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Guardian of negative feelings
Nightmare belongs to Jokublog
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#art#utmv#nightmare sans#dreamtale#I really love dadmare#but you know what else I love?#nightmare but he’s so corrupted he doesn’t even ressemble a skeleton anymore#nightmare but he’s so far gone not even his henchmen recognize him#nightmare but he’s so engulfed by hatred that he can never feel satisfied about anything#uh yeah#anyways I love hurt/comfort
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Random hcs that have been on my mind for the past couple days: now in doodle format!
Text for each drawing written out under the cut in case it's not clear or anyone wants to translate it!
(1) <- Somehow soft?? <-Sometimes makes a comforting hum/rumble <-Holding for support
(2) <-Walks so quietly everywhere he goes <-Is about to meet god
(3) <-Can't see well in the dark (no eyelights) <-Can't help himself
(4) <-Thinks Color will turn Killer against him and convince him to run away
(5) <-Thinks Nightmare is using them all for the negativity and has brainwashed Killer into liking it
(6) <-Thinks if he runs and jumps at Cross as fast as he can Cross will lift him and it'll look so cool
#UTDR#UTMV#My Art#Horror Sans#Nightmare Sans#Color Sans#Killer Sans#These are all kinda random but at least I got something drawn today!!#I do really love the hc of Horror having that slasher movement about him#Because I have it too and I wanna share it with him#I can't stop scaring the people around me by entering rooms or walking up to them and I think he should have that too#It's almost always unintentional and scares him too when they suddenly yell#But sometimes... sometimes it's for funsies#Killer refuses to use a light of any kind even when he can't see so he's kind of asking for it#Also this is the short version of how I think Color and Nightmare are in a dadmare situation#They still have beef but it's like. they're both paranoid#They both think the other is gonna convince Killer to never see them again but it never happens#Maybe it gets resolved in some way but that's for another post#Also HorrorDust cuddles#Because that's the kind of nap I wanted to have earlier so I'm living vicariously through Dust#Also my first time trying to draw XChara! I hope I did okay!!#Trying to incorporate them into things slowly for Wick#Anyway I need to consider sleep goodnight gang!! :D
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The french learning is going well :D I've learned enough to be a menace to Nightmare lol
(Also I feel like he would know french, I don't know why cause I know dreamtale is spanish I just get that vibe from him)
Also!!!! Hello :D I hope you're doing well!!
the devious giggle that just slipped from me Dude jahjbfhsfhsf I love thissss I do feel like he would know a few languages so him knowing french feels like it fits arghhhh That's yourrrr boiiii your baby boi Nightmare you can't deny it hehe
I love Killer laughing that's so wholesome T T
Hii!!! hiii!!! I am doing well, I have to work on my portfolio still have no ideas but how are you? :D I also thought of more movies I want to show you, mainly into the wild if you haven't seen it
#I have a few others that I really really and that I think are like#good for culture?#But also I feel like they're a bit serious and not as silly as we usually do#like coraline was scary but so far we've only really talked about “kids” films#so y'knowww#love the art#Dadmare 4ever#answered asks#Charlie Somegrumpynerd
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Just wanted to tell you that i love your Nightmare and Fresh headcanons and personalities ^_^
I love how your Nightmare is such a menace 😭, i dont necessarily enjoy when people make him dadmare (to each their own ofc), so seeing this nightmare is so reFRESHing! I love how you show us his thought process too, its seriously so interesting to see how he thinks
Your fresh too! He's such a silly goober
Seriously, chefs kiss
Thank youuu! X]]]
[Not ship] [Just, so much yammering under the cut]
I am also, ahh, not the most interested in dadmare... I prefer when he is genuinely cruel and an awful person, because I like when characters are just the worst :-][I do feel like I sand off many of the hard edges though, even still... bad habit of mine, to try and make them more palatable hehe]
Also a reason Nightmare is so interesting to me is as a tool to show more of Fresh's characterization off. Most of what I see with Fresh is either ignoring how morally grey he is, or characters helping him get "better." Nightmare though, I feel like he could really show off and feed into Fresh's worst habits.
Nightmare would do very little to make Fresh stop being so existentially terrified of death, I think he'd even feed into it or try to make it worse; its useful to him, it keeps Fresh close. Nightmare is powerful, and if Fresh is so scared all the time, it means it would want to have a strong ally to protect it.
Also the lack of regard for others/using others in self interest. Extremely self explanatory, I think they are just enjoying meals together X]
I also think Nightmare treats Fresh different to the rest of his gang; the gang is useful in what they can do For Nightmare, and only producers of negativity second. Fresh, however, would probably not be a very public ally to Nightmare, and wouldn't provide that sort of thing. His use is in his own suffering, and the suffering of the host he's inhibiting. Which means Nightmare cares less for using him in more practical ways, and more for just Keeping him.
This leads to Fresh getting more special treatment, almost akin to pampering HAHA. Nightmare needs to show that Fresh would have a better time With him than Away from him. He has to balance what he wants of the relationship with the fact that Fresh is liable to bolt if He's not providing enough to Fresh. [And I think escaping, fleeing, is one of Fresh's strong-suits.]
Also sorry gahaha, you had such lovely things to say about my nightmare interpretation, but I just went off about freshi and how he's affected by the relationship.
#fresh#fresh sans#fresh!sans#nightmare#nightmare sans#nightmare!sans#fresh & nightmare#utmv#undertale multiverse#puppydraws#puppy barks#ukuban#also I always smile when I see you in my notes... you have been following me for a while... recognizable face [pfp] :-]
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Hiii I just wanted to say I love how you depict the goop boyo :3
Like.. He's certainly not soft but he does care. Anyway your art is really pretty!!! ^^
AWWW OMG
ANON, THAT MAKES ME HAPPY 💛💛💛
i never really think too much about how i depict the boys honestly,
i just love the found family trope sooo.
dadmare ehhehe
have a quick doodle ehehe 💫✨
#mitsusart#mitsuasks#anon#<3333#nightmare sans#dreamtale#utmv#ut au#undertale au#undertale multiverse#art#undertale#sans undertale#HEHHE#💛💛💛
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shakes you
head canons that make you insane about the bad or star sans?
okok this can be taken two ways
Insane as in AHHH I LOVE THIS
or insane as I'M GONNA HURT YOU
So I'll do both, starting with the first one.
Stars:
I find it amazing when Dream is given less innocence, but also isn't an asshole. I know this isn't really a 'headcanon', but the amount of times Dream is either some innocent toddler or an asshole is ridiculous. Like give him morals and stuff that he might lash out at but come on.
Dream having possession of something that reminds him of Passive Nightmare, a journal or some pictures. Maybe something like Basil's photo album from Omori.
When they aren't all assholes... AHHH I LOVE IT. I know this is the bare minimum but the stars have been butchered by the fandom so badly ☹️
Ink knowing about some AU details, but not all. It's more interesting, he may forget some of it anyway, as he's very forgetful.
Swap not being yandere.
Them being friends, I don't like them having drama, or at least if they do they can ignore it to protect the multiverse.
Most of my headcanons focus on the bad sanses since that's how I maintained my interest in the fandom. I've always preferred villains in stories. There's probably more I'm just not remembering. I know theres more it's just not coming to mind
Bad Sanses:
Dadmare is a headcanon I have always LOVED. it's not my main au, so depending on how I want a story to go, I may adjust characters, but Dadmare is a guilty pleasure.
Headcanons that delve deep into the mental of them. How Horror is mentally, Dust is, Killer is, Cross, error etc.
Speaking of that, Cross being a part of the bad sanses is a must, or he must be at least aligned with them (I'll discuss what this means in another post) and Error must occasionally work alongside them, and would have a room at the castle.
BRO I could yap for ages oml.
A general idea that Horror, Killer and Dust cancel out each other flaws. Horror is amazing physically, Dust is amazing magically, Killer is a mix. They all balance out another. Like I'm not saying Horror is gonna wipe the floor with with Murder, but he would certainly stand a chance, and given a chance, would easily win. Killers a Jack of all trades, hes fantastic magically and physically, but doesn't specialise. However since he has both he can use his skills to confuse apponents.
Silly Killer is funny.
okay this is actually kind of hard to write about. I can do bad headcanons easier. So in no particular order:
Making Fell abusive towards Lust
Making the Fallen Starts exist... I've seen them properly executed less than 5 times.
Making Horror act EXTREMELY feral (I do like it, but there's a line... and people treat it like a fucking jump rope.)
Making Nightmare extremely horrible. I don't mean he has to be a dad, but I personally have a limit, I like the angst, it's just not what I'd personally have in my AU.
The Bad Sanses becoming 'good', maybe they're not as bad as people thought, but making them good I don't like.
I think my least favourite headcanon of all time would probably be like Classic being on the star sanses.
I LOVE MY BOY CLASSIC OKAY. AND I WANT HIM NEUTRAL. And when he joins the stars for some reason he veomes super emo and depressed and shit and suddenly has an alter ego like this is some Jeckyl and Hyde. I don't like him being on the star sanses AT ALL.
Okay I'm writing these so Im forgetting them... I'll update if I remember anymore.
but my fav one I love to see.
is where classic IS one of the MTT. Classic is Dust or Killer mainly.
CAUSE OMG
the stories you can make. the animations you can make. THE ART. oh my lord. guys
😼 Heh. if you're struggling for ideas on what to draw yknow 😉😼 there's an idea 😊😊
#gayhorrorsans ask#gayhorrorsans#dust sans#horror sans#sans#sans au#killer sans#nightmare sans#error sans#headcanon
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HC’s abt what happened to Color Sans after Othertale was discontinued below!!!!
In OtherTale canon, Color sans absorbed the human souls to help him stop a genocidal Frisk.
Color still got killed trapped in the void after a glitched reset.
He was trying to help his Undyne, who had taken his place in the narrative, fix everything.
Then one day, everything stopped. It all froze and crumpled into nothing. Color only survived because he was in the void.
(Ink would later explain to him that what happened to his world was something that he’d only seen once or twice before, where an AU’s creator cuts it off— discontinuing it. Theres nothing you can do about it.)
Color was stuck in the void with only a goopey gaster to talk to and the human souls. But then he figures out that he can make portals!
He desired company that would understand what he’s dealing with. And so the first place he ends up in is Killer’s world.
Fun!
Because he didn’t know how to go any other places, he hung out in Undertale Something New every now and then. Just so he wouldn’t go CRAZY.
Back then, Killer’s stage-2 killer was actually insane, but while in stage-1 he and Color got along!
Killer’s Chara had been killed by him and his world’s ‘story’ had completed— he couldn’t reset it.
Color and Killer became really close after like a year of it just being them.
Then Nightmare rolled up to Killer’s world, his negative aura (accidentally) and immediately putting Killer on stage 2.
Nightmare offered Killer a job, and killer accepted! It would take YEEEAARRRSSS for him to stabilize in stage-2 enough to realize that he left Color behind.
Color was so so so worried when killer just disappeared.
Killer disappeared, just like everyone else Color loved did. He felt like he failed to save his loved ones all over again.
Eventually he was found by Core, he moved to the Omega timeline, he found out that Killer was working for Nightmare.
Color assumed Killer was forced.
Meanwhile Killer, Dust, Horror and Cross were having a jolly old hurt/comfort time! I subscribe to Dadmare headcanons, sorry canon nightmare 🤧
Anw Color, with the enthusiastic support of the human souls, swore to help Killer get free.
#this is me loving Color and Killer’s story but also wanting Dadmare#color sans x killer sans#killer sans#killersans#Color sans#Colorsans#colorkiller#utmv#undertale multiverse#undertale au#undertale fandom#underverse#sans#othertale#Othertale sans#something new#Colour Sans#Coloursans#Colourkiller
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I am SURE this was asked before, but what is your opnion on dadmare?
Yep, I answered this in detail here
But to give the tldr
I don’t really like how the trope is portrayed within the fandom as it immediately goes to generic tired dad Nightmare trying to control his rowdy kids, plus the infantilization of +30 y/o men who are cardboard cutouts of their selves who unironically call Nightmare “dad” just isn’t for me
I’m all for found family and the Nightmare gang being a close knit who genuinely care for each other, I’d just love to see it portrayed in a better more meaningful light
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Okay so I have religious trauma and common coping mechanism is using your hyperfixation/s to explore trauma and stuff right?
Well Killer was made by an Arab creator and since we love creating casual versions where everyone has the heritage of their creator (i.e. Cross being hispanic, Dust and Farmer being Korean, etc...)
I... Also... Gave Killer religious trauma, or just a sorta cultural tradition kinda trauma because I just can't see religion existing in their world, it can, but I don't want it to be among our sillies at least (So at least background characters can still be diverse in that way)
I'm talking about this because I found the beginning of an old comic I was doodling on some paper a long time back, so lemme relay it over text for you guys
(Also note, I don't personally think of Horror as the cook of the group but I did it because I wanted the cute domestic feel that some people have their sillies in and it was a comfort comic at the time for myself so I didn't care about being accurate to my interpretation of them because I was already giving Killer religious trauma anyway, this is essentially just a comfort concept:)
[Killer casually walks by the kitchen while Horror is making something, Dust is sitting at the table in the kitchen on his phone or something]
H: "Hey Killer, wanna come try this real quick-"
[Killer speeds past and pretends to not have heard him, while walking by the viewer can see he visibly got a little tense/nervous]
[Horror is concerned and looks out the entrance]
H: "'M worried about 'im, Dust. He's been avoiding the kitchen since mornin'."
[Dust looks up and shrugs it off, not that he doesn't value Horror's concerns, but doesn't value Killer's bad behavior]
H: "Do you think it's my cooking?" [He said at the end of his short rant]
[Dust gets a little annoyed that Killer's behavior is making Horror overthink this]
D: Look, your cooking's fine, Killer's just being an ass, he'll be fine.
[Dust probably comes off harsh or dismissive because he probably wouldn't be good at comforting, Horror gets the sentiment though and that's all that matters]
I never finished the comic but the idea was that Killer was fasting secretly and eventually his behavior was noticed, I didn't really have an idea for the ending but I imagine he gets confronted about it eventually (I assume with dadmare present) and maybe the beans get spilled and they support his progress 🥺
Literally only made this as a comfort doodle because I was just done fasting I think and it's nice to have this y'know, but really I'd never subject any of my sillies to religious trauma (Unless it's plot relevant or makes sense because I remember seeing a multiverse where DreamTale's village left some religious trauma on Dream that subtly affected his mental health, so it was hard when she got older and discovered herself (Yes, Dream got she/her-ed and everything), and like y'know, stuff)
#mzm rambles a lot#utmv#sans au#undertale au#utmv au#fandom#ut au#ut aus#sans#au sans#au sanses#killer!sans#killersans#dust!sans#dust sans#murder!sans#murder sans#horror!sans#horror sans#undertale fandom#utmv headcanons#headcanon#utmv sans#bad sans gang#bad sanses
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I have like 99% of certainty that you already answered asks like that (and i feel that i was one of them that asked this lol), but beside the chromatic crew, who are the others sanses that you like?
The Abyss Team; Beats (especially, I made an archive blog for their AU Underbeats), and the others I only know a little about because I’ve been procrastinating reading their stuff but from what I do know so far I like them. (Mecha, Abyss, Kin, V, Ganz.)
Cross. I don’t think I’ve seen all the canon Xtale stuff yet, but I’ve watched Underverse, the Xtale animation movie thing, and read a few of the comics. He’s silly and i really love the humans (frisk and Chara) especially. Already apart of the chromatic crew but might as well mention him.
Ink. Goober. I love their lore and their personality.
The Apple Twins..I’m chill with Dream and Passive Nightmare, but im not really sure how I feel about the corrupted Nightmare.
I don’t really care for Dadmare or Fanonmare, I find them overdone and boring, and yall already know how I feel about most fandom portrayals of killer and nightmare’s relationship and the killermare ship.
Zero complexity or nuance at all, or those people who think one sided killermare or “mutually toxic” killermare is somehow complex in any way.
I guess you can say I like signanothername’s version of Nightmare (and his relationship with killer and Dream and ccino and even color) a bit more than the canon.
I guess it’d be easier to say which Sanses im familiar with but am not yet strongly attached to or invested in and which Sanses I hate rather than ones I like. Only Sans I’ve come close to hating is Nightmare for various reasons.
Most others Sanses im ���okay” on. People like Fresh (read his doc should do it again), Ccino (also read his doc), Geno (haven’t finished reading Aftertale yet), Reaper (finished Reapertale just need to give a re-read and refresh my memory sometimes), Error (haven’t fully read his canon), Paper Crane (haven’t finished), Horror and Dust (read the Horrortale comics and went through a bit of the doc for Dust/the official acc. Need to do it again.)
Also Swap and Sci Sans.
#howlsasks#qin qin16#utmv#sans au#sans aus#killer sans#color sans#reaper sans#fresh sans#nightmare sans#passive nightmare sans#dream sans#horror sans#dust sans#murder sans#paper crane#beats sans#abyss team#mecha sans#abyss sans#ganz sans#v sans#kin sans#ccino sans#geno sans#error sans#cross sans#epic sans#delta sans#ink sans
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[Mod note: Anon’s warnings for this confession are “[TW for mentioned abuse and manipulation.]”.]
Transcript: [TW for mentioned abuse and manipulation.]
I really can't stand Dadmare, Bad Sans Poly, Nightkiller, Blue joins the bad guys, and any Nightmare&MTT+Cross combination as romance or family no matter how AU the AU is. If a Gang fic has a good Nightmare I'm fine. If it has a flawed boss Nightmare who cares about his underlings but doesn't treat them like his children I'm fine. If the MTT and Cross see each other as family I'm fine. Nightmare as their dad or in a romantic relationship with anyone in the gang is a huge no for me. I think the reasons why I really hate Dadmare and Gang romance is that My first exposure to Nightmare and Killer was through the something new comic where Nightmare stabs Killer through the chest and manipulates Killer's soul as he begs Color to help him. My second exposure to them was the something new comic where Killer escapes Nightmare with Color. So many comments FELT BAD FOR NIGHTMARE and tried to DEFEND HIS ABUSE OF KILLER instead of showing any joy that Killer got away from his abuser. Some also said Killer shouldn't have left Nightmare like Killer owed it to Nightmare to stay. WHAT. That turned me away from Dadmare, Nightkiller, and any romance or family dynamic with Nightmare and anyone in the Gang. They make me very uncomfortable so they are blocked where I can block them. I'd love to have an way to block keywords on sites like youtube and ao3 like I can on tumblr. People don't always tag things and I don't want more Dadmare or Nightkiller in my recommended because I watch other Gang comic dubs. 😭
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WARNING! DREAMTALE RAMBLE INCOMING!!
I personally am both a Canon Nightmare and Dadmare enjoyer. Both have different concepts and outlooks that are just so interesting for me. And I think it’s important to note to people who get upset at how others see him is the fact that Joku was an inconsistent writer for both Dream’s and Nightmare’s characters. (But I can go deeper into that in a different post)
Whether post-apple-incident Nightmare is the same person as before, corrupted, possessed by that one dead human, an eldritch creature born from negativity, or some split personality type shit. It doesn’t matter to me! I collect them all like Pokémon!!
What I really wish is for people to learn some canon facts that I find super interesting! Because I personally love doing deep dives into Dreamtale and am done holding myself back from info dumping like a maniac!! For example, this is an actual line from the comic that I think about way too much:
“But where did the tiny guardian go?
Inside of the mind of that thing there was an encounter. Nightmare was crying while the viscous person was hugging him, it was himself, telling him that he would protect him from everything.” (Source 1)
Like, Dadmare real??? He freaking HUGS him it’s so sweet!! In the context of canon it could also show how great a manipulator Corrupted can be right from the very start, having Night let down his guard and give in in order to take full control in the moment! Both are very interesting ideas to explore!!
Another example (yes another I know) is this other interesting fact I’ve found.
“Memories of the bullying often harm him: whenever he sees a lone person being beaten up by others, he will be reminded of what the original went through, this making him mindlessly kill the assailants.” (Source 2)
The fact that this is canon proves that a part of him is affected and triggered by his past. This is even shown to affect him so much that he not only breaks his no killing rule, but he also saves someone else (albeit quite violently). Take this information how you will.
I’ll end my rant here, and if you made it to the end I applaud you. This is sorta a continuation of my previous post here. There is still plenty I would love to talk about (the canon endings, Lore, etc) and I can make this into a little series if anyone would want! Oh, and I’ve linked the sources into the comments if you’re interested!
#utmv#utdr#undertale#dreamtale#canon Dreamtale facts#text post#analysis#infodump#dreamtale nightmare#nightmare sans#undertale au
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The funny thing about dadmare is that Nightmare has no idea what a parent-child relationship is like because he effectively didn't have one. So when someone tries to tease him by saying he's being a dad and he denies it, he's being 100% honest
#UTDR#UTMV#Dadmare#''I am not acting like a father'' bro you have no idea what that would look like how do you know#What are you imagining when you think of a parent#I would love to know what it looks like in his head#Dream also doesn't really know (he has a slight idea because he probably interacted with parents of kids from the village)#But he just likes teasing Nightmare for having friends#Like you liiiiiike people! You're haaaaaappy~!#Ruining his very professional edgy persona. rude.#Anyway one more day of work!! god please let me survive it
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I really love the concept of the bad sanses found family & Dadmare is there any fanfic of that?
Howdy, thanks for asking! Here are some fics that might fit what you're looking for!
A Little Problem by Clichely (Teen And Up, Incomplete)
Nightmare's gang have turned into children..and Ink's there, too, I guess.
Nightmare and his baby gang by Ehawee (Not Rated, Incomplete)
Today was a good day, their raid went perfectly fine and they got everything they needed without the Stars sanses coming to annoy them, he even had some quiet time when they got home. Why did it have to end like that seriously, Nightmare could really have appreciated that the good day lasted, at least until the rest of the damn day.
walk into my mystery, step inside and hold on for dear life by Ghosts_Multiversal_Mindsoup (Teen And Up, Complete)
Nightmare knows there's something in his castle, he knows. He catches glimpses of shadows in the corner of his eyelight. He sees blurs of motion that disappear when he turns to look. Nightmare knows there's something in his castle. But he can't find it. He can't find them. Or: how Nightmare adopted Killer into the bad guy gang. Oh, and found a better alternative to using the stairs. (Title from: I Am All of Me by Crush 40)
Melodic by artsycloudysleepy (General Audiences, Incomplete)
The DreamTale twins can sing people to sleep using their magic. Nightmare does this to the others seven times, and one time a certain someone returned the favour. (AKA a 7+1 fic!) (Old writing made during my writing block! Publishing so I can work through it, but I'm not 100% happy with how it turned out. If it's varying in quality, you know why.)
A Sweet Mistake Was Made by Vlixo (General Audiences, Complete)
Horror got sent to Candytale and came back with an absurd amount of candy and a soft sugar rush.
#fic rec#fic recommendation#ao3 fic recs#utmv#nightmare sans#dadmare#bad sanses#bad sans gang#not suitable for minors#ask#mod sleepy
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I'm gonna be anonymous when I say this because I have seen this done by many people... I strongly dislike the "Error and Nightmare gang are the good guys and trying to make the universe stable while The star sanses are the idiots who will not see reason" .. Like... I .. really? I'm not sure if the reason why I don't like it is because I have seen it so many times or what but it annoys me dearly. The members of the star sanses are reasonable and they are just often made as one sided ignorant people- I mean okay Lets go on the different pov, on the bad sanse side: You see them risk their lives every day getting themselves hurt over and over again all to defend different worlds for the sake of bringing what they believe to be peace and you label them as the fools who just want all the glory- really??? people who get hurt over and over again just do it for that stupid reasons??? I mean come on! Seeing as generally it is shown that the bad sanses want peace as well why not be trying to reach an agreement??? you fight over and over again and you couldn't even be bothered to try and reach their heads to finally listen to what you are saying like what "in a way" dream has done with nightmare countless times but they cant do the same? Just have them fight knowing that the other side are in the wrong and you choose to do nothing but break them?? Like is this your pride or something?? Why are they labelled as good guys yet they allow the other side to fight to their deaths with a good motive in mind but they only lack the full picture?? How am i suppose to "root for you" if this is what you do????? We get inside information of how peaceful they are and how they care for each other deeply, but if you care so much for each other why would you allow the other side to keep fighting your loved ones when they are missing the big picture, you know the big picture yet you say... NOTHING. NADA. ZILCH!! you cannot tell me that they don't listen to you when you barely speak up about the true issue or find a way to show them- you maybe say it once or twice in the whole story and then any other time you go straight to fighting or just avoid them.. COWARDS!! ALL OF THEM!! And in these stories the star sanses always state their reasons for their interference yet you cannot tell them why you are doing this?? All that comes out your mouth are insults and sneers, who would want to believe you when that is all the comes out of your MOUTHS... Excuse me... Just pissed sorry for the long rant.. Oh my gosh AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON DREAM AND NIGHTMARE, DUDE YOU GOT THE BALLS TO BLAME YOUR KID BROTHER FOR BEING A KID AND NOT RECOGNISING YOUR TRAUMA EVEN NOW AS YOU ARE MUCH MORE MATURE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALIZE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU BOTH AS CHILDREN????? Is he the one holding onto the past or is it you??? Night is always depicted as the dadmare, boss, the caring lover, the brother yet he doesn't even have the decency to face the fact he abandoned his brother in stone for 500 years or so, when he comes out you automatically hate him for something he had no idea or control of and choose to ignore his pleads, when your brother wants to reach you, you break him over and over again not wanting him in your life ever again when as i said before he was your "KID BROTHER" and you want to tell me your the good one for just wanting to cut him off with no answers or anything? You gotta be pulling my leg bro... and it would be a different story if the dreamtale background is different but no! it isnt! nothing is said to make it seem dream was an abuser of sorts, they were both hurt and yet you blame dream for all of it you have a whole ass support system yet that is your mindset??? I cant.... I really cant Uh sorry again for this long ass rant though =w=
anon our souls are holding hands resonating as one
my two cents on this (that isn't something i said. a million times before already) is that it's usually because people refuse to see the star sanses in the same light they do the bad sanses the people who actively dislike the star sanses and what they do usually do so because they can't relate to them, from what i've noticed
the bad sanses are easier to root for because of the fact that they are made of struggle and the dirty, gritty parts of morality and life so to say it's easier to think of good things in the middle of so much bad, because it's in our nature as people to look for hope or root for the good, no matter how little it is having the ability to look for goodness and love in so much evil is a form of love in of itself everybody struggles and life sucks and sometimes the world is evil and sometimes we do bad things, but that's the thing, the fact that we as people find something good in the middle of it all (like finding familial love bloom in the bad sanses, as an example) is very inspiring. at least to me!!! that's how i see it!!!! that's how i like to think people see it as well because that's how i see and enjoy them together so i can totally see why people find more relatability and love for the bad sanses. i really do get it and i agree!! like a lot!!!!! i love them too
but that exact reason is also why it really sucks that people just don't see the star sanses in the same light?
i wanna reemphasize my point in relatability: it's difficult for most people to relate to the star sanses because inherently they are the heroes, the protagonists, the main characters, because nobody are any of those things i feel like people often put them on a pedestal because of their central tropes and characteristics. they have it all already, they don't need more praise, right?
i think the biggest problem people have with the star sanses, like your whole ramble very clearly shows, is that they don't humanize them i feel like a lot of people assume that just because they are good and choose to be good and are praised for being good, they are unreachable people don't think they struggle. that it sucks being that.
it's often why i like writing the star sanses with so much struggle and so much mental illness lol, because being good is fucking HARD and they're as imperfect as everybody else. dream is anxious, ink is brash, blue is a workaholic, stuff like that
there's a lot to say but it's just....the bad sanses and the star sanses are two sides of the same coin. the bad sanses is finding good in the middle of, basically, evil and misdeed the star sanses is finding struggle in the middle of trying to do good
people often portray both of them black and white morals and it's why it gets frustrating and flat and badly written.
idk, just like how i find inspiration in the bad sanses of finding hope and love in the middle of darkness, i really admire the implications of the star sanses when you actually decide to humanize them. because if you make the star sanses struggle throughout their praise, glory, and righteousness, it's...really admirable that they still choose to do good.
like you said, the star sanses risk their lives often and fight, offering treaties and agreements, just to make things right that's so??? admirable????? like for the amount of times the bad sanses fucking fight them, i genuinely would've just given up completely, but they just....don't??? and that's so admirable and sweet? it makes them so deserving of their titles as guardians.
idk!!! this is a massive ramble too, i don't even know where i was going with it but like, yeah, i think i wanted to talk mostly about why people preferred the bad sanses over the star sanses and how it makes me sad i get you anon. with my whole body and my whole soul. i understand what you mean and i see you
#Anonymous#idk like. if these fuckers were real and protecting my multiverse id spare some sympathy for them#i would hate for people to call them stupid for not trying or not being the best bc theyre literally the only ones keeping me alive#< (hypothetical situation btw. thought id say that again in case it wasnt clear)#ive already talked enough about how i dont like people making the star sanses evil (unless its written well)#and pretend that everything the bad sanses do is good and that theyre sweet wittol babie beans#like what if i like them evil. they would kick my ass and that's what i prefer tbh#anyway yeah............different flavor ramble from me today i guess. im just sad the star sanses arent humanized ever
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Hi I have been watching your dadmare au really interestingly!! I found your artwork at googling and it was just awesome...
I was curious what if....dream gets sick, like high fever or cold? Kids get sick easily than adults, and they should take not strong medicine as their body is still growing...I am curious dadmare's reaction!
sorry for my bad English, it is not my first language😅 Send love from Korea!
Wow, thank you so much for the ask! I was surprised to see someone send something, since the story has been inactive due to busy life stuff. Your English is fine, don't worry.
If Dream were to get sick, Dadmare would be really worried and fussy. He would spend all his time taking care of him and being by his side. Soup, blankets, wiping his nose, wet cloths on his forehead and wiping him down. Since they live in an area where medicine isn't easily accessible and healers are rare, he would have to take care of him on his own. For children around this time (since medical knowledge is safeguarded to certain professions or it's rare) it's possible for a sick child to die.
However, since Dream is a well-beloved child by the Village, they will probably send someone to check up on him. The only issue that Dream and Nightmare do not have monster souls, so healing doesn't really work on them. An apple would help, but he has a strong aversion to using or touching them. The Village may even threaten to take Dream since he got sick, and he needs care.
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