me." And kids shouldn't have to meet their parents halfway, but for Sam, it has to feel like something, that John seems to be taking Sam's words to heart, right? Because, like I- I think I mentioned in the "Bugs" episode, I always felt like the reason that Sam was always the one who is fighting John is because he felt that eventually, he'd be able to convince John to change. And this is a moment when Sam's like, "Maybe I convinced John to change." Ugh. This is the thing I'm sensitive about! Okay.

So John talks about the Colt, and we get like, some little flashbacks. So he says that back in 1835, the night that the Alamo happened, some guy named Samuel Colt made "a special gun for a hunter. A man like us, only on horseback." Alright. And apparently he made 13 bullets, but 6 of the bullets got used already. The gun can apparently kill anything. During the scenes where they're making the gun, like, this guy's like, melting a spoon over a fire, and I was like, "Are you doing heroin, bro?"

G: Maybe. [both laugh]

C: Dean says, "Kill anything, like, supernatural anything?" And Sam says, realizing, "Like the demon." And John says, "Yeah, like the demon." So, if they find the gun, they may be able to destroy it.

G: So Sam, Dean, and John go inside the barn. The vampires are all sleeping, and the three Winchesters - Dean almost wakes someone up, and John sneaks into the room where the main vampire couple is. And, you know, all of this is happening simultaneously. It's a blast. And then Sam finds the lady that has been fed blood. I don't even say "Jenny" anywhere in my notes, because I was like, "It's just a lady!" [both laugh] Literally, it's just a lady! He starts untying her, and when he does, she wakes up and starts screaming, but screaming in a way that suggests she is not human anymore.

C: But before that happens, Dean sees that there's like a locked area where there are a bunch of people tied up who are being bled to feed the vampires, and he starts trying to break the lock.

G: Yeah. Where does that plotline lead?

C: During the big action scene near the end, when they're clearing out the nest-

G: He let them out?

C: Yeah. Dean like, comes over and he's like, "I told you guys I would come back," and he lets them all out, which was kind of nice.

G: Yeah. I guess because we didn't see the people, I was like-

C: Yeah, we didn't see any of their faces, so it's not really a big thing. But yeah, I don't know, yeah, I thought it was sweet. [laughs]

G: But, also, that, I guess it's a fucking parallel to the last vampire episode- I don't fucking know. I don't fucking care. I don't care! [both laugh]

C: The finale is not real.

G: So that happens, and Jenny screams, and then everybody - all the vampires - wake up because of the scream. So John is stuck in the room with the main vampire couple. He gets knocked out, and then he screams at Sam and Dean to leave. He also throws a bottle at the window of the barn, so it breaks, and sunlight starts streaming into the room, and the couple is shirtless so it's like, they're gonna get burned. So that's how we assume he got out, because the two were a bit vulnerable because of the sun. So Sam and Dean run, and they wait for John, who, for a while, we think was not gonna arrive, but he eventually arrives. Boo!

C: Yeah, Dean is yelling, like, "Dad? Dad?!" And I think I wrote down, "It's me boys, I'm the Crystal BABpod, speaking to you inside your brain. Listen to me boys. Leave John, we don't need him!" [both laugh]

G: Literally, we don't need him.

And then John follows them, right? He ends up where they are. And then he says that the vampires won't attack until night, and once they catch your scent, it's for life. Dean asked what they should do in the meantime, and John says, "You go to a funeral home, that's what."

C: [laughing] You dramatic bitch.

G: This is why Sam hates you, John. Like, just say what you mean! Just be straight up, bro! Just be yourself! [C laughs]

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C: So we cut to the motel room, where Sam and John are. And they both look really awkward, like they hate being stuck in a room alone. Sam's like, "It shouldn't be taking this long. I should go help." Like, clearly just trying to get out of here. But John says, "Dean's got it."

Okay, and then we get a conversation which made me like, a John apologist for half a second before I came back to my senses. But, okay, basically John says, "Sammy." And Sam says, "Yeah." And John says, "I don't think I ever told you this-" You don't tell Sam a lot of things, John. "I don't think I ever told you this, but the day you were born, do you know what I did?" And he says, "I put 100 bucks into a savings account for you. I did the same thing for your brother. It was a college fund. And every month, I put in another hundred dollars, until..." Do you think the "until" was until Mary died, or-?

G: Yeah.

C: Yeah, okay. So, no, as soon as Mary died, he was like, "Yoink! Like, nevermind." Yeah, okay.

G: "This bitch is not going to college, bro!"

C: [laughing] Yeah.

G: He literally said that. He- I was quoting him when I said that.

C: He literally said that. And then he flung- yeah, he flung Sam across the room into a wastebasket while saying that.

So he says, "Anyway, my point is, Sam, this is never the life that I wanted for you." Well, duh, you didn't even know that this was a life available so him until "dot dot dot." Sam says, "Then why'd you get so mad when I left?" And John says, "You gotta understand something. After your mother passed, all I saw was evil everywhere. All I cared about was keeping you boys alive. I wanted you prepared, ready. Except somewhere along the line, I... I stopped being your father, and I became your... your drill sergeant." I'm glad that you're aware. Now, do something about it, bitch?.

G: A lot of people, when they talk about how "John is a good father, actually," this is the scene that they quote. Or like, the fact that he sacrifices his life for Dean. So those two. Like, he apologizes, so that's a sign of being good, and he sacrifices his life, so that's a sign that he was a good dad.

C: Like, first off, no. Second off, in three episodes, he tells Dean to kill Sam!

G: That's true, but also, like, I just want to put it forward here that sometimes, just because you apologize doesn't mean you are automatically good.

C: Yeah.

G: Like, it was years of neglect and it was years of Sam thinking that his father didn't want him, and it was-

C: Yeah. He kicked him out.

G: Sam and Dean don't need to forgive John for these things, and they do, but like, I don't, you know. Like, I don't forgive John. So, uh, I don't know. Like, again, like, I, you know, I was the person who said in "Bugs" that I understand John apologists, etc, etc. And like, in a way, I still do. Through this rewatch, I'm less able to understand John apologists, but I'm just putting the thought out there that like, that's my take on that.

C: I agree fully.

'Cause he says afterwards, "When he said that you wanted to go away to school, my only thought was that you were going to be alone, vulnerable." So, okay, if you didn't want Sam to be alone and vulnerable when he went away to school, you do not kick him out!

G: Yeah! Why kick him out? Like, be there, be supportive, be there for him.

C: Yeah. Right. And we find out in "Bugs" that, apparently, when he was worried about Sam, he would like, drive by Stanford and fucking spy on him, like a creep. That is not the way to go when you're afraid that your son is going to be alone and vulnerable at college. Like, you don't kick him out, and you try to maintain a relationship with him, and you like, call him to check in! He says, "It just never occurred to me what you wanted. I just couldn't accept the fact that you and me, we're just different."

And Sam laughs. And he says, "We're not different. Not anymore. With what happened to Mom and Jess? We probably have a lot more in common than just about anyone." What are your thoughts on this line?

G: [sighs] People like to say that Sam is like John. [laughs] I hear that a lot, especially in the Dean circles, surprisingly.

C: Huh.

G: [laughing] You know that post that like, "If you have a Sam or Cas profile picture, I do not care about anything that you have to say about Dean"? Like, that's kind of how I feel about Deangirls talking about Sam. [C laughs]

C: [laughing still] No, literally!!

This isn't about you, Ellie! We love you, Ellie!

G: [laughing] Ellie, we love you.

But like, if you have a Dean PFP, shut the fuck up about Sam. [C laughs]

And I get that, like, at the beginning of Supernatural, like-

C: Yeah, they draw clear parallels between Sam seeking revenge after Jess's death and John seeking revenge after Mary's death, but the different thing is that Sam's not a fucking dick about it.

Yeah, but remember when earlier, you said that no wonder that Sam is so angry at John for being not straight up, bro, when he's explaining hunt things. I was thinking about all the times that we called Sam a dramatic bitch for drawing out a realization about a hunt over several questions. But that's not the same thing. Like, I get if Sam got a little bit of drama from the way that John talks, but overall, Sam's a little loreboy who explains things, so they're not the same.

John says, "I guess you're right, son," and then Sam says, "Hey, Dad? Whatever happened to that college fund?" And John says, "Spent it on ammo."

G: Boooo.

C: And then he and Sam start laughing? Boooo.

G: The way Sam laughs, too, I was like, "This is not even Sam." [laughs] You know how I feel about Sam laughing.

C: Yeah! Yeah, you know, most of the time Sam laughs, it's Sam. This time, yeah, it wasn't.

Isn't it just so representative of John's entire thing that he blew Sam and Dean's college money on buying ammo? Like, if I needed a one sentence summary of John Winchester, like, it would be that.

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C: Yeah, so Dean finally shows up, and he got a bottle of blood from the funeral home. He hands it to John, and John says, "You know what to do."

G: "You know what to do." And apparently, what to do is, with the next scene, we see Dean leaning over a car hood.

C: Yeah. Flat ass popped.

G: Yeah. He is meant to be a pretty boy in this scene.

C: Yeah.

G: And by "meant to be," I mean like not for us, but for Kate, who comes in and asks if Dean is having car trouble. She says, you know, "I can give you a lift. Get you back to my place." Shit like that. And Dean turns to her and says, "I'll pass. I usually draw the line at necrophilia." And the woman hits him, and he falls to the ground. So [sighs] she lifts him up by grabbing his cheeks. And Dean, at this point, is still cracking jokes. He's saying that like, "Oh, I don't get this friendly until the second date." You know Dean.

C: Yeah.

G: She says, "You know, we could still have some fun. Like, I like, making new friends." And then she kisses Dean.

C: [flatly] Yay, more sexual assault.

G: Yeah. Yeah, it's not fun to watch!

And, okay, after she pulls away, he says, "I don't normally stay with a girl for that long. Definitely not eternity." And suddenly, Kate and the vampire that is standing behind her gets shot with some... arrows? darts? I don't know what these are called. They're like little small darts from the weird shooter things. [laughs] I don't fucking know-

C: Um, a bow and arrow?

G: Yeah, but, like, the bow is weird. What do you call that kind of bow?

C: I think it is just a bow, right? It's just like, modern day bows often look pretty high-tech.

A crossbow?

G: Yeah, yeah. I think it's called a crossbow.

C: Wait, wait, wait, wait. Didn't, in "Bugs," didn't Sam say-

G: Yeah. Sam said he- yeah.

C: -he wanted to learn soccer instead of crossbow hunting? And now he and John are crossbow hunting together? Oh, head in my hands.

Also like, we're assuming that Sam and John have been like, waiting this whole time, right? So, like, they let Dean be sexually assaulted before shooting?

G: Yeah.

C: Right.

G: I don't... yeah. And also, the fact that John was like, "You know what to do," implying that this is something that they usually do.

C: Yeah! Yeah, like go be a pretty boy and get sexually assaulted by vampires so we can shoot them? Like, come on.

G: Sam and John come out of the trees. Hashtag coming out. [both laugh]

C: Right, John says, "You know, me and Danny Elkins.... we went way back, and... We knew each other reaal well, if you know what I mean." [both laugh]

G: John tells the vampire that the arrow is soaked in dead man's blood, which is like poison to the vampires. Kate collapses, and as Sam and Dean take her away, John slices the head of the remaining guy. And then we cut to black.

C: I think it probably does matter that the remaining guy is the only Black vampire, and he's the first one who's killed and treated as completely disposable.

G: Oh, is the other- is one of the vampires Filipino?

C: I don't know. You could look up the actors. Oh, wait, but you can't, because if you go on the IMDB page, you'll see the score.

G: Oh, yeah!

C: So we can't.

G: Anyway, so we can't look it up. But like, I thought, one of the actors was Filipino. The one who played dead? But also, like, "Filipino traits" is such a nebulous thing. Like, who- what even do Filipinos even look like? I have no fucking idea. We have blood from everywhere.

C: That makes sense for a vampire. [G laughs]

G: Grey vampire confirmed. [laughs]

C: Yeah!

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C: Sam, Dean, and John, are crouched around a campfire. And he's giving them stuff to throw on the fire which smells strongly so that it'll block all their scent from the vampires. You know like, in most Supernatural episodes, I point out that the exposition feels very forced? I feel like they did a good job with exposition in this episode because, like, well, I mean they created a situation where Sam and Dean don't know about vampires, so they would need to be explained to, and second, the fact that most of the exposition comes in the second half of the episode also serves as a good, like, like, character nod? "Oh, look, maybe John is changing. Maybe he is explaining some things." Because, earlier, he probably would have been like, "Just put this on the fire" and then not say anything else, you know?

So he's saying that- he says, "Vampires mate for life," so Luther is definitely going to come after them, and that Kate means more to him than the gun. Okay, what does "vampires mate for life" mean? Like, you're not allowed to have breakups? [laughs]

G: I have no fucking idea.

C: 'Cause like, humans don't mate for life. Like, they get divorced.

G: Also, "for life" is eternity.

C: Yeah, exactly. Like, you can't break up? Like, what if your vampire partner like, starts watching Supernatural? Like, you can't break up with them? [both laugh]

So he's saying that they don't have a lot of time, and he tells Sam and Dean to get out of here. Dean says, "You can't take care of all of them yourself." But John says, "I'll have Kate and the Colt." Well, he says "her"; I don't think he ever uses her name, but they probably don't know her name, yeah. But Sam says, "After, we're gonna meet up, right? Use the gun together, right?" John doesn't reply, and Sam realizes "Oh, you're leaving again. You still want to go after the demon alone." And he says, "You know, I don't get you. You can't treat us like this."

G: Immediately- the fact that he says, "I don't get you" immediately after they had that bonding moment, like, "We get each other!" And now it's back to "I don't get you."

C: Yeah, exactly, "We're like each other." Yeah, no, exactly, right. So like, that one conversation cannot fix a lifetime of neglect, basically. Like, Sam got a moment where he felt close to John but now it's back to this shit.

Yeah, and Sam says, "Like children." John says, "You are my children. I'm trying to keep you safe." And then! [claps] And then!

G: And then!

C: And then!! [more clapping] Dean says, "Dad, all due respect, but, uh, that's a bunch of crap." Go Dean! Go Dean! Go Dean! Go Dean!

G: Yes!!! Dean... I will suck your dick. [laughs]

C: This was the moment when I- yeah, when I sent to you, "I'll even suck Dean's dick." I will not, because again, I am Asian, but for a second, I forgot. [laughs]

G: [laughing] I thought you forgot that you were Asian.

C: [laughing] Not that I was Asian, I forgot about Dean's Asian fetish. [G laughs]

G: The fact that he calls John out. Like, "You sent us on hunts, like, that's not keeping us safe." Like, that's what we've been saying! That's literally what we've been saying!

C: I know!

G: And Dean is aware. Like, he knows that John is being a hypocrite. And the fact that now he's standing up for himself, it's like, "Yes, go boy!" After, what? 27 years? My god.

C: Yeah. Oh, right, it's been a year! He's 27, dude! Aww.

G: He's literally 27, dude!

C: Aw, and Sam's probably 23. Agh. Babies.

Okay, but yeah.

G: Time flies when you're doing a podcast called Busty Asian Beauties. [C laughs]

C: Yeah, that's the saying. So, yeah. Dean calls John out by saying, like, "You know what Sammy and I have been hunting. Hell, you sent us on a few hunting trips yourself." And the fact that this happens, like, so soon after "Something Wicked"? Like, go Dean! Go Dean! [G makes pained sounds]

G: Ah, go Dean!

C: So he says, "You can't be that worried about keeping us safe." Agh, so good. And John says, "It's not the same thing." And Dean asks, "Then, what is it?" John says, like, "This demon is a bad son of a bitch. I can't make the same moves if I'm worried about keeping you safe." Dean says, "You mean you can't be as reckless." And John says, "Look. I don't expect to make it out of this fight in one piece. Your mother's death, it almost killed me. I can't watch my children die too. I won't." Did this remind you of Sam's last episode "the pain that I felt, I can never feel that again"?

G: Actually, it did not. Only now that you pointed it out I'm like, "Yeah, that makes sense," but I mean like, it's generic enough to say that "I won't let my kids die" that it doesn't feel as connected to me.

C: Yeah. That's true. And then Dean says, and like, his voice is kind of breaking? He's like, "What happens if you die? Dad, what happens if you die, and we could have done something about it?" Ahhh, he's just a little boy! [laughs] He's just a little birthday boy!

G: Because knowing what we know of Dean, that he just wants his family together... I can't help but wonder, especially later on, right, John says, "I'm not expecting to make it out of here in one piece."

C: Right, I feel like, he wants to go with John and Sam like, partly so that they all make it out alive, but I think also because if they die, he wants them to die together. Like, I feel like that Dean's fucked up enough to be of that mindset.

He says, "I think maybe Sammy's right about this one. We should do this-" Oh, he says, "You know I've been thinking... I think maybe Sammy's right about this one. We should do this together." Which, the "you know I've thinking," I think, is quite good because it shows a lot of the behind the scenes Dean stuff that led up to this moment of him standing up to John. Like, this whole episode when he was like, telling Sam to cool it, he was still internally doubting. But I guess Sam being like, righteously angry helped him get to this point. Go, Sam.

And then Dean says, "We're stronger as a family, Dad. We just are. You know it." Which is a nice line, but like, how do you get there from "Shadow"?

G: I don't know. Do you think it's true, though?

C: I guess they probably used to hunt together, right? So maybe he's drawing on that. But I don't know. Do you think he's just making it up so that he can go with John? I don't know. It just- I didn't really feel that there was enough lead up to me believing that line.

G: It's just, I don't believe it whichever way. I don't believe Dean when he said like, "John is weaker with us," and I don't believe really this time when he said that they're stronger together. Because like, I just haven't seen enough evidence of it, I guess, of whatever the two is trying to imply. So it's like, who knows?

C: Who knows? Well we won't find out, probably. Or actually, well, what we'll find out is they're weaker together 'cause Sam didn't even shoot John as Johnazazel. [laughing] Hashtag Samcrit. [G laughs]

John in response to the little birthday boy says, "We're running out of time. You do your job, and you get out of the area. That's an order." Die. Die, John.

G: The fact that he reverts immediately back to "that's an order" so fast.

C: Right, yeah, no, but right after the "I wasn't your father, I was a drill sergeant. Sorry." And then like, just goes right back to being a drill sergeant. Like, okay. And I get that he's trying to keep them safe, and he's like, "in the past they listened to me before when I was like, shitty and drill sergeant-y to them," but like, come on, dude. Come on.

G: Sorry to bring up Succession, but it you reminded me of that like, one line that Roman says. Like, Logan asks him like, "What can you bring to the table?"

C: Oh, yeah.

G: And Roman says, like, "I don't know. Fucking... love?" And it's like, sometimes like, I wonder like, "Can't you just bring love to this table, John?" Like, can't you be like, "I'm asking you, not as an order, but like, as your father. As a request from father to sons"? But no. It doesn't happen. He is still a drill sergeant, even though he expressed remorse for turning out this way. It doesn't matter. He's still the same.

C: Yeah. He is aware of exactly how bad he is and he's decided that, like-

G: It's worth it.

C: - the ends justify the means. Ugh.

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C: So there is a plan happening. Or no, there's not a plan happening because later John says, "You disobeyed my orders." Okay, well, John has a plan. Cut this all out. [laughing] Okay, so we're to the vampire nest where Luther is waiting. And the other vampires report back to him that they killed Frank and took Kate. They hear a car, and Luther smells Kate's scent in that truck. It's John's racist truck. John's driving with Kate in the front. He sees the vampires tailing him. Meanwhile, at the vampire nest Dean shows up, he scares the vampire by saying "Boo," and beheads him. And then, yeah, he gets to the people locked in, and he says, "I told you I'd come back," and he lets them out, which I thought was cute. And yeah, and I think it's nice that Dean how's this job. I don't know, because I feel like Sam usually gets the job of getting civilians out, so yeah, at least Dean gets his turn, and Sam can be like, a little action hero boy.

So Luther has blocked off John's racist truck, and tells John to get out. They talk. Dean and Sam are apparently cleaning out Luther's nest, and Kate is in the truck. When Luther asks where Kate is, John says, "Come here, sweetheart" and then pulls her out. Which is like, come on, bro.

G: She's all tied up too, so it's like, not a good visual.

C: It's not. Um, yeah, but I'm not gonna make a John misogyny tally because he's only here for like, two more episodes. [laughs]

Yeah, he holds a knife to Kate's throat. Kate tells Luther about the dead man's blood, so John says, "I'll trade you. Your girl for the Colt," basically. So Luther agrees to the trade, and John has him put the Colt down, asks him to back up. John holds on to Kate as he leans down to pick up the gun. But then Luther says, "It's a nice move. You almost made it." And then Kate knocks John out.

There's a fight scene. John's like, car gets super smashed when Luther like, punches him into it. But then one of the vampires is shot by an arrow, and Sam and Dean were hiding in the trees the whole time, even though they were told to stay back. And they go around shooting people. And then Sam tries to get Luther, but then Luther grabs Sam's throat. And he tells Dean like, "Don't shoot me."

G: "I'm gonna break his neck."

C: Yup. Poor Sam. Dean drops the machete. And then Luther says, "You people. Why can't you leave us alone? We have as much right to live as you do." Which is another line spoken by Luther in this episode, that I think Supernatural should take to heart. But, okay, because this is immediately followed by John saying, "I don't think so," and then shooting Luther, right?

G: [laughs] Yeah.

C: It's a really weird moment because in any other show, I think we would- we're supposed to take that line at face value, but in this show, I think, with John's response like, they expected the audience to go like, "Haha, no you don't. What a stupid thing to say, you monster," you know?

G: Also like, it is a stupid thing for this monster to say because they are hurting people. "We deserve to live as much as you," like, so do the people you kill deserve to die? Like, what's going on? So the fact that they have this kind of villain say it feels so out of place. Maybe they are starting to build onto something here that they never quite, you know, fulfill. But even as buildup, it sucks.

C: Yeah. I agree it's just a weird line. Like, I feel lik, you don't write a line like this unless it's supposed to be meaningful, but they treat it very unmeaningfully.

John says, "I don't think so," 'cause he's a little action hero boy, and he thinks he's John Wick. And he shoots Luther between the eyes.

G: The way it's shot, as in the camera work is something that they do every time- I think every time-

C: Oh, yeah, every time the Colt is shot-

G: - not sure if every single time, but like, in the early seasons, at the very least, like, everything the gun- every time the Colt is fired, they do that camera work. The most prominent one is Dean's 'cause that's, I don't know, in AMVs a lot, I guess.

C: It is.

G: And it's the one that looks the most visually appealing, but-

C: Well, I think the one that looks the most visually appealing is when Eileen shoots the Colt. [laughs] But that's not because of the camera work.

G: Wait, how many people shoot the Colt?

C: I don't know.

G: Does Cas ever shoot the Colt?

C: I don't think Cas really uses guns, very often, right-

G: Oh!!!

C: - except for that one scene, where he uses a gun and he's like, "These things can be useful," and I like-

G: No, no, no, no! Cas shoots the Colt... but misses! [laughs] [C screams]

C: [screaming] Nooo!!! No!!!! No! He didn't. He didn't. He did not. He did not!

G: [laughing] I lovee... I loveee this little gay guy. [both laugh] It's literally- I feel like that's like, code in Supernatural for gay.

C: [laughing] It's li- his wrist is too limp to aim. I loveee him so much. [laughing] Also, again, to be clear again, we are members of the queer community, so this is okay.

Wrist literally too limp to shoot. [G laughs]

G: I'm not sure, though, if that's true. I just- I'm scrolling through the Superwiki. I mean, I guess it's true. It's from the Superwiki. But if this turns out to be false, don't blame me. [laughing] Blame whoever is the Wincest shipper in the Superwiki community.

C: [laughing] Ouch!

G: Uh, should I tell this in the podcast? Or are we gonna make enemies.

C: Oh, the fact that we were mutuals on Superwiki wincestie?

G: Yeah, like we used to follow Superwiki on Twitter, and then they revealed themselves to be a wincestie, and I got freaked so bad. Anyway.

C: Yeah. [laughing] Anyway. We're way off course.

G: [laughing] Yeah.

C: So John shoots Luther, and it's a whole thing. Like, there's like, a sigil that appears on his head, his skeleton shows up, he, like, falls down there's like, flashes of light going through, there's like, this big charcoal-y hole in his head. Kate's like, crying out, "Luther!" And then she starts running at John, but then - I'm pretty sure this is Jenny - like, another vampire that's with her who, yeah, I think is Jenny - grabs her, is like, "No, bro, like, he's gonna shoot us," and pulls her into the car, and they ride off.

Do they just- is the bullet still there, or does it disappear after you shoot it? 'Cause like, now there are only five left unless they went back and dug it out of Luther's brain, right?

G: No, I think they make more bullets, don't they?

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G: Okay, so in the motel, Sam and Dean are packing up, and John is by the door, and he goes up to the boys, and he says, "Hey, boys." [laughs] Which- every time he says, "Hey, boys," all I can think of is the number of people who also say "Hey, boys" in Supernatural.

C: Yeah.

G: So there's Meg, Billie, Crowley... I think Rowena does it too.

Sam says, "Yes, sir," yet again, which, because you brought it up, just makes me think of the like, meeting in the middle thing. But also maybe like, it's a way to combat the fact that Dean- that John may be angry because they didn't follow an order.

C: Yeah, I agree. I think in this case, that's what it is.

G: Yeah. John says, like, "You ignored a direct order, there." And Sam says, "Yes, sir," and then Dean- [screams] Dean goes, "Yeah, but we saved your ass." Go Dean!

C: Agh. Go Dean!

G: Dean! [emotional sounds] And then, Sam looks at Dean like, a bit uncomfortably. But Dean is just looking at John, and he's clenching his jaw, and he is obviously standing his ground. John says, "You're right." Dean says, "I am?" John continues, he says, like, "It scares the hell out of me. You two are all I got. But I guess we are stronger as a family. So we go after this damn thing together." Sam and Dean say "Yes, sir," and that's the end of the episode.

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C: What was the song that was playing over the end?

G: The song that's playing here is the song that plays at the end of every single episode, like, in the credits.

C: Oh, okay. I usually leave before then.

G: I also leave-

C: Did it start earlier?

G: No, they just put it in there, and then they like, repeated it again at the end. The only reason I know this is because I- [laughs] sorry, but I listen to-

C: The Supernatural soundtrack.

G: Yes. [laughs]

C: I understand.

G: It's so funny! There's one soundtrack there that's literally called "Salmon Dean." [both laugh]

C: That's so good!

G: Yeah. "Salmon Dean in the Heartland."

C: Thank you, Jay Gruska.

G: Yeah. "Blood Drops Keep Falling on My Head." [laughs] This one is called "Gratuitous Sex and Violence." "The Meat Suit Mambo." And- this is the song. "End Credits & Mo' Guitar Grit." So, it's that one.

C: Mm, got it, yeah.

G: And then the famous "Americana," of course, which I have listened to endlessly. One time, I asked an ex to play that for me in the piano because she was a pianist.

C: Aww.

G: And she was like, "No, it's too boring." [laughs]

C: Boo. And that's why you're exes.

G: [laughing] That's literally why she's my ex.

Anyway, so what did you think about this episode?

C: I had issues with the vampires, but I thought that all of the John stuff with Sam and Dean was extremely good.

G: Yeah, the character stuff is really good. But I guess the way they were planning this out to be, like, this is the first time we have seen a pack of monsters, 'cause all the monsters prior are individual people or individual creatures. This one is the first one that's like, part of a society in a way, and it makes it so much more threatening. Like, it makes it creepier, it makes it darker. And I don't know if I actually really like that kind of dark vibe. You mentioned this, in like, private with me, but um, like, Kripke era is defined by that kind of grittiness, right?

C: Right.

G: And the reality of the situation is, I don't think I'm just that much of a Kripke fan!

C: Mm.

G: So, yeah. Kripke era, I mean. But yeah.

C: Yeah.

G: So this is like, very Kripke era, right? This episode could not exist in any other era of Supernatural. I don't know, the fact that it's like it can be defined as that, and I don't like the definition, is like- I mean, I enjoyed it because of the brother and the family moments, but otherwise, I didn't like that it was so upsetting!

C: Yeah. I feel like- I'm looking forward to John dying, but I'm also going to miss him because I feel like all the episodes of Supernatural that I really like, it's because I'm feeling things about like, John and Dean or John and Sam. So like, once that's gone, I have to wait so long before Cas shows up and I can find the new thing I care about.

G: The thing with John is, much like Mary, the specter of him is present in Supernatural. You know that joke that like, "you know when the episode is gonna have John as a prominent, looming figure when Dean wears his leather jacket." [both laugh] Like, that is literally true, though. Like, it's shorthand for like, "John's gonna be in this episode." But yeah, like, I think John, you know, dies, but he just didn't leave.

C: Yeah.

G: The daddy issues, which I'm assuming is what you're talking about that you like, is like, around. Gonna be around.

C: Right.

G: Yeah! So, Best Line/Worst Line. What's your best line?

C: My best line is when John says, "I said, get back in the damn car." And Sam said, "Yeah. And I said no."

G: God, it's so good.

C: I will literally suck his dick. [G laughs] You?

G: I would go for that general fight, but specifically, Sam saying, "You were just pissed off you couldn't control me anymore."

C: Yeah.

G: Because it's a lot. [laughs] And also like, it is such a good insight on the fight, right? Like, Sam does think that he was on the right, and, like, he was. But like, it's a nice insight on like, what Sam thinks about the fight and why it happened, and, you know, much like everything, there's a side to whatever. And if John really was just pissed that like Sam isn't following orders anymore, like, that's not for- that's for John to decide, you know, but the fact that that's what Sam thinks is very telling of their relationship prior to that fight.

C: Yeah.

G: Worst line. What's your worst line?

C: "You like to watch? So do I."

G: Boo.

C: Boo.

G: Ah, I don't know what my worst line is. I- can I just do you? [laughs] "Do you." No, can I just do your line?

C: [laughing] Well, we're already pregnant... [both laugh] But okay, yeah. Yeah.

G: Exactly.

C: Go ahead.

G: Yeah. That line. Because it's just- I mean like, I get that like, these people are evil, so it's like, you know, their actions are supposed to be evil, but the framing and the- I don't know. Like it is like, a homophobic thing to do that, especially because it's not like they do much lesbian kissing in Supernatural.

C: Right.

G: Especially in the early seasons.

C: Right. Do we get any- well, we get Charlie and Gilda. Is that it?

G: We get some Charlie stuff. I don't think it's just Charlie and Gilda. Not sure if Charlie kisses any other women. But she is involved in other women.

C: I feel like I would have seen more gifsets.

G: We have that one girl who has the death touch, but that's just a mention.

C: Well, but she doesn't kiss anyone, or else, they would be dead.

G: Yeah, that's- they would die. Not sure if there's- oh, there's the teenage Lebanon girls.

C: Yeah, but they don't kiss. The camera cuts away as they start - oh, no they start leaning in, and their friend's like, "You guys are so gross!"

G: Yeah. [laughs] Which is not homophobic because that guy's also gay.

C: Yeah, which is not homophobic in that case. Yeah, that's just teenagers.

Yeah, no, I feel like probably the only two lesbian kisses in Supernatural are like, this and Charlie and Gilda. So that's not great.

G: Which- did they also do a point of Sam and Dean being like, live slug reacting [both laugh] to the kiss.

C: Yeah. [laughing] Literally! Literally live slug reacting all over the place. I mean, I think Sam was normal. They were zooming in on Dean's live slug reaction.

G: IMDB rating.

C: I feel like this is probably around, like "Home" in terms of like, character stuff. But I don't really know how people would take the case, given that it is sort of different from the ones before.

G: Yeah, it's soo much.

C: Yeah.

G: And maybe - you know what? I have a theory that people voted this down after the finale.

C: Oh, interesting.

G: I'm not sure if it's true, but I have a feeling.

C: Oh, because of Jenny, yes.

G: Yeah.

C: Okay, then, in that case... 8.4?

G: Damn, 8.4? That's so low.

C: I mean, I think it should be higher, but like, I feel like if people are voting it down... Hm. Actually, I don't know if people were powerful enough to vote it down that much. Hm. 8.6?

G: 8.6. Okya.

C: You?

G: I'll go 8.9.

C: Okay.

G: Okay.

Oh, fuck!

C: What?

G: It's so much lower than "Provenance"!

C: What?

G: 'Cause "Provenance" is 8.7. And this one is an 8.5.

C: Ugh. What did people like about "Provenance" so much?

Maybe it's just 8.5 because of Jenny.

G: Yeah, maybe so. Let's check the user reviews.

C: Oh, also, did you want to check if that vampire was Filipino?

G: Let's check if the vampire is Filipino, actually. He's, uh-

C: He's Italian.

G: [laughing] He's Italian!

C: Yeah. I mean, I guess that makes sense. Italian's like, spicy white, right? [G keeps laughing]

G: Still, that's so fucking funny. This guy just looked like a little bit of a mestizo Filipino, I guess.

C: Yeah. Yeah.

G: Hashtag Italians are POC. [both laugh]

C: Nooo!

G: No!

C: Nooo! I mean, there are Italian people who are people of color, but being ethnically Italian does not make you a person of color.

G: Great. Fantastic. This is- this is- this is- how we're gonna get canceled, by the way. [C laughs] Like, me mistaking an Italian guy as Filipino.

C: [laughing] When Cas shows up and I start Asian Cas truthing, like, while looking at his face on my screen, that's when we start getting canceled.

G: Okay, let's look at the reviews. This one called out the "anti-stereotypical" vampires.

C: Noo! This person said that "the vampires are cool, but the script focuses too much on the troubled relationship between John and Sam." [G laughs]

G: No!!

C: What's wrong with you? "The legend behind the Colt is easily the highlight of the episode"? You thought Samuel's meth lab was the highlight of the episode, bro?

G: This one says, like, "Watch The Lost Boys and Near Dark, and you will get a kick out of it the two movies if you liked this episode."

C: [laughing] Okay, so let's not watch The Lost Boys and Near Dark...

G: Didn't we in the Discord watch Lost Boys?

C: Oh, I didn't but I know that there was a movie night about that because Dean references it.

G: Well, Jack references it as something Dean likes.

C: Aw, Jack!

G: But I think I watched Lost Boys, but I do not recall jack shit about it. I know they were like, in California or something. [laughs] God, I'm- Yeah.

C: Someone mentions that like, the Colt history with the notion of hunters being like, gunslingers and sort of like, cowboys or like, people in Westerns is a motif that starts in this episode. So that's interesting.

G: I don't actually recall much about the cowboy stuff in Supernatural other than "Dean has a cowboy kink" and also, they go back in time and like, pretend to be cowboys, and he does a shootout. That's all that I recall. Which is fascinating, because, as you know, I'm kind of... into cowboys. [laughs] I don't know if it stems from -

C: [laughing] Dean-coded.

[G sighs] [C laughs]

G: So this has gone for literally so long.

That's it for this episode of Busty Asian Beauties. Next time, we will be talking about season 1, Episode 21: "Salvation." Leave us a rating or a review wherever you get your podcasts.

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C: Bye!

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TGCF donghua Special Episode Thoughts (SPOILERS for episode & novel!)

Favorite moment:

Of COURSE that amazing ending sequence, which is the mirror of Dianxia's backstory at the end of the first episode, except this time from Hua Cheng's point of view. Speaking of, holy mother of YUM, dear gods, Hua Cheng:

Look at this "hideous" man. I am DROOLING.

Funny thing is, I didn't even know his appearance was supposed to be a secret, that we technically hadn't seen his face yet all this time. I remember we had a super quick glimpse of him in the Banyue pit and I thought that was his reveal, that that'll be all we'll get for now and I was fine with that...that is, until this ending sequence happened and we actually see him in his entirety. My eyes will forever never be the same. What was I even thinking??? The flashes in the pit were absolutely inferior to the real thing. No comparison. He is so gorgeous; I can't WAIT for Xie Lian to meet him next season.

Second favorite moment:

What I love about this scene is first of all it features some of my favorite lines from the novel, "If you don't know what to live for, then just live for me. If you don't know the meaning of life, then take me as the meaning your life." Even though Dianxia was playing it up for dramatic effect, I loved how he crawled towards San Lang and then uttered the lines with such conviction. I LOVED the way the music reached a cresendo during his words--hell, I love the music in this entire episode, this entire show, period. I also love how bittersweet this scene is: here Dianxia is so embarrassed by his own words that he even laughs about them, dismisses them, not know just how much of an effect they had on the person he said them to, how they really did serve to motivate that person to live on, to exist, utterly for him. Not knowing at all that that person he said what he now thinks were silly words to is right in front of him. The irony!

I'm still making my way through the book so I haven't gotten to the part where all is revealed to Xie Lian yet, but I can only imagine how shocking and emotional this particular revelation would be. It'll probably be ten years before we get to see all that in the donghua, if we ever do, but I'm gonna keep on crossing my fingers and hoping.

"I swear, whether in Heaven or or on Earth, you cannot find someone more sincere than me". The subs left out the Heaven or Earth part but it's still such a good line. Love also how San Lang precedes that by trying to reach out to touch Dianxia but is like too afraid to. The donghua really captured his feelings of...I guess I'd call it timid inferiority...so well.

I have a strong suspicion what that ring is (irl, I've seen companies advertising turning ashes into diamonds as a keepsake of your loved ones...never tried it so I don't know if it's the real deal or some kind of scam) and I cannot wait to get to that revelation as well. Putting aside the potential significance of this momento, the fact that Hua Cheng left Dianxia a ring to wear around his neck is already a beautiful gesture on its own.

I already miss seeing how San Lang looks adoringly at Xie Lian. In fact, I think I'm going to miss San Lang for quite a while since next season I think we'll be mostly spending time with Hua Cheng. Not complaining at all since Hua Cheng will no doubt look at Dianxia just as adoringly, but I will miss this cute guy.

Also already missing the cuteness that is Dianxia. I love all his expressions...the way he said "San Lang" just made my heart explode. How can he be this adorable??? Really, bravo to Jiang Guangtao-laoshi, his voice actor, for such an endearing voice performance. I actually started listening to the Qiang Jin Jiu audio drama because I've become a fan. Imagine Xie Lian being super seductive all the time. That's the ear candy I'm enjoying now, even though I only understand like less than half of the plot due to my shoddy Chinese comprehension.

Proud of how San Lang didn't just lose it when Dianxia cradled his face like that. This man really has unbelievable self control.

I loved that they were chatting in bed like an old married couple. I'm sure this is a glimpse into their future married life. 😁

Besides SanLian, I know Banyue was in this episode as well, I still think she's adorable and love her voice, and I'm glad she gets to enjoy a torture-free life now (I am assuming she does).

I'm glad we got this special episode to really close out the season, but I'm still kinda confused as to why we didn't get it at the actual end of the season but rather as an odd stand alone episode like this. Obviously it picked up right where the 11th episode left off, so it would've slotted in perfectly well. I was hoping the reason they held on to it was because they were going to attach a teaser PV for the next season, but alas that wasn't the case. I wonder if they just needed more time to finish the episode. I still don't quite understand how the Chinese donghua industry works: for something seemingly as popular as TGCF, you would think they'd have good enough budget and resources to finish episodes in time and to make more than just 12 episodes. There are other donghua shows I've seen on Bilibili that have blown way past 12 episodes, so I don't understand why they have to stubbornly stick to a dozen only for something like TGCF. Or is it a danmei thing, I wonder. They just don't want to devote the time and resources to danmei shows beyond just 12 episodes? So weird. Again, VERY GRATEFUL we're getting a second season. SINCERELY praying that we get many more seasons after so that eventually they'll finish out the book. God I hope I finish reading before the donghua team finishes putting out the show.

And that brings me to: Current Reading Progress...chapter 160. Look, I'm gonna be honest, I'm just not a fan of the whole jinx demon concept or the Brocade Immortal. I know all mysteries of the week lead back to the gods and their backstory, but as CONCEPTS, I was just NOT into them so I constantly got distracted. I know MXTX-laoshi was under a LOT of pressure from both censorship and just ridiculous deadlines (I was told she had to produce a chapter a day, which is INSANE), so I feel like a douchebag for even thinking anything negative about the book...not to mention I'm only on Book 3 still so maybe all of this will be wrapped up nicely at the end. But for now, yeah, those two as ideas are a bit underwhelming and almost silly (especially the Brocade Immortal) and maybe I don't need the backstory of ALL the gods. Anyway, before anyone yells at me, there's always a chance I might change my mind about all this by the end...which I hope to get to soon. Didn't finish the book in time for this special episode which was my goal, so readjusting the goalpost back a little further...hopefully just a tad...like a few weeks, because I DO want to get to the unrelenting pain soon so that I can get through the suffering and finally to the HuaLian happily ever after ending.

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Hey Goop! Do you have any favorite Detective Conan episodes? I'd love to hear your recommendations.

You know, I've actually just been thinking about editing some GIFsets of my recommended/favorite episodes for each season! It's information I wanted to include in a series of seasonal write-ups for the show, but since I was feeling like I'd never complete those, I thought the GIFs might be a nice alternative.

Not sure if either the write-ups or the GIFs will ever really happen, but I'd love to share a few standouts now, thank you! I'll just note that there's a lot I haven't seen yet; I'm only on Season 14 right now and have watched very little beyond that point. So, most anything I can recommend will be pretty limited to the earlier half of the show.

Also, I wouldn't particularly consider myself a mystery fan! If you're looking for cases with especially clever tricks or phenomenal detective writing, I wouldn't be able to tell you. This list is more about charming character interactions, main plot development, and emotional resonance.

All that said, here are some of my favorites, in chronological order:

🔎 The first 12 or so episodes. I think these are generally all pretty solid, even the ones that aren't at all relevant to the overarching story (like Episode 8, "The Murder of the Art Museum Owner") and the literal anime-only filler that is Episode 6, "The Valentine Murder Case." In many ways, Detective Conan isn't my type of show in the slightest, but every one of these stories exemplifies why I like it so much anyway. The interactions between characters are fun, the scenarios can get so ridiculous that they make me laugh, but I also genuinely feel an emotional connection to the events that are occurring, too. I don't know if I'd single out any one of these episodes as an absolute fave per se, but they are all classics that I like to revisit.

🔎 Episode 36, "The Monday, 7:30 P.M. Murder Case." I feel obligated to list this one because, well, I wrote a 4,000-word essay about it. Yes, my longest essay for this show is really about an anime-only filler. But I like the central conflict here and the questions it raises. It's an episode I've clearly thought about a lot.

🔎 Episodes 48-49, "The Diplomat Murder Case." Heiji Hattori's first appearance, as well as the first case Shinichi solves as himself since Episode 1. Need I say more?

🔎 Episode 54, "The Game Company Murder Case." Just a solid story dealing with the main plot. I admittedly get a little (or maybe a lot) lost in the actual case, but I love the sense of tension here, and the ending scene is one of the most affecting moments of the series for me.

🔎 Episodes 57-58, "The Holmes Freak Murder Case." Heiji's second appearance. I love his dynamic and interactions with Conan (even, and perhaps especially, before he realizes that Conan is Shinichi), and the case itself does well in keeping my interest, particularly with FUNimation's English dub. While the script or performances regretfully don't do anything to localize Heiji's Kansai accent (which is maybe odd, given that there is an effort to localize Tequila's Kansai accent in the aforementioned Episode 54, making it into a Boston/New York accent), I get a real kick out of the fortuneteller's lines being riddled with references to "sensing" things and premonitions:

[Image descriptions: Screenshots from Episode 57 of Detective Conan/Case Closed. Several characters, including the fortuneteller Maria Toda and Ran and Kogoro Mori, look towards an offscreen window. Maria says, in FUNimation's English dub, "I'm sensing that this rain will go on for some time," and Kogoro adds, "I'm sensing that I'm tired. And hungry, too." End image descriptions.]

This is definitely one of my most rewatched cases. Silly, fun, and I love to see Heiji and Shinichi vibing.

🔎 Episode 118, "The Naniwa Serial Murder Case." Probably my favorite episode so far. Yes, I am definitely biased towards Heiji. But I again love his dynamic and interactions with Conan here—he's so unabashed in how much he cares for his friend, and Conan also clearly cherishes having Heiji as a friend, too. You can't tell me that there isn't something genuine behind his fit when they're separated.

I'm a sap. It gets to me.

But beyond that, I also feel invested in this case, and I like how it calls back to past episodes.

🔎 Episodes 138-139, "The Final Screening Murder Case." Admittedly, this one might be on here simply for the mirror scene. Which I adore. But also, while you could totally skip this case and not miss much, I do really like the character interactions here with Conan and Ai and the Detective Boys. Just super cute and charming. I'd definitely recommend not skipping it, even if it's not on Xerblade's important episode list.

🔎 Episode 174, "The Twenty-Year-Old Murderous Intent: The Symphony Serial Murder Case." My biases are showing, I know, but I got a lot of love for this Heiji case. How much Shinichi values his detective friend is depicted in heartbreaking clarity, the actual case is one of the more emotionally affecting, and there's just some stunning and memorable shots. Would really love to see this one remastered one day.

🔎 Episodes 176-178, "Reunion with the Black Organization." It's probably an unpopular opinion, but I think I would actually rank these episodes above "The Desperate Revival." I love the exploration into Conan and Ai's thought processes—into the contrast of her jaded worldview and hopelessness and his childish impulsivity and recklessness. There's a great sense of tension, tons of heartwarming scenes, and unlike in "The Desperate Revival," I find Shinichi's immaturity here to be charming rather than irritating. Just stellar episodes all around.

🔎 Episodes 188-193, "The Desperate Revival." But, of course, I'm not leaving "The Desperate Revival" off of this list! It's definitely still a favorite, though it's probably also an unpopular opinion that I'm most fond of the first two episodes, 188 and 189. I'm a sucker for the drama and love to see the Detective Boys taking on a more active, productive role. But there are great emotional moments across all the episodes, lots of fun twists, and a heartwrenching conclusion. Absolute classic Conan. No recommended list would be complete without these.

🔎 Episode 196, "The Invisible Weapon, Ran's First Investigation." An anime-only filler, but I feel it's worth mentioning because I was so... let down? by the first canon case in which Ran gets to be the detective (Episodes 343-344, "The Convenience Store Trap"). She's a lot more proactive here, there's so much less repetition, and it even references "The Desperate Revival," so it has a sense of continuity!

Season 8 was kind of a huge slog for me, with tons of dull, subpar fillers, but I like this one a lot. If nothing else, I think it's at least nice to look at, with some great shots:

[Image descriptions: Screenshots from Episode 196 of Detective Conan. In the first image, Ran and Sonoko sit on opposite ends of a table as the sun sets. They both have glasses filled with a dark liquid and a straw in front of them, but neither is drinking; they are instead looking intently at each other. The second image depicts Kogoro's office. Ran stands at one end of Kogoro's desk with her head bowed, while Kogoro sits in a chair on the other side. It's mostly dark, with a small bit of light coming in through the window behind Kogoro. End image descriptions.]

🔎 Episode 225, "The Secret of the High Sales." An absolutely hilarious anime-only filler. I can understand having problems with it because Shinichi's character development arguably goes backwards here, but personally, it's just so dang funny that I can't find it in me to be bothered. DetCo is such a formulaic series, so episodes that break the formula like this one are a breath of fresh air.

Plus, "Koi wa Thrill, Shock, Suspense" is such a bop of an OP.

[Image description: A GIF from the eighth Detective Conan opening animation. Conan dances against a green rectangle, a serious expression on his face. Behind him, a shadowed figure mirrors his movements against a yellow rectangle. End image description.]

🔎 Episodes 277-278, "English Teacher vs. Great Western Detective." Probably no surprise that I'm recommending another Heiji case! But it's a rare case with him that's very main plot relevant, with so many great moments. I think I summed it up all right in the tags for a GIFset I made from 277:

#anyway anyway just felt a great need to gif this after posting about it the other day! this two parter is one of my faves #doesn't quite top 118 for me (not nearly as interested in the case here) but it has so many gems #like heiji and conan going into jodie's bathroom together to steal her gamergirl bathwater lol #(no that's not what really happens but okay it totally kind of looks like that omg) #and it's also got plot!! #great eps would recommend

🔎 Episode 304, "The Trembling Police Headquarters: 12 Million Hostages." Okay, I'm a sap, and lots of things make me cry, and, yes, of the handful of DetCo episodes that have brought me to tears, this is one of them. This is an incredibly emotional special, full of fantastic character interactions and edge-of-your-seat action. I laughed, I cried, it's good classic Cone.

Just wish there was some closure for Jam-chan.

🔎 Episodes 309-311, "Contact with the Black Organization." I'm a big fan of the main plot, and I love the intensity of these episodes. The ending bit of 311 is the most anxious and edge-of-my-seat I might have ever gotten from this series thus far.

It's a shame that my OCR'd softsubs are a total mess, though...

[Image description: A screenshot from Episode 309 of Detective Conan. Conan sits by the computer, a shocked expression on his face as he stares at Ai, whose hair is still wet from the shower and who looks entirely unamused. Dr. Agasa smiles nervously as he talks to her. The English subtitles, riddled with errors, read, "of weste :n novels: you see I Mm hooked eon this internet series." End image description.]

I started editing a nicer softsub file made for the remastered version to fit with my DVD (as the remastered version of the case cuts out a significant amount of content), but it's a long process. Still, I'm so fond of these episodes that I really want to get some proper subs on them! But maybe Crunchyroll could start adding some more episodes and save me the trouble...?

🔎 Episode 345, "Head-to-Head Match with the Black Organization: A Dual Mystery on a Full Moon Night." I feel like this one is often cited as absolute peak Cone, so it's probably no surprise to see it on my list. I do think the first half is a little weak myself, so I wouldn't personally put this at the very top of my recommended episodes, but this is most definitely a fun ride. The way that things introduced literally over a hundred episodes before finally get paid off in the most outlandish and ridiculous ways is incredible and addicting and exactly the kind of nonsense that I love this show for. You get intensity and hilarity and the wildest reveals here, and it is such a treat. I absolutely adore the ending bits of this one.

🔎 Episode 356, "Kaitou Kid's Miraculous Midair Walk." Probably my favorite Kid episode so far. I had a lot of fun trying to figure out his trick, and there's a really fantastic interaction between him and Conan at the end. This is just a good time.

🔎 Episodes 521-523-ish, "Murderer, Shinichi Kudo." I've obviously just skipped to this one, so I'm definitely missing a lot of the build up, but I'm still really fond of it. I do have to say I'm disappointed that it teases a plotline that it ultimately doesn't go through with, but there are so many good moments with Ran, Heiji, Kazuha, and Shinichi. Plus, it's one of the rare times that Heiji and Ai actually interact, so that's fun. The case is cheesy and dramatic (and I say this affectionately), and the displays of love and friendship get me so good. I'm excited to go through it again when I have watched everything leading up to it.

🔎 Episodes 853-854, "Memories From Sakura Class." A flashback case about how Shinichi and Ran first met that's unbelievably cute. I was smiling like the whole dang time because they're so adorable.

Also... I've never related to Shinichi more than when he tries to impress Ran and get her to like him but only insults her instead. Big mood.

🔎 Episodes 927-928, "The Scarlet School Trip." Just... cute. I don't think I really have much more to say about it than that.

And I think I'll leave it there! There are a lot more episodes and cases that I'm fond of, but these are probably the ones that stand out the most to me now. Thank you for asking!!

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firefly season is ending soon but i still haven't seen a single one all year

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stellar firma is the first show i've liked this much and also been there when it ended. and, goddamn THIS is what's like...

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what would you do if i was the one note on your one note post...

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the magnus archives, episode 159 "the last" / supernatural, episode 8.17 "goodbye stranger"

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if i post on twitter or tiktok that i hate an actor or show or something twenty braindead bitches will go "??? what did they do? is it problematic or something?" nah man. i'm just a hater. i just dislike things sometimes. a lot of the time actually. randos who spend too much time online think you're only allowed to make fun of things if it's """problematic.""" not everything is racist or misogynistic or biphobic or whatever. and then this is why these kids will reach for any reason a random book they don't like is #cancelled. 15 year olds will dig up something kinda iffy some musician i've never heard of said ten years ago so they can justify calling them stinky in their instagram comments. you know these people always love "normalizing" bullshit so. normalize hating shit for no reason. normalize being a huge fucking asshole who bitches about movies they don't like for no goddamn reason. normalize making fun of famous people just because they're famous and it's fucking funny. this influencer didn't have to have said a slur in 2011 for me to say her shoes are ugly. live laugh hate

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@maeum-your told me to just answer all of the questions from the tv show ask, so here it is (i'm ignoring the questions i've answered in the ask before). i hope you know that i'm now expecting the same thing from you! also i'm only going to name the shows i've seen in 2021 and this month because i have a horrible memory and can't remember every show i've seen.

1. a show that you wish you could be a character on

so many 😩 i usually self-insert myself into the shows i watch. my top 3 would probably be shadow & bone, ratched and memorias de idhùn

2. a show you are currently watching

again, so many, i have to pick a top 3 again: my sassy girl (where the main character reminds me a lot of jake from enhypen...), 2gether the series and komi can't communicate

3. a show that changed the way you look at things

i don't think I watch the right shows for that, so i'll go with every show from "heiter bis tödlich", because it showed me how entertaining german crime shows playing in little towns can be

4. a show that made you angry

fleabag. i loved the show and i loved her but her family made me really angry and upset.

5. a show that made you constantly cry

extraordinary you. ha-ru my love 🤧🤧

6. a show that made you constantly laugh

brooklyn 99! i love this show .

8. a show that you will never watch again

the mist. i didn't like the characters, i didn't like the plot and there was no explanation why things were happening. behind her eyes, too. there was only one character i really liked and that was destroyed by a horrible ending.

9. a show that you wish more people would watch

the unlisted! it has amazing characters, an exiting story and i need a second season so go watch it!

10. a show that you binged watched

i binge-watch almost every show, but my favorites were extraordinary you, ratched and memorias de idhùn

11. a show that took you a long time to finish

supernatural with its 15 seasons (i still haven't seen all the episodes). also altered carbon because while i loved season 1 i didn't really care about season 2. and last but not least ¿quién mató a sara? because i couldn't care less about the characters but i did want to know who killed sara (which we still don't know for sure 🙄)

12. a show that you could not finish

fate: the winx saga. i had to stop when her parents took away her bedroom door, but there was a lot bothering me before already. and young wallander. that one wasn't bad but i had a panic attack right at the beginning of the first episode and couldn't continue it.

14. a show that has the best setting

the killing of gianni versace. you have impressive theaters and mansions on the one hand and on the other you have tiny houses filled with dirt and garbage. and it fits the storyline so perfectly, it's amazing

15. a show that has the best cast

stranger things. most of them are still young but they are amazing actresses and actors.

16. a show that has a good ending

extraordinary you. after all the drama we had during the show the ending felt very fitting and like a peace offering.

17. a show that has a terrible ending

every show with an open ending. i hate it.

18. a show that you believe should have had more seasons

julie and the phantoms! also the irregulars.

19. a show that you wish you could watch again for the first time

extraordinary you, disenchantment and wandavision.

20. a show you always recommend to people

it might come as a surprise, but it is extraordinary you! go watch that show!