#I like them when they are cunts

[saxandviolins77]

Here's a Constructicon question for you: from rewatching their episodes in G1, something that really stands out to me is that they have a complicated relationship with the Autobots, which is largely due to shoddy writing and a lack of planning but... still, that seems like a pretty ripe thing to expand on, I'd say. What's your take on that aspect of them? I'm sure you know what I'm referring to when I ask this, but just to clarify, I mean like that they were supposedly friends with Omega (while sill being animated with Decepticon logos lol) then got brainwashed to be Decepticons, then Omega tried to brainwash them back but couldn't, then they say they almost wish he'd have just been brainwashed too since they like his mean streak. That they have some interest and respect for Grapple and Hoist that may have been all a ruse... or not. That the Autobots were apparently okay with brainwashing Devastator, then fought over him with Megatron, this gave Devastator a massive migraine or whatever, only for Megatron to ditch him and for Devastator to be in denial. I feel like this relationship between the Constructicons and Autobots is especially interesting since they also often have strong connections to Megatron. Thoughts?

Oh well, I do have some thoughts about that, but they might be more unpopular than anything.

First off, I like to separate their backstories for consistency's sake and the fact that they generally contradict each other. (I'll also be ignoring their "built on Earth" backstory because there's nothing worthwhile in that.)

Robosmasher backstory (Secret of Omega Supreme and maaaaybe The Core)

With this backstory, the relationship between the Autobots and Constructicons is a big "what could've been." If you're watching "The Core" with this backstory in mind, it really rings true. Like, we can assume that given no mind washing, they would've become Autobots, right? But uuh... This backstory also has the biggest copout decision ever: the Robosmasher's effect cannot be undone... So stalemate.

It's a tragic backstory, but it serves Omega Supreme more than it does the Constructicons. Any other relationship they would've with the Autobots suddenly doesn't exist because they're evil down to their programming.

No-Robosmasher backstory (any other episode, except Heavy Metal War)

Ok, now things are getting a little more interesting... Because... WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THE DECEPTICONS??

Let us remember that in the Sunbow cartoon, the Transformers were created as "consumer goods" and "military hardware." Sooo where are the Constructicons fitting in? Of course not military hardware... But consumer goods? They're industrial vehicles; would they count? Were they built after the first war? I say they're closer to Autobots than they are to the Decepticons, which would be enough to generate some bitterness and resentment towards them.

(Edit: like, if they were built in the first war, it wouldn't make sense for them to exist in the way they do... A random robot called Hook and Long Haul walking around? Their alt-modes are fundamental to them in a way. There WERE normal construction vehicles in the Golden Age era... So Aerialbot situation after Transformation was invented? So they were built Autobots? Fucking traitors.)

Of course, I left an important detail out...

They built Megatron... The guy with the evil brain impulses... The dictator...

What's the deal with that?

The way I portray it is that they're class traitors, and the Autobots acknowledge that. As for them? Well, they did join the Decepticons with the assumption that if they won the war, they would've been spared. It took them a long time to realize it doesn't work like that, and y'know, they already killed a bunch of people, and they don't really feel sorry for that.

They're in a very weird position; they couldn't care less for the Decepticon faction, but the Autobots would have the hardest time accepting them, as the Constructicons would have with accepting their moral code.

In a way, it's all superfluous for them; everything is a means to an end. They will betray Megatron if that serves them right; they will momentarily join forces with the Autobots if they need to. And just as there are Decepticons that they consider passable, there are also Autobots they wouldn't mind mingling with; it's just business anyway.

Now... the Autobots, some of them hate the Constructicons and all they represent, while others have more charitable views of them and believe in redemption.

I don't believe in redemption, btw, those guys need to die.

[lotus-pear]

i think you guys are onto smth..

i unironically got invested in this HELP

[gayvampyr]

whenever i feel like i’m being crazy when my roommates overstep my boundaries i remember that i literally never wanted roommates and got stuck in this situation because of the dire housing crisis and the fact that my biweekly paychecks are consistently ~$260 or less and not in fact enough to cover rent of single room apartments in my area

[stupidrant]

im seeing the pattern of being an atreus/angrboda fan (or u just like them) and having to go through this weird initiation process of: liking them in the game (wether its themselves, their relationship or both), then trying to find content of them only to be shocked to see a bunch of haters (on both sides but angrboda gets it the worst and thrud is often times oddly used against her), only to then get severely disappointed and realize u probably have to do a bit of contribution yourself which isnt bad but it sucks when its characters that are ridiculously hated 😭😭😭

[aithusarosekiller]

regulus wanted muggleborns dead and you ship him with lily? you're a disgusting bigot. james and lily would spit on regulus's grave he deserves no respect and you are a fascist sympathiser

Hey so I hate to break it to you babydoll but these characters are actually fictional!

You should be worrying about real bigots instead of fictional characters that aren't hurting any real people and don't have ANY say in the morality of the people that like them. Trying to compromise somebody's morals over a FICTIONAL character not only reduces real issues down to a pathetic little play-card so you can try to one-up someone, it erases any real experiences they may have with bigotry as a REAL PERSON on the basis of...made up stories? My people actually are being 'exterminated' as we speak and nobody seems to care so you saying this BULLSHIT not only reminded me of this, it makes me feel sick to be compared to the people who are actively trying to kill ME and my brethren when I know I am nothing like them and some made up people do not dictate that.

If you looked at my page for a single second you'd know that I hc Regulus as a meek young boy who was tricked into making wrong decision and had great opportunity to grow into a good person (which is also Sirius' opinion) but even if I didn't....it doesn't matter because he's not real. And if we're being all holier-than-thou about characters, you don't know Lily at all if you think she'd spit on anyone's grave, especially that of a brainwashed child who appears to have tried their best to escape the cult-mindset they were fed.

On another note, this implies that watching ofmd means that you must want to blow people up or watching Hannibal means you eat people in your free time. There's no correlation and trying to make fandom about morality in order to push your preferences as 'better' than another interpretation is ridiculous and cheapens real humanitarian issues.

So get a life, go away, and get bigger problems xxx

[revehae]

we need to kill everyone at sm entertainment

[mukuharakazui]

the bg3 fanbase is funny as fuck in a bad way for primarily shipping gale, who is the most garrulous man you can imagine, with astarion, whom gale goes "uh 😐 not really looking to talk with you man" at when prompted for conversation, and not with wyll, whose party admission gets a "gale approves" and then they proceed to compliment each other 24/7.

update: i think ship wars are stupid as fuck + this is about something very different. a very notable problem not just among the general bg3 and d&d fan circles but among certain fans of this sort of fantasy genre as a whole.

[ikilledamanforthisurl]

the way Vane secures his place as a Favoured Captain by allowing his crew to systematically SA Max is disgusting and insidious & the way Elanor uses Max's SA to basically get Flint a second ship and potentially secures her own role in their pirating business venture is, similarly, really fucking disgusting and insidious

[james-sunshine-potter]

I can fix him (no really I can) is such a James Potter song

In literally any relationship he would ever be in, it would have that sort of vibe. He just attracts those people.

[pocket-deer-boy]

i just realized it's been a year and two months since i originally asked for therapy and i'm still not getting therapy. normal country