#I don't know seventeen people
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woozi being the one saying "just trust me once baby, i'll never let you down baby" hits different after everything they've been through recently
#it is unfortunate that the person they collabed with isn't a good person but woozi and seventeen has never let us down#yet people keep undermining them and attacking them before even knowing the full story#they saw dj khaled + love money fame and thought they were going to start flaunting their riches without a second thought#but the song just ended up being about love. in fact they even said they don't prioritise money and fame over love#and after reading woozis post i just feel so bad for him#everyone is counting on him and it cannot be easy to bear that burden for your entire team#+ he ended it with 'we'll make a better album' like no woozi this is already a good album. you don't need to keep outdoing yourself#idk his message just made me so sad. i hope the pressure doesn't get to him too bad. he's allowed to rest#woozi#seventeen
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my father is an olympic gold medalist in the sport of emotionally tormenting women
#bolo speaks#I've had him blocked on everything for the past two years because I was one of the women he terrorizes even when I was still a girl#but I'm only able to do that because *other* women in my family are on the frontlines dealing with him. which I am keenly aware of.#anyway I got a message from my grandma asking if I was mad at her because he'd been saying that I hated her (untrue and bizarre to boot#like just factually a man I haven't been on speaking terms with since I was seventeen has no leg to stand on whatsoever wrt to what I have#going on emotionally or in my relationships. but he's nothing if not adept at digging into people's worst insecurities so I get why she'd#be bothered)#and he has a new girlfriend now who I haven't met but who he treats the way he treated my mother before they separated#going into drunk rages breaking her things degrading her etc. and *her* family encourages her to ignore it because he's got money#and I don't know. I don't know my dad's girlfriend I've never met her but I am intimately aware of just how horribly#he treats every woman in his life. anyway [NAME] if you're reading this GET OUT ‼️#and the worst part is that he is like. a genuine shameless misogynist like he'd go on these crazy rants about#how women are just vaginas and we're all stupid and hysterical anyway so it doesn't matter if me and mom are scared of him#because we're just dumb women. which has naturally torched his bridges with me and every other woman in our family right.#and his takeaway from that is that he's *right* and being put-upon by all these irrational harpies for no valid reason.#my dad voice: are women scared of me because I'm violent and unpredictable? no. it's those stupid bitches that are wrong.
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joseph gordon-levitt called jim hawkins "just a very good-looking wasp of a boy that I will never be" and I've been thinking about that for two weeks
#even he was like “okay this was intentional”#and yes. every Jim Thing was SO intentional. I've read every scrap of material on the movie's creation and process I can get my eyeballs on#and I think one of the reasons I like Jim so much is that every single thing they did with him they were excited about#they were so passionate about it. they wanted to do things with his eyes and hands and expressions-#-that they said they hadn't tried yet because they wanted jim to be as real as they could get him to be#surrounded by all these not-so-real looking worlds and aliens#because his struggles were realistic and his season in life was so relatable in the story#they did model him off jimmy dean but they also modeled him off of joseph gordon-levitt and the poses and faces he'd make#JGL was SEVENTEEN when he voiced jim. he was not fully grown#jim was so “good-looking” as an animated character not just because of how he was drawn but because he himself is supposed to be so raw/rea#and that instinctively makes you like him more. plus. he IS drawn a specific way#and he IS cute don't get me wrong (he is a child)#but there's something about writing a character as true to life as you can#and trying to express something very real through that character that people can understand and care about#in order to make a true point#that sticks to people and influences them. and that's what happened with Jim#it's like Percy Jackson or Holden Caulfield#no I have never been claimed as a child of a Greek god and exploded a toilet#no I have never gotten expelled repeatedly or mugged in the 1950s#but I do know what it's like to want deep connections with people and despair of getting them#and I do know what it's like to wish I could get something right#Percy and Holden AND JIM all express those things at one point or another#they express other things too. they feel very REAL. so you listen to them and you connect with them#and just like with real people you look at them and they become more attractive to you (both literally and figuratively)-#-as you get to know them and understand them better#that's how you characterize#that's good writing#and in Jim's case good ANIMATING too#continually blown away by the massive amount of energy and thought and buckets and buckets of INTENTION that went into Treasure Planet#and it was not released at the proper time to get the attention it should've gotten
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so I saw people on reddit talking about the woozi situation (and this was specifically about woozi since it was in the seventeen sub) and I'm just????? people are calling it a non-issue because censorship, you don't know how much he's watched etc. and I understand not labelling him as a p*dophile but you can't just call it a non-issue because of all those ^ things because maybe he didn't watch the censored version?? Maybe he finished it and enjoyed it?? AND a big 'get a fucking life' to those people who think this is just some personal unwarranted hate towards woozi. "Ur not a real carat the boys told us to trust them!!!!!" NO
#tw pedophila mention#i don't usually make “original” posts about issues just bc idk if i have all the info#but for this one it seems like everyone's in agreement about the details#there's just different interpretations of what it means#also idk if there's been anything new so sorry if there has#i haven't gone back to the discussion thread on reddit since that bc i got angry#and my twitter stuff is limited to what comes up when i search 'seventeen'#but anyway my point is it's totally valid for people to be wary of woozi#ur the weird ones for saying people should be totally fine with it#sry not sure how to tag this properly pls let let me know!!
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update if you're anxiously awaiting the follow-up to my post from last night: i went to the open mic and performed one of my aubrey monologues!! tbh this performance was the best any of my aubrey performances have gone so far (tho to be fair that's a bit of a low bar. i don't mean to be self-deprecatting or discredit the people who have seen my performances so far and liked them, i'm mostly judging from how it feels to be performing which doesn't always line up with outside perceptions etc.)
idk if it's at a level yet where i'd want to post the video bc there were two main spots where i know my pacing could have been better, and also the audience barely laughed (which was fine bc there was barely anyone in the audience and they were spread out throughout the room and people tend to not laugh as frequently when they're by themselves) but that might make the audio seem weird
but as for positives: most of the people at the open mic had their notebooks/papers/phones/etc. with them bc they were trying out new material and had to check it as they went, which is a fine and normal thing to do, but it really made me stand out that i had my monologue completely memorized (which was very cool bc like. yes i've done the uncle reg monologue more than any other but i have revised some pieces so they were new, and i didn't even practice the monologue at all during the day leading up to the open mic! it's just in me!)
i still need to work on my physicality a bit more but wow this stage made such a difference. for one thing it's the first actual deliberate performance venue i've done aubrey at (i had three shitty classroom performances and one at a coffee shop which even tho it technically had a stage in the corner it clearly wasn't the main purpose of the room). and even more important it's a stage i've performed on so many times in a different context (with my improv troupe) that i felt more comfortable walking around and using the full space rather than standing still
interestingly even tho i was definitely an outlier in many ways compared to the other comedians (youngest performer, only performer who's not a cis man, potentially the only queer performer tho i can't be certain of that since i don't know some of the other comedians on that level) i actually really loved that contrast bc it brought more energy to my piece (and i have a high tolerance level for cishet men, especially in comedy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i am who i am).
surprisingly i was not the only "extra" comedian (as in, a comedian that requires things other than the bare essentials to perform their set) but that's just bc my favorite improv scene partner was also performing tonight and he did a whole bit that involved a candle, two lighters, and a tarp, which made my character-schtick seem average in comparison lmao
i'll probably do another one when i can (they're the first thursday of every month, i might be in toronto for july's show but i'll probably be around for august)
#i don't have my video of my set yet bc fire-guy's wife filmed it for me on a high quality video camera and idk when she'll send it over#it was a great time especially bc even tho i've been performing with the improv people who were there for over 5 years now#they hadn't seen me do any aubrey stuff yet so it was cool to share that side of my comedy#and i love that the two ''weird'' bits were from me and fire-guy bc he's legit one of my favorite comedians to work with#(even tho he's not a professional comedian like this guy's day job is some super advanced physics thing. he and his wife both have PHDs)#someday i'm gonna make some kind of show or project and cast him in a role lmao#i remember when i was like seventeen he introduced me to someone as ''the funniest person i know''#and that same year he was given an uncomfortable prompt in a solo-improv thing#and he ended up taking it in a surreal direction that made it much funnier and after the show he told me that he came up with it by going#''ok what would jess do if they were given this prompt''#so yeah i'm happy even doing our solo ''standup'' sketches we were able to do our own weird bits together#btw this post is like mostly for me. if you read all this that's cool but if not that is fine i'm just using this to process
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#rebecca traister#marriage#uspol#this article is honestly a bit of a muddle structurally#but i think she touches on some good points#and i also just. appreciate the invitation to give the increase in lobbying for Marriage a good skeptical squint#because honestly i've encountered very little skepticism about the institution even in liberal parts#and i do actually think it's like. seventeen weasels in uneasy harness#like fundamentally the fact that you get a tax break for being married is. what the actual fuck.#similarly i know it's like. considered irresponsible to be down on marriage because it's important for queer ppl to have equal access to it#in the face of a society that has often refused to recognize our relationships‚ and i get that#but like. in an ideal world i think more people ought to explicitly set up medical proxies‚ iron-clad wills‚ etc#rather than the current setup where Marriage is meant to serve as shorthand#for a bizarre assortment of statuses‚ some of which should be more broadly available—#people ought to be able to share their health insurance more broadly!#(i mean for that matter health insurance shouldn't depend on employment‚ for many reasons.)#(but like. it's a whole fucked up chain. you depend on a company affiliation; yr spouse depends on a spousal affiliation)#(and anybody who can't or won't get themself within the pale of a network that will shelter them? is just fucked)#—and some of which shouldn't exist at all. like. i'm sorry. governmental financial incentive to enter into wedlock???#anyway i don't think i've ever seen any skepticism/alienation wrt marriage on here except from soph#so i can't imagine this tag rant will be a particularly popular opinion#but it's like. marriage IS a conservative institution and societal pressure to engage in it is part and parcel of the machine#that's trying to grind us all back towards christian white supremacist cisheteropatriarchy etc etc etc.#(and yes there are many people of various marginalizations who dig marriage)#(and to whom their own personal marriage is imbued with its own individual meaning)#(and like. a marriage between marginalized people does not cause them to perfectly fit the trad model and receive perfect acceptance)#(like. just look at buttigieg.)#(but like. similarly it's true that the attempt to restrict abortion access is a deeply conservative project)#(even as there are more nuanced conversations it's possible to have about particular axes of reproductive justice)#(was that enough disclaimers?)
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when ur friends who are younger than you are discussing the latest internet discourse and you just cannot relate because you have moved on from that phase of your life. a fascinating look into a world of stupid problematization that is beyond your wildest dreams. a glimpse of The Horrors
#i know you don't have to be 15 to worry about discourse but that's a skill issue from these older people's part#not genshin#like oh my god what even are these discussions. and why are they phrased in such specific and irritating ways#sorry. preaching from my ivory tower of seventeen years of age#complaining tag#<- sort of
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#i'm thinking of adding summaries to my masterlist but i don't know how many people actually prefer them#so vote if you feel like it *-*#nct scenarios#the boyz scenarios#txt scenarios#ateez scenarios#p1harmony scenarios#wei scenarios#sf9 scenarios#oneus scenarios#seventeen scenarios#cix scenarios
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rewatched in the soop 2 and now i have the its song stuck in my head... also restarting in the soop 1 :D life is fun fun fun
#idk i just. seventeen <3#they really make me want to? live?#ig#and i don't mean like 'oh i want to d*e' but like they make me want to have fun#to love#to be loved#to sing and to miss notes and to make bad jokes and to eat good food#and to cry a little to have deep convos and then tease someone to get into something to read a book#like they make me want to enjoy life to its fullest#to really and truly try to get everything good out of this world#and like. god only knows you can get lost with all the bad things in this world#and yet there is always#there is constantly something good happening#and my constant right now#is seventeen#theyre my something good i wake up to everyday#and you truly dont need a lot in life#some good people food music and id make it out on the other side#anyway. i love seventeen with my all heart and im grateful we live in the same world#im grateful i live in this world#(this is what goes on in my mind when i watch its)#(im an overthinker in case u didn't notice)#sammy's podcast
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Did I just read a post about how carats and seventeen members hate seungcheol?
#seungcheol#svt#i follow some tag so more often than not posts by people i don't follow just pop up#and today this one person that we can't even call seventeen friends to coups because they are merely work buddie#and I'll give in to the fact that i don't know but about fandom behavior#but did we watch the same videos? the same anything regarding svt?#because that's the one thing i always noticed about seventeen how close they are#even before i started to really like them#and if someone thinks that because they tease the fuck out of each other means that don't love and care about each other#i have some news for you my friend#that's basically how man function#my friends tease each other to the point where if it were i would be in tears#but the second one of them has am issue small as it might be they're in it#what i just read was too absurd omg
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this is 10000% a sign i should have gone to bed ages ago but i just have to get this out there
okay so we had a brief chat about alien vernon and in my sleepless delirium i thought of him being able to glow like some deep sea creatures do with their bioluminescence, and then that got me to thinking about if his hands would glow a little more for extra light for when he's rummaging for things in the sand or whoknows what, and then that got me to wondering if you could see his glow from beneath your skin when he's fingering you, and maybe similarly with his dick too
#creature feature brought to you by seventeen#don't ask me why i thought of this when i don't know other then i was up all night long and will probably force myself to stay awake#at least until like 8 pm so i can try and fix my fucked up internal clock#cuz of course the only time people wanted to see me was during the late ass hours of night when nothing is open#and even the last time was well over a month ago so idk why my dumb ass has been staying up so late for so long
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If you're a carat and pull the "lets trust svt first" without actually understanding it doesn't mean "lets never hold them accountable" or "they're innocent little angels who do nothing wrong" then please stay 29833 meters away from me and i hope you actually grasp the meaning of that phrase otherwise the real world will eat you alive, thanks.
#imagine trusting so blindly on people you don't personally know#i adore svt to the point I KNOW they can make mistakes#and the best thing i. as a fan and not a friend. can do is hope they learn abt their mistakes rather than hiding them or encouraging them#like brah how that very simple phrase completely lost its meaning?#rambless#why seventeen got such bad fans i don't get it they don't even do bad boy concepts like 😭
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WHAT TAROT CARD ARE YOU?
THE STAR
there is something wonderful stirring in the depths of your being. something within you– something latent– is sleeping there, in the cradle of your mind. creativity comes naturally to you, just as breathing or blinking. you have the capability to extend yourself through art. but are you afraid of it? creating something– terribly afraid that it will never be as good as you hope? it will never be made unless you use your own hands. / NUMBER: 17 / UPRIGHT: hope, faith, purpose, renewal, spirituality / REVERSED: lack of faith, despair, self-trust, disconnection
tagging: @fasciinating, @transcendcnce, @sohelish, @jurati, @scottyland, @lehmccoy, @lcvelj, @nebulaties (ooh pike or zypher?), @doctordonovan, @conzierge, @tossedcoin, @wild-flcwer (moon), @thebrazenandbold (zoe!), @paramounticebound, @theyhope (for anyone!)
#dg. | эти со��еты ужасны#this is an interesting result hmmm.#i took this twice for pavel and his second result was the fool#which was v fitting too#i don't know a lot about the tarot cards but what i know of the fool i always thought it was very fitting for pav#but i think this result is neat in a different way and since i got it first i'll keep it here#gosh i never usually tag so many people a;lsdfkj i went off#THE NUMBER BEING SEVENTEEN DOES GET ME THOUGH
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spoke to my father over lunch about my future, the field of psychology & neuroscience, advocacy law, etc. and i’m honestly beginning to seriously look into being a professor, most likely of psychology. because what i’ve been grappling with a lot lately is an interest to go into clinical psychology, but also the fact that while doing that may leave me time to pursue research endeavors, i may lack time to actually pursue the ethics of the field of psychology & psychiatry. which as we all know, there are so many ethical problems with how psychology runs currently, the DSM-5 is a disaster, my father (bless him) is going to get me an autobiography about someone who was misdiagnosed six different times under the DSM-4 (iirc?). like there are so many things i want to tackle rather than just sitting there and upholding the system; there’s a lot of good in therapy but ideally i would want to be a therapist who actually seeks to change systemic problems.
i think the ideal future for me, honestly, would be if i could juggle being a therapist, a professor, and a lawyer all at once. whether i can actually do this is unlikely because that requires (1) having the ability to get all those degrees which would cost so much money and (2) having the fucking time to do any of this, while working a job, which would get me that aforementioned money. so i don’t think this is actually plausible, but like.
being a college professor sounds like a good lifestyle i think. be it for political science (which i’m still thinking about in terms of lifelong prospects) or for psychology, i would find that interesting. i am just wondering how i can adapt law into this so i can challenge some ethics constitutionally or within the field of psychology, because i know for certain i can only do one of those two if at all.
i don’t know. i’ve just been thinking about it. we’ll have to see where this all goes.
#nightmare.personal#sound the alarms mare is rambling about her life dreams again#see the lifestyle factor of being a professor is very appealing to me. yes busy with interacting with students researching etc BUT#i would get institutional funding for that research and get to work with students WHICH. is immensely appealing.#also if i am not able to do advocacy in a way that is really lasting for whatever reason#the next best thing is trying to help other people do that. i think.#i'm seventeen so i definitely have time to sort this out. and obviously all this banks on circumstances#but. i don't know. i'm really excited for my future
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i'm getting tired of realizing that xyz situation was traumatic.
#goddamn trauma onion over here.#keep peeling back different layers. finding more#it's annoyinggg ugh#i'm realizing recently i have a lot more trauma due to the horror of being autistic and not knowing it.#just. different horrific situations that i was in where i had no idea the people around me had negative feelings towards me only to have it-#-all come crashing down— from my perspective— for no reason at all.#anyways my high school gf's best friend's family banned me from their home because they all thought i was like.#a ticking time bomb about to kill them all or something. and i had no clue?? i thought like.#that we were all friends. i thought they liked me.#and that hurt obviously.#but what really hurts is that my gf continued to go there. like. she would have me drop her off still.#and i wasn't allowed to even get out of my car.#like. despite how they demonized me she still spent time with them. had me DRIVE HER to them.#it kinda fucked me up i'm realizing.#she cheated on me with him lol. go figure#they're still together! afaik#i don't harbor any negative feelings towards her we were seventeen y'know. stupid kids.#i don't think she could've realized how much that fucked with my head.#i hope they've both grown.#i do hold something of a grudge towards him still admittedly. he kind of bullied me in school.#and that's a whole other thing y'know. intentionally cruelty and all that.#bite.txt#—peter
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well yes but also no because "no beta we die like mne" was also a popular post around the same time and that's how the specific phrasing made it to ao3, but yes
do you know where "no beta we die like x" comes from and how it is used?
The term "beta" in this context is short for "beta reader" - a person who reads a fic while it's still in the editing stage and helps the writer get it ready to post. Some betas check grammar. Some check canon compliance. Some are sensitivity readers. There are lots of things that betas can do.
So functionally, saying "no beta" means that the writer didn't get this checked by a second person before they posted it. It's a warning that there might be errors or typos etc. It's mostly used when an author has written something quickly and is posting without doing a lot of (or any) edits first.
As for where it comes from? It all started with a bumper sticker.
This image was an internet meme at one point, and it got meme'd on in the form of "no ___ we ___ like men"
Here on tumblr, one of the versions that got really popular was from now-deleted user @grec1a who created this version:
From there, it migrated to AO3 as the "no beta we die like men" tag, and very often the word men is replaced by the name of a character who dies in canon.
#it's weird to me that people don't know this#but. i have over a decade on this hellsite under my belt#i'm following someone because i like their art and now i'm discovering that they just turned seventeen? the ages on this site. goddamn#reblog
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