#I'm doing my best here

[twstjam]

THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR TWST BOOK 7 CHAPTER 5

Lilia's love for Meleanor and Revan: Romantic, Platonic, or Familial?

Short answer: ALL of them. ANY of them. A secret third thing. Take your pick!!

Long answer because even though some people have explained it already I haven't felt like anyone has NOT come off as aggressive towards shippers so I thought I could help get the message across?:

So there's been some dispute in the fandom about Lilia romantically loving Meleanor and Revan because Meleanor said that Lilia loves her and Revan, but the actual kanji used by her is a lot less simple than just "love" as explained by @/ventique18 in this post. (which I suggest that you read first before this one so that you understand the true and full picture if you haven't!!)

(here's a few screenshots to sum up what she said though for the sake of this post)

That clears it up, but there's more to this conversation I'd like to point out. As a Briar Throuple shipper I'm making this post to explain or at least shed some light on:

Why people read Meleanor's words as romantic and why they ship Lilia, Meleanor, and Revan

Now, I'm not saying that Lilia having romantic feelings for his friends is the one and only correct view (if you do think that, did you even read the rest of this post?). I'm saying that people viewing it as romantic have a very valid reason and it's not just people shipping because they like to ship when they see the word "love". People shipping Lilia, Meleanor, and Revan are not automatically disregarding any familial and platonic interpretations of their relationship. (or at least not all of them are and I am asking you to not assume.)

Translators are free to mention it if this translation I found is incorrect BUT STILL—

Okay so, if you'll notice, in the conversation between Meleanor and Lilia, after saying that Lilia loves her, she specifically brings up the time he proposed to her 200 years ago. Right after that, she says that Lilia and Revan, her husband, spent more time together than a married couple.

There are a lot of valid arguments that are against these things being proof of Lilia having romantic attraction, like: Lilia and Meleanor were just kids playing house, Lilia and Revan spending a lot of time together is normal because they're besties, and also Lilia himself says that he was just a stupid kid which can imply that it was just an old crush and he doesn't feel the same anymore.

But look at the big picture!! Look at the words Meleanor specifically used!! The kanji used for "love" is indeed for pure, platonic, and familial love, but immediately after saying it Meleanor mentions things specific to romantic love: Proposal. Marriage.

She could have easily used a different example of Lilia's love for him. She could have easily compared Lilia's time spent with Revan with literally anything else, but she didn't!!! She mentioned a marriage proposal from when they were kids. Even if it might not be valid anymore she still mentioned it out of anything else!! And she compared Lilia and Revan to a married couple!!

The words used in this conversation, like the kanji for "love" and the specific romantically-associated words, both point to Lilia's love being either romantic or platonic/familial. The kanji says specifically pure love, but Meleanor's argument and comparison has romantic tone. It's either. It's both. Anything you want it to be. A secret third thing.

That concludes my ramble folks <3 Shippers are not disregarding platonic and familial love, please don't just assume they are. Not to mention, most of the people doing it are DIASOMNIA FANS. THE platonic/familial love enjoyers of the fandom!! Why have I seen people have such bad faith in them? Just because someone says one thing doesn't mean they don't also enjoy another thing!!

Still though, translators helping to explain the wording correctly is still very much appreciated, but it doesn't disregard romantic views nonetheless nor does shipping disregard platonic and familial ones.

Although, I do understand why some people are a bit frustrated seeing as romance IS more prevalent in media and is often wrongly seen as "higher" than other forms of love, which is a valid frustration, but it still frustrated me a bit how I've seen some people be so quick to be aggressive to shippers.

[kaydeefalls]

Mr. Hamgee's cheek is suspiciously peanut-shaped this evening.

(spits out a peanut) "what peanut? i don't know what you're talking about."

"...delicious peanut..."

[twinkpoll]

Me: I'll just make a fun little poll on Tumblr about twinks! :D

Asks: please discuss the fact that the concept of whiteness is dependent on geographical location, historical time period and culture and is not a universal blanket state of existence.

[adder24]

I did a thing

@untilthe12ofnever @nuggsmum @hellostickerdoodle @the-boneyard-rider​ @littletime67​ @bonnie131313​ @scnewztown​ @bliphany​ @imelopsittacus​ @sunrise68​ @stingalingaling​ @mother-of-a-murder​ @izhunny​ @littlefreya​ @nuggsmumreads​ @myfriendtheurbanlegend​ @reeselivesforeverinmyheart​​ @hellostickerdoodle @scribbledoodles @traveler-of-realms @happiness-in-the-dark

No idea who else to tag but please feel free to share. I'm just trying to get this story told.

[goldenflowerdragon]

Asking some artists/writers that I follow:

What is the most recent thing you've written or drawn? Do you like to share sneak peeks of your work, or do you prefer to post finished pieces only?

I'm currently working om a piece for a friend (its a surprise so they dont know it just yet) its a four piece panel of their OC and their canon pair thats been paired with a song I feel close resembles the match them. In terms of writing work, I'm still preparing an outline for my Leo fic "Glow of the Crescent Moon".

I'm lowkey dealing with self esteem issues thinking no one really cares so I usually keep my wips (both written and art) to my close friends on my discord server. However if I gain more of an interest on either Instagram or tumblr, I can post more.

More so, I prefer posting finished works, but I'm flexible. If followers wanna see more wips, I'll post more wips.

[tweedlebean]

An excerpt from my current embroidery project

[agendratum]

me trying to diversify the pool of kp characters i make text posts about: ok so it’s all going to be about pete vegas and porsche and then we’ll throw in like two posts that are about someone else right

[starryserenade]

I've given up trying to make these mice fight for any extended period of time. This was supposed to span chapters. Minnie and Mickey were supposed to go their separate ways for a time, and Minnie was supposed to do something really friggin dumb after believing some more outlandish lies spun by Oswald, best intentions and all that. But it was going to put Mickey in danger and lead to this really dramatic sort of thing. But I could not for the life of me come up with a situation where she'd be so completely naive or, at the very least, where her love for him wouldn't lead her to trust him enough to be honest or to assume that that Mickey was in the past and this one was every bit the one she loved. That's what led to the present situation, where she has her outburst but he's able to break through to her in the end. Minnie, at least the way I see her, is frankly too wise and too driven by love to believe the word of a stranger over someone she's allowed so deeply into her life.

So, ugh, sorry if I keep repeating this little cycle. It wasn't until I was in the middle of writing this that I realized the other plan just wasn't going to work. At this point, I'm pretty sure the mice themselves are hijacking me every time I start to write something where they don't get along.

I'll getcha someday, ya little meeces. >:(

[limerental]

If i take really careful screenshots, this wip reads like the sterek fic it technically isn't

[azurescaled-archived]

Golly fucking gee, I love being expected to figure my life out after having nothing but people telling me what to do with it.

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

Hey now, Let her cook!

[shyce-overgod]

She open on me heimer til I go nuclear

[sparksol]

I don't post much of my own stuff, mostly a bunch of reblogs.

Sorry about that. Times are tough.

[knifearo]

being aromantic is like. hey btw you're going to live a life that is the culmination of most of society's worst nightmares. sorry lol ✌️ but then you turn around and take a really good hard look at it and it turns out that living in that nightmare is fucking awesome and you get to wake up every day and take that fear that other people have and laugh and hold it close until it's a great joy for you instead. and being happy is a radical act that you define instead of someone else. and you're sexy as fuck that's just a fact of life i don't make the rules on that one

[lotus-pear]

"i haven't worked you like a dog yet, as promised"

[rocketbirdie]

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