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imagitory · 5 years ago

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Okay...I don’t usually go off the deep end in political essays that often. If it’s a quick thing like “f**k Neo-Nazis,” then sure, fine, that’s easy. I don’t have to explain why Neo-Nazis -- especially the cowardly ones that try to label themselves as the “alt-right” in a vain attempt to seem more acceptable to modern society -- can go screw themselves. Everyone already knows they’re awful -- or at least, everyone should already know they’re awful. If you’re the sort of person that wants to try to “teach” me about how the alt-right are not Neo-Nazis, then this post isn’t for you, so kindly don’t interact and keep scrolling.

This post is instead for my Democratic followers, whether you support Bernie, Biden, Warren, whatever. Please feel free to skip over it, though, my dear followers -- I know this whole political season has been very draining, and I have a lot more positive posts on my blog that you can consult instead. If you do want to read my thoughts, though, here’s a cut.

Hi, guys. How’s it going? We really dodged a bullet with Bloomberg dropping out of the race, didn’t we? At least now no one should be able to say Democrats and Republicans are alike, right? The Democrats kicked their racist, sexist, obnoxious, out-of-touch billionaire accused of multiple sexual assaults to the curb, while the Republicans made theirs president.

On that note, though...we still have the Republican version of Michael Bloomberg -- the one and only Donald Trump -- in office. We all remember how he got there...Hillary won the popular vote, but thanks to the ridiculously outdated electoral college rules and Russian interference, the electoral votes went Trump’s way. We could conjure up multiple reasons for Hillary’s loss, but at least in my opinion, I would say we learned a few lessons from the 2016 election that I think we should keep in mind. (Alongside making sure Russians butt the hell out of our elections and fact-checking all the rampant misinformation from our media outlets.)

1) We Democrats have more things in common than we might think, sometimes.

Clinton was infinitely closer to Bernie, politics-wise, than Bernie was to Trump or Gary Johnson. Yet there were those who were so upset about Hillary’s nomination and the role Democratic Party officials had in coaxing delegates to support her that they protest-voted against Hillary, even if that vote wasn’t in their best interest. We don’t have a system that lets us rank who we want for office from most to least, so sometimes we have to accept a bird in the hand rather than reach for two in the bush. You might feel good about voting your conscience in the short term, but you probably won’t when it results in your vote being a drop in the bucket that doesn’t prevent someone like Donald Trump from winning. We’ve already seen this happen not just in the Trump-Clinton election of 2016, but in the Bush-Gore election of 2000.

2) Despite that first point, if we want unity, our Democratic candidate must be aware of how diverse our party is.

Even if we do end up having to settle for a less liberal candidate in order to win an election, that candidate MUST acknowledge that we are not like the Republican Party. We will not march lock-step with people we don’t agree with just because they’re in our party or we agree with some things, and we will certainly not be satisfied with simple pacifism. The Republican Party has been tilting farther and farther to the right over the last three decades, to the point that their policies now involve mass internment of Mexican immigrants and family separation, directly paralleling plans carried out by the THIRD EFFIN’ REICH. We cannot keep begging for civility and peace and trying to reach a compromise -- you cannot compromise with this kind of extremism without sacrificing all of your principles, because those kinds of people do not make concessions.

I remain convinced even after four years that Hillary should’ve chosen Bernie to be her running mate -- if she had, the rift between the centrist and more liberal branches of the Democratic Party might have been healed enough that we could’ve looked at our ticket with excitement and hope, as we had for Obama and Biden back in 2008. Instead Hillary chose Tim Kaine, an inoffensive centrist Democrat who added absolutely nothing to her presidential bid. He couldn’t even help Hillary out by boosting the campaign with youthful energy or natural charm -- Bernie would’ve both boosted morale among younger and/or more liberal voters and lit a fire under those who were anxious about what a Trump presidency could lead to. The same could’ve been true if Bernie had been chosen to be president -- if he’d chosen Hillary, she could’ve better appealed to moderate voters intimidated by the thought of voting for a Democratic Socialist and run on her international experience as Secretary of State.

3) In order to make any difference at all, we must vote, and we must win.

I’m the first person to acknowledge that I hate voting against my convictions. If the Democrats had chosen Michael Bloomberg, I would’ve probably been ready for whole-scale revolution, right then and there. But let’s be frank here -- in 2016, we got complacent. We assumed that Trump would lose. We assumed that America wouldn’t choose racism, or Islamaphobia, or sexism, or Nazism. BUT WE DID. In the end, our country -- like many other countries before us were -- is more afraid of the promise of social change than we are of the threat of fascism. Yes, I called Trump’s vision of the country fascism, and I stand by it. Fascism is defined as far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial authority, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy and often supplemented with government-sanctioned racism -- and yeah, given that Trump clearly wants to do whatever he wants whenever he wants without facing any consequences for his actions, persecute any so-called “enemies,” make money for himself while in office (even using his office and political power to achieve that end), and scapegoat minorities, I think my point is made. And so I will state it again -- America is more afraid of the future and the progress that could come with it than it is of the cruelty, bigotry, and tyranny of our past. It’s an absolute tragedy, but it’s true. Americans were absolutely terrified of Obamacare until it actually became law and people saw how cool it was, not to be booted off your care for preexisting conditions and stuff. Once that happened, Americans were ready to bite off the hand of any Republican who made any move toward repealing it. If it’s something we’ve never done before, it’s beaten back like the plague, but once it’s something we’ve become accustomed to, you can tear it from our cold, dead hands.

In the 1930′s, Germany had a choice between three political parties -- the Communists, the Democratic Socialists, and the Nazis -- and in the end, the reason the Nazis got power was because the Communists and the Socialists could not band together to stop that greater threat. The Nazis were able to paint a pretty picture to the German people of returning their country to its supposedly long lost, mythic greatness, and they won power, even if they were still not the majority when Hitler got into office. And as soon as the Nazis got power, they never let it go and went out of their way to destroy both Communists and Socialists, just like they did with Jewish people, the Romani, and the rest. We are at such a crossroads now. I am deathly afraid that the Republicans will try to find some way to keep power even if Trump were to lose, but we cannot let that happen. We must stand together, strong and united.

The more liberal of us must acknowledge that radical change cannot be put into place quickly. Our system is broken and falling apart thanks to the Republicans’ on-going sabotage, and we cannot hope to remodel our house until our foundation is secure. Even the Republicans were not able to destroy our country in so many ways these last four years without dismantling a lot of other things first -- corrupting our elections with money thanks to the Citizens United ruling -- sparking two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that drained us of money and added to the backlog of veterans that have yet to receive their deserved financial support -- intimidating political officials away from substantive gun control legislation -- chipping away at abortion rights nation-wide -- stacking the courts, both local and Supreme, with unqualified, strongly right-leaning candidates -- gerrymandering districts like crazy so as to split Democratic-leaning areas and puff up Republican-leaning ones -- even spreading misinformation through shows on their own private so-called “News” network. It will take time to repair all of the damage the Republicans have wrought, but we must first win if we are even to have the chance to try.

On the flip side, the more centrist of us must acknowledge that we cannot go back to the way we were because the way we were was WRONG. We might have nostalgic visions of it being more civil and peaceful, but the tremors of war were still rippling under our feet. The Neo-Nazi rats that elected Trump were gathering under us, and we let them. We let them gain enough confidence to come out into the light in large numbers and we stood by, assuming that they wouldn’t succeed in their goals. We ignored the rampant spread of anti-immigrant rhetoric and Islamaphobia -- we downplayed the racism, the homophobia, and the sexism. Sometimes it was due to arrogance, and sometimes it was due to flat-out indifference, because those things didn’t directly affect us. We should know by now that that rosy view of our past was not how things were -- just as many of our Founding Fathers were still slave owners, and America interned our own citizens in camps during World War II, and the supposedly great Ronald Reagan turned a blind eye while thousands of Americans died of AIDS, our country saw the signs of racism, xenophobia, and ultranationalism coming out in full again and didn’t fight back. And now that racist, xenophobic ultranationalism is in control of the Oval Office. If we have any chance of stopping them, we can’t simply go backwards -- we must charge ahead. We can’t simply pretend like everything can go back to normal -- we must accept responsibility for what we’ve done and pursue justice in making things right. We must fight back against these far-right, tyrannical policies and we must pay restitution to those our country has hurt. I do not want the Mexican families we have destroyed to be treated the way our Japanese American brethren were after they were released from the internment camps in the 40′s -- dismissed and forgotten, with our flag figuratively slapping them in the face every time some stupid guy crowed his head off about America being the greatest country on earth. I may have hated Trump’s immigration policy -- I might not have voted for him -- but he still represents my country, and therefore me, to the rest of the world, and even if he’ll never apologize for a single damn thing that he’s done, I want my country to make things right.

Maybe once a Democrat -- even if it’s a centrist like Biden -- is in the White House again, we’ll have the chance for real change -- good change. We certainly won’t get it as long as we’re stuck on the outside looking in.

Now of course, even when this whole presidential thing is done, we can’t rest on our laurels. We must get out in force for local elections too -- we must take back the Senate and keep control of the House. We must pressure our lawmakers to get the money out of politics, and fix gerrymandering, and restore environmental protections, and hold corporations accountable, and tax the rich, and abolish the Electoral College, and put term limits on Congresspeople, and impeach Brett Kavanaugh, and fund dismantling the backlog on VA benefits, and cancel student loan debt, and implement universal health care, and pass gun control legislation, and do all the other things we need done.

I really hope that whichever candidate we end up with -- whether it’s Biden (*sighs begrudgingly*), Bernie (*smiles*), or Warren (*wiggles in glee*) -- that candidate will strongly consider choosing a Vice President who is either more centrist (if they’re more liberal) or more liberal (if they’re more centrist) and filling their Cabinet with those other ex-presidential hopefuls who still have something to offer. Kamala Harris was Attorney General of California -- why not have her become Attorney General of the United States next? How about Tom Steyer as Head of the EPA, or Cory Booker as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development?

Here’s the thing about us being more diverse in thought than the Republicans -- it means we have a great swath of very different members with very different skill sets, as well as the ability to learn, critique, rationalize, change, and improve. And if we are to defeat an institution like Trump’s that demands lock-step, mindless obedience and praise, it seems to me that’s something we should use to our advantage.

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Are Any Republicans Running Against President Trump

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Are Any Republicans Running Against President Trump

List Of Republicans Who Opposed The Donald Trump 2016 Presidential Campaign

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This is a list of and who announced their opposition to the election of Donald Trump, the 2016 Republican Party nominee and eventual winner of the election, as the President of the United States. It also includes former Republicans who left the party due to their opposition to Trump and as well as Republicans who endorsed a different candidate. It includes Republican presidential primary election candidates that announced opposition to Trump as the nominee. Some of the Republicans on this list threw their support to Trump after he won the presidential election, while many of them continue to oppose Trump. Offices listed are those held at the time of the 2016 election.

List Of Registered 2024 Presidential Candidates

The following table lists candidates who filed with the FEC to run for president. Some applicants used pseudonyms; candidate names and party affiliations are written as they appeared on the FEC website on the date that they initially filed with the FEC.

Candidates who have filed for the 2024 presidential election Candidate

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The 2020 Iowa Republican presidential caucuses took place on Monday, February 3, 2020, as the first caucus or primary in the Republican Party presidential primaries for the 2020 presidential election. The Iowa caucuses are a closed caucus, with Iowa awarding 40 pledged delegates to the Republican National Convention, allocated on the basis of the results of the caucuses. Incumbent president Donald Trump received about 97 percent of the vote to clinch 39 delegates, while Bill Weld received enough votes to clinch 1 delegate.

Other Former Federal Government Officials

The Weekly StandardBill Kristol

Charles Fried, United States Solicitor General; Associate Justice of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court

David K. Garman, Former Assistant Secretary and Under Secretary of Energy

George Will

Steve Baer, former president, United Republican Fund of Illinois

Juan Hernandez, political consultant, co-founder of Hispanic Republicans of Texas

Matt Higgins, former press secretary for New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani

Stuart Stevens, political consultant and strategist

Mac Stipanovich, strategist and lobbyist; former Chief of Staff to Bob Martinez

Rick Wilson, political consultant and former Republican strategist.

Whos Running For President In 2020

Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. is the presumptive Democratic nominee to challenge President Trump in the 2020 race.

The field of Democratic presidential candidates was historically large, but all others have dropped out. Mr. Trump had also picked up a few Republican challengers, but they have also ended their campaigns.

Running

Has run for president twice .

Is known for his down-to-earth personality and his ability to connect with working-class voters.

His eight years as Barack Obamas vice president are a major selling point for many Democrats.

Signature issues: Restoring Americas standing on the global stage; adding a public option to the Affordable Care Act; strengthening economic protections for low-income workers in industries like manufacturing and fast food.

Main legislative accomplishment as president: a that chiefly benefited corporations and wealthy investors.

Has focused on undoing the policies of the Obama administration, including on health care, environmental regulation and immigration.

Was impeached by the House of Representatives for seeking to pressure Ukraine to smear his political rivals, but was acquitted by the Senate.

Signature issues: Restricting immigration and building a wall at the Mexican border; renegotiating or canceling international deals on trade, arms control and climate change; withdrawing American troops from overseas.

Ended his second bid for the Democratic nomination in April 2020, after a series of losses to Mr. Biden.

Sen Tom Cotton Of Arkansas

Cotton needs to work on his pushups. The 44-year-old senator did 22 pushups onstage at a Republican fundraiser in Iowa alongside Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and he barely had any depth. Grassleys werent any better, but he gets a pass for being 87 years old, and he runs four days a week. The contest was for a good cause: to raise awareness of the average 22 veterans a day who take their life.

Cottons remarks at the fundraiser were an early preview of what could become a campaign stump speech. He attacked Biden, critical race theory and China, according to in Des Moines. He also offered his full throated endorsement of the Iowa caucus, which is something candidates who want to win the Iowa caucus do.

Why should there be any change to the Republicans first in the nation status just because the Democrats cant run a caucus? Cotton said, referencing Democrats delayed caucus results in 2020. Iowa has had this status now going back decades and that develops more than just a custom or habit, it develops a tradition of civic engagement unlike you see almost anywhere else in the country.

Maryland Gov Larry Hogan

Hogan, 64, is a two-term governor and cancer survivor who underwent chemotherapy while in office. He was declared cancer-free in 2015. A moderate, Hogan told The Washington Post that he saw the 2024 Republican primary as a competition between 10 or 12 or more people fighting in the same lane to carry on the mantle of Donald Trump and another lane straight up the middle that would be much less crowded. Though he said it was too early to say whether he saw himself in that lane, Hogan wrote in his 2020 memoir Still Standing that members of Trumps cabinet approached him about challenging Trump in the GOP 2020 primary.

Sen Josh Hawley Of Missouri

Though controversial, Hawley, 41, is a fundraising machine and hes quickly made a name for himself. The blowback Hawley faced for objecting to Bidens Electoral College win included a lost book deal and calls for him to resign from students at the law school where he previously taught. His mentor, former Sen. John Danforth of Missouri, said that supporting Hawley was the biggest mistake Ive ever made in my life.

Still, he brought in more than $1.5 million between Jan. 1 and March 5, according to , and fundraising appeals in his name from the National Republican Senatorial Committee brought in more cash than any other Republican except NRSC Chair Sen. Rick Scott of Florida. Just because youre toxic in Washington doesnt mean you cant build a meaningful base of support nationally.

One Republican strategist compared the possibility of Hawley 2024 to Cruz in 2016. Hes not especially well-liked by his colleagues , but hes built a national profile for himself and become a leading Republican voice opposed to big technology companies.

Hawley and his wife, Erin, have three children. He got his start in politics as Missouri attorney general before being elected to the Senate in 2018. Hawley graduated from Stanford and Yale Law.

Who Are The Republicans Challenging Trump For 2020 Nomination

Only one candidate is now vying to defeat Trump for Republican nomination in the 2020 presidential race.

While the pool of Democrats vying for the partys presidential nomination was among the largest and most diverse in the history of the United States, President Donald Trump faced a much smaller cadre of challengers for the Republican ticket in 2020.

After two Republicans dropped out, only one opponent remains in the race against Trump. Thats in contrast to the three remaining contenders in the Democratic field, which once had more than two dozen candidates.

In a statement in April, the Republican National Convention said the Republican Party is firmly behind Trump and any effort to challenge the presidents nomination is bound to go absolutely nowhere, prompting criticism that Republican leaders are making it impossible for another candidate to succeed.

Here is a look at the now sole Republican challenging Trump.

‘the Stars Have Aligned For Both Parties’ Interests’

Trump employed a scorched-earth brand of politics throughout his presidency, and often undercut his own efforts. In 2019, he abruptly pulled out of infrastructure talks with Democrats as they started investigating his administration. “Infrastructure week” soon became a running gag referring to his repeated failures at passing a new bill.

Biden, on the other hand, is applying the opposite approach. He’s had an unyielding faith in bipartisanship and repeatedly sought compromise with Republicans. That hasn’t always panned out Biden muscled through a $1.9 trillion stimulus law earlier this year without any GOP support once negotiations collapsed.

Sen. John Thune of South Dakota, the second-ranked Senate Republican, serves as a barometer of where many rank-and-file Republicans stand. Thune pushed back against Trump’s recent criticisms, saying he believed each side’s political interests have aligned recently. Infrastructure has long been something popular with voters.

“I disagree with former President Trump on that,” he told Insider. “You want to celebrate successes no matter when they happen. It just so happened the stars aligned right now for both sides to come together on this.”

“As is always the case up here, timing is everything,” he said.

“I’m not sure the nature of his objections,” Cassidy said in an interview with Insider, referring to Trump. “Somehow, he says it’s a win for I view it as a win for the American people.”

Emboldened ‘unchanged’ Trump Looks To Re

The set of advisers around Trump now is a familiar mix of his top 2020 campaign aides and others who have moved in and out of his orbit over time. They include Miller, Susie Wiles, Bill Stepien, Justin Clark, Corey Lewandowski and Brad Parscale.

While his schedule isn’t set yet, according to Trump’s camp, his coming stops are likely to include efforts to help Ohio congressional candidate Max Miller, a former White House aide looking to win a primary against Rep. Anthony Gonzales, who voted to impeach Trump this year; Jody Hice, who is trying to unseat fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger as Georgia secretary of state after Raffensperger defied Trump and validated the state’s electoral votes; and Alabama Senate candidate Mo Brooks, according to Trump’s camp.

Trump’s ongoing influence with Republican voters helps explain why most GOP officeholders stick so closely to him. Republicans spared him a conviction in the Senate after the House impeached him for stoking the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, House GOP leaders have made it clear that they view his engagement as essential to their hopes of retaking the chamber, and Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., was deposed as Republican Conference Chair this year over her repeated rebukes of Trump.

Those numbers suggest that Trump could be in a strong position to win a Republican primary but lose the general election in 3½ years. A former Trump campaign operative made that case while discussing Trump’s ambitions.

What Makes The 2024 Presidential Election Unique

The lead up to the 2024 presidential election is different from past years because of former President Donald Trump. Hes eligible to run for a second term, and has publicly toyed with the idea while also weighing in on other Republicans he thinks could be the future of the party. If Trump does run in 2024, hed start out with unparalleled name ID and massive support, but if he doesnt, the field could be wide open for other Republicans hoping to win over his supporters. President Joe Biden said recently he expects to run for reelection in 2024.

Golden Trump statue at CPAC 2021 was no graven image, according to the artist

This early on, wannabe candidates must raise their profiles, show their commitment to the party, and raise money, one Republican strategist said, to get on peoples radars even when your candidacy is in a holding pattern.

Some of the most visible 2024 presidential candidates will surely flame out long before the Iowa caucus, and theres always the chance that the next Republican nominee isnt yet considered a serious player . Theres a million and one things that will happen between now and then that will shape the race in ways we cant now predict, but the invisible primary that comes before any votes are cast has started.

Heres your very early guide to some of 2024s Republican presidential candidates, based on early polling, interviews with Republican donors and strategists and results from online political betting markets.

Here Are All Of The House Republicans Who Voted To Impeach Donald Trump

Ten members of the GOP joined with Democrats in the vote.

President Donald Trump impeached for ‘incitement of insurrection’

The House of Representatives has voted to impeach President Donald Trump — making him the only president in American history to be impeached twice.

Unlike his first impeachment in 2019, 10 Republicans joined Democrats to charge Trump for the “incitement of insurrection” for his role in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol with a final vote of 232-197.

Some Republicans may have feared for their own safety if they voted for impeachment, Rep. Adam Kinzinger, one of those who voted against Trump, said. Kinzinger told ABC’s “Powerhouse Politics” podcast that some members of his party are likely holding back from voting for impeachment due to fear of highlighting their own participation in supporting the president’s false claims of election fraud.

Democrat Jason Crow, of Colorado, relayed similar thoughts in an interview with MSNBC on Wednesday morning.

“I had a lot of conversations with my Republican colleagues last night, and a couple of them broke down in tears talking to me and saying that they are afraid for their lives if they vote for this impeachment,” he said.

Here is a list of the 10 Republicans who took a stance against Trump:

Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill.“It’s not going to be some ‘Kumbaya moment’ on the floor — it’s going to be an awakening by the American people to hold their leaders accountable to their rhetoric,”

Intraparty Clashes Could Derail Midterm Election Efforts

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Donald Trump left office Wednesday, leaving in his wake a Republican Party that is out of power and divided, with just 21 months to unite before the 2022 elections.

Since Trump was sworn in as president four years ago, Republicans have lost control of the White House, the House and the Senate. In the last two weeks of his term, a pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol and 10 Republicans voted to impeach the president from their own party.

But Trump still wielded his influence over the GOP. After the Capitol attack, 147 Republicans in Congress sided with him, voting against certifying two states electors.

The 2022 midterms will be the first chance for the GOP to define itself in a post-Trump era. Conversations with two dozen Republicans, many involved in congressional campaigns, revealed a party divided over Trump, their midterm prospects and the state of the GOP itself.

When you talk to people about what we stand for versus what the Democrats stand for, were very unified, Florida Sen. Rick Scott, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said in a recent interview.

But GOP consultant Alex Conant, who has worked for Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, described a party in crisis.

Political disaster doesnt begin to describe how bad this is for Republicans, Conant said.

Ohio Governor John Kasich

Kasich, like Fiorina, also may want another shot at the job. He was one of the candidates Trump felled in the 2016 primary. Despite that, he has remained dedicated to his vision for the GOP.

“I have a right to define what it means to be a conservative and what it means to be a Republican,” he told New York magazine in October. “I think my definition is a lot better than what the other people are doing.”

Voters didn’t take to his philosophy in 2016; Kasich managed to win only his home state. But unlike other Republicans who have spoken out against Trump and seen their polling numbers subsequently drop, Kasich’s constituency has remained supportive, the Washington Post noted.

Kasich also appears to have shifted his position on another presidential run. Asked on CNN’s State of the Union in March whether he would look to primary Trump, he repeatedly answered “no.” A month later Kasich shifted, saying it was “very unlikely” he would seek higher office again.

Then in May, just a couple weeks later, he told Bill Maher he doesn’t know what his plans are.

“I don’t know what I’m going to do,” he said, talking about a 2020 run. “I’m going to keep a voice, but I can’t predict to youI never thought I would be governor, I never thought I’d go back into politics.”

‘it’s Making My Job More Challenging’

Previewing what to expect in November, states shattered mail-in voting and overall turnout records during primaries held since the pandemic started.

More:Michigan health experts urge voting absentee to reduce coronavirus risk on Election Day

Pennsylvania, which voted last fall to become a no-excuse absentee voting state, saw 1.5 million people vote by mail for its presidential primary June 2 nearly 18 times the 84,000 who did in 2016, accounting for more than half the overall 2.87 million votes.

“Let’s put it this way: It’s making my job more challenging,” Tabas, the Pennsylvania Republican Party chairman, said of Trump’s rhetoric on vote-by-mail. “I have to explain why … especially since I don’t disagree with him in large part, but it’s the law. That ship has already sailed.”

Reluctance among Republicans to request mail-in ballots could present a problem for the GOP if the pandemic intensifies in battleground states in the weeks leading up to Election Day.

Tabas said he’s not worried about it hurting Trump’s chances in Pennsylvania where he said Republicans would “walk over coals” to vote for Trump. “Even if there’s consolidation of the polls, even if there are risks because of the COVID, they will come out,” he said.

More:Atlanta Hawks to transform State Farm Arena into massive voting station for 2020 elections

Sen Tim Scott Of South Carolina

One thing Scott has going for him that other potential 2024 contenders do not is a bunch of their endorsements. Scotts up for reelection next year, and in an kicking off his campaign released last week, Republicans including Cruz, Pompeo, Haley and Pence all backed his candidacy. Scott is positioning himself as a Trump-friendly conservative. In his ad, he included a clip of Trump calling him a friend of mine, and at a rally for his reelection, Scott said he wanted to make sure this wasnt a centrist crowd after asking them to boo Biden louder, according to The State.

Republicans Not Named Trump Who Could Run In 2024

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A growing number of Republicans are already jockeying ahead of 2024 as they await former President TrumpDonald TrumpCapitol Police officer who shot Ashli Babbitt says he saved lives on Jan. 6Biden presses Fox’s Doocey about Trump-Taliban dealBiden says deadly attack won’t alter US evacuation mission in Afghanistans decision on another possible White House run.

While Trump has not confirmed whether he will launch a third presidential bid, he has repeatedly teased the idea since losing the election in 2020.

I’m absolutely enthused. I look forward to doing an announcement at the right time, Trump said earlier this month. As you know, it’s very early. But I think people are going to be very, very happy when I make a certain announcement.

But that hasnt stopped speculation from building around other high-profile Republicans seen as potential heirs apparent to the former president.

Here are nine Republicans not named Trump who could run for president in 2024.

Ron DeSantisBiden’s stumble on Afghanistan shouldn’t overshadow what he’s accomplished so farMaskless dad assaulted student who confronted him, police sayTampa Bay residents asked to conserve water to conserve COVID-19 oxygen supply

DeSantis came in second place behind Trump in the Conservative Political Action Conference straw poll in Orlando earlier this year.

DeSantis, who is running for reelection in 2022, also offered a preview of whats to come in his political future.

Rick Scott

‘i Don’t Like It But It’s The Rules’

Bishop, the Fond du Lac County Republican Party chairman, said the issue is more serious than the party establishment acknowledges.

“A lot of the inside Republicans, who understand politics and electioneering and work in the infrastructure, they’ll whisper to me that I’m right, but they don’t want to say it publicly because there’s a backlash,” Bishop said.

He said voters in the “most Trumpy towns” in rural parts of his county lack the nearby early voting sites like the state’s big Democratic cities have. He said mail-in voting is a way for Republicans “to offset the Democrats’ early voting advantage.” But not if they don’t take advantage.

“I think the president, not only is he hurting himself with his position, I’m terrified he’s hurting down-ballot Republicans,” Bishop said. “I think in Wisconsin, it’s going to be close, and I want to make sure all Republican voters are able to vote.”

Go big or play it safe? Electoral map widens for Joe Biden and Democrats but with risk

Bishop said he counters that “there’s actually no evidence that there’s more fraud with the mail-in balloting than the regular balloting.” They rebut with examples of people getting caught cheating, to which Bishop tells them, “You’re kind of proving my point. We caught them.”

“I try to go through it and why I think it can actually help us, but it’s not like a 30-second answer,” he said. “It takes me 10 minutes for me to explain it all and try to get people to understand why I’m pushing for it.”

Trump Challengers: 10 Republicans Who Could Run For President In 2020

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President Donald Trump faced down a crowded field of GOP presidential hopefuls in 2016 as a political outsider, but he could see a packed stage of Republican challengers again in 2020only as an incumbent this time.

Trump made few political friends during his ascent to the White House. He made headlines making fun of his competition, doling out nicknames”low energy Jeb Bush,” “Little Marco Rubio,” “Lyin’ Ted Cruz”along the way. The president’s diplomatic dexterity hasn’t noticeably improved much since taking office. Senators Rubio and Cruz have improved their relationship with Trump since his inauguration, but other lawmakers from within his party have emerged as outspoken critics, fueling speculation he may face a stiff presidential primary race in 2020.

Here are 10 Republicans who may challenge Trump:

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The Same Topic It Always Seems to Be

This was recorded in August 2016, prior to the election.

I: Okay, so the last time we talked, the political climate was…a bit different. It was at the end of 2015. Most of the candidates were still in the race and neither Republican nor Democrat seemed decided. Now we’re at a very different point in the election cycle. So we have Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee and Donald Trump, amazingly, as the Republican nominee. And I was reading over the past stuff from before and I agree with some of the stuff that I said from before, but then looking at it now, it seems…some revision is necessary in terms of what’s going on. I mean, one example I had was that I thought that people said, “Oh, Donald Trump is stupid.” Okay, well maybe they don’t understand exactly what’s going on, that he’s smart and he’s just using the system for his own gain. But at this point, it doesn’t make any sense what he’s doing, because he has the nomination. All of the stuff that he was doing to get attention and draw people to him, that is done at this point. He has no reason for all this other stuff at this point. Except to basically- It’s for his own personal gain, if anything. It’s nothing political anymore. So what’s your take on it?

D: On the current situation with Trump that is?

I: Yeah, or I guess the political spectrum as a whole.

D: Right, right. Well, I think we’ve had an interesting few months, to be honest. Moving away from the big “T-word” for a few seconds, the whole Hillary email debacle, there have been a lot of speculations, and a lot of forays on, apparently, the Republican side about, you know, fudging votes and having an inefficient or untruthful system. But I think we’re starting to see- I don’t know, this seems to have gone from the light-hearted sort-of unexpected entertainment of the earlier debates to a very dire situation on both ends. Because I think, at least the Republicans, or the conventional Republicans, are starting to realize that with this individual as their nominee, they are in a very awkward state because 1. This person isn’t even necessarily a politician as we know it. 2. This person, very clearly, has shown that the way that they have an audience at all is by essentially bucking the system, and not listening to anyone. So that almost kind of defeats being part of a party in a lot of ways. So I think- And also the Democrats, just looking at this from afar and realizing that, you know, this sort of thing can happen to a political party. And now they’re probably looking at their own structure and asking, “What can we do to prevent a Trump in our own party?” So, it’s really just an interesting scenario on both sides. I don’t know if it’s good or bad, but I think it’s definitely a tester of fortitude for both parties in a way.

I: I mean, in a way, you could argue that Bernie Sanders was the Democratic party’s Trump, but nowhere near as…extreme? I mean, he was very much calling out very big players, but he wasn’t ever divisive. He wasn’t ever destructive. He, for the longest time, was trying to avoid any criticism of Clinton, basically. It was just, “Let’s just talk about the policies. Let’s forget about the other people. Let’s talk about the problems.” And in that case, with that email leak, that the DNC actually rigged it so that Hillary did win, it leaves people in a tough spot, especially, because- Do you know the Vlogbrothers at all?

D: A little bit.

I: So, John Green came out with a video yesterday on the reasons why people don’t vote, and the number one reason that people had was that they didn’t want to pick between the lesser of two evils. And the only problem I have with that is- There’s the whole argument that, okay, sure, an individual vote doesn’t really matter in the long run, but it’s the aggregate number of votes altogether that matter. But at the same time, the only way that the whole “not voting because you don’t want to differentiate between the lesser of two evils”, the only way that would really make a difference is if no one voted. That’s required so that neither one is picked. Basically, if your whole idea is, “I don’t like either of them, I’m not going to vote”, whether or not you vote, one of them is still going to get picked. And so in the end, you really don’t do much. And your other option is possibly, okay, well, third party candidate. But if no third party candidate actually has your interests in mind, it’s kind of, again, what are you supposed to do? You’re again voting with someone you don’t agree with, which is what you were trying to avoid in the first place.

D: Yeah, yeah, it’s interesting. It kind of reminds me of some of the Bohemian-American movements of the 1960s, when certain people tried to make small communes and essentially abolish the need for money and a capitalistic system altogether within a small circle. And it’s this sort of thing where they thought that this would sort of take on because there was this principle behind it. Meanwhile, obviously, food was scarce and the quality of goods they had was probably very low, but it’s this idea that, you know, “Oh, if we’re not engaging in money, then the other people are going to be weaker.” But rather, obviously, because of the way that economic works, if you’re not engaging with this money, then technically it makes everyone else’s money a little bit more powerful. I’m not saying that that necessarily applies to voting. It does to a degree. But at the same time, you have to realize that it’s about being involved, not standing away from the situation. Because standing away from the situation, rather, makes the people who are involved all the more powerful. And if they’re people who you really don’t support, to a degree, then it’s a hard place to be in.

I: A vote has a meaning behind it. If you vote for Trump, that says I’m for Trump. If you vote for Clinton, that says I’m for Clinton. If you don’t vote, there is no way for anyone to know what your message is behind that. It could be, “I didn’t vote because I didn’t feel like it.” It could be, “I didn’t vote because I didn’t like either of the candidates.” It could be, “I didn’t vote because I just forgot about the election.” So, as far as anyone trying to accomplish anything going that way, they aren’t. But at the same time, what do you tell people who are in that situation? Because you can always do a write-in, but as people say with third parties and anything that isn’t either one of the two candidates, you’re basically wasting your vote.

D: Yeah, that’s been said a lot of times. But I think third parties do play, at least historically, an important role in a lot of ways because they show, I think, a growing demographic of people who are becoming not only politically aware, but more politically involved in such a way that they’re willing to not necessarily compromise their views and actually go with a very specific party that caters to those views. Because I know a lot of the people who originally, on the outset, supported Bernie Sanders are finding themselves trying to back Jill Stein because those people, from my point of view, who backed Bernie in the first place were very active voters, very active voter base. So I think, even if for example, Jill Stein gets maybe ten percent of the vote, I think that’s actually a very impactful thing, because it shows that 1. As a country, we have a sizeable enough population of people that are willing to get involved, so that when something- Or when there’s a political situation that’s in front of us, say another Trump, who’s actually possibly dangerous to the country, is on the voting bloc, then people can rally together and say, “Hey, we’ve done this before, we know how to get ourselves together and organize. Let’s stand for another party that’ll at least take away votes from that individual and hopefully keep them from getting into power.

I: But I think, of course, the dangerous candidate in question, I think Trump has said that he would see that as basically it being rigged against him. It’s the politicians I guess and whatnot that are scheming in the background that are trying to not get him into office, when it should be the people, the voices that say whether or not they should be in office. And so it’s a matter of how much control do we want the politicians to say in who leads and how much say do we want the people to have? As it is, we still have the Electoral College who decides, while the popular vote is a separate thing. But at the same time, the popular vote, while strong as a whole, each individual person can’t do so much, while the individual people in so far as the Electoral College or at the politician’s level are more powerful, I guess, per unit member. What do you think, as far as giving politicians power instead of the people to decide who rules?

D: Right, I think the United States is a very interesting country in principle, obviously, as a sort of successor of the British system, the Parliamentary system. But I’m seeing this as a sort of calling, because I remember when I was over at King, during the fall semester and the original debates were going on, at least the Republican debates. A lot of us actually came down to the common area, Republican, Democrat, we didn’t care, just to watch these people talk. And to actually discuss amongst each other and actually share our views. And I think that wouldn’t have happened without the debate being there. I realize I’m slightly going off on a tangent. I’m going to return to the original point. But basically, I think- I mean, a lot of people try and put words in the mouths of the founding fathers, but it seems to be that this system was intended to be a sort of balance of powers, because obviously if you have a complete democracy, then a demagogue can just take complete power instantaneously like that, which seems to be what Trump would like to happen. But if you have a small, you know, essentially Roman system, then you have the equivalent of a ruling elite, which can basically decide as a cartel what’s the best for everyone. So I think what’s best is a sort of balance and I’ve noticed that a lot of people, even though they seem to be relatively bored with local politics, are starting to become more interested in them because Trump has sort of acted as a trigger for at least the Republican party members to say, you know, “Am I interested in this guy? Am I not?” And typically, that’s just a huge calling card as to, you know, this person’s alignment politically. So in terms of that, this election is, I think, important also for the local, which is pretty much in my opinion the base of the entire American political system, the local representative system, because if people become more involved in that, then essentially the federal just follows.

I: I mean, you said that the American system basically came as an offshoot from the English system. It’s interesting, looking into the parliamentary system of other countries, that they are actually starting to head into a direction that’s more- What are they calling it, presidentialization? In a parliament, they don’t elect the Prime Minister directly, they elect a party and whoever has the majority or plurality of the seats in the house, they choose who the Prime Minister is amongst themselves. And what’s basically happening is as time goes on, it’s less about the party and more about what candidate that party is going to make as their Prime Minister. It just seems interesting that, for example, America is having more parties recently with Libertarian and Green, that we’re sort of almost heading in a slightly more parliamentarian way, while the parliamentary systems, those governments, are heading into a more presidential system. And I’m just wondering if there’s some point where it just reaches some equilibrium where they’re basically indistinguishable from one another?

D: So you’re saying, at least in the Western scale, a sort of globalization with a balance between this presidential system and this party based, Prime Minister system?

I: Well, the more parties you have in a chamber, the more chaotic it is. That’s why a lot of governments don’t like the whole proportional system, where it’s basically, if you have a certain percentage of votes, that’s the percentage of seats you get. And that’s nice in principle because then this many people of the country wanted this party, so they’re going to have some say in there. But unfortunately, you have so many parties that are talking at one another and who might not have anywhere near solvable or reconcilable viewpoints, and so nothing gets done. For example, the presidentialization of the parliament almost makes sense because since you have so many parties, it feels nice to have this one person you can say, “They can have the final word and unite,” whereas the United States, we’re having this constant polarization battle between either this person has all the power, or this person has all the power. And we’re saying, “Well, hold on a second, what if we add some more voices into it, we can actually sort of dilute this power struggle.” So that it’s not just this constantly teetering scale. And, yeah, it just seems that at some point, it going to get to the point where they are practically the same thing. And hopefully it stays there, somewhat balanced.

D: Well, the presidentialization of political systems is- I don’t know, I find it interesting because with, at least African politics, that’s always been a big factor. It seems to be, at least with those systems, the African systems, that the president is typically a simple figurehead for their respective party and, rigged votes aside and all that, it seemed to be the party that was in charge. And I feel like, at least in the United States, a lot of people have honestly, because of the gridlock situation, gotten fed up with nothing getting done. And I think the better question is what that something that needs to be done is? But that aside, people have gotten really frustrated with that, so I think, yeah, a lot of people are interested in trying more shades of political parties and I think it’s very viable to see a big third party.

I: I was talking with someone, actually, from Nigeria, and he’s in favor of constitutional monarchies over everything else. In America, the head of state and the head of government are the same thing. But in places like England or Australia and places that have parliaments, the head of state and the head of government are two different things. In England, you have- Oh, who’s the current Prime Minister? David Cameron?

D: No, it’s currently Theresa May.

I: Theresa May is the head of government, while the head of state is the Queen. And she’s sort of this figurehead for people to rally behind. They can look at her and say, “She represents my country.” And so while the head of government may come and go, you at least have this somewhat stable figure for people to rally behind. And the United States doesn’t have anything like that because basically every four years or eight years, that person is going to change. And, at first, when he said he was a fan of monarchs, I thought, like dictators? That doesn’t really make a lot of sense. But I kind of see where he’s coming from, to a point, but it’s always been one of those things that I never really fully understood, the importance of the royal family, from the perspective of- I mean, it would be one thing if it was a country mascot or something like that. Because that almost seems like it is. Like, welcome to England! Home of the British royalty! And you just have all of these people in these giant caricaturized royalty costumes and whatnot. Because it would be one thing if these were just somewhat normal people, like we decide we’re going to rally behind you. But these people live in multimillion dollar mansions. It’s all the tradition and history behind it that still exists there. The royal wedding is this worldwide, televised event. It almost seems, going back to American elections, the president feels more like the head of state than the head of government, in how much people pay attention to the individual themselves. Barack Obama, for example, there were so many pictures of- Here’s Obama laughing at a kid dressed like the Pope because he thought was adorable and cute. We’re rallying behind the president because we think he’s charismatic and likeable and a great guy. But it’s very little, “We like the president because he has good policies and things like that.” That was mentioned, that was talked about, but it really wasn’t the focus a lot of times. And another thing that people don’t like about Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump is that neither of them seem too incredibly charismatic, in a sense. And so, they’re thinking even less about the head of government, and more about the head of state section. “It’s not so much that we don’t like your policies. We don’t like that you would be our mascot.”

D: Yeah, that seems to be a really enormous part of the global backlash against Trump and the fear amongst a lot of, not even heads of state or heads of government, just average people in other countries about this whole election cycle. The idea of essentially the last standing superpower being represented by a billionaire madman, completely unpredictable, who appears to have a moving head of hair, or not moving in many case. But it appears to be a very demoralizing situation that a lot of people would feel would reflect badly on our country, and the people who obviously would enable such a person to be elected. But I do agree, it’s hard to detach that personality from this sort of “mascotization”-effect, because when you think of the sixties and you think of the political situation, a lot of the time, Kennedy’s face or Jacqueline Kennedy, you’re thinking about the political family that was in charge at the time and you’re thinking about that person’s personality and the seventies, with Nixon and conspiracies and all that sort of thing. I think it’s almost inevitable to think that way, but I would at least hope that that wouldn’t have too significant a bearing on how we, I suppose, choose our leaders, but unfortunately and obviously, it does.

I: What are your predictions? Let’s say the election comes through and- Well, we’ll do both. If Hillary is elected, what do you think the state of affairs for America in the next four years look like?

D: State of affairs? Politically, at least, I would say, essentially what she’s been saying. Essentially, more of the same, more or less. I wouldn’t necessarily know what her legacy would be, as in her focus, policy-wise. Because she seems to be more focused on essentially catering to the interest of, obviously, the cream of the crop of the Democratic Party, in a way, and preserving our current president’s legacy. So I would just generalize by saying more of the same, if I had to guess. Unless she went off on some interesting tangent, which I couldn’t personally see, but I would find interesting.

I: Alright, and then on the opposite side, predictions if by some miraculous, terrible miracle, Trump got elected? Is it as bad as people say?

D: No, I don’t think so. I think there would be a significant amount of gridlock on both sides. And I would also think that there would be some enabling factors on both sides, too, interestingly enough. I think that, socially, at least social policy-wise, I think we’d pretty much be going in the same direction, to be completely honest. I can’t see Trump actually acting on a lot of these social policy topics, like gay marriage and abortion. I can’t, honestly, see him acting on things like that because he just doesn’t seem to care, even though a lot of his base seems to find those topics important. Economically, I do see him possibly having some interest in NAFTA and other such foreign trade deals. As far as repealing them, it would be a very dangerous situation, but I don’t really see him working that much actually, so I don’t see that much changing, honestly, if either one of them get elected, to be honest. Interestingly enough. Although the mood of the country would change significantly, that’s what I would say would be the big change. And that mood could affect the next election. I think that’s my greatest fear of any candidate being elected.

I: I think that’s one thing with Trump. Basically, he has set a precedent that if you say crazy things, you can go pretty far. And people will vote for you. And so, it’s a matter of, if he wins- Actually, if he wins or loses, the fact that he’s gotten this far speaks a lot to its success. But as far as the mood, though, what are the respective moods?

D: Right, right. Well, with Hillary Clinton, I see a much more, I suppose, confident, older population. And by older, I don’t necessarily mean the Baby Boomers, I think more of our parents’ age. You know, fifty, sixty. I think that they would feel a little bit more secure in the political situation, even if it was gridlock, simply because of the fact that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton, the Clintons in general, are at least responsible for at least some amount of surplus in the nineties, of economic situations and general welfare. As far as the youth would go, I’m not exactly sure, because I think, democratically at least, there would be some backlash and obviously there would be some people who would be jumping onto, obviously, sides like the Green Party and other things like that. But I wouldn’t expect too much, just a, probably, general skepticism and pessimism over the election process. For Trump, I would say that the mood would be one of- I find it interesting that every time that Trump has said one of these outrageous statements, his political team has to scurry onto the media and figure out a way to-

I: Spin!

D: Exactly, to figure out a way how to spin what he said into something that’s not so abrasive, or seems more reasonable. And I think that that might be the entire mood of the country, to be honest. We’d possibly be finding ourselves defending ourselves, at least character-wise, from a lot of angles and we’d be trying to figure out, okay, so if this guy who got here isn’t actually representative of our values, then what is? And I think that that would become a big, big debate in the United States. Bigger than is it right now.

I: He’d be basically changing the zeitgeist, almost? Insofar that from here, we diverge into a different path, instead. I mean, it’s a matter of- I’ve argued that since people are voting for him, it means that there’s a fair population that shares his same beliefs, which means that there is a fair percentage of the population that this is not crazy, this is the way things should be. This is how the status quo should be. And so, if he does get elected, we could see a fork between the people who do think that and the people who think, “Well, no, not really.” I mean, nothing as extreme as after World War I, when people decided that all our values and everything that we’ve held dear to us are completely wrong because they made us do World War I. But something similar to it. The fact that our political system managed to vote this guy in means we need to change everything.

D: Right. I’ve been thinking about that. It seems that with the United States, when we’re thinking of where we’re going, we often think in terms of the past. And that’s reasonable, because most people think in terms of the past. You know, where am I going to be in a few days, as opposed to where I am now, a few years, etc. But the United States is interesting because it’s gone through so many distinctive stages that we actually name them by their decade. When people say the fifties, you think of suburban houses and nice cars and your white picket fence. You think of the sixties, seventies, eighties, you know, they all have their certain moods.

I: But isn’t it interesting how it’s only ten years that it takes for a mood to shift?

D: Right, and that almost seems to match the eight year shift typically attributed to a political party and their president coming and out of power. So, in terms of thinking about Trump in relation to this- I think I’ve lost the initial point, or the initial statement that you made.

I: It was basically in terms of Trump gets elected, how does it change everyone’s opinion on their worldview as a whole?

D: Right, right. I don’t know. It’s a good question. I feel like there would be an intensified tribalism between political parties, where people find themselves identifying themselves even more than they are now with their political party. Often times, when someone comes on the media, it’s in very small text, but you always notice by their name, there’s a D or an I or whatever political party that they’re attached to and I always found that interesting because, you know, at least as a slightly younger person, at 15, I was like, “Why even show that?” Because if they talk, well, we’ll decide if what they say is legit or not. But that can be a very significant deciding factor as to whether or not people listen to you or not in the first place. So, I think that it would lead to an intensified sort of grouping of people into their political parties, and this political party believes in this, this one believes in this. And we would see from there, essentially, the blame be shifted on whichever group, essentially, supports Trump the most. And they would probably be pummeled into some sort of either obscurity or self-destruction as, to a lesser degree, the conventional GOP has over the last thirty years.

I: Do you think the Republican Party is on its way out as a political party?

D: No, I actually don’t think so. I think the situation right now is one of fracturing, rather. I think we saw it with the Bull Moose Party, back with Teddy Roosevelt as well, a similar situation. But I think this one might be even more significant because now we don’t have a party separated really over- I wouldn’t say it’s really been separated over a candidate. I think Trump has just been more of a catalyst than an enabler for that. I think it’s more separated over principles and the message it’s trying to send. Because I found that a lot of the older Republicans are a bit more socially- At least policy-wise, they’re more socially careful as to what they say they’re values are and they seem to be a little bit more focused on the economics of what the party wants to get through. Meanwhile, it seems that these new neocons, as perhaps they may be called, are more focused on the values, and after the values have been fixed, everything else will come into play. So, if that’s the case, then it’s kind of one of those situations, almost, yeah, like you said, analogous to the Democratic Party and Hillary and Bernie. It seems that there’s one party that’s more focused on the structure, and then another that’s more focused on values.

I: Well, it’s pragmatism versus idealism, essentially.

D: Right, and that pragmatism has come under heavy fire on the Republican side. Paul Ryan, you know, who attempted to be a bridge, for a brief time, between Trump and the conventional Republican Party. But unfortunately, that actually backfired on him after, essentially, Trump calling him out. Eventually, Trump backtracked, but that didn’t actually work out for him. He got boos at his rally and it was one of those situations where you’ve made this personality, now you’ve got to sit in it. It’s not an easy situation.

I: I think, since we last talked, the media’s role has shifted significantly in their goals, I guess? Before, it seemed to be- It almost seemed to be they were along for the ride. Like, “Trump’s made news. Let’s put him in the news and whatnot, let’s see what happens.” And suddenly, when he’s the nominee, it’s very much suddenly, every media group seems to be focused on making sure he doesn’t get elected. And it seems to be one of those things where they are reaping what they themselves sowed.

D: I think, at this stage in election cycles, it’s convenient for stations to bring on people who represent their respective sides. So, I think a lot of that feeling is attributed to people bringing on people who are very anti-Trump, Republican or Democrat, and people who are very pro-Trump, and having them talk things out. But I think that with the media, it’s been interesting to see, at least for me, how often the name Trump is in a headline just in a day. And it’s just this consistent matter where if Trump is on, then chances are it’s high viewing time, or it’s prime time, or whatever. So it’s essentially an enabling factor to getting them views, in my opinion. I don’t think it’s necessarily much more complex than that. Yeah, as far as the political pundits who come on, it’s typical talking heads and people yelling at each other. But the fear mongering is interesting. I do find that an interesting factor in a lot of the discussions that they have. Not quite sure what to make of it, necessarily, apart from, “Don’t get this guy elected.”

I: This is a question I don’t know if people have asked, and it’s probably way too early to consider, but if Trump gets elected, does he get a second term?

D: I think the mere nature of Trump being elected would hit us harder than- No, I don’t think it would hit us as hard as his nomination, but it would hit us pretty hard. His nomination was certainly a blind sighting moment where the Republican Party did not see a lot of what happened coming. First, it was Jeb Bush who became his target and then I think it was Christie for a brief time. And then obviously, it went to Cruz and eventually he won. And Rubio even dropped out and there was this huge backlash, but it wasn’t necessarily against Trump, it was against- Yeah, I guess it was against the media. Because they found that a lot of the debates were centered around Trump and a lot of the candidates actually vocalized that concern. So, hey, if he gets views, I’m sorry but they’re going to him over you.

I: It makes sense for them, on their part, to do that. It would be ideal for them to be as neutral as possible, but neutrality is a goal, not a destination.

D: Right, right, but as for a second term. Wow, I can’t even- It would be- Within four years, I think it would be very interesting to see how not only the media, but how people perceive and start to see the media changes. I think that would be the most important part if he got elected, would a reelection happen. Because if the media’s significance continued in this situation, then it’s pretty much up in the air, to be honest, because either side could really take it at that point. But if the media starts to become as Trump would like it to be, not necessarily a servant, but more of a tool, and it didn’t necessarily have its own agenda, then I would definitely see a Trump reelection, if he did get elected in the first place. I could see a reelection possible, as a sort of perhaps character story that, you know, Trump has changed his ways and he’s becoming mature and he’s growing into the presidential role and now he can be the strong leader that you guys wanted and everything like that. And they could definitely spin a story like that and it could work. It definitely could work. So, it’d be interesting to see.

I: Is he self-aware about what he says? Going to the beginning of the last thing, I had said, “Oh, he’s not stupid, he’s smart and he’s manipulative.” But at this point, it just seems- I don’t the best way to describe it. It’s like someone that found out that they’re really good at something and then they just do it, all the time, regardless of context.

D: In fact, I almost liken it to playing Grand Theft Auto, in a lot of ways. And it’s interesting because Trump has come into this political party, which has already found itself fractured, as a sort of outsider who stands for the non-establishment, automatically. So, he came in like that. And if you think of it from that context, then Trump, I think, perhaps, sees it as a fling in a way. Because in reality, he doesn’t have much to lose. He’s essentially going to lose, one, his time, obviously, if he loses. Two, the money that he’s put into the election himself, which was a significant amount to start out with, before he got some financial backing. And three, perhaps some- Actually, he’d probably be more popular than he was before the election, to be honest, whether that be hated or not hated. As some people say, all publicity is good publicity. So he wouldn’t be losing much. In fact, he might be gaining some. However, the people who decided to politically align with him, or have, I think are in a much more dangerous spot. Mike Pence, for example, his vice-presidential pick. His role in conventional government, if Trump doesn’t win, I’d say is essentially over. The Republicans would probably put him on blast for enabling Trump in a way and a lot of the other people who worked with him probably wouldn’t see the inside of a political campaign again.

I: It’s almost very comparable to Sarah Palin. She just sort of popped up as a last minute, strange Vice President pick for McCain. And then for a few years after that, she was in the news for quite a bit as some sort of pundit for people to talk to and interview. And then at one point, I think, there was some sort of reality show or something with her? And then she left the governor position, and it was just sort of a half-life before she sort of faded into irrelevance. And at this point, she’s- That’s going back to the 2008 election. That’s been eight years at this point. So at this point, she’s basically irrelevant. But the time right after the election, she was still someone that garnered a lot of attention, even if it wasn’t all that much that she could add to the conversation. And I think that’s going to be something similar with the Trump supporters and politicians. Palin was never exactly a strong politician to begin with, and what these people will do, they’ll get some attention after the election, depending on who’s elected, but it’s the half-life of irrelevance after that. But because it’s Trump- I don’t think it’s something we’ve considered yet, is that even if he loses- Think of Sarah Palin, she still had attention after the election. Do you think Trump’s going to stop after he’s not elected? No, we’re never going to hear the end of him.

D: Yeah, I think it was a power vacuum that was bound to be taken by someone. There were a lot of frustrated voters, obviously, and, I think, the Republican side garnished the most frustration because, at the same time, they had felt that their position in the political realm was to stop the Democrats and to stop what they were doing and to return the values to a similar, more conservative era. And essentially what they felt was that their own political party wasn’t even serving those goals, so I think it was inevitable for someone like Trump to come along. The only question was how far they were going to take it. And I think Trump was the perfect candidate for that because in a lot of ways, I would almost like to see this whole situation as a small conspiracy theory. Because if I were a Democratic leader higher up, perhaps someone in the background, and I wanted the Republican Party- I was seeing some fractures, if I wanted it to implode from the inside, I’d say, “Okay, well, let’s look at the most volatile population here,” and then you see the neoconservatives who are very focused on this single message and I’d say, “Well, we can get someone who feeds on the wants of these people in a way that, one, he’s a strong leader, two, he doesn’t take crap from anyone, and three, after the election, as a bonus for him, he doesn’t really lose anything.” I couldn’t think of anything better than a billionaire in New York who essentially answers to no one, runs his own business and wouldn’t lose much by losing in a political cycle because he’s not even a politician. That would be the ideal person, and it seems that we got Trump.

I: That makes sense, and actually, if I had any sort of political power, the thing to do now would be to have some moderate candidate come up claiming to be a Republican or whatnot that says, “Wait, I can be your savior away from this maniac.” What you essentially do is split the Republican vote, and then it automatically goes to the Democrats. And this Republican savior doesn’t even have to be remotely Republican or anything. They just have to say things. It could be sort of a strange thing if they did wind up getting elected and it’s like, oh, turns out, nope, they were just a distraction more than anything.

D: Right, I think fracturing is a big part of the destabilization of political structures, and I think for the first time in a long time, we’re starting to see it in one of our two major parties. I think it’s important for- Even though we’ve never personally dealt with as a country, our change of powers have been relatively simple. I think it’s important to look at other countries, especially countries past and their unstable past and seeing how, with this fracturing, what happens after? What do you do with the pieces and how do you make sure that certain pieces of these shards aren’t going to become radicalized to the point where they’re essentially an untouchable bloc of people, which it happens. It happens a lot. It even happened to a degree with the War Hawks in the early 2000s. Nowadays, although the Democrats won’t say it, there’s a sort of stigma against people who backed the Iraq war, as these War Hawks who just sent these people off to die. You know, you wasted a lot of our money, but obviously, that’s not a big part of the discussion right now. So, it’s been an interesting sixteen years. Very interesting sixteen years.

I: The fact that sixteen years are relevant to this I think is something that people haven’t been looking at. I mean, in history, it’s really hard for things to be spontaneous. Things happen for a reason. It wasn’t necessarily that it was random chance. Not that things don’t happen by random chance. But there are a lot of things that happened because this happened, that caused that, and that happened because of something else that cause that, and this caused this because this. So you can look at the current situation we’re in right now and sort of trace back why exactly did it happen? And you can go back to 2000, you can go back to what caused the things, we can go back to 2001, 9/11, that had something to do with it. 9/11, the reason that happened, we can go back further to the Persian Gulf War and the Cold War. And it just goes back. The reason for the Cold War is essentially because of Communism, World War II…

D: Industrialization, we can back even before then.

I: World War II happened by World War I. And this because countries had alliances. It’s an unending tunnel as you look down.

D: It’s an interesting mess history is because in a lot of scenarios it seems, at least to me, that it’s almost like cleaning a countertop in a lot of ways, where these bacteria that you can’t even see. You know that they’re there and that there are a lot of them, try and spray a lot of them out. You will get a lot of them out. But unfortunately, some of them are resistant and they will come back in higher numbers and then you’ll say, “Well, how did this happen?” Well, it’ll be this small factor that you couldn’t even see in the first place, but hey, now it’s right in front of your face, so what do you do about it? You do it again. And then there’s another one, and it comes back, and it’s just this cycle that keeps repeating itself. But as far as that relates to America, I think one of the most important things about this whole Trump fiasco is the hat. The “Make America Great Again” hat. MAGA. That whole phrase. And the fact that even people who vehemently hate Trump will ironically wear the hat and will say, “Ha ha, MAGA.” And it’s this interesting thing where-

I: If you do something ironically, you’re still doing it.

D: You’re still feeding it, which I’m not saying people shouldn’t have fun on either side. You know, obviously, that hat is subject of corniness. It’s a very simple hat and it’s not very well designed. But at the same time, it’s this thing where you’re still giving him attention. For example, Batman versus Superman movie. Lot of bad reviews. People went into the movie knowing there were bad reviews, but they just wanted to see how much of a train wreck it was. They wanted to watch it ironically from a distance. But that still put money in the pockets of Warner Bros to make Suicide Squad in a not very different way? Which essentially enabled them not to learn from their mistake in the past, which leads to this cycle where, you know, “Why are they like this?” Well, because, whether you see it that way or not, you’ve enabled them to be. You’ve paid them, even to see their mess. And if they get paid enough to let you watch this mess, hey, they’re going to do it again. Yeah, so I think attention and the way that social media even works in the first place and the media in general is a very big part of this election cycle. I think people who have stayed away from mass media the way that we’ve been accustomed to it have a very different point of view on this election cycle, and I’d like to see what that point of view is.

I: Well, where would those people be?

D: I think a lot of them would be perhaps in more rural areas, obviously. And also, seeing how people in other countries see this election cycle, too, is probably very instrumental in evaluating it after it happens.

I: I mean, the interesting thing about this election is it’s not the first election to use social media, though it is a very important part of this, but, oh gosh, political memes.

D: Yes, memes.

I: It goes back to the old adage of, “Just because something is clever doesn’t mean it’s true.” And so you stick something on a picture of a frog and then you throw it out there and it’s something that people can rally behind. And because it’s something that enjoy, you can stick whatever you want on it. There’s nothing to do with election here at all. But it still manages to add something to it. I mean, for example, there was the whole Bernie/Clinton poster where it was like, “Bernie would agree with something everyone agrees with, and Hillary would do something that no one would like.” And it’s just like, sure, I guess this gets the feeling across of maybe what people feel about the candidates. But neither of these things have anything to do with the election. Bernie doesn’t actually going to give you homework answers and Hillary isn’t going to say, “I’m going to tell a teacher.”

D: Yeah, I think there’s this interesting principle that I actually picked up from the movie The Social Network as I was watching it. It was in the very early stages. Obviously, this is a somewhat fictionalized story. But the character of Mark Zuckerberg essentially said something to his partner, who is essentially funding the venture, he says something like, “We can’t monetize it yet. We don’t even know if it’s entertaining or if it’s good.” And the fact that that is the base before you bring in monetization, which is something that as its base, people would not be interested in at all. You don’t want your money taken from you, that’s ridiculous. But if it’s funny or it’s interesting first, and then they ask for money, eh, maybe you’ll do it. So if you apply this to memes and the way that humor in general actually affects peoples’ values and moods, it makes a lot of sense as to how if you have something funny- Like, it really could have been any characters with the Bernie and Hillary thing. But you chose to have it funny first, and then you put those slide on top of it. It’s almost an indirect way of- At least, the people who find it funny and the people who have read it and think it’s funny, they’ll at least consider in their head, because if you’re funny, or what you’ve made is funny, then chances are, they don’t hate you completely. Chances are, they think that they may have something in common with you. So then, when they see those faces, it’s like, “Hm, interesting, maybe I need to look more into this Hillary Clinton. Is Hillary a crook?” And then you start to get these leading questions and you go down this cycle. And I’m not necessarily saying that’s that way most people make their points of view, but I think it’s little moments like that which are very important and which also relate to how shows like the Colbert Report and the Daily Show have such relevance in our culture.

I: Well, neither one exists anymore.

D: Well, the Daily Show does. Trevor Noah, he’s in charge of it now. But it’s not even that. It’s also our late night shows as well. You have things that are “apparently” not politically involved like Late Night with Jimmy Fallon and you have shows like that where, you know, they’re supposed to not be involved. But then there are little hints of political leanings, here and there. Typically, they lean more towards liberal because obviously, as members of the entertainment business, they probably lean more that way. And it’s this system where, I think, as time has gone on, a lot of Republicans have felt that the system is rigged against them. And Trump definitely plays on that. So I think we’ve had a lot of factors to come up with this.

I: Well, a good example is Last Week Tonight. I mean, he had one episode of that which was entirely, “This is why you should not vote for Trump”, which, if that itself doesn’t give a clear point of view. But another thing was he did one on the Republican National Convention, and the next week he did one on the Democratic National Convention. And the Republican National Convention was basically how big a fiasco it was, and the Democratic one was basically the leaked emails about the DNC for half of it, and the other half was about Trump some more. And it was one of those things where people were like, “There’s very clearly not equal coverage going on for both sides of these things.” But I guess it just depends on what side you’re on, that you’ll actually take note of it and actually care. Because people that are Democrats will say, “Oh, he didn’t spend as much time complaining about the DNC. Oh well.” And then Republicans are going to say, “He didn’t spend as much time complaining about the DNC. This is bias.”

D: I guess people see what they look for, in a lot of cases.

I: These kinds of things, if you are on one side or the other, it’s not like this video was going to convince you to change your mind, anyway. It’s basically the people in the middle that are. And so, in that case, that’s when the bias really does affect people, is when they haven’t decided yet.

D: I definitely think that some of the recent events going on with entertainment in general are pretty important to people’s reactions to this political cycle because even on kids’ cartoons, I see references to Trump. And I find it interesting because these same cartoons do not show Hillary or Bernie or even Pence. Just Trump.

I: It’s a mascot.

D: Yeah. It’s a very poignant thing to do. I mean, whether the writers or animators know it or not, this is the one political figure you’re showing. So whether or not the kids have an already positive, negative or somewhere in between, or sarcastic or ironic impression of this character, you’re feeding onto that. And what’s also interesting is that there’s been a steady rise in the number of more politically retaliate comedians. I found this small group on YouTube called Million Dollar Extreme, and they recently got a show on Adult Swim. Now, the head of Million Dollar Extreme is this guy named Sam Hide and what’s beyond interesting is the way that he’s become popular. Now, it’s this system where- He’s not devised a system to become popular, but it’s interesting to see how I remember looking at a post by a friend of mine on Instagram, I think. And it was this double photo, two photos, side by side, of apparently the people who killed Alton Sterling. And one of them was Sam Hide, holding a rifle. And I said, “I know that Sam Hide did not kill Alton Sterling. One, he’s not a police officer, two, he does not live anywhere near the area where Alton Sterling was shot. And three, why?” But it was this thing where I was like, you know, just by having his name there and the photo there and him having a gun, you automatically have this political point of view of, “Okay, he hates black people,” or something like that. “He must be conservative, he must be this,” and then his name is there, so hey, let’s search him up. Oh, he’s actually a comedian. And it’s this thing where he’s sort of fed himself into a cycle of ironic meme-posting where this guy is clearly against the current political establishment, which I think we’re going to see more of those types of comedians come on, and I think that’s going to be a big part in the Trump base’s future relevance in our cultural conscience. For sure.

I: Alright, I guess this is as good a place to stop as any. Thank you for your time!

D: Yeah, no problem.

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