#I hate their posts in the mileven tag so I don’t want to do the same

[icannotthinkofagoodname1]

I need to take Mike away from the majority of Byler shippers until they learn how to actually understand him as a character…

[riri-loves-cats]

Guys listen you don’t need to hate a popular ship just because you like a less popular ship…

for example (and this is just an example, I’m not targeting these specific people)

I see a lot of posts under Mileven, that is JUST talking about Mike and Eleven, and they have anti-byler in the tags even though there’s NO mention of will. Also all this discourse about who’s gonna end up with Mike in canon. IT DOESNT MATTER. If he ends up with will, cool! If he ends up with Eleven, cool! If he ends up with someone else/doesn’t end up with anyone, cool! Why are we hating on random people on the internet for shipping two people that you don’t ship? don’t get me wrong, not everyone has to like the same ship, but let’s not hate on other people for liking a different one okay?

I really don’t want to see ‘anti-*ship name*’ in the tags unless you’re ranting about why you dislike the ship. And also even if you are ranting, you don’t need to throw hate on people that do ship those two people. Just talk about why you don’t like it and go.

Another thing, sometimes I see on a post talking about how ‘You definitely shouldn’t ship this because it’s not the most popular ship!!!!’ I kid you not, that was the exact reasoning on this one post I saw.

Of course, there are some ships that aren’t good at all, such as P3d0philia, and stuff like that. Those are a different story.

| If I missed anything or accidentally offended anyone, please let me know! I assure you, I did not mean to do that. I usually make these posts when I’m bored and/or half-asleep, so I forget to make some points and/or don’t think when I’m writing. My English also isn’t very good, so please let me know if I accidentally offended you or anyone else. Have a nice day and remember to drink some water<33 |

[wheeler-fan]

Hiii! Sorry if I sound weird or disrespectful in some way, I was curious if it’s a common experience for you as a mileven shipper to go on byler tag just to try to understand their point of view. Like you go “ahh byler shippers make no sense, I wonder what are their thoughts on that scene/dialogue/etc” and then read some theories to understand them better. For example I am a byler and anti-mileven which means I completely don’t get this ship so I sometimes scroll through mileven tag or blogs to see “what are you guys on” (w/o negative tone)😭basically learning more abt mileven. Cause sometimes I see anti-byler posts where author obvi doesn’t even know what there’re talking abt and same thing with some anti-mileven ones. In my country there’s a popular phrase “know your enemy in the face”, it basically means you can’t hate anything not knowing what it is and I actually think that’s really important, some ppl should take notes lol, sorry for yapping. I’m not texting you specifically bc I have a beef with you or anything, I actually love your blog cause your posts (even tho I disagree ofc) are valid. I’m sure you cook such wonderful meals for your community and honestly? Keep going!! (I’ll read your stuff too 😼)I tried to make this ask anonymous but can’t find the button on the tablet so you can come at me if you need😭

heyyy, good question but it depends

usually i just text random byler shippers (or friends that ship byler but I don't have much of them so if you're a byler shipper and we're moots it actually means that you're super cool 😭😭😭) and ask them about their point of view

tbh i don't spend much time on tumblr bc i hate to see what people are doing to my fav character here (mike) and also i kinda feel like byler on tumblr is like a new reddie fanfic version 💀 emo boy and a sensitive little baby🥰🥰 I'm sorry 😭

I read a lot of byler theories mainly because of Mike, and usually they don't make sense to me, but honestly I found theories that were really good even though I ship Mileven

tbh for me byler would make way more sense if not the fact that there's only one season left and mike doesn't even know that will isn't straight - actually will haven't done a coming out even to his mom yet😭😭 i just feel like there's not enough time for all of this sorry guys

but i get why people ship it and even if that doesn't make much sense to me- if u want to ship them u can like it's not that deep it's just a fictional ship, the only thing i ask for- don't talk shit about my ship to make yours more valid please

also, even if I'm reading byler theories for fun to talk about them later with my mileven moots I'm trying to keep it for myself, i don't want to talk shit about byler cuz i don't want people to do the same to my ship. Like i get that we share a character but we don't have to kill ourselves 😭 just focus on your own ship..

answering ur question: I'm not searching for an explanation on tumblr or sth bc the explanation will be like : mike and will wear green so byler endgame 😝

i just ask an actual byler on pv so i can understand something better which is actually funny cuz i can randomly text someone and be like: hey I'm a mileven shipper but i wanted to ask, can u explain the birthdaygate to me? and i will get a whole paragraph about it😭 (btw thanks to the random byler that explained it to me before ross posted will byers on ig)

[henrysglock]

another thing which is more fandom related is that the Byler fandom is just insanely annoying at times. like i love my mutuals and some of the theories and all but idk, the way we have so many stupid arguments abt small things (think this is just a problem with the entire ST fandom but i’ve not really interacted with the other sects closely enough to see those), the way alotta Bylers don’t just ship Byler bcz they like it/dislike Mlvn bcz they don’t + to us it doesn’t work but are absolutely obsessed with hating Mlvn to a stupid degree. i’ve seen alotta ppl (rightfully) clown on Mlvns for saying that all Bylers r ableist misogynists who hate El from the bottom of our hearts and specifically don’t think autistic/ND ppl can do anything and women are the devil or whatever but then turn around and say all Mlvns r homophobes who hate Will for being gay and hate Mike bcz they misunderstand his character and want him to be miserable or whatever as if that’s any better, and then there’s how so many ppl just tag any post they make as “byler”, ranging from yk, actual posts abt the ship to posts abt the fandom/nothing posts abt the cast to random unrelated ST posts that they idk don’t want those horrible evil mildew shippers finding to shit that’s entirely unrelated to Byler/ST (honest to god a few months ago i was scrolling the tag and had to block someone bcz they were clogging the tag with their random life updates) and yeah idk i’m not sure if this is exactly an unpopular opinion since we all talk a lot abt how toxic the fandom is but idk i feel like no one talks abt the over the top Mlvn hate and the annoying mistagging (at least from what i’ve seen) (also sorry this is kinda long TwT)

"...the Byler fandom is just insanely annoying." Full stop. Bylerblr gets on my nerves day in and day out, even though I made my best friends in that mess.

It's the way bylerblr starts shit and then plays victim for me. It's the vaguing people and then acting like they're being attacked when that person responds for me. IT'S THE TAGGING UNRELATED SHIT AS BYLER FOR ME!! YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!! And yeah tbh...the mileven hate does get Extensive at times. There's disliking a ship, and then there's devoting your time to antagonizing shippers...like a loser. Atp bylerblr's not much better than the milevens are. Bylerblr is just a different flavor.

The fandom in general is gross no matter where you go, and honestly I'm glad I've detached from it to work on my own analysis niche.

(Also please don't worry about it being long, I love rambling and ranting about shit like this because it annoys me to no fucking end.)

Send me unpopular opinions!

[will80sbyers]

you know, just because there’s drama and arguments between people within a ship fandom doesn’t mean you have to leave.

take a break from tumblr from a day, or something. Block them if it causes you so much stress.

us bylers can’t hate on one another because then I feel like milevens will think it’s okay to do it.

if you want to leave, then that’s up to you. But you have people who follow and listen to you, and agree with you. Don’t waste time on people who don’t agree.

besides, we all have different opinions on things.

And when you make a joke about something, maybe you’ll just have to more obvious it’s a joke.

I hope you don’t leave, the byler tag wont be the same without you.

see... I am not the one starting drama though

I respond because I get hurt by things like this and want to see if we can resolve, they clearly were not open to do that from the beginning... which also makes me wonder how much they really care about the issue they brought up, with which I even agree with funnily enough 😂

my problem is not about the opinions they shared, it's about HOW something is worded and how the argument gets approached

I have blocked them now even if I really liked their posts so don't worry they can now talk shit all they want

I will try to put /j in all my future posts!

[pjo-fan17]

If you don’t like Mileven, please stay out of my blog.

I am very careful about tagging. I don’t even tag Mike and El individually. I only tag Mileven so my posts don’t end up anywhere they shouldn’t be. I also try not to talk bad about other ships. I don’t mind the other ships. I do mind some of the shippers. Especially the ones coming into my blog, and my fellow milevens’ blogs, looking for a fight. I’m not going into your blogs, and I’ve never been to another ship tag. I don’t want to fight. I was never looking for a fight. My posts are for Mileven shippers (and some Lumax shippers) only. They are not meant for antis or b/lers. If you’ve accidentally come across one, I apologize. But I do not appreciate people coming into my blog and screenshotting or reposting my posts to talk bad about them. And, look, I don’t care if you talk bad about them in your own tags. I could care less. Everyone has their own opinions about things, that’s fine. But don’t post my own post in the Mileven tag to hate on it. Please don’t.

so please, if you aren’t fond of Mileven, just stay out of my blog. I’m not looking for a fight. Go find someone who is.

Thank you.

[wontbyers]

Disclaimer, because this is a pretty new blog but if you want to follow you might see I’ll eventually have a tag for both #mileven and #anti mileven which might be confusing: I don’t hate Mileven. I actually think they are cute together and it wasn’t until sometime after volume 2 that I even stopped believing they would be the endgame ship. I only got into the Byler side of things after watching volume 1 and decided I like the ship (I’ve always been a multi-shipper in my fanbases, pairings literally don’t need to be either canon or endgame to simply enjoy them folks!!!) but I still thought Mileven was going to be endgame and I was content with that.

Until how vol.2 handled things with Will’s feelings and his whole plot relevance this season just being used to push Mike/El’s relationship back together—and Mike’s monologue had me feeling torn at first because it was half sweet? Like what I had been waiting for since vol.1, for him to tell her he loves her, but the other half just gave me this awful, sinking feeling….It felt wrong, and maybe because some of what he was saying wasn’t fully genuine, or maybe it’s because Will is my favorite character so it just hurts to see him hurt even if it’s (supposedly) good for El (which is arguable if that monologue was good for her at that point based on analyses.)

But it’s also because, if it turns out that Byler is NOT the end goal, that Mileven does stay together, that means they really used the one gay male character in the show’s pain and heartbreak to solidify the heterosexual pairing. And it’s NOT and will never be a competition of who between Will and El has dealt with more trauma or who “deserves” to be with Mike because love is not about deserving people anyway. It’s not about which ship would be cuter or healthier because they’re not real people, they’re fictional characters. They could easily be written to repair any “toxic” or codependent tendencies in their relationship and be perfectly fine and happy together!

It’s about the fact that LGBT+ people deserve to see stories where people like us are happy and not just “unrequited in love with their straight best friend” or “bury your gays” or anything else harmful. And LGBT+ audiences also deserve not to be toyed with and led on to believe that certain pairings we see suggested in the narrative could actually happen, only to wait years for the final season to come and find out that they were leading us astray to keep us invested just to realize “oh, no, that’s right, gay people don’t get happy endings….silly us, again.”

Rather than that, I choose to believe that the ST writers aren’t planning to do that to us. They’ve written a show about and for the outcasts and the people society shoves down, and I believe they won’t spit on our faces like that with Will’s storyline. I think they’re going to give him his happy ending. I believe in Byler endgame, which necessarily means I believe Mileven isn’t going to be endgame.

So I will reblog posts that point out specific details of the show with analyses that attempt to prove that the narrative we’ve been presented isn’t in favor of casting Mileven’s relationship in a positive light—contrasting them with Byler, and giving El a much-needed independence arc and autonomy she really hasn’t experienced yet in her life—and it isn’t about whether I like them together or not, whether I think Mileven could be healthy or not, whether I think El herself is “ready” for a romantic relationship or not, it’s about the story I want to believe they’re actually writing—which is to say not a homophobic one where Will Byers gets no happiness at the end of the day.

Also, don’t think this is me saying I only ship Byler because it’s gay or because of politics. I have ALWAYS been a fan of friends-to-lovers over love-at-first-sight tropes. Childhood best friends to lovers is actually my FAVORITE, which made it soooo easy for me to immediately love Byler as soon as I realized it was an option. I just wasn’t really aware of the ship in this case before s4 bc I didn’t see any of the hints that there were feelings between them, I just knew that Will was gay from s1 and thought that was about it. Didn’t even notice Mike’s queer-coding until tumblr analysts pointed it out. The Byler fanbase really opened my eyes and it’s impossible to go back now!

Idk if there’s anything else I wanna say on this topic rn, but yeah. I don’t hate Mileven, I just hate homophobia and if Mileven is endgame, the ST writers will literally have written quite a homophobic storyline for Will—because they didn’t need to make him be in love with Mike in the first place if he’s not going to get a happy ending. If they were just going to use his feelings to repair a straight ship. And did they accidentally queer-code Michael Wheeler THAT hard?? for no reason??? Nope. There has to be a reason, so I’m sorry Mileven, I loved you, but you will be a nice non-canon ship for me, because Byler is endgame or else <3

[discoscoob]

I’ve never seen someone dedicate so much time and energy to arguing and trying to prove that they are justified in hating a ship.you are obsessed. You talk about how “problematic” steddie shippers are but conveniently don’t talk about the rest of the problematic fandom. Of course there are problematic Steddies, just like the fact that there are racist/racist Billy denier Billy fans, fans that unironicly ship Billy and mrs wheeler, the problematic bylers and milevens,the homophobes that ship Robin and Steve, and of course your own fandom the ones that are so obsessed with Joseph that they stalk and obsess over that poor man’s every word, every single one of those fans have been cis het girls that ship either Chrissy and Eddie or Eddie and them. But of course you haven’t posted once about any of those fans. I follow the TikTok tumblr Twitter etc tags for steddie and I have barely seen anything hating on Chrissy or ChrissyxEddie not even a itty bit of the stuff I see on Chrissy/Eddie tumblr or on your page I see cute fan art and edits and headcanons and very VERY little ship hate. We get it your obsessed but maybe just maybe focus on YOUR ship instead of making 145788 posts a day about ours. Also PS. Your last posts about Steve/Jonathan or Jonathan/argyle are laughable because firstly almost every steddie I’ve seen equally ships ronance with the same passion not to mention you clearly haven’t been in the fandom THAT long if you don’t remember that Steve/Jonathan WAS a super big ship ever since the golden globes and people wanted badly for them to happen but got barely anything and moved on to ships that had more chemistry Or likelyhood(not obsessed with his ex) Most the Steddies are queer men that want to be represented on stranger things and don’t feel comfortable shipping or focusing on a child(will) or ship between two kids(will/mike) your saying joe confirmed Eddie is straight/bi is laughable because he’s also confirmed hinted at steddie and a million other things the poor man is TIRED he’s trying to make everyone happy and it’s clearly overwhelming him he’s inconsistent in almost every interview and they are absolutely working him to the bone. I wouldn’t take anything he says as super canon because he’s trying super hard to focus on everyone all while trying not to do anything that will cause them not to bring him back. Also before you try to claim me as a someone who is fetishizing them ask yourself this why is it only problematic to ship two boys but a heterosexual ship with less than 5 minutes is ok and also remember I’m a gay man who is infact the same age as Eddie,21. That shipping Chrissy and Eddie or shipping steve and Eddie or Robin and Nancy should be treated the EXACT same way because they are the EXACT SAME THING. If you don’t think that it is, I’m sorry but you are suffering from internalized homophobia

[mikewheeler]

hi! this is out of my comfort zone really by doing this, but i needed to say something and you’re the first account i thought couple help! but i’ve been a very forward and strong mileven shipper for years now. i’ve been able to handle backlash through reason, i’ve never worried about b*lers, let alone paid them much attention. but after volume two, everything shifted. between the hate mike got at the start for merely voicing the love he’s had for the girl he’s always loved, to the complete 180 shift of people strongly believing he’s gay for Will again, it’s just incredible. it’s inescapable. im mostly on twitter, which i’d say was a reasonably good place for milevens. it’s now turned into a whole other world. mostly infiltrated by kids who claim to want rep, which i fully support and understand as a queer person myself, but who do it in exchange for misogyny and ableism. people who claim to love el yet want her heartbroken. and while this post is a rant, it’s also one of concern, and i’d love to hear from someone as reasonable as you. im firm in my beliefs and my love for mileven, but the duffers have always loved their fan service, and this is unlike anything i’ve seen since fandoms like Sherlock or Supernatural. Essentially, my question is, do you think the duffers will give into this fan service? clearly the reasonable answer would be no, you don’t ruin a 4 season build up like mileven for the sake of fan service. But i’d be lying if I said the sudden influx of B*ler shippers and the likes they’ve been getting isn’t shocking. So what I’m trying to say is, as Mileven shippers, do you think we need to be worried for season 5? I can’t believe im even saying this; i wouldn’t have thought it feasible even a year ago, but the public response is almost intimidating. All the best, and sorry for this dump!

Hi friend! Welcome! First, I want to say thank you for censoring b*ler, because it allows me to answer your ask! There have been asks I have received before that I couldn't answer, though I wanted to, because I didn't want the ask to go into the b**ler tag and intrude on others' space.

Secondly, the short answer to your question is no. Mike's monologue pretty much cemented mileven's relationship. It made soulmatism canon. I say this all the time, but that relationship has been written in stone from the first episode. Thunder boomed at their first meeting. They stared into each other eyes. And Mike said, out loud, in the finale of season 4, that his life began on the day he met el. Logically, are the Duffers really, in the last season, going to turn back on all of that, on four seasons of development, and say "jk he loves Will now"? No, that would be terrible storytelling lol. Especially when there has been ZERO indication that Mike has had any feelings for Will at all in any of the past four seasons. Also, what precedent would that set moving forward? That artists and creators are not in control of their own narratives? Yuck, no thanks.

If the Duffers respond to the backlash at all, it will probably be to make sure that Will gets a really strong storyline next season, that his coming out moment is delivered with integrity, and that he ends the season happy and maybe even in a secure relationship. I think a lot of the backlash is just wanting to see Will happy. We might also just see less mike/mileven on screen, which is a huge shame, but we already started to see that in season 4.

I completely understand this is a really emotional time for everyone right now. I think a lot of the debate/discussion around this season is completely valid, and a lot of it is not. That's to be expected with a show as popular as stranger things. Just remember that twitter/tumblr/tiktok represents one section of fans. There is a HUGE general audience. My boss watches this show, my coworkers watch this show, my irl friends watch this show. None of these people know what a b*ler is.

The season just came out, the emotions are still fresh, but we have a loooong hiatus ahead of us. This too shall pass. Hang in there and allow yourself to enjoy the amazing moments we got this season because, despite the backlash, the mike & el scenes in 4x08 and 4x09 were truly phenomenal. <3

[itsonlystrange]

Hey! Welcome to my blog!

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STRANGER THINGS 4:

CHAPTER ONE: THE HELLFIRE CLUB

CHAPTER TWO: THE RAILROAD

AVAILABLE TO READ NOW!!

I’m Itsonlystrange, but you can call me El ! (Yes, ironically, I go by ‘El’)

HERES A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME ~

This blog will be dedicated to all things stranger things.

I’ve been in the fandom since August 2016. I shipped Mileven for about 3 years, up until September 2019.

This is a byler account.

Along with this, I also ship Jancy and Jopper, and Lumax. I encourage everyone to ship what you want!

I write in depth theories and Byler proof. If that bothers you, then I encourage you to go else where.

I am also studying film and write period correct 1980’s ST fan fiction. I’m also currently writing all of season 4 of stranger things. More on that later in this post. :)

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UNFOLLOW IF:

You’re homophobic, racist, xenophobic, sexist, etc.

You’re going to pick a fight with me because I don’t ship what you ship.

You hate byler shippers

You’re a Will, Mike, or El anti.

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SOME OF MY FAVORITE ST CHARACTERS (IN ORDER)

1. Will & Mike (tied :/)

2. El

3. Max

4. Robin

5. Joyce

6. Steve

AND MORE!

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WITH THIS, I DO believe Byler will be end game. Feel free to have your personal opinions as well. If you’re interested in learning more about Byler or already ship it yourself, I encourage you to follow and come along for the ride!

I try to be wary, and while I do encourage people and remind people of all the proof for byler, I do want everyone to know that I will still ship it NO MATTER WHAT! And you can too! A ship doesn’t have to be canon for you to enjoy it! Please know that while I do believe it’ll be canon, I try not to be TOO toxicly positive and look at it from a balanced perspective, and that is a view I encourage everyone to have! Even if it doesn’t become canon (which I doubt) you can still ship it! However if you dislike my hopefulness and beliefs in byler being canon, that’s fine! This ship is not for everyone, that’s cool!

I try not to engage in ship wars. Ship what you want! If you don’t agree with me that’s okay. You don’t have to follow! :)

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STRANGER THINGS 4:

(My version)

•I am currently writing all of season 4 of stranger things.

Link here to what it will include!

Stranger things season 4: what it will include

Byler script 4x03

Byler script 4x07

Stranger Things 4: Chapter One: The Hellfire Club

Stranger Things 4: Chapter Two: The Railroad

AND YES! Im currently studying film! This will be written in script format! Click on the link to find out more about it!

All posts regarding my version of Stranger Things 4 will be tagged “my version”

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[oikawaplssteponme]

PART 7 | previously: part 6 | masterlist

pairing: Katsuki Bakugou x fem! reader

ratings/warnings: swearing

synopsis: When UA’s hot heads, Katsuki Bakugou and you, are forced to put your hatred for each other aside and plan the third year Prom, things end up getting a little heated...

a/n: so maybe i accidentally deleted this part instead of posting it😁oops. but here is part 7 haha sorry that it’s a little shorter but i promise i make up for it in later parts :)) enjoy xx

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seven: can i get back to you on that?

The realization of your feelings for Katsuki Bakugou hit you like a ton of bricks. You couldn’t believe that the person you most despised in the whole world was also the person that you wanted all to yourself. Then again, it’s not like Bakugou would ever feel the same.

~

“BAKUGOU!” The blond boy came rushing down the stairs.

“WHAT?”

“WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?” In your hands you held a box.

“It’s decorations nerd,” he said plainly. You huffed.

“Why the hell are they GREEN?” Bakugou looked in the box and his eyes grew.

“Uhhh…”

“We ordered 10 rolls of RED, BLACK, AND GOLD streamers, so please explain to me Katsuki why the HELL are they GREEN!” You were up to your ears in stress over planning this dance and nothing seemed to want to go your way.

“Are you sure this is the right package? I placed the order correctly,” he insisted.

“Katsuki, who else would order 10 packs of streamers?”

“Let me double check the receipt.” Bakugou pulled out his laptop and you peaked over his shoulder.

“See, I knew I placed the right order. They just sent us the wrong one,” he explained. You sighed.

“Great, well what the hell are we supposed to do?”

“We’ll send the package back and tell them that they fucked up our order and they’ll send us a new one. It’s gonna be fine Y/N,” Bakugou reassured you.

“Okay...sorry for yelling,” you said. Bakugou laughed.

“Remember what I said about saying sorry all the time? And since when do you apologize for yelling? You’re acting weird…”

“I'M NOT ACTING WEIRD YOU'RE ACTING WEIRD DUMBASS!”

“Sure Y/N. Well I’m heading up. See you later nerd,” said Bakugou. Bakugou ran back up the stairs of the basement.

After your wonderful realization, you didn’t know how to act around Bakugou anymore. You over compensated by yelling at him more but would realize that that’s probably not the best way to win him over, so most of the time you were a hot mess.

You weren’t even sure what to do anymore. It’s not like you thought you had a chance with Bakugou. The two of you were supposed to hate each other. That’s just how it was. You wished these new found feelings for Bakugou would just go away.

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You left the basement a little after Bakugou, going up to the common area. Bakugou was sitting with the rest of your classmates.

“Y/N!” Mina waved you over. You went over to everyone, the only open seat being in between Bakugou and Deku.

“Are you just gonna stand there or what?” huffed Bakugou. You let out a nervous laugh and sat down in between the boys.

“Okay guys so since Prom is coming up, I think we should figure out our plans,” suggested Mina.

“We must have an organized plan to have everyone on the same page!” said Iida.

“And what would that be, glasses?” you teased.

“Well, are we going as one big group or as a group of dates?” asked Izuku.

“What the hell does that mean, Deku?” groaned Bakugou.

“He means that if we go as a group are there gonna be couples within the group or not? I mean it would be pretty awkward if someone was left out without a date,” explained Kirishima.

“The only person who’s been asked is Jirou anyway,” said Uraraka.

“Wait Jirou who asked you?” You asked. Jirou laughed.

“I’m going with Charge Bolt over here, but just as friends obviously,” she explained. Denki mocked Jirou by making air quotations as he repeated ‘just as friends’. You laughed.

“I don’t think dates have to be a big deal. I mean if you get asked you get asked. And if not that’s fine, we are all still going as a class anyway,” you shared. Your friends nodded.

“I’m not going with you extras,” huffed Bakugou. You turned to face him.

“Come on Bakubro, you’re gonna go alone?” teased Kirishima. Bakugou rolled his eyes.

“OF COURSE I'M NOT GOING ALONE I’M JUST NOT GOING WITH YOU IDIOTS!” he yelled.

“Well are you asking someone then?” questioned Sero. Your face got warm.

“That’s none of your damn business,” he mumbled. The chances of Bakugou asking you were slim to none. You knew that, but just the idea of it made you excited at the same time.

“Prom’s in two weeks dude. You better ask them soon, whoever they are,” said Kiri. Bakugou groaned.

“That actually reminds me, I’ve gotta do something.” Deku got up from his seat and ran over to his room. He left in what seemed like a hurry. You didn’t think too much of it though.

“I can’t wait for this fucking planning shit to be over,” groaned Bakugou.

“Uh yeah same here,” you murmured.

Right. Only two more weeks of planning. Only two more weeks of countless hours in the basement. Only two more weeks of you having Bakugou all to yourself. Then, things would go back to how they were.

“Well I think I’m gonna head to my room. I’ve got some homework to do,” you explained, getting up from your seat.

“Wait Y/N, you can’t leave yet,” said Iida, blocking you from standing up.

“Uh why?”

“Because uh, I insist you stay for just a few more minutes.” Iida waved his hands around.

“Iida cut it out.” You pushed him out of the way and began to walk to your room.

“No Y/N wait-“

“Dude she said she wanted to leave,” interrupted Bakugou. You turned around to look at him.

“Thanks Katsuki but I can handle myself,” you smirked. Bakugou didn’t say anything. You watched as his eyes widened, but not at you.

“What the hell are you looking at-“

“Y/N…w-will you go to Prom with me?”

Deku held a poster decorated with fireworks as it read ‘Let’s Make Sparks Fly at Prom!’ You just stood there, frozen, unsure what to say. You soon heard heavy footsteps behind you and you watched as Bakugou marched off to his room. Your heart dropped as you watched him walk away. You looked back at Miydoria.

“Listen, Deku...can I get back to you on that?” You began to slowly walk away and before you knew it, you were running to your dorm room and locking yourself inside.

Shit. Shit. Shit.

•

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[general-kj]

What did that person you named that you apparently hate do??

Oh God do I really want to go through this again? I mean, I might as well, I have you-said-yes blocked so the only way they will see this post is if their friends show it to them which at that point its their fault not mine for causing drama so here we go, its a long story.

At first you-said-yes was just another random Byler I followed who posted cute things about Byler but after a while they started posting opinions I disagreed with more frequently. This in itself is fine because everyone is entitled to an opinion but I found them to be really aggressive that their opinion is the only right one and everyone else is wrong. I do also find it interesting how most of their opinions are based on their personal headcanons rather than factual evidence. Like they hate certain theories like DID but thinks half the cast is asexual and bi because that is what they identify as and anyone who says otherwise is wrong.

A while after this I notice that they are someone that starts smear campaigns against theorists and other people they don't like and makes up untrue accusations about them behind their backs. This is particularly true in the case of the DID theory. Fairly sure it was them who started the whole ridiculous thing of nobody respecting Robin and lesbians because people found Byler references in Rebel Robin and how dare anyone suggest Robin help out Mike with his gay issues. Apparently that makes her less of a person because its suggested she interacts with other characters? I also think I saw them accuse a lesbian of hating lesbians.

Now we get to the things they did against me personally that lead me to block her. The above evidence is simply of them being a terrible person and a snake in my opinion. So whenever I get toxic responses to things etc I tend to post it on here under the Byler tag which lead them to write a post complaining about the tag being clogged up with toxic Milevens responses which is just hypocritical considering the amount of times they have had rants about things. Are they the only one allowed to have rants about things they are passionate about?

Next after my hilarious rebuttal to a Mileven using British slang they once again complained about me clogging up the tag and saying that we shouldn't engage with Milevens. I snapped slightly at this and replied and had a conversation with them where they constantly said I was missing the point by arguing with their post that arguing with people who disagree with you is pointless because you wont get them to change their minds. What they didn't understand is that I knew what they was saying I just thought it was a BS point. I am allowed to argue with Milevens if I want to if they leave toxic comments on fics I have spent literal hours on. You have no say in that bitch.

Finally I want to say that they made a post complaining about one of my posts saying that I want to make Byler fics where Mike cheats on El to piss off Milevens because that would piss them off more than Milevens but clearly they don't know that I made that post and that there's nothing I would love more than to piss someone like them off. So expect more of that kind of fic in the future lol, if they get pissy about it then they are proving my point and they are purposely getting upset as no one is forcing them to read it.

So I don't want this mentioned again, if you're friends with them, don't try and convince me that they aren't a snake, I have nothing against you personally but I consulted with my friends for a long time before coming to the decision to block them and they blocked them at the same time so I am happy in my decision. Thanks for the ask.

[strangertheory]

I saw a post a few weeks ago that had some fans describing "anti" tags as indicating that bloggers vehemently hate certain characters or ships. Some fans were upset that anti tags even exist and are used in the first place.

I know that some fans use anti tags when they want to rant about how much they hate something, but I want to mention that tags are ultimately meant to help Tumblr users find and filter content that they don't want to see and that they're meant to be a tool as much as they've become a way to express commentary.

I know that some fans use anti tags aggressively. I generally don't. I am not aggressively "anti" since I view the way that people relate to stories and characters as something very personal and sacred, but I do use tags (ex. #anti-harringrove, #anti-mileven) so that anyone that likes those ships can filter out my blogposts if they'd rather not hear my thoughts that are more critical of those ships.

I don't use tags to say "Ha! Don't ship this!" or to say "I hate X!" I use tags so that other Tumblr users can choose to avoid reading any of my content that isn't a wholly enthusiastic and glowingly positive analysis of certain ships or characters that they love. I use the tag "#anti-harringrove" so harringrove shippers can filter out any posts I write that are critical of the ship. It's for their benefit and truly not meant as a jab.

Ships and favorite characters are a personal thing and we all relate to stories differently.

This blog is strictly anti-pedophilia (ugh I hate that this is such a problem on tumblr that this even needs to be said) and I'll admit I'm not fond of fans erasing established lgbtqa+ identities of fictional characters (ex. shipping romantic Robin x Steve), but beyond that I'm really not out here telling anyone that they shouldn't appreciate stories and characters in their own way that they appreciate and relate to the most.

Yes I might express that I'm wary of how popular Billy and Harringrove are from a general "bigger picture" societal criticism of negative stereotypes and the celebration and fetishization of toxic masculinity etc, but I empathize with individual fans that want Billy to be a better person and want him to have a nicer storyline. I've seen Harringrove headcanons on Tumblr that are very cute.

Similarly, I might roll my eyes a teeny bit because I personally do not see Mileven as having the roots and foundations of a close relationship in itself and I believe that much of Mileven is narratively dependent on Mike's attachment and affection for Will and I think El deserves to be loved for who she is (plus in season 3 I read El as becoming notably less attached to Mike), but I completely respect that many fans find their own understanding of the dynamic between Mike and El to be very sweet and relatable and they want to ship them together. Fans see something that they appreciate and like and I'm not looking to spoil anyone's day. But I'm still going to write about my own interpretation of their character dynamic, and so when I describe El as realizing that there's a lot more to explore in the world and she's not particularly devoted to Mike and I agree with the characterization of their relationship as a "first first crush" (and point out the internal dialog "Mike? Mike who?" in the s3 script) then I'll tag my blogpost as "anti-mileven" so that anyone that only wants to see pro-mileven content can avoid my post and not have to read about why I see Mileven as (currently) superficial and underdeveloped intentionally.

I hope that makes sense to everyone!

My anti tags are not meant to imply that I want people to stop shipping whatever they ship and relate to. My anti tags are to help other people filter the content that they want to read when they are on Tumblr. 👍

[kaypeace21]

can you maybe stop telling people what they ship and what they don’t ship.. i swear you’re so fucking stubborn. and if you wanna defend mike so damn much then do it cause i bet more then half your followers hate him. it’s the way you clearly don’t see how many bylers hate mike and love will do you SEE the problem here??

This is the 5th anon message (in 1 day) you sent me.and you’re not stubborn? I’m not the one who has sent 5 anon messages in a row? Why don’t you just chill out and ignore me. You’re this pissed cause I said your hate to Max was unjustified. I kindly pointed out max didn’t make El spy on Mike - like you claimed . El spied on mike in s2 - before she even met Max. Then you got infuriated that I pointed out that all the flaws you claimed were about the elmax friendship were actually just flaws with mileven. Some of you hate on Max just cause you saw her as a hindrance to Mileven. Then in the second message you got pissed and brought up byler (which I didn’t even bring up in the first post!) Cause you just ... wanted to fight about byler despite totally being a byler shipper? Specifically said if mike was actually gay and dated el before he realized he’d be “an ass”. And if el and mike were confused about thinking they loved eachother when they didn’t “they’d be the worst characters ever.” Then brought up Will being bad cause he called El stupid (which was projection cause right after that he called himself stupid 4x). 3rd message went on a tangent about how much better and nicer mileven shippers are and that you ship both byler and mileven. And 4th message just go on about how Will was horrible to El, and max did horrible things in s3 , and that bylers hate on mike all the time , and elmax sucks. And now this. Yes you totally ship byler and aren’t just a mileven who got pissed that my 1st comment criticized your ship . So then in the second message brought up byler randomly to try and critique it. And just got pissy when called out as pretending to be a byler shipper and not getting the answers you wanted 😂 you can ship mileven. I’m not stopping you .

Also , I’ve constantly defended mike. And called out bylers for the hating him in the past. I literally defended mike when you claimed him being gay and dating el before hand would make him “awful”. You clearly don’t follow me and probably just believe all the lies mileven shippers say about me on twitter 🙄 . I’ve even told other bylers that the way Mike treated El was worse than Will. At least mike apologized to Will. Mike never apologized for lying- to El. And I still said that mike hate is unjustified countless times (cause he’s a kid)! Kids make mistakes! And especially cause I explained Mike saying (In the garage) “ it’s not my fault you don’t like girls “ was projecting his own gay feelings on to Will. Similar to how Will (in the garage) saying El was “stupid” was projecting his own feelings - why Will called himself “stupid” (4x at castle byers) after their fight in the garage and this comment about El. But you get angry at the concept of byler / projection so... that won’t help.

Past comments:

Part 1 (their first Max message/my response ) part 2 (second message/ my response ) part 3 (comments 3-4) . In this annoying ass saga 😂

Now please - move on . I only didn’t block you to prove how unhinged milevens get when you don’t block them . Look how angry you’ve gotten . This bylers is why you have block milevens -they just don’t give up and get angrier and angrier 😅

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Update: 6th message

I said for you to leave me alone. Not mike. How was that not clear? Also he’s a fictional character- what are you talking about?Oh my god .😅 You can do whatever you want on your own blog-just stop spamming me.

Mileven fan base (who are predominantly straight) use homophobic talking points and slurs to discredit byler / queer st fans . Many of us have gotten messages calling us the f and d word. Then milevens constantly private message bylers ,minding their own business, and call bylers “stupid” or “delusional “ ( or straight up sending de*th t#reats) . ( When these bylers are in their own tags -minding their own business- and don’t cross tag mileven at all ) . Bylers rarely go on to mileven posts that gush about mileven and then make jokes about how horrible the ship is and how delusional it’s shippers are (in said mileven post). Milevens do that all the time - they’ll go to a random byler post , only tagged byler , and make such comments about the byler ship/shippers . They also personally insult people for shipping byler and not mileven. Like me. Many mileven anons sent me messages making fun of my autism cause I shipped byler and said I’m not allowed to talk about byler /analyze the show cause I’m autistic and incapable of providing anything meaningful to the fandom because of my autism(all while hypocrically saying it’s ableist for anyone to think El isn’t ready to date yet). And bylers have the audacity... to in turn!!! Not like your ship and critique the issues with the (fictional) pairing using canon evidence in the show . And rarely send any direct messages/personal attacks to people who ship mileven . We criticize a ship - milevens directly message and attack the opposing shippers . There’s a difference between saying In the byler tag “mileven (the ship) is bad” or even an offensive blanket statement like “mileven shippers are blank” vs a person directly messaging a random individual who ships mileven and saying “you’re stupid for shipping mileven.bla bla.” A lot of the mileven fandom doesn’t seem to know the obvious difference when playing the victim. 🙄

And now you say byler is shipped just cause it’s “2 hot boys.” Which is yet another anti byler/pro mileven talking point.  You don’t ship byler (you’re just a mileven troll -move on) . Also-Ew - they’re kids. I’m an adult lesbian who actually likes well developed relationships - especially if lgbt. That’s all. And I’ve already criticized other bylers for some of their questionable heteronormative behavior and creepy fetishistic behavior of the characters/actors.  Also Bylers usually like El -more than milevens like Will. We don’t like mileven cause we see it’s bad for El’s character development and mental health. We care about El and think getting to know the real world and herself is better than rushing into a relationship (before she’s actually ready). But, y’all hate Will over a few comments he’s made. And I’ve seen milevens say they want Will d*ad or even say they wish he never came back from the upsidedown. And that’s just cause you’re threatened he’ll ruin mileven. Ya’ll are projecting . YOU EVEN SAID bylers make you not like Will as much- in a diff message. But go off.   (And leaaaave me alone ). Blocked you cause you have no self control to do it yourself .😂

[pagingevilspawn]

welcome to my blog!

(just thought i’d make a little thing so that my followers know i post about!) (updated!)

majority:

grey’s anatomy. jo wilson. alex karev. jolex. pretty little liars. euphoria.

including a large amount of:

criminal minds. aubrey plaza. millie bobby brown. april ludgate. stranger things. cat adams. spencer reid. mileven. el hopper. ludwyer. parks and rec. psych & characters. shules.  pretty little liars. euphoria. fexi.

.... with a good amount of:

rants. occasional blurbs of nothing. gif sets of whatever show i just finished binging. 

(if you don’t wish to see the random rambles of mine, just block the tag #payton rambles !)

what i write for:

jolex! but i am open to write for nearly any couple, ship, or character you see on my page! just send me a prompt!

rules for submitting a prompt / inbox rules: 

NO SMUT. i’m a minor. i don’t feel comfortable reading smut, much less writing it. if you are to request a prompt, please do not have it include smut. i’m perfectly okay with writing kissing, making out, (totally pg-13 over the clothes action) but anything more than that is not in my comfort zone. please respect that :) 

this one is kinda random, but you may notice i follow a lot of blogs that write ____ x reader fics. i don’t really read ____ x reader fics unless i find the plot incredibly interesting, so i wouldn’t feel comfortable writing one. just a heads up!

please do not hound for updates! i have some of the nicest followers so i’m very thankful that i haven’t had to deal with angry anons, but i know a lot of people have! i have a life outside of writing and tumblr, and contrary to popular belief, saying that you want/ demand and update isn’t very motivating to us writers. now, if you wanna give me the motivation to write? say something nice! nothing feels better than that! 

if i want y’all to drop a topic, please do so. if i don’t feel comfortable sharing something, please don’t ask again. like i said before, i have some really great followers, but i have seen this happen for so many other lovely people that i follow. 

no hate please! this is a given i hope. if you don’t like what i write, just don’t interact with it! plain and simple!

no real person fiction! i don’t feel comfortable reading so also means that i wouldn’t feel okay with writing it!

get to know me: 

hi, i’m payton! i’m sixteen years old, and my pronouns are she/her! i write, obsess over fictional characters, and become too emotionally attached to tv shows for my own good. 

i’m a bit of a slow writer. i often don’t finish the things i start. but if you send in a request, at some point in time (i’m not even joking when i say it will most likely take at least six months) i will fulfill it!

hope this helps everyone, and welcome to my blog!

[clericbyers]

Hey. Just wanna know why you hate Stebin but are okay with Mileven when both the ships are half gay? When Mileven is v toxic and Mike clearly loves Will. Mileven never treated each other right and El doesn't even like Mike like that too. And why you think Mike is gonna mistake himself as bisexual forever when he has more gay coding than Will? How can Mileven ever work out if Mike is gay? Even if he doesn't realize it now, it's impossible that he'll never realize & be with a girl forever.

alright. First thing first, I don’t think Mike would mistake himself as bisexual forever and as we all know I read Mike and all his coding as being gay, more so than Will even. This is something I accept and believe that to be in the story like hardcore. The thing is, I can read that all I want, I can believe it with every inch of my body and see it in the subtext and everything all I want but until it is explicitly stated (even though I believe that it pretty much already is and will continue to do so), for all I know, this could all turn out to be some accidental misread or whatever, I don’t know. With Steve and Robin, Robin has already vocally expressed no interest in Steve that way even though they were supposed to be together in script as much as even Mike and El werent really intended to be a thing either. As I’ve stated before, the show is at a 50/50 split here where it can either go with the story I (and many others) see being told—Mike and Will accepting their sexuality and love for each other—or the story that the general fans are pushing for, which is the happy ending relationship between Mike and El. I’ve also never said I want Mike and El to be endgame (just look up the term on my blog, I rarely use the term myself out of the 3000+ posts on this blog and when I do, it’s in reference to Mike and Will) and I’ve said that ST3 in particular made me more uncomfortable with Mike and El given this is the season where it’s made more clear and explicit even that Mike is not as romantically interested in her as we’d been lead to believe. I’m also pretty sure I’ve said before that I would tap out of the show if they played to the masses and never explored the storyline of Mike and Will liking each other. Also, this is in tags but hey

I’m okay with them if there are changes because the direction of Mike’s character hasn’t been set in stone quite yet no matter how much I believe it to be. Again, the ambiguity is a double edged sword, people can interpret whatever they like and I interpret that Mike is realizing he likes Will but like...a good number of people come away with a Mike/El reading of the goodbye sequence so like idk I’m just distrusting about media and lgbt characters and the gp...and so I’m okay with Mike and El, doesn’t mean I’m happy though! And I said I wouldn’t be angry if Mike and El got back together because I wouldn’t be...I really wouldn’t, I’d just be disappointed as fuck because that’s a lost storyline in my mind. That’s betraying the point of ST and the idea of battling inner demons and realizing your true self and the people who help you overcome them. And it’s also another tiring trope of the gay guy getting with the girl and repressing his feelings for the rest of his life like ok...we get it...lmao anyway yeah ! I just have a distinct difference in my mind between what I want and what I’ve read and what I believe could actually happen given the influence of the fandom in this show.