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angelltheninth · 3 days ago
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Love and Deepspace Men Pining For You
Pining: Zayne, Rafayel, Xavier, Sylus, Caleb x Fem!Reader
Tags: fluff, angst with a happy ending, love confession, jealousy, kissing, friends to lovers, pining
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A/N: Someone needs to take my phone away before I go crazy over these guys. Unless it already happened and I didn't notice.
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Zayne is always surrounded by all kinds of attention from women but the only woman he wants the attention of is you. Because he's popular he gets that he might have to be more clear about his intentions with you. It's not just him teasing or being playful when he asks you to those lunch dates, it's not just him wanting to fluster you when he touches your cheek with his fingertips. That is him being completely serious about wanting to date you, wanting to be your boyfriend. You being his girlfriend would make him the happiest man in the world. And if he was your boyfriend he would make sure you never want for anything, he would do anything in his power to make you happy and keep you safe. Kisses would be includes, but they would be more of a bonus to the relationship, a welcome one.
Rafayel feels his whole body flushing when your hands touch. What started as a simple admiration for you has developed into so much more, it's not just about him wanting to be the main subject of his artwork, but the only woman he wants to be his lover. The courtship starts with him painting sceneries that he knows you like and then gifting them to you, they're on small canvases so you can take quite a few of them. Every time he notices you talking to some other guy he gets this adorable pout on his face that he hides by quickly turning on his heel and storming off. Often asks you for whet he should draw next, saying how much he values you and your opinion. He's confesses by saying he's always liked painting beautiful things and to him there's no one more beautiful than you.
Xavier thinks over every little thing you do together, carefully combing through your interactions to try and figure put if you like him too. It could be that he's just imagining things and his affections are one-sided. He would hate that of course but his primary goal is to make sure you're safe and happy. As he finds himself thinking more and more of you when he's away he gets scared. Scared that something bad might happen and you won't ever get to find out how he feels about you. Before he's set to leave again he envelopes you in a tight hug, telling you that he will come back for sure, because there's a woman he loves and he will get back to her one way or another. He doesn't kiss you as he leaves, that should be saved for when he comes back, and it is.
Sylus doesn't hold back once you catch his eyes, he saw you and it doesn't matter who saw you before him. He wants you for himself now, he wants to win you over and wants you to only look at him, to only think of him. Very flirty from the beginning and therefore a little hard to read at how genuine he's being with his advances. After a few nights spent together he can't stop thinking about you. Waking up to you is the best part of his day, as is falling asleep next to you. He wants to hold on to those feelings forever, wants to hold onto you forever. Every kiss from you makes his mind go wild in ways he never experianced before. He never expected to fall for you, or that you would return his feelings past the desires you felt for each other, but he did fall, deep and fast and hard, and he's taking you with him.
Caleb has been pining after you for years, before you went your separate ways. You were the only one who kept him going though all these years and now he finally has you back. He doesn't intent to let you go again, or to let any other man have you. The kisses he gives, the touches he makes, the words he speaks leave no room for doubt of his feelings but he also doesn't want to force these feelings onto you. Every day he tells you how much he loves you, hoping that one day he'll hear it back. When he does he honestly thinks he's still dreaming, that you aren't even there, that you were never real, that you can't love the man he is now. But you can, and you do, and just like him you never want to let him go again.
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scoobydoodean · 20 hours ago
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> Dean would eat pussy
> No he wouldn’t he hates women and only sees them as sex objects
> That is objectively false. He has loving relationships and normal interactions with women on your tv screen.
> I think sometimes when people assume Dean hates women it’s because they ascribe misogynist thinking to him based on stereotypes about men who are blue collar
> Dean says skank. I can’t believe deangirls think Dean has never said anything misogynist and is the number one feminist
> That is a brand new sentence.
> Dean was only responsible for a few of the uses of “skank” in the episodes you listed yet you and all your friends attribute every use of “skank” to him automatically. And intentionally avoid the context. How interesting.
> The context doesn’t matter, you misogynist. I bet you’re a racist too.
> I’m so confused right now. Can a man not say skank AND be into clam diving? Is your world that narrow???
> Wow. Dean be blue collar? How stupid. He’s a criminal, therefore does not count.
> Don’t be pedantic. Also you’re wrong. Also Kripke literally said they’re blue collar.
> Dean can’t be truly blue collar because Kripke couldn’t have read Marx’s example of the value of a linen coat in Das Kapital*. People who are not as educated as me on Theory couldn’t possibly understand what it means for a character to experience class-related stereotyping.
* this is an example Marx uses to explain the value of commodities and has nothing to do with anything we are talking about except in the most convoluted way possible.
HOW DID WE GET HERE FROM MUNCHING BOX!!!!
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apoloadonisandnarcissus · 3 days ago
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Understanding “Wuthering Heights” inspiration in “Nosferatu” (2024)
Did anyone ordered the horror version of “Wuthering Heights”? Because Robert Eggers delivered.
Ellen and Orlok are toxic as hell; this should go without saying. Their whole deal is about pure obsession, persecution, sex and death. It’s a blend of hatred and passion, all consuming and self-destructive, inspired by Catherine and Heathcliff from Emily Brontë’s “Wuthering Heights” as confirmed by Robert Eggers. Orlok both disgusts and attracts Ellen. It’s “unhealthy and parasitic form of love” and there’s a “mutual yearning” between these characters, and a love triangle with Thomas, like Lily-Rose Depp says, as Ellen is in love with them both:
“This demonic, dark fairy tale could be a young woman torn between two men, both representing different parts of what she wants. The desire and disgust serves as a mirror for the shame that we feel, certainly the shame that I’m sure a lot of women felt at the time.”
We are also told Ellen both hates and enjoys her psychosexual connection (dreams, possession, etc.) with Orlok, being riddled with guilt and shame, due to Victorian views of sex (as Lily-Rose Depp explains).
Catherine and Heathcliff from “Wuthering Heights” are one of the darkest pairs in English literature, and even Robert Eggers call them “one of the great demon lover stories of all time”, and how the reader is always wondering about the ambiguity of Heathcliff’s feelings for Catherine, if he loves her or not, if he wants to possess or to destroy her. Robert Eggers also said he returned to “Wuthering Heights” a lot while writing “Nosferatu” script.
“At first it was sweet, I had never known such bliss. Yet it turned to torture, it would kill me. […] He is my shame! He is my melancholy! He took me as his lover then, and now he has come back. He discovered our marriage and has come back!”
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“Wuthering Heights” (2011)
How deep does this inspiration runs in the film? Can it help us to understand Ellen and Orlok’s dynamic? And the love triangle with Thomas? And even the ending?
This “ambiguity” also seems to be Eggers’ goal with Ellen and Orlok’s relationship on his adaptation of “Nosferatu”: the dialogue shows the hatred, while the love is represented in the symbolism of the lilacs, and the lust/passion with their body language.
We have some interesting references to Catherine on Ellen’s backstory (when she talks to Von Franz); she liked playing in the woods as a child, and her father called her “his little changeling girl” (as in the European folklore of children kidnapped by fairies or demons and a substitute being left in their place), implying she was mischievous and wild, like Catherine herself. In her teenage years, like Catherine, she develops an intense, passionate and secret relationship with Orlok/Heathcliff. While Catherine and Heathcliff had the moors, Ellen and Orlok had a garden of lilacs (according to the prologue, and since we have no other indication, let’s assume that was their usual “meeting spot”).
In both cases, these relationships are socially inappropriate and sort of forbidden (Heathcliff’s ethnicity and poverty; and Orlok is a undead demon vampire), and they would make Ellen/Catherine into a social pariah, dead to society (in Ellen’s case, literally) should they commit to it. Which is why they don’t, and choose Edgar/Thomas instead.
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“Wuthering Heights” (1992)
Ellen’s wild and passionate affair with Orlok came to an end when she met and married Thomas Hutter; like Catherine and Heathcliff when she met Edgar Linton. Both Thomas and Edgar are gentlemen, graceful and well-mannered, embodied with civilized virtues. Catherine loves Edgar because he’s handsome, young, cheerful and rich, and marries him to fulfill societal expectations, but her love for Heathcliff is ever present, haunting and tormenting her.
I’ll add a personal note here: while I loved “Nosferatu”, I think the previous relationship between Ellen and Orlok should have been more fleshed-out on-screen, during the prologue. Because the entire story feels a bit contrived due to that lack of context. We only saw her summoning him and when he revealed himself to her, and the rest of the clues about their shared past are all over the place, and are causing a lot of misunderstanding on the audience. Eggers probably didn’t want to “humanize” his monster too much and keep the horror element, but the message gets a bit “lost on translation”.
Why does Ellen loves Thomas? She says to Von Franz she became “as normal” when she met him, and we have several mentions of how his love saves her. He represents her chance at a normal life (societal expectations), and she sees him as her savior. In a way, Catherine also saw Edgar as her “savior” from a life of poverty, the life she would have had if she married Heathcliff, even though she considers him her soulmate. Ellen’s “epilepsies” stopped when she met Thomas; as Catherine also loses her “wild ways” when she meets Edgar. Nevertheless, Orlok’s memory is always haunting her (like Catherine with Heathcliff), as symbolized by the lilacs on her wedding outfit, her gowns, and even her perfume.
Thomas also shares similar traits with Edgar: kind, polite, loyal and is a good and supportive husband to Ellen/Catherine, even though they don’t fully understand their emotional turmoil/darkness, they stand by them. Both characters have a gentle and nurturing nature, and try to provide Ellen/Catherine with a comfortable and stable life. While Edgar is rich, Thomas is hard-working. They will both be grieving widowers. Like Edgar, Thomas is the antithesis to Orlok/Heathcliff in this story. Edgar is a model of tenderness and constancy, like Thomas himself; while Heathcliff/Orlok are the complete opposite.
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“Wuthering Heights” (Minisseries, 2009)
Like Catherine and Edgar, Thomas and Ellen’s love is marked by kindness, and a desire for stability, but is always haunted by Orlok/Heathcliff passionate and destructive love/obsession. In both stories, this leads to tragedy, suffering and emotional pain for the three characters.
In her heart, Catherine wants to be with Heathcliff, but her mind tells her she must marry Edgar. She’s deeply conflicted about the whole ordeal, torn between her love for two men, and her own nature vs. social expectations of her. This is also what we see with Ellen, when she tells Thomas about her dream of marrying Death (Orlok) on their wedding day. And how she has never been so happy in her entire life as in that moment. And the scent of lilacs was strong in the rain, symbolizing her connection with Orlok.
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Both Orlok and Heathcliff become obsessed in getting revenge for the way Ellen/Catherine left them, planning their entire existences around the goal of destroying Catherine and Edgar’s families, after he returns to Wuthering Heights. Which is, pretty much, what Orlok does in “Nosferatu”, by targeting Thomas and the Hardings. Heathcliff violent, bitter and vengeful nature is revealed in this plot, and he’s ruthless and merciless.
Which, again, is very similar to Orlok’s actions in Wisburg (even thought they were already a part of the original story, Eggers gave it a new layer of intention). However, and even though he feels deeply betrayed by Ellen, Orlok (like Heathcliff) never targets her, directly, but wants to torment her by destroying her loved ones, as revenge for leaving him and marrying Thomas/Edgar instead. "You are my affliction", says Orlok. Of course, this is taken to an extreme on “Nosferatu” because it’s a horror film.
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“You teach me now how cruel you've been - cruel and false. Why did you despise me? Why did you betray your own heart, Cathy? I have not one word of comfort - you deserve this."
Once he returns to Wuthering Heights, Heathcliff visits Catherine and Edgar’s house often, and Catherine herself can’t take her eyes off him; which parallels Ellen’s “hysteric fits” in “Nosferatu”; as Orlok coming between Ellen and Thomas. Like Catherine, Ellen is also distress by these visits (“epilepsies”) but finds it extremely hard to resist engaging with Heathcliff/Orlok: “his pull on me is so terrible, so strong”. Catherine and Heathcliff’s separation did not change their feelings and they yearn for each other even more; in “Nosferatu” this is visible in Ellen and Orlok’s body language.
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“You loved me then, what right had you to leave me? What right, answer me, for the poor fancy you felt for Linton? Because misery and degradation, and death, and nothing that God or Satan could inflict would have parted us, you, of your own will, did it. I have not broken your heart, you have broken it; and in breaking it, you have broken mine.”
When Edgar realizes the depth of Heathcliff’s influence on Catherine, he feels threatened, insecure and jealous. We see this on “Nosferatu” when Thomas has sex with Ellen after she tells him “you could never please me as he could”, as he gets insanely jealous of her words. This scene is also a reference to Catherine weaponizing Edgar and Heathcliff jealousy against each other; when she taunts Edgar for being weaker than Heathcliff, and rubs her marital happiness on Heathcliff’s face (we see this when Ellen tells Thomas to let Orlok see their love).
Like Edgar, Thomas also loves Ellen, deeply, but her “divided affections” cause him emotional pain and frustration, especially as Ellen/Catherine is drawn back to Orlok/Heathcliff: “Stop this, Ellen! I love you!” Even when Ellen’s connection with Orlok consumes her, Thomas remains loyal to her, like Edgar with Catherine. In “Nosferatu” we don’t know, but in “Wuthering Heights”, Edgar buries Catherine on the moors, after her death, and then has himself buried next to her, decades later, instead of his family crypt.
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“Heathcliff would as soon lift a finger at you as the king would march his army against a colony of mice.”
We also see the rivalry between Thomas and Orlok in “Nosferatu”. Like in the original “Dracula” novel, the Count lures him into a trap by making him travel to his castle, where he steals the silver heart locket Ellen gave him, and bitterly says to Thomas “you are fortunate in your love”. Orlok smelling the strand of Ellen’s hair is also a reference to when Heathcliff does the same to Catherine. And then tries to kill him, but he manages to escape. Like Heathcliff, Orlok also speaks ill of Thomas to Ellen herself, weaponizing his greed, while implying Thomas doesn’t really love her. Heathcliff also says Edgar just performs his duty, while he’s the one who truly loves Catherine.
Heathcliff and Edgar’s fights cause the deterioration of Catherine’s health until she locks herself in her room, spiraling down into delirium and depression, tormented by nightmares and hallucinations. Catherine’s madness appears to be the reference for Ellen’s mental condition in the film. Catherine is also distressed and protests over Edgar’s response to her illness (retreating to society and his library). In “Nosferatu”, we can see this with Ellen’s distress over Thomas leaving her, at the beginning of the film, as he dismisses her prophetic dreams as “fancies”.
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“Because I'm weak, my brain got confused, and I screamed unconsciously. Don't say anything; but stay with me. I dread sleeping: my dreams appal me.”
Catherine’s madness is a combination of things we also see in Ellen’s character. At its core is Catherine obsessive, tumultuous and passionate connection with Heathcliff. We see this with Ellen and Orlok, and she calls him “her melancholy” and “her shame”, as they share a deep, sexual and spiritual bond. Like Catherine and Edgar, Ellen’s marriage to Thomas is rooted in security, stability and social respectability, and it should be everything she’s supposed to desire and aspire, but it’s unfulfilling and suppresses her true nature (in Ellen’s case it’s her supernatural abilities, and she also wishes Thomas was more passionate).
This is also align with Lily-Rose Depp words:
“I think in a lot of ways, he's [Orlok] almost a symbol of the things that you don't want or that you shouldn't want, and yet you are so drawn to. I think a lot of what Ellen is going through is an internal battle between all of this darkness that she's always had within her, and then the light that she's trying to cling to. I think he [Orlok], of course, is the manifestation of that, of that darkness. We definitely wanted it to feel like a love-triangle in a lot of ways and it's a love story in the end. I think she really loves Thomas and I think she does though have this twisted yearning for this darker realm, and I think [Orlok] is the embodiment of that.”
Catherine feels trapped by her life choices which are a consequence of Victorian society, which has strict expectations of women regarding marriage, class and behavior. Her all-consuming love for Heathcliff, her unfulfilling but agreeable marriage to Edgar and her identity crisis, create a profound internal conflict that lead her to her tragic decline and premature death, as a consequence of her depression.
Both men suffer deeply with her death; Edgar with calm sadness (which is what we see with Thomas at the end of “Nosferatu”) while Heathcliff is full desolation and anguish, begging for her ghost to haunt him as he begins a path of self-destruction. Catherine’s ghost indeed haunts Heathcliff for eighteen years, and we see a reference to this on “Nosferatu”, too, when Anna Harding tells her husband: “Clara asked me today if Aunty Ellen has become a ghost.”
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“It would degrade me to marry Heathcliff now; so he shall never know how I love him: and that, not because he’s handsome, Nelly, but because he’s more myself than I am.”
Like Catherine, Ellen doesn’t reveal the depth of her feelings for Orlok/Heathcliff to him until the bitter end, nor any character in the story, besides Nelly and Von Franz (and even then is very cryptic, which makes the audience think she has none, and that’s why the lilacs are there). But both Orlok and Heathcliff are very much aware of them, as Heathcliff says “you know as well as I do, that for every thought she spends on Linton, she spends a thousand on me!”
Orlok: “Your passion is bound to me.” Ellen: “You cannot love.” Orlok: “I- cannot. Yet, I cannot be sated without you. Remember how once we were? A moment. Remember?” Ellen: “I abhor you.” Orlok: “You are false!” Alexa play “Wuthering Heights” by Kate Bush
Catherine loves Heathcliff because their souls are the same: “He's more myself than I am. Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same.” In “Nosferatu”, this translates in the covenant between Orlok and Ellen: “As our spirits are one, so too shall be our flesh. You are mine.” They also share the same nature; when Ellen says she has felt Orlok crawling like a serpent on her body, he says it’s her own nature, a nature she denies (“you denied yourself”). And while Catherine loves Edgar, she recognizes their spirits are “as different as a moonbeam from lightning, or frost from fire”; which is the same with Thomas and Ellen, as he worries about money and social status, and she doesn’t, he’s more restrained in his affections, while Ellen is more passionate.
This is aligned with Robert Eggers explanation, and so, indeed, the “Wuthering Heights” inspiration is very clear in this story:
“Ellen’s husband loves her, but he can’t understand these ‘hysteric’ and ‘melancholic’ feelings she’s experiencing, and he’s dismissive of her. The only person she really finds a connection with is this monster, and that love triangle is so compelling to me, partially because of how tragic it is.”
Edgar/Thomas represents safety and social stability (society), while Heathcliff/Orlok embodies wild passion and freedom (nature) in Catherine and Ellen’s narratives. In Ellen’s case this is even more evident with the corset symbolism (restrictive and cagey); in every scene she has with Orlok, she never wears a corset, as she’s usually on her nightgown. The only exception is when she wears her wedding dress in their final scene, and even then, she ends up fully naked before him, fully liberated from social restraint, fully embracing her nature (which can also be a reference to Carl Jung’s “assimilation/integration of shadow” theory).
Eggers also makes the distinction between “love” and “passion” in his script; Thomas is “love” while Orlok is “passion”. This has occult meaning, but it can also be a way of showing to the audience this polarization/dichotomy in Ellen’s narrative. Because Ellen equals “love” with “sacred” and “salvation” in the script; while “passion” is “unclean” and “abhorrent”. Which is very much in line with Victorian views of sex (passion) and marriage (love); “passionate sex” is sin and unholy (demonic); while “marriage” is love sanctified by religion (sacred).
Ellen spent the second act of the movie talking about how Thomas love has “saved” her from her connection with Orlok, and on the third act is Thomas himself who wants to embody the “savior” role; as he’s determined to destroy Orlok, and then runs to try and save Ellen. But Ellen begins the third act by saying to Von Franz: “I need no salvation”, and how she has always been true to her own nature, as Von Franz asks her to be true by it now, because only her can redeem them. But Ellen accepting her true nature means accepting Orlok, because they are one spirit, like Catherine and Heathcliff.
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“I am Heathcliff! He’s always, always in my mind-not as a pleasure to myself, but as my own being. So don't talk of our separation again - it is impracticable.”
But Catherine wants to “have her cake and eat it too”, by having both Edgar and Heathcliff in her life, until she’s faced with the impossibility of having both, and is forced to choose.
We also see this happening in “Nosferatu”, but, unlike the novel (where it’s Edgar who gives her an ultimatum), here it’s Orlok who forces Ellen/Catherine to choose between him or Thomas/Edgar. It wouldn’t make any sense to be Thomas, let’s be honest. In both cases, this is not really a choice, because Catherine choosing Heathcliff would mean leaving her husband, damaging her reputation beyond repair, and she would be ruined. It would be want we call “social suicide”, nowadays. Ellen choosing Orlok means choosing “dead to society”, too, literally.
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“Will you give up Heathcliff hereafter, or will you give up me? It is impossible for you to be my friend and his at the same time; and I absolutely require to know which you choose.”
The hopelessness of Catherine and Heathcliff love (besides all the angst), it’s that they can’t ever be together in life, and yet desire it strongly, which leads them both to their ends, on a path of self-destruction. They eventually blame each other, despise each other, while being drawn and attracted to one another. As Catherine goes deeper into madness, the more consumed and obsessed with Heathcliff and death she becomes, to the point she equals her love for him with death itself.
In “Nosferatu” we see this with Ellen and Orlok, too: “He stalks me in my dreams, all my sleeping thoughts are of him, every night-” and how she refers to Orlok as “death” (as he literally is in this story). Like Catherine and Heathcliff, it’s impossible for Ellen and Orlok to be together in the living world, as they can only be united in spirit/death: “you are not for the living. You are not for human kind”. And like Catherine and Heathcliff, this sets them both on a path of self-destruction, and torment for everyone around them, which only ends with their deaths.
Catherine is unable to choose, which will culminate with her premature death, as she’s tired and feels trapped in this physical world. This is what we see with Ellen in “Nosferatu”, since she saves Thomas’ life (+ everyone else) and dies alongside Orlok, breaking the curse of Nosferatu.
In “Nosferatu” we also have the reference to Catherine’s window, as we always see a window in connection with Ellen and Orlok. Symbolically, windows are a veil between life and death, and barrier to the supernatural. In “Wuthering Heights”, Catherine is often at the window, her ghost makes apparitions at the window, Heathcliff begs her ghost to come through his window. Doors and windows are usually connected with Catherine and Heathcliff’s separation and his inability to reach her. In “Nosferatu”, we also see this: in the prologue, Ellen’s window is wide open (when she meets and develops a relationship with Orlok), then it’s shut (symbolizing their separation) until the third act, when she asks him to come to her (union).
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“He [Heathcliff] got on to the bed, and wrenched open the lattice, bursting, as he pulled at it, into an uncontrollable passion of tears. ‘Come in! come in!’ he sobbed. ‘Cathy, do come. Oh, do—once more! Oh! my heart’s darling! hear me, this time, Catherine, at last!’”
But does Ellen “have her cake and eat it too”? We have to look into “Wuthering Heights”, again:
As Catherine faces her imminent death, she and Heathcliff reach the height of their passion for each other, declaring that their souls will never be separated. Death separates them and it is death itself which unites their souls. We see this with Ellen and Orlok’s covenant in “Nosferatu”: “you shall be one with me ever-eternally”.
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“I’ll not lie there by myself; they may bury me twelve feet deep, and throw the church down over me, but I won’t rest till you are with me. I never will!”
In death, Catherine realizes it was folly to choose Edgar over Heathcliff, because she has betrayed and killed herself in her process. “Can’t you see!? It doesn’t matter! We should never have married! We are already dead!” Ellen shouts at Thomas, after she accuses Orlok’s passion of turning to torture, “it would kill me”.
After Catherine’s death, Heathcliff is consumed by grief, and says he cannot live with his soul in the grave. When he goes to say goodbye to Catherine on her coffin, he places a lock of his hair in the locket around her neck. In “Nosferatu”, we have a reference to this when Ellen cuts a strand of her hair and places it her silver heart locket and gives it to Thomas at the beginning of the movie, but it’s Orlok who keeps it for himself.
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“You said I killed you--haunt me then. The murdered do haunt their murderers. I believe--I know that ghosts have wandered the earth. Be with me always--take any form--drive me mad. Only do not leave me in this abyss, where I cannot find you! Oh, God! It is unutterable! I cannot live without my life! I cannot live without my soul!”
After Catherine’s death, Heathcliff goes deeper into revenge and cruelty, as he terrorizes everyone due to his anger, grief and frustration of being without her, as he becomes a deranged monster (like Orlok himself). For eighteen years, Catherine’s ghost haunts Heathcliff, and this gives him hope of being united with her after his own death, leading to his self-destruction, too. Which, again, we see in “Nosferatu”, as both Ellen and Orlok cause their own self-destruction in the living world. I already made the case about how this was something they both wanted in another post, so I won’t talk about it here, but the “Wuthering Heights” inspiration only strengthens that interpretation.
Now we need to go back to Catherine and Heathcliff’s final encounter. As she’s near death, she admits how much she longs for him, at last, and how them, as lovers, can’t be united in this world, only in death. We see this in “Nosferatu”, when Ellen fulfills her covenant with Orlok, and marries death. Catherine accuses Heathcliff of metaphorically “killing her”, while Orlok literally does in “Nosferatu”, by drinking her blood, and then be killed himself by sunlight.
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“I wish I could hold you,’ she continued, bitterly, ‘till we were both dead!”
Heathcliff kisses and embraces Catherine, but can’t bear the agony of looking at her face, knowing she is going to die soon. In “Nosferatu” we also see Orlok looking away from Ellen when the sun is rising, and is reluctant to look at her, as she dies, until she compels him to face her. Is this a reference to “Wuthering Heights”, too? Because she embodies Catherine’s wish next, as they embrace until they are both dead.
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“It is hard to forgive, and to look at those eyes, and feel those wasted hands,' he answered. 'Kiss me again; and don't let me see your eyes!”
Decades later, when Edgar dies, Heathcliff has Catherine’s coffin exhumed and asks the sexton to open it, because he wants to see her face. Then, he demanded the side of her coffin to be open, so his own coffin can be joined with hers, and their corpses united in death. Some get necrophilic vibes from this act, which can be also the reference to Ellen and Orlok sex scene (and also Friedrich and Anna’s). As they couldn’t be united in life, Heathcliff wants to be joined with her in death. Which is also what we see in “Nosferatu” with Ellen and Orlok.
This represents the feeling of incompleteness without each other and the desire and thirst to unite, the yearning to transgress the bonds of society and fuse with each other, which will culminate with the union of their corpses. Because Catherine is buried next to her husband, Edgar, after all.
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“I was sleeping the last sleep by that sleeper, with my heart stopped and my cheek frozen against hers.”
After his death, Heathcliff is buried as per his wishes, next to Catherine, in the moors of Wuthering Heights. Their spirits are reunited in a realm where there’s no social bonds no class differences, and they can be together, at last. They return to their spiritual Wuthering Heights, where their love was free and possible; and we see Von Franz placing lilac flowers around Ellen and Orlok’s body, symbolizing their return to their lilac garden, as their corpses are united, like Catherine and Heathcliff’s.
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“I believe the dead are at peace: but it is not right to speak of them with levity. […] They are afraid of nothing,’ I grumbled, watching their approach through the window. ‘Together, they would brave Satan and all his legions’.”
Afterwards, the people of the region swore they felt and saw Heathcliff and Catherine’s ghosts in the moors, walking together. Their union after death also brought a new era of harmony and peace to Wuthering Heights. “Redemption!” As Von Franz would say.
Interestingly enough, Von Franz also stares out of the window like the narrator in the final chapter of “Wuthering Heights”; “watching their approach through the window”? He’s also the one who brings and places the lilacs around Ellen and Orlok’s bodies, a tribute to their love.
“And so the maiden fair did offer up her love unto the beast, and with him lay in close embrace until first cockcrow, her willing sacrifice thus broke the curse and freed them from the plague of Nosferatu”.
The majority of people are misunderstanding this passage, because not only this is a Solomanari book (belongs to Orlok) but there is no mention of any “town” or the world in general here. This speaks of how the love and the willing sacrifice (death) of a maiden (Ellen) saved her and the beast (Orlok) from the curse of Nosferatu. “Them” is the maiden and the beast, Ellen and Orlok, and how her love for him and her death saved them both from the curse he had upon himself (Nosferatu). English is not even my mother language and even I can understand this.
As a consequence, her death also saved everyone else, including Thomas (because she loves him too). And so, she exchanges one last look of love with him, silently saying goodbye before departing to the spiritual realm alongside Orlok. So, indeed, Ellen “had her cake and eat it too”, at end, like Catherine; she couldn’t decide between the two men she loved, so she died, but was reunited in death with Heathcliff, and their spiritual union brought peace to “Wuthering Heights”, like Ellen and Orlok’s to Wisburg. While Edgar/Thomas had Catherine/Ellen’s love in life, Heathcliff/Orlok has it in death/spiritual world.
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DBDA Character Appreciation Week: #4 Niko Sasaki
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I love her sm!!! Outfit ideas here by @katygorl
The yellow one is w a pastel highlighter, and the other two w colouring pencils and greyish purple and violet highlighter. I really like this one, I think I'm starting to find a colouring technique I don't completely hate!!! Whoohoo! (Btw in the purple one, the flowers on her top and boots are two different types of Violets, and she's holding a pink sea glass bc palasaki my beloved ones, they're matching ✨✨✨).
Words can't explain how much I love Niko, she's incredibly sweet and friendly and empathetic, and I love her dynamic with practically every character in the show, but what I love the most is that we can actually see on-screen how much she grows through the chapters, how stronger she's getting. I love DBDA because it portrays how different people deals with their feelings in a realistic way, how every teen has their own problems and it takes them with the care it deserves, it doesn't feel exaggerated but every topic is given the adequate seriousness it requires, and honestly is such a masterpiece in the storytelling and pacing through the chapters between the cases and their own character arcs that their evolution doesn't feel rushed at all, but then you look back and see how much they changed, and is really heartwarming.
I love Niko because at first she's locked up in her room and doesn't talk with anyone, and slowly starts opening up with Crystal, and the boys, and then you think she's okay, but she's not. Dealing with depression and mental health issues it's much more difficult than it might seem from the outside, because one day you're feeling Good Enough to go and talk to people with a smile on the face, but that doesn't mean you're really okay. That just means you're feeling Good Enough to keep the mask on through a conversation. And Niko feels pretty realistic and natural to me because healing requires time, and support, and the agency is supporting her but they're not rushing her up to join on cases until she's ready, and that's beautiful. I think it's beautiful bc it shows a healthy environment that provides comfort and support and she's getting better thanks to it, and thanks her own hidden strength, and they're helping her realize where that strength comes from.
And, idk, as I have already said millions of times, I really love Niko and Edwin's relationship, it feels so genuine and heartwarming and bro I want the Niko to my Edwin soooo bad. Help. But my point is. I think the best word I could find to describe their relationship is "comfort" bc they can be themselves with each other, talk about their problems without pressure, knowing that the other will accept them no matter what and will help and support them and, idk, the scene when they're watching Scooby Doo while Niko writers the letter to her mother and Edwin is just there, not intervening but just saying there so she's not alone, idk, it spokes so deeply to me. Like if they could face everything as long as they have each other. I know there's always been Charles and Edwin, and they fighting together against everything, but the relationship w Niko is set in a different emotional basis and I think that's something Edwin needed, being able to talk about his feelings, and the same with Niko.
Brooooo help I love this show so fucking much, it's a masterpiece in every aspect but I'll never stop rewatching and looked amazed by the characters. They're unapologetically queer, and real, and they deal with the Life, and oh fuck, Life is hard as hell, Life is a kick after kick and punch after punch and somehow we have to keep living through it, and I feel so seen when I look at the screen and I can relate with some things that I used to think they were so personal and that I was alone w that, only bc there wasn't any representation of it. We're not alone dealing with Life, and this masterpiece of art that it's Dead Boy Detectives shows it perfectly.
It's queer and flamboyant and bizarre, you have ghosts running for their afterlifes, you have a psychic dealing with her toxic demon ex-boyfriend, and a quirky witch and her familiar twink that actually shows real abusive relationships, you have a Cat King whose only relationships are shallow, and a Night Nurse that knows everything about everything and still has a lot to learn, and you have Niko, a lonely, aloof girl with two dandelion spirits in a bell jar in her room, a girl who grew up with the support of their friends and started to live again, and love again, and love Life, and still, she gave her life for their friends.
And her death matters.
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atropinenightshade · 11 hours ago
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Do you have a favorite trope/device? A favorite type of ending? Or a favorite archetype?
Ooo interesting ask!
I think some favorite tropes are marriage of convenience (or inconvenience in some cases)/arranged marriage as long as the development is done right and there is no major power imbalance or anything. Honestly, it's probably the one of the only tropes I would read a romance book for. (But also it needs to have plot) Another thing I love is when the story tricks you and everything you thought was real was a lie, but again it has to be done really well, because wasted potential (like Fall) just sucks. One good example of that is Caraval. I enjoy themes of poisoning and murder mystery and anything that has a supernatural or paranormal vibe to it. Gods/power vs mortals with the mortals learning how to survive and flip off these powerful beings, humanity for the win! Enemies to lovers but well-developed and not just a copy of a copy. I know there are iconic couples people try to get inspired from but sometimes it feels unoriginal.
I like cases where the protagonist tries to help but ends up being tone deaf at times and makes things worse? The example that comes to mind right now is not a book, but a movie.
Feminine characters that are not airheads, weak, or hated by the "I'm not like other girls" MC. Actually, let's have girls and women supporting each other. It makes stories less infuriating to read. Also men who are attractive by personality or energy and NOT by constant depiction of his abs or whatever like it's getting so OLD. And maybe move on from blonds for a little.
Found family or a familial relationship that isn't blood based like adoption.
Reincarnation (whether there's second chance love involved, well, as with all second chances it has to be written good enough) or spirits guiding their loved ones!
My favorite endings are bittersweet endings where it isn't fully happy but not excruciatingly sad either. (I mean I love tragic endings though but happy endings get old) Something with a touch of realism for the characters or a believable state of mind.
Archetypes? Hmm probably Mentors, Mother's, Rulers, Villains, Rebels and Tricksters. (If this is the character type meant)
Thanks for the ask! Any questions or further asks are welcome!
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(Hopefully) My last post on the hot takes in this fandom about Lucanis.
Update: The replies on this post will soon be locked while I am asleep, and turned back on in the morning. This topic is far too sensitive to me to allow anything to go down in the comments while I am not personally here to oversee it. I am very aware of what this fandom is like.
Disclaimer: So, I can't not talk about this anymore because as I mentioned in my "Dellamorte PSA" I'm a SA survivor who had those horrors subjected on me by my own family, and the absolutely unhinged hot take I have seen showing up a lot more recently, is really jarring and dare I say it triggering.
This post will contain spoilers and the mentioned topic of SA, you have been warned!
Also, this is gonna be a long post.
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So let's get the basics out of the way first.
Canonically Lucanis is a Demisexual Virgin.
There is no disputing this fact, everything else people want to say about him is headcanon. And while I have no problem with people's personal headcanons(despite how some of you should be on an FBI watch list), I do have a problem with the people who have them, trying to force them on other people as if they are actually canon.
Which they are not. I'm sorry but thems the brakes, that's how the cookie crumbles. Just enjoy your headcanons and stop being weird about it. You can have them, we promise, its in the rules of the fandom, headcanon is allowed.
I acknowledge that there is great disdain for his poor writer MK, but I don't get it. She's not JK.R(like so many of you love to claim) and I don't understand why you are so mad at her for telling you how she wrote her character.
You took the comment about how she referred to Lucanis as a 'Bisexual disaster' read what you wanted to in it, despite it having a few meanings depending on the context and then labeled her as unreliable/untrustworthy/to be ignored(this is about to become a theme, reading into things that they want to see). Grow up!
He totally has the dumpster fire, bisexual disaster energy she mentioned. He exhibits it all throughout the game, poor guy. He's struggling so hard but trying anyway and I love that she used the term under that context for him. Its endearing in a humorous way.
It's weird the rhetoric you use though, because you love Varric and she's the mother of Varric, but that's okay(not for some of you though because some of you also wanted to fuck Varric and you're mad you didn't get to despite his story and why that would never work, how dare she! Right?), she's only an issue when she has something to say about your precious Love Interest, Lucanis. Because it doesn't fit what you want.
Canon won't always cater to you, and that's okay. We as adults should be able to accept that, but time and time again this fandom proves that the reality of it is, despite age, you're all a bunch of children fighting over your favorite toy in the toybox.
The theme I am noticing which I'm not sure if there is any significance in it but its there, is that the loudest and most vocal people getting on their soap boxes about this, are middle aged, straight, white women. Who also all seem to have read the ACOTAR series(a court of thorns and roses by Sarah J. Maas) and think that is peak romance...
The best way I have heard that series described to date is: "A court of horny fairies". No shade to SJ.M but if all of you reading this series think this is peak romance, that sets the whole stage for why you hate what MK has to say about Lucanis.
Lucanis being canonically Demisexual, throws a whole spanner into the works of what people likely went into this game expecting. Hell, I think all the romances in this game irked people because it required you to actually get to know the companions and bond with them; rather than skip all the emotional importance of relationships and just go back to your tent/room/bed and do the horizontal tango.
(This is not me invalidating some of the fandoms grievances about wishing there was more content for the romances, that is a separate issue and not what is being discussed here.)
But I digress.
A lot of people's entire notion of the Antivan Crows is based on Zevran and what he had to say in Origins. The brothel raised slave, who had his entire life destroyed by the Crows who bought him. Including killing the person he loved in this whole plot of betrayal and etc.
My point is, the guy who reads cringey sex poetry to you because you look sad should not be the standard of what all Crows in Antiva are about, though I do agree that most of the houses are Morally Bankrupt, and I still believe they are in Veilguard you just don't see it because there's an occupation to focus on, though Ivenci, Crow!Rook and Lucanis all still offer insight into how bad it is to be raised a Crow(not Ivenci in terms of Crow raising, I just understand their sentiment on hired killers ruling Antiva. They have some good points.).
You certainly won't find me arguing the point people make about Crows being trained in the art of 'seduction'. But please for the love of Andraste realize that seduction doesn't always mean sex. Seducing someone has several different meanings and sex is just one of them.
Seduction is manipulation, using your charm to make others do what you want. A perfect example of this is Teia with her former lover Dante when her lips had an influencer serum on them so that when she seduced him and kissed him he'd be drugged and etc.
Just because Zevran(And yes Illario, looking at you, you little sleaze in Wigmaker with guard captain Camille) has a long history of sleeping with his targets it doesn't mean every Crow is going to do that. Mr. Paranoid, Viago doesn't. And I imagine a whole lotta Crows don't. Its an unnecessary couple of steps and hoops to go through if all you want to do is kill your target.
Now, this is where the unhinged hot take comes in.
People took one look at that Pantry Wall Scene with Lucanis and just immediately decided that; "This man fucks, no way he's a virgin." Which... please, how many years did he have to watch Illario do something similar? He watched his cousin seduce Camille and it wouldn't have been the first time he's watched Illario do it with other people.
So, replicating something he's seen does not mean he needs to have done it before or had sex with someone to know what he's replicating(Why are we infantilizing adult virgins? Please stop its quite disgusting). The man's intelligent, calculated, he takes note of things that can help him in any given situation and uses what he's gathered, to his advantage.
There is no way on gods green earth, Lucanis needed to have had sex before to know how to be Mr. cool, suave and charismatic in that scene. I don't even understand the logic behind why a virgin couldn't do that. He reads romance novels, highly likely some of it smut, the guy's not naive by any means. You can be the most perverted virgin on this planet, know how to do what he did, and not require having sex to know how to do it...
Now this is where it get's more into unhinged territory and the one I am personally bothered by, like a lot...
The other argument as to why they must be right about Lucanis not possibly being a virgin, is that Caterina would have never allowed him to "not ace all his classes" since he was to be the future First Talon.
Like... what the actual fuck???
The insinuation that is there is just so sickening to me that I don't even really know how to respond or feel when I see the argument.
Like you're telling me that his Grandmother, did what? Sat in the room ala medieval royalty style and made sure whoever his seduction trainer was, what? Fucked him? So he'd know how to fuck a target? And failing that mental image, you're saying Caterina forced him to have intercourse for the job as a part of training???
Like guys... for real... what is the argument you are trying to make here??? Because every single outcome for this explanation is not a good one.
I can't obviously speak for the Demisexual side of things where he can bond with someone and therefore want sex, since I am purely Asexual and will never want to in my life(don't mistake my asexuality for my trauma, pls and thank you. They are separate entities.), but this context is just so fucked up.
At best if Lucanis had to have sex with someone he didn't care for/bond with, like a trainer/prostitute/target/whatever, he would be bored and disinterested. But at worst, repulsed, disgusted.
So, regardless, this is SA... by proxy at Caterina's own hand! Because we know for a fact that he cannot say no to his grandmother. And she'd have forced him through this training, and he would have just bowed his head and went along like a good little boy.
Not wanting sex = a hard no in the face of consent and so with all due respect(which is none) What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
Saying yes under duress is not a Yes. Its a No!
Why are you even insinuating this is a thing rather than just accept he's a virgin? Are you so tone deaf outside of your own headcanons and "needs" that you can't understand why this is such a fucked up thing to want to be canon?
Is it not bad enough that Caterina abused those boys in other ways? But apparently that's not enough, so you want to lump this on them too?
When I tell you the amount of users on tumblr I have blocked already who have this opinion... fuck that shit. As both someone on the Asexual spectrum and survivor of SA, this is just beyond words.
The fandom has taken to making Viago the only other person besides Neve/Rook that Lucanis has or can canonically bond/bonded enough with to try anything, before he seemingly gave up, which understandable, got bigger things on his plate. (I have no objections to this theory. I love the idea personally, even if it might not be purely fact)
Lucanis and Emmerich talk about this in banter. So, it's clear he has no interest in sex(not saying the guy doesn't get his own rocks off, he's a human, he has needs, he can do his thing) until someone he bonds with comes along. So, again... why fandom? Why?
Personal headcanon is fine, but Andraste's holy cabbage... don't go spreading this one around like its canon, hand delivered by god.
I don't even subscribe to the endgame sex scene, after the fade prison, with Lucanis being the first time they have sex. I believe the first time is off screen, and I appreciate writerfromshikahr's take on this. I kinda feel this vibe too.
Which funnily enough is one of the other arguments that they have for why Lucanis can't be a virgin, because he "looks too experienced" in that post fade prison scene. And at this point fandom weirdo's... fuck off... all he did was hold himself over you and kiss you, that's all you saw.
You have no bloody idea what happened after that fade to black. And if it was his first time in that moment, which like I said I don't personally subscribe to, you have no idea how he acted once clothes did start coming off. Because we never saw it.
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I'm pretty drained after writing out this entire post which has taken over 2 hours, so if I forgot to mention anything I apologize. But I couldn't stay silent anymore since it was really hard to have to sit there and see some of the takes from people in this fandom. But I guess at this point I should expect it because half the fandom is so down bad they want to fuck Vorgoth after all...
When I say I will be heavily monitoring this post and will not be afraid to block more users on this platform, I very much so mean it. I'm not having any of you degenerates coming in my replies and being complete asshats about this topic. Because I understand this topic far too well to let anyone do that.
Though if you do come in, thank you for alerting me to your presence and showing me your face so I can block more of you.
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what are your thoughts abot how Damian and Tim's relationship is portrayed in most fanfics?
personally, although I like the angst part of their relationship I wish there was more fanfics where they're closer and have real siblings dynamic (like u know they 'hate' eachother but they would destroy anyone who would want to hurt their brother)
oh, boy, do i have a lot to say about this one. buckle in, folks.
i feel like a lot of the time, if they're in a fic together and the fic author doesn't like one of them, the other is going to be mischaracterized to hell and back. sometimes... both are mischaracterized.
i'm all for a fanon interpretation of a character- obviously, because i have fanon interpretations in my fic too at least a wee bit- but sometimes it goes too far and it no longer feels like we're reading about the same character
let's talk about Tim.
Tim doesn't have a good view of himself or his standing in any emotional aspect. which is often misconstrued about him believing that he was Jason's replacement (neither he nor Bruce thought this, but it was Bruce's fear), or that his worth as Robin wasn't enough. that's not true at all. i'll say it again here: Jason didn't nearly kill Tim at Titan's Tower, nor did he go there to kill Tim. and Tim fought him back. he even told Jason to his face:
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"you can't be that good" "I am."
he knows he's a damn good Robin! he trained with the best, he helps lead the YJ! he doesn't doubt that he was the best person for the job. but when it comes to the emotional aspect of Robin, i think this is where Tim stutters
this is because of how Tim's parents showed their affection.
i think canon neglects that aspect of his trauma, which is why so many people hang onto it. in the comics, Tim is shown to have a lot of friends both in and out of suit. he's abrasive and isn't afraid to ask the hard questions. but he is riddled with self worth issues. his parents were barely around him, they didn't know him well at all. and they loved him, but from a distance.
Tim now sees himself as someone that can receive love from a distance. he is incredibly self reliant, and has been from a young age. he sees all of his accomplishments as obligations. he does well at school because he had to. he takes care of himself because he had to. and in his mind, taking up Robin was partly another obligation. he does his job well because he has to, and he might doubt this sometimes like anyone else, but at the end of the day he is confident in his ability to get shit done.
now, the emotional part of Batman and Robin is where i believe i enjoy a fanon interpretation more. he actually does have a good relationship with Dick, but I'm not too sure about Bruce at this point. this topic is nuanced because Batman writers make him so diabolical at times to the point that i would consider it ooc. but other times they're very close and Bruce admits this. so i replace it in my head with a more stable and realistic version that i've seen written by fic authors very well.
Tim views himself as someone who is there for a job: help Batman. but there is a lot of wonder and awe there. his favorite Robin was Dick. (I'll say this again so everyone hears me: his favorite Robin was Dick. yes you are allowed to have nuance and put Jason in there as someone he looked up to as well, please do. but put some respect on Dick's name!) now that he's working with Dick Grayson, someone he admires so much, as well as getting the honor to wear the Robin suit, he feels more like himself than he has in years. he's good at this, and it's also fun. he meets so many people and he gets to make a difference in the world. yes, it's a job, but it's also very freeing
he never did this be Bruce's son, or to replace Jason. his relationship with Bruce started off extremely rocky, with Tim forcing himself into his life in some way because he believed that Batman was going to get himself killed or get someone else killed, or Batman would cross the line. and Gotham would lose the only person who had such unwavering optimism for them. he and Bruce come to an understanding of being partners but not father and son. Bruce doesn't want to open himself up to that hurt again. but we all know Bruce, and that's not what ended up happening. Bruce would never be the same person he was before, but he is not incapable of love.
Tim would not understand that change. I'd get more into this but i don't want this post too long and i wanna save it for when i'm not supposed to be sleeping and when i'm writing one of my Tim fics for once. all we really need to know is that Tim's emotional intelligence is dogshit, and him coming to see Bruce as a father, and Bruce seeing him as a son, would baffle him. because his parents love him... at a distance. and Bruce sees him every day. that's not how it's supposed to work, right?
so.
sometimes, Tim is treated like a porcelain doll who can do no wrong. many aspects of his canon has been altered by fanon to be "worse" than it is. his neglect by his parents did, indeed, happen, and it affects him deeply. but his parents weren't like. beating him, or leaving him without food or shelter or supervision. Tim was clever enough to get around that supervision all on his own. which is why they should have been there in the first place. (they should have been there regardless). and emotional neglect is still a very real issue??? no one has to make it "worse" by making the Drakes out to be monsters. i think Jack often emotionally manipulated Tim when he was around, and I don't know if Jack was even aware that he did so. (which is why i can see some people delving into that nonexistent relationship that DC gave us, and finally giving those implications more depth. there are a lot of good fics that go over this)
often it's hard to read a fic for Tim because they go too hard into making Tim an anxious shy ball of sunshine. Tim is weird, and he stalked the Bats, he stalked Nightwing, he broke into Titan's Tower before he even became Robin. he's a weirdo. he fits right in with the Bats for that reason. some people make him out to be the victim or some kind of damsel in distress, and sometimes we get to see a phenomena where other characters talk like a book about emotional intelligence that their therapist gave them. which is... fine, if you're just writing to write it, maybe helping yourself. but let's take a step back and see Tim is not like that. he is a very capable person, and his not some "uwu, woe is me, i'm so shitty at everything and if you even look at me wrong i'll cry." i honestly believe that Tim is the type of character to hate crying in front of someone and even if he was actively dying he'd be holding back those tears.
whereas Damian? gets the opposite treatment??
granted, i don't actually know too much about Damian, but i at least try to understand him and his background
he's the youngest of them, and i think many people forget that Damian isn't a reader of the comics like we are. he wasn't going into that family with the emotional connections to these characters and their backstories like we did. he was taught about these people, the idea of them. like how we could be taught in class about people from a long time ago. and i can ensure you that Damian was not taught proper emotional intelligence, nor would he have the best grasp of it himself when he was younger than 9 years old. imagine all of your teachers and also your mother told you about these people and their accomplishments, and then told you that the person all of them look up to is your father. the person that you want nothing more than to know, to see, because the people around you talk about him so highly. someone you haven't gotten to meet yet, because you aren't "worthy." can you imagine being told all your life that you are not worthy to see your father yet? and not knowing if he believes that too?
but one day, you are going to be by his side as his son. i don't want to get too into the culture of the Al Ghul family because i don't actually know that much (i'm sure someone would know more about this, feel free to add on if you want to), but this is important to Damian. it's important to his mom. it's important to his grandfather, the leader of an extensive organization that stretches hundreds of years.
then he gets dropped off in a different country, culture, language, and family and he finds that things are not as he had been told his entire life. his father has many flaws, they do not believe the same importance of a blood tie as his family back home does. they question his entire upbringing to his face many times, they question his mother who he loves deeply. he's nine years old. imagine yourself in that position. you don't know yet what role you're playing in an adult's life, but you want to. desperately. you want to know where you stand. you want a hug. not to mention that Damian actually is a very emotional kid. he was taught to shove that deep, deep down, and not let that out.
too many people write Damian as if he was a "feral" kid which is kind of not something to put on him? i don't like it both because he wasn't feral, he was an asshole. there's a difference. and because it feels like a microaggression?? at times?? because once again... the culture that he is from... is important.
they have been racially profiled for many many years... and yes, everything that you read is political whether you want it to be or not. the act of reading is political. you should definitely be aware of what a writer's goal is when they were giving something to you. you should be reading deeper. again, i'm not from his culture and i can't say if it is an insult/insensitive joke or not, nor am i saying everyone who's made the joke before is a bad person. i have made jokes about Tim being a feral kid before and whatnot. i'm saying that no matter who you are, it is your responsibility to think critically about your media and kindly about other people. it feels uncomfortable to me because i know how wrongly the Al Ghuls (specifically Talia) have been treated by writers in the past. and Damian is an extension of that bias. just look at how many times they try to push Ian Wayne on us. or how they'll pull back on Damian's character development when talking about the Al Ghul family.
this probably isn't my topic to write about, at least not before i learn more about it. but since i get a fair amount of viewership, maybe someone will listen to me that won't listen to someone of color that has already pointed this out many times. with the comics fandom, and Batman fandom specifically sometimes, people don't care to think further about why the characters of color are so often and conveniently left out or forced into an archetype. take that as you will
so! he has spent his entire life believing he had to live up to two great legacies, both of which are VERY different. the intricacies of the Al Ghul family are often boiled down to pure evil by both fanon and canon writers, which dulls Damian's resolve and reasoning for what he had done, or makes it hard to connect to him. he has since learned more about who he wants to be and has come to respect his family in many ways. excuse me if i'm wrong, but i think part of why Damian came so hard for Tim was because Tim had everything Damian wanted. he had a place by Batman's side as both his son and his partner, and was very well respected by Batman and Nightwing both. he's older, more mature, he has stature in both this society Damian now has to fit into and within the family dynamic. considering Damian grew up in an assassin cult that solved threats to their dynamics or positions in power by murder, it wasn't a far leap for a child from that environment to make. he was modelling what he had been taught his entire life.
think about the mistakes that you made as a kid. and i don't mean something silly or funny now, i'm talking something that makes you feel ashamed. embarrassed. hurt. something that perhaps now as an adult, you reflect on as being totally uncool. and i want you to think about if maybe your environment had a role to play in that. maybe you made an insensitive joke that your mom or dad would have found funny, and someone pointed it out and reasonably made you feel like a jerk. shit happens. but you hopefully grew from that.
now imagine that mistake was you hurting someone.
yes, he was annoying. he was bratty, at times. he could be a little calculating shit. he hurt people with both his words and his weapons. Tim obviously had many many many reasons to be upset about his treatment- but I fear that most of his anger ended up directed at the older people in their lives that were supposed to be the ones to do something about it!
and though i hate that Tim went back to being Robin (it feels redundant), i have seen panels that show that the two of them working side by side after Damian and Tim both went through some life and perspective altering events both together and alone, has made Tim see Damian as his little brother, and vice versa. Damian has grown so much and many people just... don't care. no matter their reasoning for hating Damian, it's unfair to not look further than those cutting words written decades ago, or to bring up his mistakes every time you want to be mad at him. and i think it does a disservice to Tim to make him a bleeding heart about this when he has clearly forgiven Damian and cares about him. he rags on Damian like any older brother would, and Damian makes remarks like a younger brother would. personally, i think the two of them are doing pretty good right now
the development of their characters is actually so interesting within the canon aspect, even if they can fumble the ball every now and then. and the mischaracterization takes away the value that their canon relationship has. i personally love reading fics that have Damian and Tim teaming up. in aus where one thing changes and Tim and Damian become brothers later, i think it's actually so silly and fun when Damian respects Tim or thinks he's cool. or even without the au aspect! just like, a fic where the two of them are working together and it's either silly or serious, Damian having a begrudging respect for Tim and Tim being protective over Damian, etc etc, is sooooo much fun
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yanderes-galore · 3 days ago
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Self aware Arthur hcs
Arthur Morgan my beloved.... 🥺
Yandere! Self-Aware! Arthur Morgan Concept
Pairing: Romantic
Possible Trigger Warnings: Gender-Neutral Darling, Obsession, Manipulation, Self-Aware yandere, Stalking, Possessive/Protective behavior, Kidnapping/Isolation, Forced relationship.
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Arthur is, story-wise, the first playable RDR protagonist who could be self-aware.
At first he probably doesn't realize he's meant to be your host.
He's essentially your puppet, one for you to use to interact with his world.
It's a weird experience....
For example, Arthur no doubt experienced death countless times.
Be that from you accidentally getting him killed or something story related...
Arthur experiences each loaded save like it's some sort of nightmare or dream.
When Arthur begins noticing something off, like deja vu or events that should have killed him...
That's when he senses you.
He's no longer just another piece of code, he's more alive than all the rest.
Like a virus he's given sentience, which can soon spread to John and Jack once you swap characters or games.
Arthur has trouble comprehending it all at first.
Yet soon he ends up growing attached to your presence on the other side of the screen.
It has a certain familiarity to it.
It's amusing the amount of things Arthur lets you do to him.
One of my favorites is the fact that RDR2 has such a focus on outfits.
There's times when you aren't doing a mission that you'll drag Arthur to a clothing store or barber shop.
Arthur originally finds it degrading.
He's a hardened killer, a murderer, an outlaw...
But you're doing him up and cleaning him, making him look civilized.
Eventually he actually doesn't mind it.
Admittedly he's flustered at the fact you can SEE the bathing scene since he feels your presence there... yet grows used to it.
If anything that may coax romantic feelings towards his player since you're seeing him at his most vulnerable.
Most of Arthur's life ends up revolving around you, actually.
He quite literally experiences multiple lifetimes with you.
There's times you make him a better person... times you make him worse than he ever was...
Then there's times you accidentally toss him off a cliff looking for dinosaur bones.
There's a good amount of experiences Arthur has had with you.
He can hear your every mutter to yourself too, along with whenever you walk away from the game to process something.
He's intrigued that deaths in this game affect you as much as him... even if it's not the first time you saw them.
Arthur's surprised by how attached he's gotten to you.
He often listens to you speak, sometimes even addressing him.
You'll sometimes ridicule you and him for a wrong button press, or laugh about something stupid...
Arthur has lost count of how many times you ran his horse into a tree....
However, seeing your reaction is almost worth it.
I imagine with Arthur, the more times you play, the more his sentience develops.
Soon he's finding ways to alter his environment... which he then uses to interact with you.
If he considered anyone his partner, it's you.
You've seen pretty much every part of him by this point... every desire.
He even misses you when you're away from the game for months... or years.
Gaining more control of his environment should be able to help limit that.
Arthur loves doing nearly everything with you.
He learns to enjoy fishing, hunting, the games, you making him all fancy...
Hell, the robberies are fun too.
He hates to admit it at first... but he's infatuated with a person out of his world.
Once Arthur can alter the game, I imagine he'd try to lock you in Chapter 2?
Most of the gang is alive and Micah's in jail.
In fact, Arthur just ends up barring you from Micah's mission altogether.
He'd rather him rot there, honestly.
Arthur may even make other objectives available that normally are only available in other chapters or with John.
Surprise! You can go past Blackwater now as Arthur.
He may even just make the whole game available to you just to keep you playing as him.
Which I imagine pisses John off later.
He originally does subtle changes which makes you wonder if you accidentally modded your game or not...
Only for him to soon just overhaul the whole thing.
Why not go further?
What if he pulls a Monika from DDLC at times and pauses the game to talk to you directly.
He likes checking in on you, even if you are currently terrified.
You can't shut down your device, he disabled that.
He may just calmly sit in camp, locking the camera in front of him as he chats with you.
Truth is, he's wanted to do this for a long while.
He's always wanted your attention.
Surely you understand, right?
Don't you also feel a pull towards him?
No? Well... He can change that too.
Arthur technically stalks you.
When you're sleeping or cleaning he discreetly turns on your device to watch you.
He likes keeping an eye on you.
In a way he's protective of you.
Although, once he finds a way to drag you into his digital reality...
He may just end up a bit possessive too.
If you stay in your world, Arthur could lose you.
Another game may grab your attention, or maybe another person will have your heart.
Then he won't matter to you anymore.
He can't accept that thought, not when he's experiencing something so real.
This would be, even if I feel it's unrealistic, what drives him to abduct you into the game.
Arthur would make you part of the gang and protect you like you’re partners.
That, or, he changes everything.
You'd get to live in a house... he'd be your man... and he'd have you isolated all to himself.
He adores you, always has since he became aware of you.
Trying to escape? There's nowhere to go.
He'll use invisible barriers to keep you where he wants you just for your safety.
But there's no way you're going home.
In your world, it just seems you've vanished.
In reality, you're trapped by a video game character and forced to be his lover.
Arthur tries his best to be good to you.
He holds you close, cuddles you at night, kisses you lovingly.
Who knows, maybe he can figure out how to convince you your real life was fake.
That way, he won't have to worry about you trying to escape or hating him.
You'll be all his to keep, to love, to cherish...
Now you'll never leave again.
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aforeffective · 3 days ago
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my headcanons of the socs' families, as created by me at 12:30 am instead of sleeping
(remember that these are just my personal headcanons so even if you disagree with me, please be respectful) (also some characters have less than others, i apologize about that. i promise i love all of them)
this is long so its below the cut.
trigger warning for bad parenting ig? basically it is exactly the level you would expect in the outsiders. there is not graphic explanations of abuse but definitely insinuations
marcia meyrink-mariani
her parents are great and they love her very much and she is their pride and joy
BUT her parents both grew up in lower-income families
they both grew up to have successful careers so they were able to get from like lower-middle class to like upper middle class
and both of her parents are pressured by their own parents to work to keep the status of the family because they want to see marcia get what they could never provide their kids
so her parents and her grandparents all love her very much and have great intentions
but now they are unintentionally kinda neglectful just because they are ALWAYS at work, so that they are able to provide marcia with everything she could ever want
i do think she is very close to her parents when they are actually home though
and because of their pasts of growing up in lower-income families, they aren't as judgmental as the other west side families, hence why marcia isn't as against two-bit and the greasers as her friends are
they liked her relationship with trip but they are also very supportive when she breaks up with him and begins dating two-bit
last name headcanon: meyrink-mariani. meyrink is her mom's maiden name while mariani is her dad's last name.
beverly jitney-bush
her mom is absolutely a toxic pageant/ballet mom (yes bev does pageants and ballet) (or at least she did when she was younger)
her dad is always "gone at work" but both bev and her mom know that he's with his girlfriend (who is probably controversially younger than him. like not too badly to the point where its close to bev's age/being illegal. but definitely like 5-10 years younger than him)
like this is a well known fact. everyone knows that he's cheating but her mom never acknowledges it so everyone else just kinda ignores it
due to the ballet and pageant stuff, bev's mom is very controlling when it comes to her health and her body
bev tries to spend a lot of time at brill's house to escape her mom's control but her mom will find excuses to keep her at home
bev hates both of her parents and honestly just wishes her dad would run off with his girlfriend so that she'd at least only have to deal with one bad parent
cherry valance
okay so she's the only one that has canon family info in the musical so we're going to build off of that
her dad is an alcoholic and not great to cherry or her mom
high school "sweethearts" but not in the same way as brill's parents. brill's parents stayed together cause the love each other. cherry's parents stayed together cause her mom felt obligated
when i was coming up with it, my brain kept thinking of daisy from the great gatsby; how she married tom because she had lost hope of running into gatsby again and then the whole "beautiful little fool" thing and that is definitely how cherry's mom felt when she was pregnant with cherry
and i think because she knows cherry has grown up to not "be a fool", she pushes cherry towards bob in hopes that cherry won't get herself into trouble
due to this daisy comparison, i'm going to say that cherry's dad was probably her mom's second love but she never truly got over her first love
cherry def read the great gatsby and just felt so depressed by daisy because it is literally her mom
i'm going to say that cherry's mom doesn't work so she is home with cherry but she's never really bothering with her. she'd rather hire a nanny to deal with cherry as a kid, and then just lets cherry watch herself as she gets older
bob sheldon
his parents are so neglectful
they just do not have the time (or the want) to care about him
he could be sitting next to them at the dinner table being like "yeah i murdered 30 people and now cherry and i are gonna drop out and go on the run together and get hitched" and they'd be completely not listening like "oh wow, that's nice honey"
he acts out in hopes of getting his parents' attention (iirc randy says this in the book) but even then they literally just do not care
he'll come home to an empty house with a note on the counter that just says 'your problem is dealt with, be smarter next time'
they literally just do not care enough to lecture him or acknowledge him causing trouble
i hc that they also barely even acknowledged his post his death either and cherry had to pressure them to plan the funeral (and she had to do a lot of the work for them) (despite being literally a teenager) (and doing this while dealing with her own grief and also the fallout of all of her friendships)
paul holden
his parents literally only care about him when it comes to what he does for their reputation
as long as he gets good grades, does well on the football team, and can attend fancy business dinners with them and make the family look good, they do not care about anything else he does
they definitely taught him that as long as he does the above, they will throw money to make any problems he has go away
which definitely screwed with both his sense of right and wrong and also just how he views love in general
i view his parents as people who were in love before but don't really care for each other any more but refuse to get divorced (again, all they care about is their reputation to the other wealthy west side families)
so paul has a very toxic view on what love is
and they also taught him nothing about handling emotions
so he is soooo bad with his emotions
his parents definitely having screaming matches at each other a lot
he has definitely snuck out in the middle of the night and went and slept at one of the guys' house because his parents wouldn't stop screaming and he needed sleep
chet baker
chet's parents are not great
his dad is a cop (this is inspired by skyforcherry's chet headcanons because i just love the idea of one of the boys' fathers being on the police force and being one of the people investigating bob's death)
he has two older sisters but they have moved out and gotten married and begun their own families
chet's mom loves chet but when he was a kid, whenever she would do anything for him, chet's dad would yell at her for "spoiling" him and saying that it is emasculating that chet needs a woman's help doing everything (despite the fact that this is literally just a child wanting to spend time with his mom)
chet was also very close with his sisters as a kid, until his dad made him feel bad about it, saying he needed to stop acting like one of the girls
so yeah, his mom and his sisters could barely do anything for chet without his dad complaining that they were making him girly and "messing him up" (not for lack of wanting to. they do love him but their husband/dad can be scary when he's angry) (he's not outright physically abusive but definitely threatens that he would 'be able to get away with it' when he's angry)
so the only people in his house that he can really get attention from is his dogs, but even then his dad will find excuses about how depending on animals for companionship isn't manly
when he is home, chet's dad will be very nitpicky about everything he does. if chet does anything wrong or just in a way he doesn't like, there will be yelling
and he will poke and prod until chet finally reacts and yells back
and then chet's mom will begin crying because she just hates the yelling and fighting
and then chet will feel bad so he'll stop arguing back and just let his dad yell
and after a few minutes, his dad will stop and chet is just so tired of this because it is a cycle where his dad will do this and then apologize and be like "i didn't mean to get that mad, i didn't mean to set off your mother, let's both apologize to her"
and then they do this all over again a few days later (over such minor things)
because of this, chet has learned to avoid home unless he feels like being alone, in which case he'll lock himself in his room with his dogs and avoids interactions with his parents to avoid argument
terrence "trip" dipp
trip lives with his parents, his aunt, and his cousin (melvin)
his uncle passed away, leaving his aunt widowed with a young son so they moved in with trip's family (it was his dad's brother)
trip honestly doesn't interact with his parents much
they're fine. they work, they come home, they all eat together as a family, and then everyone splits off to do their own things
his dad can definitely be harsh, especially to his sister-in-law and he has definitely been caught complaining about having to deal with this "random kid" living in his house (aka his nephew)
trip is very close with his aunt
the reason she moved in is because she has some sort of chronic illness that causes her to get sick a lot, which was only made worse after her husband died
so she moved in to get help with her illness and melvin
it was trip's mother's idea and trip's father only agreed out of respect for his now deceased brother
trip acts annoyed by melvin but he has grown to care for him as a brother (but he would never admit it)
clark "brill" brillstein
okay imo his parents are the best of all the socs' parents
they were high school sweethearts that got married (and pregnant with brill) like within the summer after graduation
because of this, they're younger than the other parents. the others all are in thier 40s, having had their kids in their 20s but brill's parents are only like 36
they are THE parents of the group. if any of brill's friends need anything, whether it's just advice or someone to talk to, literally anything, they go to brill's parents. he has come home to every single one of his friends talking to his parents before. it is a common occurrence.
such a healthy family dynamic
yes they love brill's friends and want to act as their parents but they will never let brill feel sidelined to his friends because of their attention
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fxckn-sxck-fr · 1 day ago
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can you do the yandere dc boys with a hypersexual darling? i really love your writing and im glad you're back, its okay if you dont want to
𝐃𝐂 𝐘𝐀𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐑𝐄 𝐕𝐀𝐑𝐈𝐎𝐔𝐒 𝐖𝐈𝐓𝐇 𝐀 𝐇𝐘𝐏𝐄𝐑𝐒𝐄𝐗𝐔𝐀𝐋 𝐃𝐀𝐑𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐆…
!!! 18+ THEMES, GN reader, mentions of riding in Bruce’s, basic delusional yandere shit, manipulation, mean Dick Grayson, teasing, horny Hal Jordan, Tim being a freak, there’s honestly not much to warn… that’s weird.
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Freaks of Tumblr, I summon thee.
I do want y’all to know that, while I tried to keep the dynamics vague, this has more of a sub + bottom leaning reader. That’s usually my default when it comes to sexual yan!character asks unless specified otherwise. If y’all wanna see a more top and/or dom reader version, hit me the fuck up. I heart obliterating fictional comic book men. It’s actually my specialty.
This is also operating under the assumption that you’ll at least let them help you out when you need it. Like… even if you absolutely hate their guts, you’ll at least call a truce when you need it. A necessary evil kind of thing. Again, if you have something else in mind, let me know.
Bruce Wayne: Contrary to popular belief, playboy Bruce Wayne is not a sex addict. However. He is a darling addict. And while he can’t afford to get nasty all the time, he’ll do his best to accommodate. I can see him letting you ride him while he tries to get paperwork down in his office. Keyword being tries, seeing as his resolve is only so strong. He has a love-hate relationship with your hypersexuality, because while he loves how needy you are for him, his productivity lulls during particularly high spikes in your sex drive. One could say he’s suffering from success in this regard. Oh, noooo, his darling humping the pillows again. Whatever will he do? Guess he’ll have to call in sick again. Tsk. Tsk. What a drag, amiright?
Clark Kent: I think Clark has a difficult time separating sexual desire from romance and intimacy, so even if you view Clark as nothing more than your kidnapper, he’s definitely letting this feed further into his delusions. Surely, this means you love him, right? You arch into his touch and make all those sounds… that has to mean something! It’s because of this that he absolutely gives you what you need whenever you need it. As your (self-proclaimed) husband, it’s his duty to provide for you! And… okay, I’m not saying Kryptonian have some sort of built in horny-detector, but given his power set, he can probably tell when you need a little help. Is your heart beat slightly faster than usual? Don’t worry, honey, he’s on his way home!
Dick Grayson: Oh, he definitely doesn’t mind. The moment he realizes you’re hypersexual, not only does he have an excuse to touch you more, but now he has yet another variable he can manipulate about you. New favorite pass time unlocked: riling you up and teasing you whenever he feels like it. And you bet your ass he’s doing it in public, too. It’s just so cute to see you try to be normal when he knows you’re all flustered. He’s so fucking evil, getting you all sexually frustrated and practically making you beg for him to finally lend a helping hand. Of course, unless if you’ve been bad, he’ll never leave you pent up for too long; he’s got his own needs, too. Having so much control over your conditioning is just so hot for him, you know?
Hal Jordan: Sign him the fuck up. Hal’s probably no better than you, constantly having to keep up with his own sexual needs, so as soon as you finally accept your situation, this is a match made in heaven. Is he mean about it? Sure. But Hal would call you nasty names even if you weren’t so hypersexual, so don’t feel too bad about it. It ain’t sex with Hal Jordan if he didn’t act like a condescending jerk throughout it. Y’all definitely fucking every day (which means he’s 100% bringing you on Lantern missions; he’ll make it work somehow, just you wait), cuz a hypersexual darling coupled with Hal Jordan’s innate horniness is a dangerous thing to behold. This dynamic could not be more perfect for him.
Harvey Dent: So… Two Face lowkey kinda hates it. What do you mean you can’t keep your hormones in check? Come on. Get it together. He can’t always be there to deal with you. He’s got business to attend to, damnit. But Harvey, on the other hand, can almost empathize with you. He understands having impulses you can’t exactly control, and hey… he’s more than willing to help out. Get ready for Harvey’s sweet praises and Two Face’s degrading remarks, cuz of course they can’t agree on a tactic to go about your heightened sexuality. While Two Face wants to just outright bully this behavior out of you, Harvey actually wants to cultivate it as a way to make sure you’ll at least come to him for something. I think it’ll definitely feed into Harvey’s ego, and who knows… Two Face might actually come to like it.
Jaime Reyes: Poor guy would be at a moral crossroad. Khaji Da would be yapping about sudden spikes in your sexual arousal, but Jaime’s all like, “la la la, I can’t hear you,” because while he’s definitely aware of the fact that he’s crossed a few boundaries in the past, this just seems a little too far. He’s still trying to have some sort of respect for you, after all. It’ll definitely take you coming to him directly for him to actually do something about it. Please be patient with him. He’s got an evil fucked up bug in his brain trying to coach him through this, because it’s apparently not enough to just be nervous about anything sexual to begin with. You’re gonna have to call the shots until he gets the hang of things.
Tim Drake: Pot, meet kettle. Tim already has a shit ton of problems, so we might as well add hypersexuality to the list. Now, in my eyes, Tim is the biggest sub known to man, so if you’re the same way, this shit is gonna be messy. Like, absolutely no control happening. Y’all are just rubbing bodies against each other until something happens. But on the other hand, being more dominant means training him how to fucking behave. Bro is not above lunging at you and humping your thigh. Teach him how to properly touch you, and then you’ll maybe give him a reward. You might not be able to get rid of his fucked up tendencies, but you can at least use them to your advantage.
Wally West: He’d find it absolutely adorable. Much like Dick, this is a perfect way to manipulate you, but he’s at least much nicer about it. As long as you’ve been on your best behavior, his teasing isn’t anything malicious or cruel. Don’t take advantage of how nice he is, because he can quickly turn this into a learning experience for you. Make sure you stay on his soft and sweet side. I can totally see him reassuring you and talking you through it, his touches gentle and loving as to not turn you off. Upon discovering how hypersexual you are, he’d definitely coax you into letting him lend a hand like you were some sort of scared animal. “Hey, it’s okay… it’s not like you can help it, right? Here, wouldn’t it be much better if I helped? No, no, sweetheart, it’s no bother for me. In fact, I’d love to help. That’s it. Come on.”
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resident-idiot-simp · 2 days ago
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I don't know if you do requests but what if- now here me out.
What if in some universe Victor had raised Laura after Logan was gone?
What if that blonde menace to society took an oath years ago to protect Logan's kits and despite how much he's glad the old fuck is dead, Laura didn't do anything wrong and theres still time "To teach her how to let 'it' out" it being the feralness and the "wild" as he calls it.
What if wade had met the one raised by sabretooth to be a cold blooded killer? Because obviously this wouldn't be right, so she would get pruned with the other sabre but- BUT.
What if, just for a second, Wade makes her feel understood. He's not angry at her for growling and biting him. Scratching or her following her insticts to kill first ask later?
What if for the first time, someone other then her father and her "uncle victor" seen her as more then just a wild child and more of someone who deserves love just for being who she is?
And yeah, Laura gets the Nickname Runt Jr? Sometimes just Runt, sometimes cupcake, or other demeaning names. But for once someone calls her sweet things because they want her to feel safe.
Sweetheart isn't an insult anymore, but a pet name (not that shes a pet or anythint NOsirey!)
Darling is genuienly said and not growled at her or teased.
And if you really REALLY wanna break some hearts? Have this universe's Wade remember Origins James and how similar Laura and him are. That would really hurt.
Someone needs to be here to hold this little girls hand when she grows up. And clearly Logan cant.
Anyway! Bye!
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I kind of do requests. If it's something I feel I can actually elaborate on or write I usually do. For this I don't feel like I can I am sorry. I feel this way for 2 reasons
1) My interpretation of Victor (blame this fic) is not someone who should be around Laura. Or really anyone for that matter and especially not Logan.
However I feel that this is a perfect starting point for a different interpretation of the character than my own. I would genuinely love to read this if someone wrote it.
2) I have written them interacting before and Laura has more of an on-site thing with him. I think even as a child she would attempt to murder him. She read the comics and has opinions.
Anyways break down of what you did write:
I love the idea that even as fucked up as their relationship was and maybe how much they hated each other they did have an understanding. If it came down to it they would protect their own if they ever had kids and couldn't themselves take care of them.
Probably some pack mentality that was left over. Also the fact that no mutant child deserves to be by themselves let alone a feral.
I also agree that Victor would make everything much worse with her Logan is definitely the more tame of the two. Thus Victor would have no qualms teaching her to not be as reserved.
I love the idea that Wade has to deal with this because he would know what a typical Laura would be like so this would take him by surprise. There's no way he isn't charmed I don't feel like it's possible.
He would get it I mean considering he kills for a living so they would find a kinship in that, but also the fact that he just isn't afraid. Everyone else fears her except for this one maniac who just makes jokes.
She's never met anyone like him how could she not be enamored?
Wade being the first one to treat her with genuine kindness is fascinating. The idea that Victor is not doing anything other then the bare minimum treating her like he would almost treat Logan.
The idea that even if Wade didn't know who Laura was he would know immediately because of how much she acted like James is adorable. That is heartwarming and heartbreaking. Bravo bravo my friend.
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jamesthedigidestined · 1 day ago
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Okay, I’d like to get this out of way: I don’t *hate* Yamato, in fact I can really enjoy him in some instances, but I do hate his portrayal in most media and how arbitrarily important he is. In fact I agree that Yamato wasn’t focused on properly over the series. I don’t mean any disrespect towards you as a person, but these ideas (mostly the unneeded bashing of Taichi and Koushirou) are not something I can stand.
“First of all, since when was Taichi ever closer to Koushiro?”
Literally the first episode? They’re canonically best friends with Sora since before the series starts. A trend that continues very deeply throughout the entirety of 01 and especially OWG. If you need proof of that, I can direct to MANY instances proving such, such as: Taichi inviting Koushirou to summer camp in the novels, Kou calls for Taichi when he's in the Human World, Taichi entrusting Kou to solve the puzzle, etc. It isn’t until 02 that we see Taichi and Yamato having ANY form of positive relationship, and Koushirou is included and typically the one palling the most with Taichi. Taichi and Yamato are 100% Yang and Yin in 01, it even goes so far as to have Taichi as the Sun (Yang) while Yamato has a werewolf, and in the epilogue (which was made before the rest of the series was written) has him go to the Moon (Yin). This is also why they’re so completely incompatible throughout the entirety of 01. They are not close in the slightest. Most of their interactions they’re literally fighting. The Darkness (Yin) within Yamato makes it impossible for him to be close to ANYONE that isn’t Takeru, his brother, or Joe, who is his canonical best friend in 01 and the reason his Crest activates.
“Digimon aint about Taichi and whoever certain fans think he should spend more time with”
While I would LOVE for other characters to be focused on, like Sora or Joe, Taichi is the main character. He is the constant, and any character he spends more time with will be focused on more heavily, so for those who prefer other characters they want to see him interact more with the others so they’ll be spotlighted. Which is also why we’ve seen such a bulk of Taito within the series, because marketing demands it. And, let’s be real here, Yamato alone isn't selling the series, and hasn’t challenged Taichi in ANY capacity for a while. At best we have Tri, but Tri is a train wreck and I don’t really care about it. In 02 he doesn’t really fight against Taichi at all, only punching him to help Taichi re-orient himself, and the same goes even harder for Kizuna. Yamato, narratively, doesn’t have a purpose anymore in that regard.
Again, to reiterate, Taichi and Koushirou’s friendship is NOT “opinion”, it is objective fact that they’re close. Almost every episode of 01 reinforces this fact. One of the closest non-sibling bonds in the entire series, frankly. It is also fact that Taichi and Yamato are NOT close within 01, and we’re only shown them being close *alongside Koushirou* in 02 and Kizuna (kinda). And the only reason Taichi and Yamato are so close is because they achieved Mega, which they only did because they had siblings, and this arbitrary connection was further reinforced in OWG (with the help of Koushirou).
And I’ll say this again: I do NOT hate Yamato. If you take this as hate then you have problems. I do, however, hate his portrayal to various levels in basically everything post-OWG, and in fact I can agree he needed more screen time in certain ways. For one, I hate the fact that he’s some dumb rock star in 02 when blues is more his style. I crave the blues Yamato we never got, jamming out alone with a sad song to let his feelings out, with his friends being his biggest (and almost only) fans (and Jun still, because that's funny). I also hate how little support there is for most of his connections (Joe being his best friend is canon and we BARELY see that, and Sorato is a fucking joke that not even Kakudou remembered to support). Him, Taichi, and Koushirou are like, the most supported what with 02’s camping episode and Kizuna, but that’s mostly Yamato third-wheeling on Taishirou.
So again, I can agree he needed more time, especially exploring his relationship with Joe, but minimizing Taichi’s connection with Koushirou (and, to a lesser extent, Taichi's importance in the series) just to raise Yamato up is just wrong on so many levels. If you can’t really talk about how great a character is without actively minimizing other characters, then that signals some problems to me.
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It really bothers me that from a plot standpoint tai and matt’s relationship was always the the most important even though tai always seemed to be better friends with Izzy and/or sora and while tai’s relationships with sora and izzy are explored in many episodes throughout the series, those relationships were never treated as important come the finale episode of the arc. Just look at Tri; they had an entire movie focused on tai and matt’s parallels and relationship.
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palfriendpatine66 · 9 hours ago
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If you ever have a hard time stomaching the typical Valentine’s Day inspired romance, this low key event/fic collection might just be for you!
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What: an collection of fics that go against a stereotypical Valentine’s Day inspired story or romance plot
- open to any content featuring relationships between any Star Wars characters. Authors: tag accordingly Readers: Don’t like the tags? Don’t read.
When: collection will be revealed 2/14 and remain open for authors to add works
Where: <Ao3 collection found here>
FAQ: I don’t get it..?
This is intended to serve as a diverse collection of anti-valentines fics. Want to focus platonic love? Go for it! Character doesn’t need a relationship to define them? Own it! Hate commercialization of holidays? Go off!
Can it still have a happy ending? Absolutely!
Does it have to? Nope!
Feel free to take one of these flipped romance tropes and run with it if you feel inspired
Valentine’s Day breakup
Last kiss/last time
Divorced ever after
Lovers to friends
Proposal rejection
The sex is bad
First date fail
Left at the altar
Falling out of love
Romance is dead
Bloody Valentine
Valentine’s Curse
Direct questions to @downwithlovesw 💕
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bcacstuff · 16 hours ago
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He’s going from the Highlands to the suburbs. 
Sam Heughan, best known for starring in “Outlander” as the dashing Scotsman Jamie Fraser, takes a darker turn in the steamy thriller, “The Couple Next Door.”
“It just felt like a completely different character,” Heughan, 44, exclusively told The Post.
“I liked the fact that he was ambiguous and you make assumptions about who [my character] Danny is in the first two episodes, and then you reveal more about his past and how complicated it is.”
Premiering Friday, Jan. 17 (9 p.m. on Starz), “The Couple Next Door” also aired in the UK (Channel 4). It follows teacher Evie (Eleanor Tomlinson) and her journalist husband, Pete (Alfred Enoch, “Harry Potter”), who move into an idyllic suburban neighborhood next to traffic cop Danny (Heughan) and his wife, yoga teacher Becka (Jessica De Gouw). 
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Sam Heughan during his video interview with The Post. New York Post
Evie and Pete are more buttoned up, and they’re surprised to learn that Danny and Becka have a nonmonogamous relationship. Soon, the two couples get entangled with each other a little too closely, and events spiral out of control. 
As a morally ambiguous man who rides a motorcycle, Danny is a far cry from the ultimate good guy that Heughan plays in “Outlander.” 
“Jamie Fraser has been an incredible gift of a character and iconic one – one that’s lasted 11 years, eight seasons, 101 episodes. I think it’s rare to get a character like that. It may be a once in a lifetime thing,” said Heughan.
“But, the appeal for ‘The Couple Next Door’ was this morally ambiguous character who, on the surface, is a bit of an alpha male. But deep down there’s just some goodness to him, despite his bad choices.”
As different as the two characters are, both “The Couple Next Door” and “Outlander” involve Heughan doing steamy scenes. 
“I don’t love or hate [doing sex scenes], it’s just a part of the story, I suppose,” he said. 
“But certainly, I guess my time on ‘Outlander’ has given me a lot of education or experience in how to deal with that.”
“The Couple Next Door” even used the same intimacy coordinator he’d worked with in “Outlander,” Vanessa Coffey, Heughan explained. 
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Sam Heughan in “The Couple Next Door.” Starz
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Sam Heughan posing for Flaunt magazine in November 2024. Michael Muller
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Sam Heughan in “The Couple Next Door.”Starz
Since the show filmed in Belgium, it was “a very different kind of production” that “hadn’t really dealt with those kinds of scenes before, or were immersed in sort of the protocol of it,” Heughan said. 
“[Coffey] was really helpful in helping us explore what it is for four characters essentially to have a relationship.” 
Regarding the part of the story where Danny and Becka have a nonmonogamous relationship, Heughan said, “We talked quite a lot about it, because we wanted to get it right. We didn’t want to make it just something salacious. We wanted to show that this couple probably had worked through quite a lot together, and it could work.” 
He added, “I think it is complex and difficult, but ultimately I think it’s probably the most loving that a relationship could possibly be. The fact that they would allow each other to seek pleasure just shows how strong that their bond is.”
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luv-lock · 2 days ago
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Did I told you guys that almost all y/ns are in the same universe and in the same timeline?
Like Spidergirl was the first one to join the family (not exactly) and well she was one of the original members of Teen Titans. She was genuinely in love with Bruce (since she was young) and even confess her feelings but he rejected her and well she later date Dick and the Wally and even slept with Conner but none of these relationships really last. She end up left Gotham for good.
At the same time that Spidergirl joined batfam the first Jester joined Joker and well she was basically a stalker for Robin aka Dick. She even once kidnapped him for sometimes and well... Anyway she left Joker and left that life completely behind. She have a lil son with Dick and basically she's now a mother, living happily.
Silver joined batfam before Jason come around. After his death she left Gotham to study. And now she's back. She's a doctor now and the one who basically take care of everyone. She have a intense relationship with Jason but everything is fine now.
At the same time Kent Y/N was killed by Lex Luthor. He basically bashed her brain... If you get what I mean... After that she come back but she wasn't normal anymore and well she hate Clark because he left her to die. She's now something between dead and alive. At first she couldn't talk normally or even move. And the worst thing was that her mind could understand everything perfectly. Now even though she's petty and bitchy, she's still a part of Clark family.
When Lex killed Kent reader, he took her DNA and made a clone of her, just like what he did with Conner. He used his own DNA and hers to make this child. The Clone looked very much like Clark's daughter but also different. She was a very quiet and sweet child. She wasn't as strong as he wanted her to be but Lex still saw her as his. As his daughter. And so he basically kept her imprisoned in his lab. But she escaped and now she's a part of Clark family.
And then we have Detective Y/N. She joined batfam short after Tim. Bruce saved her before she was killed and well she just joined them right there. She have schizophrenia and she's very well aware of it. She basically see herself as main character in this story. She very lucky and so she never get hurt. Bruce in genuinely is shocked how she's alive. She's in a relationship with Tim and well she's a big pervert... Yes bigger than Spidergirl and she's also more nasty.
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Apparently its just in my brain rn but I wanted to make this list for me or for anyone out there who gets into editing before I do (pleas please please idk how to edit and unless I hyper fixate hard enough, I probably won’t take the time to learn lmao) but anyway this is a list of the Robins and songs (by Taylor Swift so there’s a theme and the list has a finite end) that I desperately need an edit of them with.
Stephanie brown- the man (literally can’t hear the song without thinking of her), mad woman (I can see this with interspersed scenes of her father, fighting villains specifically black mask, and Bruce)
Jason Todd- my tears ricochet (absolutely devastating w/ under the red hood, specifically comic version iykyk the difference between that and the movie), haunted (I need this with Bruce and dick and Tim’s reaction to his death), bigger than the whole sky (similar to haunted but more resigned? And still more about characters responding to his death but still His Death), who’s afraid of little old me (red hood transitional period. You see the vision? I know you do.) look what you made me do (obviously. I keep imagining him listening to this song while being the red hood and it’s great), the Great War (just. The imagery. There’s so much potential here. “maybe it’s the past that’s talking, screaming from the crypt, telling me to punish you for things you never did” with a cut to Batman and Joker would go so hard)
Dick Grayson (there’s really no order to this list is there? Lol anyway.)- never grow up (focused on his relationships with his siblings and then after the bridge with the “wish I’d never grown up” with flashbacks to him as Robin oh my god I’d cry), 22 (idk it feels very early Nightwing to me. I need a happy one for him bc he deserves it. Just an edit of him winning and being iconic), New Romantics (in that same vein, with the titans because it’d be fun), the story of us and I forgot that you existed (him and B fighting because I feel people ignore that they do fight quite often and IFTYE especially feels the right amount of petty and sincere for him, you know?), last but not least (can you tell I love him) Style (this and any love interest he repeatedly dates, I was thinking specifically Barbara but I could also see kory, I just think this song is fun for any relationship that gets rebooted in multiple formats)
Tim Drake- enchanted (as itty bitty Tim Drake or Robin, meeting them at galas and Knowing or just working with the bats in the beginning when he was star struck), mirrorball (“I can change everything about me to fit in” …yeah. This is more a fanon interpretation but I read a really interesting fic where Jason comes back and meets Tim and all he can see is his and dick’s Robin mannerisms in him, and can’t find anything that’s just Tim’s until he’s too tired to pretend anymore and it’s stuck with me) you’re losing me (this would be a sad one of people generally looking over or hating him, specifically Bruce calling him Jason, finding out dick made Damian Robin, Damian and Jason verbally attacking him, the events that led to Red Robin) Tis the damn season (for when Red Robin arc is over and he’s still angry but doesn’t know what else to do)
Damian Wayne: a place in this world (it’s not his aesthetic, but the themes of the song are very raised-in-the-league-trying-to-be-a-functioning-family-member), the best day (with him and Dick generally him getting to be a kid, I’m not crying you are), mean (I think the “swords and weapons that you use against me”would be funny with him drawing assorted weapons on people), Innocent (“your string of lights is still bright to me oh, who you are is not where you’ve been” oh my god. I just feel like he needs someone to mean this about him) exile (Talia leaving him, even if she meant to do it for his own good, having to recon with not being in the league anymore), this is me trying (I don’t have words for this one, it’s a vibe)
Bonus:
Anti-hero: you can give all of them different verses that fit best, but I think they’d all sing the song and feel like it was them and I’d love to see an edit of them to it.
Epiphany: Alfred. You don’t even have to listen to it, just look at the lyrics and you’ll Get It.
robin: this I see for both Jason and Dick, so probably split between them.
Mastermind: first off, shameless TimSteph shipper, not even necessarily romantically, it’s just that they’re soulmates and I don’t care what canon says; I know that because they told me personally. Anyway the song is from both of their perspectives. They both think they’re the mastermind
State of Grace: also TimSteph. Fight me.
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