#I dont see enough ppl shipping their frames
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cyber-neptune · 4 months ago
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I wish I had the ability draw rn cuz I've been rotating my Rhino, Grendel and Gauss dumbass polycule in my head it's not even funny I see them in my arsenal and need them holding hands and coming crimes on Corpus members and Grineer all the while being been very homoerotic
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usercelestial · 3 months ago
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✨ venting ✨
#sometimes i feel like i dont make myself clear enough and i come off as very anti b/ddie but like im not i promise i sincerely would love it#and i like the idea of it but it gets so frustrating seeing people swear up and down every fucking season that its going to happen#like you're allowed to enjoy it unless it goes canon and you have a ten page essay on WHY it should go canon and thats just 🪓🪓🪓#like idk maybe im in the wrong spaces but i feel like ive accumulated a very anti b/ddie audience and that was not ny intention#i just wanna vent about how frustrating it is to see ppl try to convince themselves every little thing = b/ddie when like maybe it doesn't#and that should be fine yknow like youre sucking all of the flavor out of these characters by insisting theres something there that isnt#when there is actually a lot of natural chemisty between the characters and a good foundation for their relationship#that you dilute because no here look they were in the same frame that means b/ddie canon in season 14#like the metas ill see are just see here they looked at each other#when you dont have to do that. the ship speaks for itself. the will reveal. the well situation. the sniper arc. like ALL OF THAT means smth#like the b/cktommy deal. tommy can be important to buck OUTSIDE of how important eddie is. it doesn't have to threaten their relationship#but you let it and you come off as insane and insecure because every little fucking thing has to be about b/ddie and its like jfcccc
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angy-grrr · 4 months ago
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There's even ppl from TikTok that are not even bkdks that are thinking like dude. List a worse and more disrespectful way to joint together your token hetero ship.
I just can't with using Shigaraki and Himiko's death as a latter for them to be a couple. Or worse, Ochako using her previous feelings for Izuku to avoid her grief, and Izuku either "let's leave for the future" or accepting it because he doesn't want his friend to be in pain alone.
There are izu///ochas who dont want this to happen now -and it makes sense, when you enjoy the ship and theres an opportunity for them to become canon you want them to be in better moment, or at least frame the conversation around their relationship, not someone's death.
I think most are dudebros who dgaf about the ship making sense they just like it bc its hetero and enjoy a fanon tradwife ochako basically -and they mostly think the first option will happen, using their deaths in order to make them bond, cry a little and then when they are better confess or while still emotional scream accidentally the declaration.
This one is worse enough but the other two you descried are so, so terrible lmao not them entering a toxic relationship.
Im hoping Horikoshi also sees that as disrespectful and just wanted to troll a little the people who do believe this is the right time as in "seriously??? SERIOUSLY NOW YOU THOUGHT-????".
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disaster-j · 1 month ago
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ok i dont rly go here but the few clips ive seen of bucktommy are soo??? 🥺💕??? im not great w medical stuff so idk how much of 911 deals w that specifically (the one scene ive seen involved a lady getting crushed on some sort of revolving dinner thing and that alone was enough to squick me out a bit so i dont think i could get through the show😭) but i love seeing bucktommy stuff in the tag (… when ppl arent mistagging with hate tags🫠 even tho that shit happens in every fandom no matter how small unfortunately)!! they seem very sweet and something about the eulogy scenes framing makes it feel like they have the potential for wedding parallels if they go that route :0
anyway i hope ur ship sails far forever!!! manifesting a wedding one day. these dudes look hot in suits lmao like its what the people (and a rando bi lady scrolling popular tags) want
Anon you're too sweet ^_^
And yeah I def wouldn't recommend watching the show if that stuff isn't for you ahbsabb there's plenty of blood and gore in the show. But I am happy to keep putting the gays on your dash :3
Buck and Tommy are growing into one of my most beloved ships they truly are so good together i hope there's a wedding !!!!!
Thank you <33
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roobylavender · 11 months ago
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8QPgHuh/ ok so i don’t disagree w op like she’s not wrong ppl r weird abt black women, particularly dark-skinned black women when it comes to romance and white men, but the comments abt carmy and syd r killing me bcs ,as a black women myself, i js dont see them as platonic bcs the shows themes and storylines have never leaned toward that in my opinion ! like it’s always been a platonic air, esp w the boss-junior start ! it’s not like there wasn’t any yk potential but i feel like nothing ever blossomed that’s js all i had to say haha !
i think you meant you don’t see them as romantic right 😂 but yeah like what the op is talking about is definitely very real but frankly i think a lot of the people who fixate on sc in particular really.. do not pay attention to anything else going on in the show. like the way people’s entire understanding of season two was framed through a ship lens instead of just taking the characters as they are on their face was kind of alarming and i think claire being there made it worse bc people perceived her as a threat even though she was never meant to be. like i seriously doubt she will be coming back and the point of her character was to demonstrate that carmy treated her like a fantasy escape from his hellhole of a life that he could rely on like a crutch. which no one deserves in a relationship lol. it’s not to say that carmy isn’t a victim of childhood abuse bc he very obv is and needs help but i think most people would agree being a victim doesn’t rob you of the ability to treat other people poorly, which he does regularly. richie is a part of that. sydney is a part of that. claire is a part of that. marcus is a part of that. and so on and so forth. it’s sort of carmy’s central dilemma: he needs to learn how to process and heal from his abuse so he can treat the people in his life better than he is treating them now. and along that line i could maybe see a future for sc, if the show happened to run long enough that carmy got better and became capable of dating someone while respecting their full personhood. but that would also require sydney to reciprocate any romantic feelings he allegedly has for her. which i don’t think she does at all 😶
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every time i post about the huntlow ship i get a dozen ppl being all “uwu but its my opinion! i just think its cute!” so lemme preface this by saying i also think the huntlow ship is also cute even if i’d find the dynamic more interesting if it’s an unrequited crush hunter has on willow because of his Issues TM. and also if you see a post saying “i dont think this is huntlow” you can literally scroll past and move on with your life instead of being all “well i think it IS!!!” like you want me to apologize or smth?
but anyway yall are reaching way too far with a lot of the so called “huntlow crumbs.” like yeah hunter was blushy in labyrinth runners and in clouds on the horizon he saved willow in the fight against kikimora and odalia. thats a shippy thing. but like, when hunter saw through the willow illusion it’s because he was paranoid and knows nothing about willow except she’s strong enough to not be scared of stuff. similarly, willow not wanting to hit “hunter” with vines isn’t because she’s “in love” with him. if literally any of her other friends were in that position you think she’d hit them? you think she’d murder gus because she wasn’t romantically interested in him? same with when she went to fly the airship because “hunter” got captured. hunter was in shock, gus was holding an illusion, and amity was processing her parents divorce. of course willow would be the first one to react. again, she’d do this for any of her friends.
like im not saying there CANT be a romantic component to these scenes its just that yall are touting the huntlow ship around as on the same level as lumity and raeda when. they literally don’t have any romantic chemistry outside of the occasional blush from hunter. we don’t even have any real indication that willow’s interested. yall are hyperfocused on every frame these two are both in and for what? angsty protective love interests? like we don’t already have much more material with lumity and raeda, which are ships that actually exist in the show
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sadisthetic · 2 years ago
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I’m giving the designers objectively the right amount of credit. I’m a former lego employee :-)
doubt. even if you were, why are you taking personal offense to criticism to the show as a whole and are taking time out in your life to defend something under the mask of anonymity where you have absolutely no claim to your name? wheres your sense of professionalism? taking offense a silly small no name artist questioning a design element. in a caption of bloody fanart no less. and you say youre an ex lego employee! ex! so youre less relevant now. if youre not lying that is. you wont even say what your position was. lego employee is so vague.
anyways. because youre on anon all this claim does is make you sound like the "my uncle works at nintendo!" meme. im sorry to say that as an anon. you are nobody
by the way. by set design im speaking from an entertainment arts perspective. not the sets that kids buy in the store. im talking about sets that are Actually used in the show. this kind of design work.
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http://www.cynthiahalley.com/ not ninjago related but this is MY definition of set design. aka. what im seeing in the show. not the simplified little toy models
anyways. looks like youre not done!
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shakes out my hands. alright! you wanna play this kinda game? okay sure, ill play along! why not. i have time to procrastinate. you are rude by the way!
lets google that very phrase you gave here
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mhm mhm! yup! that sure is the grate that jays prison was based on! but huh..... hm! im kinda curious about what the inside looks like. you know? the inside of the hold that jay is in that this is all about?
lets add a term to the search
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huh! huh! interesting. that doesnt look like anything i saw in the show. hmmmm actually this doesnt give me enough sense about the architecture of the ship, so let do the same research that ive been doing for my own curiositys sake
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cool..... pretty expansive actually. ehhhh i want a tour. this doesnt sate my curiosity enough. i wanna see what the grates underside looks like because im bored and obsessed with this lego show
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i wont waste everyones time. an example is at about 11 minutes in
wow i learned a lot about ships. also i looked at diagrams. not that you ever had the thought to. hm. now how did the hold jay was in look like again
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thats fucking stupid. in the few frames we are given of it of the different angles, its clearly just a fucking box. no depth leading to the curve of the hull, no visible door and likely no door whatsoever bc it would complicate things. a box that probably is in the shape of its opening. lets be real. this is a design that was easy and convenient for the cg modeler to make. ive done 3d work for a class. its hell. i dont blame them. but anyways. ppl who worked on this probably just saw the grates on the surface of the deck and was like oh we dont know what that looks like on the inside but its a perfect place to throw poor ole jay in! grab the trusty basic 3d cube. use difference to cut it out. add texture. and to be honest? yeah the story doesnt need an entire storage space to be built for realism sake. why would they do that for a cg lego show. lets get lazy about it, what do the kids know, whats important is that jays life sucks. the sparseness serves more of a purpose the bleak hopelessness of the pit jay has dug himself into
my point still stands. this is just a hole. it aint right. this is not how old ships were built. this cell was made for jays specifically for the sake of simplicity in both the production standpoint and story. its dumb but serviceable for a narrative purpose
but anyways so from this ive learned an important thing or two about you! you! dont know how to research! you! have only ever looked surface level. literally surface level, you saw these images of the deck and never even thought about whats underneath? the very thing ive been questioning? ive been talking about how its just a fucking cube this entire time. its just a hole. you given me more insight about ships so i thank you for that but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. youre very bad at convincing someone whos right
also you contradicted yourself. you said that "the concepts for the misfortune’s keep were done carefully" but then you go on to say that it "doesn’t require accurate research"? after telling ME, silly ole me who clearly has easily done more research than you, to do a bit research? hello? whats the truth? hm? what are you trying to prove now. doesnt need research because its "basic hollywood tropes" kay so whats been done here is nothing original because theyre copying whats already been done hundreds of times. great argument. dont get me wrong tho i love a good trope. especially when it involves things i enjoy. like jay having the most miserable time. heres the thing tho. what is being brought into question is not what HAPPENS to jay. its the fucking lazy set dressing. am i wrong to point out thats just a hole? its a hole. absolutely no deeper thought has gone into designing that. why are you so mad about it?
i do this for a hobby. criticizing ninjago is literally 75% of the fun for me. thinking soooo much about the shows i like and pointing out the bits that are wack is how i occupy my brain in my spare time. so what are you doing man. is defending ninjagos honor your hobby? get a better one. or at least more thought and consideration and media literacy. like im thinking about the show from a production standpoint as well as writing. this show has So many holes in it btw so theres MUCH to think about and mull over. a lot of stuff for me to play with. its nice in that sense. ninjago is a sandbox if anything. im sure im not alone in thinking this
thanks for the soapbox anon! youve overstayed your welcome! get out of my house! im just a guy with opinions as scathing as they are.
OH WAIT IF YOURE REALLY AN EX LEGO DESIGNER? WHY ARE SO MANY OF THE NINJAS GI'S LAPELS FOLDED RIGHT OVER LEFT? ITS BASIC KNOWLEDGE THAT IN A LOT OF EAST ASIAN CULTURES, TRADITIONAL CLOTHING THAT FOLDED IS FOR DEAD PEOPLE. NINJAGO IS LOOSELY (SO VERY LOOSELY.) BASED ON JAPANESE CULTURE. SO CLEARLY VERY LITTLE RESEARCH GOES INTO DESIGNING THE LITTLE LEGO GUYS OUTFITS THEMSELVES!!!! WHOS THE WHITE GUY WHO DESIGNED THE MINIFIGURES. I HAVE PERSONAL BEEF WITH THEM.
but if youre a nobody. byebye. i dont think you can come back from this. im done here. this was fun. drops the mic
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inkdemon-whore · 3 years ago
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when you get this you have to answer with 5 things u like about yourself, publicly. then, send this ask to 10 of your favorite followers (non-negotiable, positivity is cool) ♡
Btw i dont care if youre proship
bro my phone yeeted the fuck outta my response, anyway uuuuhhhhh
i've been engaging in more media lately, can actually sorta kinda cook, i've been actually doing at least some stuff with some ocs which is great i never use my lil guys, i've been doing some introspection, and uh.... idk, breathing is nice?
i don't really have fav followers, let alone 10, plus i wouldn't be surprised if some of my "faves" are some ppl who left or where just, the most engaged with my content
i appreciate you tho owo uwu
anyway, i know this isn't really in your ask, but it feels sorta relevant, to me at least. i've kinda been thinking about, like, platforming, i guess? and how audiences see creators, and really just, how i go about making content. not super in depth, but like, worrying if my art style is too soft and squishy for me to get into darker/taboo topics, or if i'm some how pulling in the wrong crowd. i don't know any of you, i can take a guess, but at the end of the day, i'll never know why any of you people like my content, or what you're "here for". because i can only ever hope it's for me, and not just the stuff i make, which is probably a bad mindset to have as a creator on the internet, especially tumblr dot fuck off. not gonna bore ya with this shit, i'm still meditating on it, rollin it around in my head, yada yada, so yeah
uuuuhhhhhh there's gonna be some stuff posted in like, march, i think? end of feb sorta? i don't remember, it's scheduled bruno x mirabel art i did not too long ago, so again, to anyone who doesn't wanna see that stuff, blacklist the tag "tw ship"
imma also take the time here to say, yeah, no, i haven't really been doing the whole "break" thing i said i would, it's kinda hard not to sneak in here when i can just type in the password, so, imma key smash a new password, and try to not worry about this place for a bit
if i get like a call out post or somethin when i'm gone........................... idk, i'm not sure if i'd wanna hear about it, i've had quite a few, and though i know i can defend myself and whatnot, i'm getting really close to "why even bother" territory.
if ya want anything from me, fiction doesn't equal reality, but it can be a representation of reality, and sometimes reality is fucking gross and uncomfortable, and art can be a safe place/way to explore those ideas without.... idk, sleeping with my uncle? like, don't, don't sleep with you're uncle, like, i shouldn't have to hold your hand and say that, i expect you people to be intelligent enough to know the difference between non-existent characters and real people, but also like, if that kinda content/relationship triggers you or makes you uncomfortable, then yeah you have every right to unfollow, or even block me.
anyway, that's my final think thunks here, maybe they're a mess, i don't know, i don't care, i've been looming over this blog for too long already about this, and i should probably leave, so, mmmmmmmlater, maybe in like....................................................................... fuck it, i'm not putting a time frame on it, just know this is officially a hiatus until it's not
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flowercrownsnstuff · 7 years ago
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I think this is the reason I can’t bring myself to absolutely love the new series the way I want, and particularly TLJ. The writing and acting clearly codes/plays the first order and Kylo as neo-nazis to the original trilogy’s Nazis, while the *ahem* direction wants you to view the baddies as a sympathetic, redeemable organization. That kind of conflict is just fundamentally incompatible with everything that the first order is tied to irl.
Kylo Ren really is a great example for how sci fi/fantasy writers should tailor their worlds to fit the times, so it could resonate with the actual audience reading them. There would be no point in making a Hitler villain anymore, because we’re not afraid of Hitler, we’re afraid of the 25-year-old malcontented white boy who fondles Hitler memorabilia while sulking in his room.
#i think that’s also the problem i have with the reylo shipping#like have ur trash ships#we’ve all got them!#ship the baddie with the goodies#but like there is already so much in our wolrd trying to make these alt-righters sympathetic in media#framing them as just misguided or smth#meanwhile they’re backing people who claim that genocide of an entire people is justifiable if you just think about it right#and that even if you dont read this much into it and just want a trashy ship or whatever#it concerns me how much people dont seem to view it as such#like if ur self aware I think that fivtion is definitely the best place to explore these kinds or relationships and themes#but with reylo more than any other dark ship or whataver i’ve ever seen#people and especially really young girls on this site seem to view it as a sort of Goals type of thing#where you Save a total piece of shit through???#idk just letting him hurt you and take up all of his childhoof rage out on you??#and i think that’s also the kind of stuff i hate is so prevalent in mainstream fiction and ya fiction already#that it sucks also seeing people glomp onto it here as some kind of desirable fantasy relationship#like ive been around enough people in trash relationships in my life to know#that YES#people are so saturated wih media glorifying these shitty relationships as romantic that they just think they’re normal#and i just dont grt the sense of self awareness in a lot of the cases of reylo shippers and it makes me feel so gross#anyways this got away from me#please for the love of god just be self aware about this shit ppl
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synthetic-sonata · 6 years ago
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🔥 (paswg and danganronpa)
AAAAAAA!!! Anon bless your goddamn heart
UHH
Ok this might get rambly or turn into headcanons bc I love both of these
Also they may not be that unpopular I just like to ramble sometimes but Im gunna try to make it at least slightly unpopular
Also spoilers prob inbound so im just gunna
🔥🔥 Danganronpa 🔥🔥
- V3 is the only Danganronpa where I like every character. Tsumugis a bit bland but that’s how she’s supposed to be, and she isn’t necessarily a horrible character and her free time are kinda cool. Yes, I also like Miu, Gonta, Korey, Angie, and Ouma. (the characters people are generally iffy on although I know a lot of people are also iffy on tsumugi, tenko, himiko, kaede / shuichi, maki, kaito,…. basically everyone)
- The one hundred thousand debates between Kokichi don’t bother me that much (Like the mistranslation and misdrawing of the fifth trial)
- Ok do not slap me before you read all of this but Gontouma is good;; when it’s platonic.
- I don’t actually like Saiouma or Oumami. Saiouma just feels wrong somehow, and Oumami feels like its incest bc of the brother relationship HC / thing people have adopted into canon. I don’t have anything against ppl who ship them though.
- This isn’t an opinion but for some reason SDR2 just kinda skipped my watch list. I got into DR by V3, and watched THH and V3, and I’ve began to watch a series for SDR2 but dropped it. Although I’ve spoiled all of them ahead of time and know their personalities so I still know what happens.
- There isn’t a murder I neccessarily dislike
- Literally nobody calls Korekiyo Korey despite him saying it was also a good nickname but call him Kiyo instead LIKE I AT LEAST EXPECTED OUMA OR GONTA TO ONCE
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🔥🔥 PaSWG 🔥🔥
( this is more rambly ig )
- This isn’t neccessarily unpopular but uhh Japanese was the inferior version and I also dislike Briefs voice in japanese
- I like the sisters equally, it’s like a dan and arin thing if you remove one of them they don’t work that well. I mean, yeah Panty can also work well with Briefs cautious and anxious nature, but Panty is mainly Stockings opposite so them constantly clashing with eachother physically and with their personalities works better imo. I relate to stocking more bc uhh I love sugar and I dislike spicy shit but I still like them equally.
- adding onto that, I like Stockings design more a bit because if Pantys hair always looked how it did in Panty + Brief it’d be the same for both,, idk i dont like how her hair looks defaultly with the fringe thing
- No matter what Brief wears or if he shows his eyes or not he’s absolutely perfect and I don’t have a preference for snazz or geek (well thats a lie i like both equally but like how weirdly exposed briefs forehead is when he uncovers his eyes sets me off a lil but i still generally like them equally)
- get ready for me to talk about brief a lot but I think he was stupidly ooc in episode 10, like god i don’t think he’d act like that at all it feels like he’d be more protective of them in a more fragile state,, i wish he was just being stupidly sarcastic but it lasts throughout the entire episode generally
- Episode 10 was kinda a bad episode in general because the art and animations were so weird lIKE DO U SEE HOW WEIRD PANTY AND STOCKING LOOK WHEN THEY TINY IM
oh yeah we also got to see briefs dick for like 3 frames in that episode so thts a thing
oh yeah this is a common comment on it but like vore. its just VORE. BRIEF CANONICALLY VORED PANTY AND STOCKING
OK LAST THING FOR E10, but uh i feel like tht episode was made because they went like “we need to foreshadow that briefs dick is a key / that hes hellsmonkey” “hmm,,,, what situation would we have to get brief into where chad penis would show,,,” “i know make him have to shit badly and throw off all of his clothes and make garter stare uncomfortably close at his peen!!” “PERFECT” I’m???#E?W!?!Q?Q?!
- brief has some of the best lines when you rewatch the show likE??? “while garter was bitching about you” “WHERE’S PANTY AND WHATEVER THE HELL HER SISTERS NAME IS” the entirety of his pep talk during the transformers episode or just him in that episode in general is golden “yes, yes it does” in response to panty asking if his acne gets set off from the sun or smth (fun fact gingers sunburn easily so panty was kinda close) and also from the same episode “that’s not helping” when panty just does the assdance i’m
OH YEAH!! Don’t forget the PaSWG extra episodes his quotes in that are also amazing like “i love her but she needs some serious therapy” “hello nurse” “are you crying tears of joy?” as zombie pantys eye bleeds mkfmvfk “THAT ISN’T THE PITCH THATS YOUR VAGINA” (thats not what he said i forgot but it was smth like tht) im cdnmc,,,
Give us more assertive / helpful / sassy / sarcastic brief I swear to god i live off of that
- brief should’ve been in more episodes or have had longer scenes in the episodes where he was just there at the start and didn’t have many lines or got kicked out in the middle and just gets shown at the end to remind you he exists
oh yeah last thing abt brief in the episode the daemons were introduced his dick got violently murdered
he got a sword stabbed in his dick (,,,or ass?), a gun pointed at his dick, and scantys sharp looking shoes basically crushing his ba ll S while he’s just whimpering in pain please help this child im
I feel like the only reason he lives through all this pain bc of his bloodmonkey stuff gives him like more resistance to pain i’d assume
- i wish we saw corset at least a bit more or got insight into him and garters relationship
- stockings whole thing at the end doesn’t bother me much bc i think they could do a lot with it, and it was originally said that they had enough material for like 6+ seasons or smth so i wonder if stocking would just die at the end of s2??? was she possesed? what happened gainax,,… i feel like if stocking didn’t come back then idk what they’d do
i also feel like panty being a demon would’ve made more sense. or a secret succubus spy or smth idk… also since stocking and panty are related does that mean they’re like half demon?? did stocking just turn too far into a fallen angel tht she got turned into a demon?? WHAT HAPPENED?
OK IM DONE I SWE 
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sonreiv · 7 years ago
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i absolutely despise when ppl paint katsuki as an abuser when horikoshi doesn't even say he's an abuser. Bullying and Abusing has some similar aspects but they are different at the end of it. Katsuki is. a. bully. Izuku recognizes that Katsuki is a jerk and what he did was wrong/bad (and he actually has stated that he hates katsuki, twice) but still sees his strong qualities that make him admire him
(This ask has been sitting in my drafts for the longest time and I thought with the upcoming episodes it was the perfect time to stop procrastinating and finally finish it. Sorry for the wait, nony! I mostly agree with you, but I want to further discuss some points so I hope you don’t mind I got a bit lenghty. You got me an excuse to ramble up some meta haha.)
A TL;DR beforehand: canon analysis supports that Katsuki should not be interpreted as an abuser, but an early bully at most. I also did a little analysis on the early middle school chapter and how it shows BNHA’s society/the peers Deku and Katsuki grew up around set up a bullying enticing enviroment, and how bad translations have us interpret their relationship as more aggravating than it really is - Deku NEVER said he hates Katsuki, for instance. Not once.
I agree that Katsuki is not to be interpreted as an abuser. He does not want to pursue Deku in order to hurt him; instead, he wants to push Deku away from himself. There’s a difference between “I want to possess you, to make you stay around me and hurt you emotionally and physically” - and “I don’t want anything to do with you, go away, don’t interact with me or else”. The first one is abuse. The second one is what Katsuki felt about Deku for most of his life (albeit very simplified). At the times when Katsuki did hurt him - threatening him in middle school, getting out of hand during the heroes vs villains team trial, punching him during the end of the term exam, etc - was because he felt threatened; so his response was to push him away with violence, with an attempt at “teaching” Deku to stay away from his lane.
This is not to defend Katsuki’s actions; this is only a reasoning, not an excuse. His violent behavior towards Deku is still inexcusable. I only want to make clear there’s a difference between “I want to go out of my way to hurt you” and “I will smack you if you push me”, even if his concept of being pushed is distorted to his own experience and it still does not make his violent actions okay. He fears and despises what Deku did at those times: talking to Katsuki as if Katsuki isn’t on the pedestal he grew up believing he was on. This is the core of Katsuki’s feelings. He does not want to abuse Deku. He wanted him to go away, and he WOULD physically/verbally assault him if that meant pushing Deku away from him. And the rest of his threats/aggressive banter is just really how he talks to everyone else.
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Even in canon it’s explicitly stated Deku was the one who insisted on following him because of his admiration, and that was what Katsuki couldn’t stand; he wanted him to be away.
And that was way before. The game is changing, and the development of their relationship is one of the core points of the series. Katsuki recognized him as someone who is not allowed to lose, someone worthy of All Might’s trust, and just very slowly started talking to Deku like he does to everyone else.
I also believe that affirming Katsuki would be an abuser in a romantic relationship with Deku misses the point if the person is okay with it if it’s a friendship/platonic relationship, or if they ship Katsuki with other people. Someone who is abusive does not isolate their behavior to one single person, nor does abuse happen only in romantic relationships. Abusive friendships exist. If one thinks katsudeku is okay as long as it’s platonic, if they believe in their growth and healing enough to believe they can start and share a healthy friendship, then the same should be applied to a romantic relationship. Also if Katsuki were to be an abusive partner to Deku, he’d be the same to other partners. If he were to be emotionally manipulative, possessive, constantly putting him down and hurting him while also keeping him - he’d do it to any other partners. The thing is people who ship katsudeku usually don’t ship it hc'ing that Katsuki keeps his ill behavior towards Deku in the relationship - we cherish the character’s growth and development. The canon Katsuki, the Katsuki with the bad behavior in the older chapters, as stated above, didn’t even wish to keep Deku around as a peer, let alone to form some kind of deeper bond. The romantic katsudeku ship I personally want is the kind where Katsuki grows and changes (as it’s slowly happening in canon) enough past his insecurities towards Deku to be okay with approaching him like he does to other peers. No possessiveness, no emotional abuse, because I personally don’t see that coming from him.
Since we got to this point, something interesting and relevant that I don’t usually see being pointed out is that in the very beginning of the story, it wasn’t only Katsuki opposing to the idea Deku could enter UA while being quirkless. The entire class laughed at him, and the teacher didn’t bat an eye.
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This is not to gloss over the fact Katsuki did show unexcusable behavior towards Deku, but I think the scene was set up that way to show it was not only Katsuki’s isolated behavior, but the system, BNHA’s society is shaped to mock and discourage individuals who believe they can become heroes or achieve certain things despite the conditions of their quirk(lesness). The way the society is shaped was Deku’s childhood bully. He was mocked by his peers as young as 4, while at the same time Katsuki was put in a pedestal because of his quirk - which led to his massive ego complex. We can’t analyse their personalities and relationship without taking in account the context they grew up in. Many people frame Katsuki as the single-handed culprit for Deku’s bullying background without taking this whole context into account, while also casting Deku the role of a submissive, persecuted victim when he deliberately chose to stick around Katsuki, and just generally shows to be a character with a lot more agency than that.
And what’s interesting in this scene is that Katsuki didn’t laugh along with everyone else when Deku says he wants to apply and he might have a chance. Because Katsuki takes that seriously. He takes that as a personal offence. The whole point of Katsuki’s ill feelings towards Deku were always that he
feels as Deku is mocking his efforts by believing that himself, a quirkless boy who didn’t do any kind of physical preparation for a heroics course - has chances of becoming a hero as much as Katsuki, who is a born genius AND presumably prepared himself to apply to UA, with training and studying, going as far as scolding his colleague for smoking because he wanted a clean student record.
he feels threatened by Deku because ever since they were kids, as much as Deku admired him, he also saw Katsuki as someone who was able to get hurt and could have a hand offered to like anyone else; Deku saw him as superior in terms of skill, but an equal as a human being, while all the other kids did not. And that made Katsuki not stand him. Because he’s scared of being anything less than the very best, he’s scared of being someone who can be offered help - in his eyes, someone who can be pitied and looked down onto.
And that’s why he reacts with hostility. He wants to intimidate Deku out of even trying to apply to UA. It’s even stated by Katsuki’s colleagues he got out of hand this time, implying it’s not normal behavior for Katsuki (and I’ve seen people saying it was confirmed by Horikoshi himself, though I don’t have sources so don’t quote me on that). Again, he will only seriously smack Deku down if he feels threatened. He does not go out of his way to put him down on a daily basis because he doesn’t want to interact with Deku to begin with.
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Also, Deku actually never stated he hates Katsuki. Not once. What he actually says is closer to “he may be a jerk, but-”, which is how the official english translation translated it, as seen above (stole the picture from this post by @kiraelric because it’s where I found it faster :P). Here’s a post explaining it, and I quote @sugarmagic who gently broke down the first panel - which FA translated as “I hate his guts” - for me:
Basically the word 嫌う, the verb form is “to hate” but 嫌な奴 is “unlikable/disagreeable guy.” So what I’m pretty sure happened is that they didn’t realize な was modifying the word to be an adjective. It’s not describing Deku’s feelings, it’s describing Kacchan’s character. The reading of the kanji is written as “iyana yatsu,” versus “Kacchan ga kurai” which really would be “I hate Kacchan”. Then again, even if they read it that way, the furigana explicitly shows the reading, so I don’t even know what they were thinking.
 The translation group Fallen Angels takes way too much freedom and completely distorts some lines, and the dislike of Bakugou/his relationship with Deku in the western fandom was heavily influenced by interpreting it via FA’s aggravated translations. I had people who know japanese tell me how gratuitously innacurate the translations are - as an example, FA translates Deku thinking Katsuki is difficult to deal with as Deku thinking Katsuki causes him to be aware of his own flaws (source). The translations paint Bakugou’s character and his relationships, specially with Deku, unnecessarily harsher than they really are. In fact, something the localisation usually fails to translate is how Bakugou’s “die!” and similar threats are not be taken as seriously in japanese as one would in english - but rather pretty immature and petty (source).
So! If you read up to this point and you’re interested in reading other meta on Katsuki and Deku’s characters and relationship, you should check @explodo-smash’s meta tag. They’re a pretty smart team and can explain/analyse things better than me - in fact their meta helped me a lot understand better their dynamics post my bloody Fallen Angel readings. That’s all for today, and thank you for taking the time to read.
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captain-spandex · 7 years ago
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Okay! So I saw tlj again! ⚠️ Spoiler Warning! while they’re are still are problems I have with the film, i genuinely enjoyed it more the second time.
For one, I found the scene transitions, and cinematography much more beautiful. The framing of the entire film was lovely. The manipulation of lighting and atmosphere and color was... The entire thing was just genuinely really beautiful.
I also enjoyed the music and fight choreography much more.
The two things I have the most problems with are the scenes between Rey and Kylo and the mischaracterization of Luke, Poe, and Finn.
Rey and Kylo clearly had a hateful and abusive and manipulative relationship. Both in Tfa and even in this movie. However, it felt like Johnson was trying to force this kind of ~chemistry~, which just felt wholly uncomfortable. Now, I could argue that it was supposed to feel uncomfortable, due to the manipulation of Snoke. However, I dont think that was Johnson’s intention. I think it’s more myself trying to see how to go forward.
Okay. Now for the Big Problems.
Luke would never even consider killing a student. This is the guy that saw good in Darth Fucking Vader. Luke would’ve talked to Ben about it before he ever considered killing him.
Poe wouldnt carelessly sacrifice ppl just to take out a big ship. He also wouldn’t disobey a direct order from Leia. He respects and loves her immensely.
Also! Holdo also couldve been much more interesting. However, because the plot dictated she needed to fuel an unnecessary conflict, she decided to keep her plan secret :^) why? she should’ve told everyone her plan? make ppl believe in her? like for real there was no reason for it to be kept secret?
Finn. Finn didnt get nearly enough screen time. He shouldve been seen as a Hero (im looking at you Holdo and your “a stormtrooper” line). Finn also would probably understand what was disgusting about the gross consumerism of Canto Bight. I just. He should have been given more. Much More.
So. I still have problems with the film. However, I feel much better seeing it a second time. Again the scenes i found most uncomfortable were the ones where Kylo and Rey interacted. But I did like it! Especially the cinematography. The framing of the film was beautiful. So yeah! I dont hate it! Which is nice. It hurt before, feeling disappointed in something I wanted to love.
But now I feel like I’m ready and excited to see how we move forward.
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doribuki · 8 years ago
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So far you have 4 butch villains out of the entire show, and you can't use the 'Lapis and Peridot don't count because they've changed' excuse because then anyone can point out that two of your four villains are gone now so they shouldn't count either. Also, if you didn't want people to see and comment on your post, why even post it?
BECAUSE??? ITS MY FUCKING BLOG??? AND SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH, NOT EVERY POST I EVER MAKE HAS TO SPIRAL INTO A BIG DISCUSSION. SOMETIMES A POST IS JUST A POST
MOVING ON THOUGH like okay, that’s another thing that i noticed when i talked about this to a friend; su has a habit of introducing butch coded villains and then discards them. 
like. they dont get a chance to get development to become more than just big butch villain before theyre poofed away, or whatever fucking else happens. 
fun fact as well; when introduced and at the peak of her villainy, y’all notice that peridot had a lot of angles that made her boxier?? sharper?? peridot when she was first introduced was As Overtly Butch as jasper was but as a lesbian i still got those major butch pings, and i reckon the same can be said for a lot of other ppl. 
also; lapis has never been coded as an out and out villain. shes always ALWAYS been framed as a victim. anti-hero before she got shipped to the barn and just became a big ol depression/ptsd running joke. 
why the fuck do you all care about this so much anyway i dont even care about su im just making an observation and yet you all think im taking torches and pitchforks to the show. good fucking god. get a grip.
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Its like one of those ships where its fine and sometimes even enjoyable in theory! If i werent terminally online id probably like. Genuinely ship it as a timeskip friends to lovers slowburn thing. Like one of the things i just accept as part of my future hcs of the cast post canon. Eda and raine have a wedding officiated by lilith. Darius and raine have catty (ha) custody battles over hunter. Lumity and huntlow go on double dates and have a rom com double wedding in their thirties. Im fine with this.
But actually spending time in the fandom? The hunter and willow tags are saturated with the ship to the point that you cant even filter it out because some shippers assume that hunter and willow being in love is a given in the show! (It isn't, by the way. Hunter canonically has a crush on willow bc hes been shown with the visual shorthands to indicate a crush when there arent enough episodes left to explore it. Willow has never been shown to have romantic interest in hunter) and since its a given they dont have to tag stuff with huntlow in the background. Either that or they tag everything that mentions these two in the same paragraph or shows them in the same frame as huntlow bc anything theyre doing outside of being a couple is still huntlow bc there still in love while doing this other thing!
And dont get me started on the "winter" tag which is just gets ship content buried under ppl using this very common word in posts about other stuff. Or push a random ship onto ppl who have no idea wtf toh is and just wanted pictures of snow or smth. So you either need to block all content about these two characters to avoid the ship (which isnt an option for ppl who like hunter and willow and their friendship but dont like the ship) or just resign yourself to seeing every vaguely related tag saturated with a ship you dont like
And even if i do like the ship the way the two are represented in in fanworks, especially willow, puts a bad taste in my mouth. Willow and gus needed more focus episodes and the fandom had a preference for edgy (and white) characters like amity and hunter so willow doesnt get as much attention in the fandom. But when willow finally gets another focus episode any focus on the actual substance to her character (self esteem issues, impostor syndrome, effects of bullying) is overshadowed by ppl gushing about how she would make a good girlfriend for hunter
And it almost always is how SHE would be good for HUNTER. Hunter came out of ASIAS with new friends and an understanding that willow will accept him even if he fucks up bc she knows he will do the right thing. Thats really sweet, friendship or romance wise, and the entrails are a good support system for hunter while he recovers from his belos trauma. He has reason to crush on willow, even if i think the "fall in love with your rescuer" trope is iffy if not done right. Willow however doesnt get a reason to crush on hunter, and hasnt had a conversation with him onscreen since ASIAS. Almost every piece of serious huntlow fanwork is about willow helping hunter through some kind of issue. And on its own its sweet. I love me some hurt/comfort. but the saturation of works where willow is just there to be hunters therapist or a symbol to show hunter is getting better by virtue of having a girlfriend makes willow out to be hunters "reward" for helping his friends or worse, recovering from trauma.
Ppl say the obligatory "hunter doesnt underestimate willow so he can help her self esteem" (which isnt how self esteem works) because fans do want huntlow to be more balanced than in canon, so this is their proposed reason that willow would reciprocate hunters feelings. but almost every huntlow fanwork about that focuses on hunter worshipping the ground willow walks on and willow is in the background of content meant to explore HER issues, there to reward hunter for being a "good boyfriend" by being romantically attracted to him. I like a lot of ships where one member has more issues and needs more support than the other. But in those ships, if the other member has issues, thats more acknowledged and explored by the fanbase. Seeing huntlow fans acknowledge willows issues and only exploring on how HUNTER interacts with them feels more hollow to me than if they just characterized willow as a perfect emotional support girlfriend.
Fluff and comedic stuff about huntlow tend to characterize willow a lot more accurately to the show. Either that or they reduce willow to a stereotypical female love interest who swoons at everything hunter does. Hunter however kind of gets reduced to a poor little meow meow willow needs to protect which. He is kind of dumb and pathetic in a funny way in canon but i feel like some works woobiefy him a little too much to the point where it gets uncomfortably ooc. That being said characters get exaggerated all the time for comedy so i dont have a problem with it. Unless the creator uses a REALLY outdated trope to make the joke land. Like willow, whos never been shown to be possessive, being jealous of other girls paying attention to hunter, who no one in canon has found attractive so far. (Just bc yall like the edgy boi look doesnt mean every teen in toh who comments on his looks didnt roast him for looking scraggly as hell)
The way hunter is often portrayed as willows loyal subordinate also makes me uncomfortable. In canon he has an unhealthy attachment to authority figures, putting himself in danger to blindly follow belos's orders. Willow whos technically hunters superior in flyer derby treats him well, but that doesnt make hunters subsequent attachment to her healthy. What makes hunters dynamic with belos bad isnt just that belos abuses him. Its also how hunter sees himself as worthless without something to serve. Hunter calling willow "captain" instead of her name, to me, shows he still sees her as more of an authority figure than his friend. His lack of one on one interactions with willow outside of helping each other in battle, contrasted with how he acts around gus, who he does consider a friend, compounds this. If hunter is to date willow, they have to see each other as equals for it to be healthy. And right now, hunter sees himself as being subservient to her. Hunter respecting and supporting willow isnt the problem. The problem is he seems to think thats his duty as her subordinate.
All of that would be fine if huntlow fanworks portray this dynamic as unhealthy. But instead this is romanticised in almost every fanwork. Its concerning that ppl see a ship where one member is portrayed as blindly devoted to the other because they have a history of idolizing those in authority they think can hurt them, and say its fluffy and romantic. Because the subservient one is the boy its subversive and therefore progressive and therefore good, i guess.
I dont ascribe to the "hunters too mentally ill to have a girlfriend" train of thought bc mentally ill ppl date all the time. Its a case by case basis. But in hunters case, his relationship with willow, romantic or platonic, will reinforce his habit of worshipping authority figures until someone calls him out on it. And if willow knew about hunters admiration for her as a leader, it would stress her out because she feels both responsible for taking care of her friends and inadequate to do so. If they remained just friends, there would be more leeway to not get into that in the show, even if it would be interesting. But if hunter and willow were to get together in canon, it would feel incomplete to just gloss over that. So when huntlow fanworks do gloss over or romanticize this dynamic, i feel like a lot of nuance is lost.
Anyway all of this is to say the way fans portray this ship squicks me out sometimes. Individual huntlow fans arent a problem (unless you go on posts that dont blindly praise the ship and yell at the op in the replies. You know who you are), nor are individual fanworks. I think its more the general fandom culture and the implicit biases apparent in the tropes everyone uses that i dont like. Not all huntlow fanworks rub me the wrong way and some are genuinely amazing. Its just that as someone who relates a lot to willow, its disheartening to see ppl only pay attention to willow when shes attached to an edgy white boy. And as a fan of hunter its disappointing that instead of talking about his fascinating dynamic with wilow, ppl are mostly hyperfocusing on a few blushes.
My problems with the fan portrayal of the ships is just what i dislike about shipping culture and fandom tropes in general. Again, individual fans are just having fun and theres nothing wrong with that. Its just not for me. The ship saturates basically every mildly relevant tag and since im not a hardcore shipper, it becomes annoying even if i like some huntlow stuff. I have a similar problem with lumity, though less so bc i like lumity a lot more and it has a lot more canonical basis.
If i was more active online during my other hyperfixations id probably say something similar about komahina or dirkjake or dipifica. But ive been having owl house brainrot since march. And if huntlow stans can write 800 thinkpieces on why hunter, a survivor of domestic abuse, thinking willow can and will beat him up in fanon and liking it, is a healthy dynamic that proves the ship will be canon, and is also progressive bc this time the one who might get beat up is a boy, i can scream like a deranged chimpanzee about how i find the huntlow fandom annoying sometimes.
Its like. Hunters crush on willow is adorable and i like the parallels they have with lumity as well as hunters parallels with caleb wittebane. And willow has absolutely no reason to return hunters crush rn but she obviously cares about him as a friend. And if they bond more in season 3 i can see her deciding hes cute in a skrunkly kind of way.
And yeah if they want these two to be in an actual healthy relationship in the show they have to address hunters unhealthy attachment to authority figures since he obviously sees willow as one. (The "captain" thing is not cute i will fight ppl on this) they should also address willows inferiority complex and impostor syndrome since landing a boyfriend absolutely will not fix this.
Or they can have them get together in the show before they address this and we get to see their relationship devolve into madness because hunter will be all "omg captain youre so cool ❤❤❤❤❤ ill do anything you want bc my entire self worth depends on the approval of someone ive decided is fundamentally better than me ❤❤❤❤❤ im gonna enable all your attempts to suppress your own emotions to help your friends bc thats how i think ppl who arent mentally ill act ❤❤❤❤❤" and willow will be all "wow hunter youre so supportive 😍😍😍😍😍 and you keep being my yes man and saying i can literally do no wrong 😍😍😍😍😍 so im gonna be your makeshift therapist and never talk about my feelings ever bc i dont want you to think less of me 😍😍😍😍😍" and we can either see them dramatically break up or address this and become closer as friends and love interests and either way itll be glorious
But then i see the way the owl house fandom portrays and talks about this ship and its like. Now I want them to never get together or address this ship in canon. Out of spite.
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