#I hate you kishi but I love you

[twomiddlefingersforthehaters]

"The moon is beautiful, isn't it?"

It is used to confess to someone you like while under the moon. This phrase is a more poetic way of saying 'I love you'. [it's also an indirect way of saying "I love you"] Japanese itself is a very "indirect" language. You don't have to admit things directly because that's impolite or rude. Why I say that is bcz, Kishi place them under the full moon to share their feelings indirectly and also directly. Japanese people prefer indirect ways of expressing their feelings and emotions. A relationship starts when people tell each other their feelings. Expressing your feelings through words has not always been seen as a natural thing. People express their love and affection through their actions. [Although the main ways of expressing love in Japanese culture differ from Western culture]

What does "friend" mean to you??

[Notice how Sasuke averts his eyes from Naruto (as if he's shy or nervous to get a confession from him) while asking 'what does friend mean to him'?]

Raw (Naruto): 友達だからだ

Romaji: tomodachi... dakarada

Literal: because we're friends

Raw (Sasuke): それはかつて聞いた... お前にとってのそれは･･･ いったい何なんだ?

Romaji: sore wa katsute kīta ... omae nitotte no sore wa ･･･ ittai nanina nda?

Literal: I heard that before... but what the heck does that mean to you?

[As Naruto continues to give the same 'we're friends' response, he becomes visibly angry, clearly displeased with the answer]

Raw: それ説明しろって言われてもオレも正直よく分かんねェーよそんなの…

Romaji: sore setsumei shiro tte iwarete mo ore mo shōjiki yoku wakanne yo sonna no …

Literal: Even if you ask me to explain it.... I honestly don't properly understand... that kind of thing...

Raw: ただお前のそーゆー背負ってゴチャゴチャしてるとこ見てっと・・なんでか・・

Romaji: tada omae no so you seotte gochagocha shiteru toko mite tto... nande ka ...

Literal: It's just that.... When I see you carrying burden on your back... getting all messed up.... for some reason...

Raw: ・・・オレが・・・痛てーんだ

Romaji: ...ore ga... Itate nda

Literal: ...I'm.... hurting...

Raw: すっげー痛くてとてもじゃねーけどそのままほっとけねーん だってばよ!

Romaji: sugge itakute... totemo janē kedo sonomama hottokenē n dattebayo !

Literal: It exceedingly painful. But not just as awfully...as it is now...I can't just leave you alone!

The word Naruto using was 痛く(itaku) meaning- exceedingly or extremely pain. It's not just 'Ouch! It hurts!' kind of pain. It means HE IS IN "EXTREME PAIN". The magnitude and intensity of that 'pain' is so overwhelming that it affects your body and mind.

What was the reason for Naruto & Sasuke's pain to be more emotional??

N. B. When Naruto says that he understands the pain of Gaara's loneliness and Gaara says that he feels pain in his heart... the word used for pain in both cases is 「痛い」 (itai). 「痛く｣ (itaku) is a similar word, but with a more intense and deeper meaning.

Because of those words Naruto says to Sasuke, his face feels a mixture of emotions: touched, or surprised. Sasuke's expression here is probably one of the most emotional expressions you have ever seen. This made him confess his feelings for Naruto (And It was hella poetic (༎ຶ⌑༎ຶ)

In Sasuke's monologue his words are very deep and intense (the choice of Kanjis are complicated). It is also way too direct and carries a lot of intimacy.

Raw: そしてなぜだか安心したんだ

Romaji: soshite nazeda ka anshin shita nda

Literal: And I don't know why, somehow.... I felt relieved.

Raw: だがそれは．．．同時に弱さだと思った

Romaji: daga sore wa ... dōjini yowa sada to omotta

Literal: But... at the same time... I thought It was a weakness.

Raw: だから・・お前の苦しむ姿を見る度・・そう・・・オレも---

Romaji: dakara ... omae no kurushimu sugata o miru tabi ... sō... ore mo...

Literal: that's why. . . Every time I see you appearing to be suffering. . . that's right I, too...

Raw: オレが 痛くなったんだ

Romaji: ore ga itaku natta nda

Literal: I became pained.

Sasuke also using the same word 『痛く』 and both of them were in such intense pain that words couldn't explain how much it was. It really gives- "If you truly love someone you can feel every joy, sadness and pain of the other as if they were your own". Once you get that, it's easy to understand his reaction to Naruto saying he felt his pain. Sasuke reacted that way because he realized his love was reciprocated. That this feeling of 'friendship' that Naruto was going on about was the same thing that Sasuke had been feeling all this time and it was never friendship. It was more than that. And It was love.

[mixu]

The sad constraints of shônen

I just read this post and, aside from making me question really, what the fuck Kishimoto intended by publishing Naruto in the most shônen of shônen magazines, reminded me of a recent conversation I had with a friend.

We had not seen each other in like eighteen years so it was a pleasant surprise to find out he also enjoyed anime and manga. However, my heart broke when he told me he had not enjoyed Naruto like, at all. He had missed the point of the story. I was about to start a fierce defense of this big piece of my heart when something occurred to me and said: "Try watching it as if it were a romance." I swear I could see his whole world realigning behind his eyes.

So yeah, what was the plan Kishi? I feel like you shot yourself in the feet.

[rozaceous]

argh im filled with rage itachis such an asshole i love it

isn't he just the worst? ৻( •̀ ᗜ •́ ৻)

this ch was 'oh this HAS to be itachi pov' and then me going 'WAIT NO I DON"T WANNA BE IN THIS GUY"S HEAD'

and then i did it anyway but god. this dude.

[kyoukamybeloved]

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[hibiscusseaart]

this hashirama death post made me so mad actually

i loved the idea of him dying bc of some illness. cancer for example, like he regenerates really fast, so his cells has to multiply really fast, so it means if his immune system misses any cancer cells, they would multiply fast.

and now it's fucking ruined bc of that stupid plate on his shoulder and the fact that he was buried in it

WHO fucking killed him???? HOW?????? i don't believe he could be poisoned bc of his regeneration

the only thing that comes to mind smth instant that kills immediately but it has to be FAST for him not to notice that he didn't protect himself

BUT WHO

HOW

i fucking hate you kishi answer the question

[0lshadyl0]

Hi would it be alright to request yandere romantic hcs for Naruto please with a female reader if possible maybe she was part of his team in his younger days ; love to see what you come up with ^-^

I love this question, especially because of the concept of being a teammate, basically being the third member of team 7, since I think that another female character should have been the tri-lead and not Sakura (It's not that I dislike Sakura, in fact, I feel that she is a character with a lot of potential but undervalued by her author who only went out of her way to develop Sasuke. Sakura is a wasted potential like almost all the women in the series, which It makes me think that Kishi doesn't know how to write women… or he's lazy because they aren't Uchihas or Sasuke)

In fact, I am thinking in the future of making a fic with a team 7 made up of Sasuke, Naruto and Hinata, since they are the respective reincarnations of Indra, Asura and the descendant of Hamura, but that will be for another post

yandere Naruto Romantic Headcanons

Well, here I am going to develop Naruto in his early age, that is, Naruto from the first part of the series, it does not include shippuden, the last and I will pretend that Boruto does not exist (don't ask me questions about Boruto, I didn't see the series and I am not interested beyond the concept of Boruto's visual power but only because it would be a development of the byakugan not because I am interested in the character), so here we will see the child version of a twelve-year-old yandere Naruto (if I remember correctly, that's how old he was at that time) until he leaves the village with Jiraiya, keeping this in mind, let's continue

We all know the sad story of Naruto and how painful his childhood was, without parents, hated by the entire village, without friends and all that drama

The important thing is that from all that negligence and lack of human interaction, the need was born in him to attract attention in any way possible

basically what I want to say here is that he would turn yandere for literally anyone who pays him the slightest bit of attention and above all, this is key, who treats him well

I'm not talking about great charitable gestures or kindness, I'm talking about treating him with cordiality, basically the first principle of a decent human being (yes, that's how badly he's been treated)

He would trust you 100% if you approached and proposed to be his friend (let's remember part of a flashback in some filler chapter where he went into a dangerous forest to look for a kunai from an enemy ninja of the village just because some stupid and very bad-hearted children said that they would be his friends if he brought said weapon, basically sending him to die if it weren't for Iruka-sensei)

Another thing is that Naruto is tremendously obsessive, just look at how he behaves with his teammates, that will not compare to the obsession he developed with you.

and we must take into account, here Sakura does not exist in his head, you are the prettiest girl in the village and he has made his intentions very clear to you that in the future he wants to be your lover (boyfriend, in a innocent way since he is a kid)

He will not see mistakes or defects, he will fight with Sasuke or Kakashi if one of those two scolds you or disrespects you

he will not like your friends, not because he is jealous or that he thinks they are going to steal you from him, but it is more because of his insecurity and fear of being alone again, that is something you can repair If you make your friends also friends with him

He is clingy to the extreme but not very observant in the sense that he won't always remember your favorite color or food, but at least he remembers special dates.

your enemies are his enemies and he does hold grudges against people who hurt you

He will also see you as someone above him and everyone, he is like a worshiper (remember how he thought well of Sakura? It's the same but amplified) you are a being incapable of making mistakes in his eyes

His beloved's opinion is very important to him, so much so that it is above anyone else, above his teacher, Sasuke, Iruka, the ramen guy or even the Hokage.

At this stage he will be a little annoying, irritating and clingy, but nothing dangerous, a child in love, the most dangerous thing about his yandere side would come out later when his crush stops being childish.

[greenbeen-with-an-e]

Agreed. Kishi certainly mastered the art of perspective and visual language. He is subtle when reinforcing key themes and personal politics throughout the manga. Clever, is how I'd describe him as a writer Are there plot holes? definitely. Underdeveloped characters and unfinished plot lines? Yes and yes. A misogynistic undertone written into the fabric of the text. Painfully so.

However, kishi's talent at world building and bringing out emotions from the audience is nothing to sneeze at. There are many things to critique, that's for certain. But also many things to praise.

I’ll never understand Naruto fans who preach about how good a writer Kishimoto is. You know you’re not getting brownie points for it right?

What irks me especially is when they think they’re better than anyone who has a critique of the writing. I’m sorry Naruto like any written story is not perfect, unfortunately for Kishimoto his story has too many more flaws than certain others.

It also doesn’t mean the series itself is bad, but there are plot holes, bad rewrites and ill thought out storylines. I love Naruto and always will but I’m not a fake fan for having valid criticism

[nardo-headcanons]

it's been an age since i've been into naruto, and now that i have plans on making my own version on how naruto shippuden ended, i was wondering, how do you think naruto shippuden should've ended? like are you pro or anti naruhina? pro or anti sasusaku? whats your opinions on how the fourth war was played out? if you already spoke about this i'm sorry lol but im just wondering.

OMG HIIIIIIII @ofrolysdogs you're one of my OGs! How have you been????? Please please tag me or let me know once you create your rework. that sounds so intriguing!

This post is gonna be controversial, beauties.

How do you think Naruto Shippuden should've ended?

Ideally, with Naruto realizing that he doesn't need to become hokage to get the attention and validation from the people he loves and cares about. Or at the very least, with Naruto becoming hokage but abolishing the shinobi system. Maybe even make Danzo hokage along the way, just when Tsunade falls into her coma, and slowly make Naruto question the system more and more. Also, Sasuke's whole "redemption" arc should have been handled differently. First and foremost, he was a victim. He did a few things that were wrong, and I agree that there need to be consequences, but for this redemption arc I'd rather have him travel around and teach people around the world about the customs and culture of the Uchiha.

Are you pro or anti naruhina? pro or anti sasusaku?

I am both Anti NaruHina and Anti SasuSaku, but for two different reasons. I used to be a hardcore SNS shipper, but not so much nowadays. NaruHina had so much potential, they could have explored their class and privilege differences together, learning from each other and stuff. But Neji dying for their ship to sail? That was a hate crime. The reason I'm Anti SasuSaku is because I simply don't really like the thought of shipping Sasuke with anyone. He has enough to go through and putting him in a romantic relationship is not something that would make it more interesting or add stakes to it, although I wouldn't mind seeing him adopt a kid or two, given how family oriented Sasuke is.

Whats your opinions on how the fourth war was played out? I found the use of Edo tensei very interesting, albeit a little cheapened here and there. The Itachi and Sasuke vs Kabuto fight was a little disappointing. Don't get me wrong, I loved seeing he two of them fight together side by side, and Itachi's final parting was very touching - but them fighting Kabuto of all people? Maybe if Kishi fleshed out Kabuto's story a little more, he clearly had no idea what to do with him. Poor bastard.

Madara just 'knowing' the hand signs of edo tensei is actually not so unlikely, but it still irks me how he was able to just "come back" when Edo Tensei was released.

And let's not talk about the power scaling, which went completely through the roof in the end. Oof. Kaguya, as is, ruined the storyline completely. It could have worked, but not in the way it was executed in shippuden.

But alas, I suppose there is only so much Kishi can do within the confines of a genre.

[ludwigplayingthetrombone]

After seeing your beautiful new piece with the cute vignettes of team 7+team kakashi, i was wondering — how do you feel about Naruto (the boy)?

o thankyou! ;u; my feelings on narts the boy are so torn tbh so im gonna throw my ramblings under a cut bc idk if i can articulate this correctly

og naruto narts? love him. adore him. i miss that dumb little punk kid i loved him challenging the system and wanting to change it and help people. i /wanted/ him to inspire people like kakashi and gai's gen to do the same and realize how fucked up their childhoods were being weapons of the state at like 6 and 7

shippuden narts? He just rubs me the wrong way. started out good with gaara rescue arc, but then all his pizzaz left and let his obsession of sasuke be the only priority. (This isnt his fault, but kishi writing it so ONLY naruto could kill or defeat most of the enemies with his new op move was so boring to me. none of the secondary cast got to do shit) He also didnt take one second to question if his endgoal is still the same since he turned out to be exactly the opposite of "anyone can be hokage" bc he turns out to have the specialist blood of all and got revealed as a nepo baby and chosen one. He licherally became complicit and changed next to nothing as hokage in the end. the status quo remained the fucking same. Naruto rejecting the hokage position bc he recognizes neji was right is so much more interesting to me

Naruto is at his best when sasuke isnt involved imho. I adore his interactions with everyone else bc he truly loves his friends and family, but him and sakura were so delusional over sasuke but didnt actually Know him and his trauma they just loved the Idea of him. the way they talk about it, they act like sasuke was kidnapped and didnt CHOOSE to leave and even tried to kill them multiple times. shikamaru stronger than me, it'd slap the shit out of both of them

I wish they'd head on addressed the whole "sasuke's whole family was slaughtered in front of him" together and not "you have to come back so we can be a team and things can be normal again like nothing ever happened and fight me!" naruto would be the first one to offer to pull up on itachi with him lets be real lmaoo. I wanted him to offer sasuke support to BOTH tackle the injustices of the leaf. it's kinda like hiruzens passiveness with orochimaru and danzo. never holding certain loved ones accountable he was the same way with obito and even hiruzen himself. (is he even aware of hiruzen's part in the uchiha massacre or obito killing his parents?? then pardoning orochimaru?? HELLO???)

There were moments where i did see our boy shine thru, but then the god powers bullshit hit. in short, bring back my punk little man. his pure intentions were ruined by bad writing

my naruto endgame for him is not stuck at a deskjob he hates with a nuclear family he neglects and more he chooses to give up the hokage job to someone who actually can enact change and who isnt from a prestigious family. travels around helping people hands on and finally gets the peaceful life with found family he never had. advocating better for the next gen.

part one naruto, my baby boy

[madelinesnarutoblog]

I don't really know what to say to the scene with Dark Naruto, but I will try to put this in a context that could make some sense of this scene...

Kishi refers to both Naruto and Sasuke as Yin & Yang. They progress as a pair. And they are both out of balance at this point of the narrative and leaning into their extremes.

Sasuke is in such a state of deep pain that although his feelings and most of his actions are justified, he is really forgetting how gentle his heart is and doing stuff like hurting Karin.

If we take the progress as a pair thing then at this point Naruto is in such a state of I guess people-pleasing and being a superhero, that he is forgetting about himself and his own pain.

Before the shit talking arc, the whole pain arc actually showed him, that through his pain he gained better understanding of everyone. Even if it hurt, even he hated, in the end it gave him empathy. So the pain around his heart is actually making him a better and more understanding person altogether. He was never consumed by hatred, so there was no need to just like, make his hatred disappear?

I guess Kishi is just leaning into the extremes here. I know Sasuke comes back into balance when Itachi tells him that he loves him. So I guess, for Naruto, that would be Kushina he is about to meet... Let's see...

But no kids, bottling up your valid pain, because you want to be the person other's see in you is not worth it. It's self-betrayal. Naruto's dark part deserves as much love and understanding as everyone else, and I hate that Naruto just makes it disappear to be able to continue to burden himself for others. My boy needs to give himself some love and credit, too.

[yudrein-aile]

Omg... yudrain... means eternity... Yuder being like "it was my name" and Kishi going "I thought it seemed like a title" .... like an endearment... guy literally named his lover [his, implied, I'm sure]"forever" or something and yuder took it as his name.... iconic..... still whack their TL1 relationship must have been so convoluted and insane

YEAH!

I love how in canon the first time it’s mentioned it’s as an aside like “yes the name I picked” and you just go “okay?” And then like 400 chapters later Yuder hits you with “actually Kishiar picked it” and then “it means eternity” like what the fuck.

hate to say it but dying man Kishiar popped off with making his situationship his successor, putting him in his clothes, giving him his name.

[generouskittensong]

Look at this SS stans.

Sakura is so irrelevant in Sasuke's life that he doesn't even bother to call her by name and most importantly he devalues ​​her for being useless (as usual) so this pink useless scum is prefered to fall into the lava and die because she doesn't have the slightest value in Sasuke's life.

That's Sakura in Sasuke's life. Irrelevant enough to devalue her without even mentioning her name. He's so angry at her because it's Sakura's fault that so many people died, the Infinite Tsukuyomi was created and Kaguya appears. Yes it's all her damn fault for not stabbing Obitos eye. She's so damn useless.

This is the Manga and this is canon. Your badly written fanfics and ugly fanarts are not canon. You can try to portray a fake Sasuke all you want but the real Sasuke, the canon Sasuke, gives zero fucks about that prick.

He ends up shading her again when he tells Naruto to implant the Rinnegan into Kakashi OR the others. There was only Sakura and he didn't mention her name - again - that's how irrelevant she is and Sasuke is obviously just making fun of her. How funny. I love the canon manga. It just shows what Kishimoto thinks of Sakura and he despises her just as much as we all do. :)

Because in no way shape or form did he allow Karin to destroy the whole Gedomo-stature all by herself, something that useless pink garbage could never. ;)

Oh wait, he did :) And in Gaiden he brought up Karin again and proofed to us, Karin is the Anti-Sakura. She is mature while Sakura is immature. Karins love is selfless while Sakuras is selfish always "me, me, me". Don't forget the title "Scarlet spring" - scarlet = red = Karin. Even the title hints at Karin. Kishi could easily just use "cherry blossom spring". Japan is known for it's Sakura trees in spring time but nooooo, Kishimoto went all the way to call it scarlet and hint at Karin - AGAIN -

And Sarada is Karins child too. ;) Kishimoto clearly hates Sakura and SS in general and Gaiden was a way to spit in their faces.

You ss stans must be really delulu for thinking Kishimoto did you a favor with Gaiden.

[stickyricewithmangosauce]

idk if i sound pessimistic when i say this but there are also lots of charcters in naruto that have no purpose right 😭 the many female charcters of kishimoto who had a lot of potential but who cares right it's your typical shounen shitshow. i get mad whenever i think of kurenai or anko like yeah we get it kishi you don't want women unless its for fanservice

I don't think it's pessimistic at all, just realistic. I mean, Ibiki? In theory he should have such an important role in Konoha, but he's unimportant after the Chunin exam. Or the entire ninja population in war? Why raise an army and create big scenes with it when Jesus Naruto saves everyone's ass?

And the women in Naruto… If you want to piss me off in less than five words, all you have to do is remind me of the treatment of female characters in Naruto and Shounen in general. I hate the excuse But Shounen is for boys, they don't need female characters! Even if Shounen was only for boys, that doesn't mean you should throw out all female characters except, as you said, for fan service. God forbid, if boys learn early on that women can be just as complex as men. A nightmare!

Kurenai's genjutsu should basically be on par with Itachi's(as was stated before in Naruto OG)! And instead of a cool fight, she gets that one scene with Itachi and then becomes a mother. She's just as much a Jonin as Asuma or Kakashi or Gai and each of them had fantastic moments, but Kurenai. She's the mother of Asuma's child, that's her biggest role. Especially in the middle/end of Shippuden it would have been so cool to see Genjutsu, which comes up right away with the Sharingan. Just to make the Uchiha not completly almitghy, because why even bother if your fate is decided by birth(oh hi neji...)?

Or Anko, who was cast out as Orochimaru's student, but just keeps doing her shit. Who brings grown men to tears as an afternoon hobby. And now imagine an Ino, who specializes in mind technique, is trained by someone as ruthless like Anko.

Or a Hinata who isn't particularly good at fighting, but understands politics and all the more important politicians because of her background. A Hinata who is always underestimated, but perfekt as a diplomat of Konoha and always gets the best deal. Who, together with Neji, overthrows the Hyuuga system before the main branch even notices it.

A Tsunade who is supposed to be just as strong as Jiraiya and Orochimaru, as has been mentioned several times, but crouches on the ground in despair when Pain attacks the village? How about a Tsunade who fought in the second Shinobi war, who turned the entire war against Suna in her favor just through her intellect. Who is seen as having experience in battle and in her decisions as Hokage.

Or Sakura, who is supposed to be the best Konoichi of her year and the second smartest person of the Konoha 12. Right after Shikamaru. No joke, according to canon she is smarter than Sasuke, Neji, Shino, Ino. She is said to have an IQ of 174. So, in our world, she has a higher IQ than Stephen Hawking and is estimated to be on a similar level to Albert Einstein. She could have been an inventor like Tobirama Senju, but instead her entire character is designed to look after the boys and men in the series. Like almost all other female characters in Naruto, Sakura's entire world revolves around the male characters in her life and how she can somehow be like them.

I love Naruto, but as a woman I find it's getting harder and harder to ignore. Naruto in general has the problem of caring too much about Naruto and Sasuke and ignoring everything else, it's just that it's most evident in the female characters.

As much as I like Naruto, as woman it tends to get frustrating to watch when you have all that potential in front of you, but it is just not getting used.

[madara-fate]

I've seen that whenever soembody mentions any rude or abusive thing sasuke does to sakura , you throw the logic that he was under the hatred which is fair enough , but is there a limit to it ? Like if instead of knocking her out with a harsh genjutsu , he kicked or punched her and then put her in a genjutsu , would you have still shipped them ? Like honestly asking is there a limit to it ? The reason why sasuke x Sakura is always hated upon is because it's a romantic bond , so murder attempts seem extra very distasteful , as for Naruto x sasuke , is that they are rivals and fight so it's fine for them for them or atleast seen in a better manner and also Naruto bond with sasuke was highlighted so people can see that despite those , he still cared about Naruto , but for Sakura there isn't nearly any strong moments .

Naruto went ballistic for hinata during the pain moment , sasuke never had 0.1% of protectiveness for Sakura .

Him leaving again for a decade gives people a bad experience, almost plays it as a joke , hey even kishi joked or laughed at the joke about how sasuke stays away from Sakura because she is a tough woman .

Now karin , you can admit they shared respect and comradery and sasuke the only murder attempt was just him trying to kill danzo , also their biting moments gave them a erotic tone , plus karin feels as strongly as for sasuke than Sakura . Kishi himself said it so their love was same . Sasuke treated karin way better , or respected her and smiled at her .

Imo if sasuke and karin did end up together or were the final couple , people would have taken it way better than sasuke x Sakura , cause karin just seemed to spend more time with and he smiled at her and also cared for her .

Sure ss fans would be upset , but they don't really make up the more than Naruto Stans .

Sasuke treated Sakura pretty awful and even you can't deny it .

I've seen that whenever soembody mentions any rude or abusive thing sasuke does to sakura , you throw the logic that he was under the hatred which is fair enough , but is there a limit to it ? Like if instead of knocking her out with a harsh genjutsu , he kicked or punched her and then put her in a genjutsu , would you have still shipped them ?

There is a limit to it, but the fact of the matter is that Sasuke didn't do those things that you suggested, so what's the point of even mentioning them? It's like you're saying that their relationship should be negatively judged for things that didn't even happen. What people really need to acknowledge, is that the Naruto universe very clearly does not follow the same standards of forgiveness found in reality, yet they're perfectly fine with accepting wholly unrealistic levels of forgiveness for certain things, while giving SS all kinds of shit for incorporating the exact same principles. It doesn't make sense.

The reason why sasuke x Sakura is always hated upon is because it's a romantic bond , so murder attempts seem extra very distasteful , as for Naruto x sasuke , is that they are rivals and fight so it's fine for them for them or atleast seen in a better manner

That makes no sense whatsoever. It does not matter whether the person is your best friend or a potential romantic interest; a murder attempt is a murder attempt, and attempting to kill your potential romantic interest is in no way, shape or form any worse, than attempting to kill your best friend. I'm sorry but I am so sick of hearing people say this nonsense, it's such a weak attempt to try and excuse or justify the plethora of mistreatment found in SNS in comparison to SS, and I'm not having it.

Furthermore, it's not even as if it's a 50/50 thing between SS and SNS. No, Sasuke treated Naruto far worse than he ever did to Sakura, and yet people constantly applaud him for not giving up on Sasuke. Yet, when Sakura also doesn't give up on Sasuke for the exact same reasons, she's instead hated on for apparently being shallow, selfish and all the rest of that typical bullshit.

and also Naruto bond with sasuke was highlighted so people can see that despite those , he still cared about Naruto , but for Sakura there isn't nearly any strong moments .

Just because Sasuke's bond with Naruto was highlighted in comparison to his bond with Sakura, that doesn't mean that his bond with Sakura wasn't highlighted at all. Sasuke literally named her as one of his two precious comrades. And you say there weren't any strong moments for SS? Please refamiliarise yourself with the manga, because I can very easily list plenty of examples.

Naruto went ballistic for hinata during the pain moment , sasuke never had 0.1% of protectiveness for Sakura .

Are you actually serious?

He protected her against Orochimaru

He went "ballistic" for her against the Sound ninja

He was fully willing to risk his life for her against Gaara by buying Naruto time to escape with her because he didn't want to lose someone "dear" to him ever again

He broke every bone in Shin's body while rescuing her

Do you want me to list the examples from the novels too? Goodness gracious.

Him leaving again for a decade gives people a bad experience, almost plays it as a joke , hey even kishi joked or laughed at the joke about how sasuke stays away from Sakura because she is a tough woman.

Firstly, Sasuke wasn't away for a decade. Secondly, so what if Kishi laughed at that during an interview? Literally so what?

Now karin , you can admit they shared respect and comradery and sasuke the only murder attempt was just him trying to kill danzo , also their biting moments gave them a erotic tone , plus karin feels as strongly as for sasuke than Sakura . Kishi himself said it so their love was same . Sasuke treated karin way better , or respected her and smiled at her .

You have to be trolling at this point.

You actually say Sasuke's murder attempt on Karin "was just him trying to kill danzo", which is just a horrible excuse. In case you don't remember, Sasuke literally said that since Karin allowed herself to get captured, she was useless to him:

So to you, that must mean that it was all about Danzo, correct? Unbelievable. Stop trying to justify all of Sasuke's horrible treatment of everyone other than Sakura, the bias here is crazy. This wasn't just Sasuke trying to kill Danzo, this was Sasuke killing two birds with one stone, because he deemed Karin to have become a burden.

To address your other points...

"also their biting moments gave them a erotic tone" - Are you really trying to use Karin's perviness to prove your point?

"plus karin feels as strongly as for sasuke than Sakura . Kishi himself said it so their love was same" - Kishi never said that. What he actually said, was that Sakura and Karin would be able to empathise and understand each other's feelings since they held affection for the same person. He never said that Karin's feelings for Sasuke were as strong or stronger than Sakura's were.

"Sasuke treated karin way better , or respected her and smiled at her" - Sasuke didn't treat Karin better, he didn't respect her any more than he respected Sakura, and not only did he also smile at Sakura, but he also described her as someone dear to him, was willing to sacrifice himself to ensure her survival, acknowledged her as one of his precious comrades, saw the shadow of his family within her and the rest of Team 7, gave her an actual heartfelt apology, and gave her his ultimate expression of affection which was the forehead poke. Now once Sasuke does even half of those things for Karin, then come back.

Imo if sasuke and karin did end up together or were the final couple , people would have taken it way better than sasuke x Sakura , cause karin just seemed to spend more time with and he smiled at her and also cared for her .

Cumulatively speaking, Sasuke actually spent more time with Team 7 than he did with Team Taka.

Sasuke also smiled at Sakura.

Sasuke also cared for Sakura.

So now what?

Sasuke treated Sakura pretty awful and even you can't deny it .

I've never denied that Sasuke treated Sakura poorly. But what you and so many others constantly ignore, is that he treated Naruto far worse, and yet you'll excuse that for bullshit reasons such as how their bond is platonic, as if that makes any difference. Not only that, but people will actually believe that Sasuke treated Karin better than Sakura, at which point I become certain that they literally just don't even have the faintest idea what on earth they're talking about.

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Chapter 3

Pairing: Hoshina Soshiro x Oc

Guys this is short, I don't have much idea juice in my head so I squeezed as much idea as I could.

Masterlist

Days went by smoothly after a successful mission but when it was time to call it a night Hoshina Soshiro walked out of the training room with his twin katana whipping his sweats off.

But before he could get to shower he saw a light from the library shine a little "Kafka..." He thought, thinking it was Kafka again but for Soshiro surprised he saw Akira wearing her reading glasses while writing some notes in her journal.

Hoshina stays in his spot to reminisce the moment seeing this side of Akira was no surprise to him as he already knows the girl from the first time they started to get to know each other.

But Hoshina Soshiro just couldn't help how she looks like an author writing for her next dialogue of a book he stood there silently before shaking his head a little Hoshina was just about to take a step inside before suddenly getting caught in action.

"Why not take a picture, it'll last longer."

Akira spoke not leaving her eyes from the notes but her voice was low but not in a whisper still soft, Hoshina chuckled softly before standing next to Akira and watching her sketching some random things in her journal.

"Not bad..." Hoshina thought but turned his focus back to Akira who was watching him with a smug face the whole time.

Hoshina suddenly realised this and felt like his face burned with embarrassment which led to Akira covering her mouth while trying to hold back her laughter.

"S-shut up! I was just looking!"

Hoshina could see how Akira laughed at him, as far he is embarrassed but he isn't denying that he loves hearing her sweet laughter Akira wipes away her tears before standing from her seat and closing her journal.

"Wanna take a walk for a while?"

Outside the rooftop Hoshina and Akira were just talking about something other than any Kaiju matter which is comforting not talking about some mission, while Soshiro drinks his cold coffee Akira drink her sweet tea.

"By the way how was your mission with your brothers? I heard it was...... Interesting." Soshiro could see the switch in Akira expression when she almost spit her drink but drink it anyway after Akira forcefully swallows her drink she looks at Soshiro with an irk face that's not invisible at all.

"It was a nightmare...." Akira slump her shoulders in exhaustion from remembering her previous missions with her two dumb mudhead brothers.

Akira's two eldest brothers Hasanagi Ikari and Hasanagi Kishi.

The two are prominent soldiers as both of them are ranked platoon leaders in the first division, Akira becoming the youngest known as the pros and cons has a younger sister and that is.......

Having two brothers means an overprotective annoying side.

"Those two ARE the only reason why I didn't take the offer from the first division is because of them honestly I think they wouldn't even let me join in on the fight because of personal matters, another thing is I hate those two sticking on everything I do."

Akira had a very tough time with her brothers when she first introduced Hoshina as a friend they interrogate him like he was a suspect of any crime.

"Yeah.... I still remember that time." Hoshina sweats a little from remembering the first meeting. But it was a memorable time.

"But.... Nonetheless I still love those two idiots." She hum softly thinking how much her brothers are always by her side and would not take it for granted.

Akira laid her head on Soshiro shoulder the man beside her didn't budge but letting the girl beside him does what she wants. As they view the scene in front of them taking on the peaceful atmosphere for a while.

Soshiro smiles softly the same goes for Akira "You know this moment really takes me back when you suddenly confess to me when you were half drunk in front of everyone."

Soshiro felt his body become stiff and his face red until his ears were bright red "please... stop reminding me that time....." Soshiro covers his face and looks away from Akira, the girl just laughs but sweetly and while in the moment their hands intertwine with each other.

Hoshina is still covering his face but his hands never left from holding Akira's hands. Akira only smiles from this moment.

"But I didn't say no to you either.."

Akira turned her head to face Soshiro when he finally turned his head and his face was already calm down but had a little blush on him.

"Yeah..... I was glad that I thought maybe you just want to stick with friends."

"No way, after everything I think it's a waste to let go such a great person like my dad used to say if you got guts than take it while it's still hot."

When the night was almost closing they leaned in closer until their lips met each other ending the night with a kiss.

Soshiro laughed softly at the girl comment "Yeah, yer right about that."

I love this expression 😄 courtesy and respect of these two down here 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Anti studio pierrot part 3

And the thing most annoying he hate naruhina canon he is changing Naruto's personality

Pierrot he is want that the fandom will hate naruhina he changed Naruto and make him to be bad to his wife. it is terrible this is not the real Naruto. The real Naruto he is never saying that his wife ridiculous

Especially that Kishi show how NaruHina in original Naruto

Look it so bad pierrot want Naruto with other people and not with Hinata again he is the one that throw hate. he is don't want that Naruto will be of care from his family.

And most worse not can't be. look on this Naruto never want Kavaki about his other kids this is was a filler

Of course that Naruto yes in home look on this moment because he know that he is have family that he is loves

SP deleted NaruHina's scene in manga. them marriage present much better even if Kavaki with them

Yes Pierrot I hate you Naruto love Hinata he Always was happy with his family

I hate pierrot