#How very feanorian
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Hii! I just wanna say, your blog is life to me! Literally come here to scroll on tough days, and seeing all the character designs and funny comics makes everything better! Really love your art style and designs. I know this has been asked before but I'm wondering if I could use your art as profile pictures? I really appreciate the joy your art brings!
hihi hello!!! first off, thank you so much for your kind words! i'm sorry for how delayed this response has been (im just getting back into tumblr after one of many hiatuses... AGAIN!!!), but it warms my heart on my own tough days to hear you enjoy my designs and comics! it means a lot, so thank you again!! ❤️❤️
now onto your question about using my art as a pfp: that's absolutely fine! by the time i'm answering this it's likely a bit late already, but i hope this clears things up in the long run. im absolutely ok with anyone using my art as pfps/icons, just so long as you remember to credit me, don't claim as own, dont use for AI training, etc etc.... hope that clears things up, and sorry again for taking so long to see this!
#rin replies#ladyoflindon#silmarillion#ive accepted the maedhros bias i hv in my drawings but i never knew he literally outscores the rest of his bros by 100+ POSTS??#maglor excluded maybe. but even still ive definitely drawn mae more than him 😭#OH I FORGOT HIS AND CELEGORMS FRECKLES NOOOO#anyways sorry abt the tangent in the art hahaha i just thought itd be a funny bit#its very humbling to hear ppl express interest in using my art as a pfp 🙇♀️#it makes me feel so guilty for always disappearing every few months 😭😭😭 thank u to those who send such kind comments!!!#im horribly inconsistent with ask replies but pls know i appreciate every single one that gets sent in <3 no promises but i hope to get +#through some more over christmas!#we'll have to see how things go but again: thank you!!! ❤️#maedhros#silm#silm art#celegorm#caranthir#sons of feanor#feanorians
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#What bothers me the most about the quenya ban#excluding whatever made him think it would be effectual or even what effect he hoped it would have#Is that thingol thought he had the right to pass judgement on their actions and press laws upon their people.#Tell them where they can and cant live? Fine. Restrict their way of life? Really not#The ban was essentially decreed in a similar state of heat to Fëanáro’s oath#There’s very little information about how it reached the noldor#At least the feanorians sent letters demanding the silmaril before acting on assumption#Can I get that in 48pt or something#Anyway#thingol#quenya#silm memes#silmarillion#silm#the silmarillion#the silm fandom#the silm#tolkien#silm fandom#silm shitpost#jrr tolkien#tolkien legendarium#anti-thingol
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the Valar seem pretty content to primarily punish the ringleaders and let their followers go, so the Fëanorian followers probably get re-embodied well before their lords do
thus when Elrond shows up Formenos is not so much a lone fortress of exile as a bustling city where all the Fëanorians live, as most of them don't really want to swear loyalty to Finarfin and also don't tend to get along with the various other factions in Tirion
#finarfin is frankly just glad he can make them someone else's problem#namely elrond and celebrimbor#namo would LIKE to make them someone else's problem they keep petitioning him for feanor and his sons#and say what you will about the feanorians they're certainly persistent#any feanorion getting re-embodied would be met with an entire parade because the feanorians know how to put on a show#celebrimbor returning to life: i will quietly re-integrate into society#an army of feanorians: hi :)#here is your parade we have been waiting for thousands of years and got very bored#would you like to hear the song about your bravery and heroism#or the song about what we'll do to sauron for hurting you if we ever get our hands on him#celebrimbor: please no why
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I feel like this implies I do a lot of maedhros-posting but I really don't. I am not sure I've ever posted about Maedhros. I don't think about Maedhros. Sometimes I forget Maedhros exists. Handless ginger who? I blame this on pretty art and pretty art only
#elrond as my most used tag... yeah that tracks XD#but yeah i find this kind of funny how he's right up there in my most used tags but#i am not actually a maedhros girlie! i never was! there's just so mich ginger man art that i can't resist reblogging#i am not a feanorian hater either i am just really not attached to most of that family#and since i *am* attached to quite a lot of people they#you know#murdered or harmed in other ways#i am usually NOT on the feanorian side of tumblr and instead vibe elsewhere#so i dont really engage with any maedhros content#i dont mind him#hes just... there ig?#but theres SO MUCH NICE ART istg i never search for maedhros content and my blog STILL seems to be full of Maedhros#on another hand i am a very proud elrond poster so like i said that tracks#ema rambles
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🎶✨when u get this, list 5 songs u like to listen to, publish. then, send this ask to 10 of your favorite followers (positivity is cool)🎶✨
AIRIKA HI TY TYY DEAR this is the cutest thank youu and i hope ur well!! i adore yelling about tunes EEEK 🥀💌☺️
𝐁𝐋𝐎𝐎𝐃 𝐔𝐏𝐎𝐍 𝐓𝐇�� 𝐒𝐍𝐎𝐖 — hozier, bear mcreary.
𝐒𝐘𝐌𝐏𝐀𝐓𝐇𝐘 𝐈𝐒 𝐀 𝐊𝐍𝐈𝐅𝐄 — charli xcx.
𝐇𝐄𝐀𝐕𝐄𝐍 𝐎𝐑 𝐋𝐀𝐒 𝐕𝐄𝐆𝐀𝐒 — cocteau twins.
𝐀𝐋𝐋𝐈𝐄𝐒 𝐎𝐑 𝐄𝐍𝐄𝐌𝐈𝐄𝐒 — the crane wives.
𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐖𝐇𝐈𝐒𝐏𝐄𝐑 𝐍𝐄𝐓𝐖𝐎𝐑𝐊 — ramin djawadi.
#🦇: airika#carrionsflower#leg.asks#YOU SWEETEST SOUL YOUU ty tyy so much for the ask this was the cutest to do!! 🥀🥹#THE FIRSTT is soooo s/olas coded dragon game really YANKED me back in to thinking about it all the time 🥀🤡☺️#teehee 3 is for a new clown for x*men HEHE 🥀☺️#2 and 3 are also h*elaena hawke vibes too 🥀👁️#i mean i have yelled about the fourth for cy but *screams* ITS SOO VELAENE AND VELAENGWAYNE UGHH it makes me crazy kdjxhxh 🥀💀#i need to give her a formal introduction and her and her beloved (🥀🙄🥴) so soon !!!!!!#and lastly!! the fifth is the closest i think so far to what i think a theme song for irulanne would be?#raised a city elf until found by the sisters (a subset of the mourners!!)#she lost her network of fellow orphans and spies around but as she had magic she gained a new whisper network in the undead as her ‘birds’#its how i would say she learned of v*arric and feanorians interest in taking her on as the rook!!#she snuck out to the rendezvous sooo fast kxjxhxh#i mean they were preparing her to be the next arcane advisor/spymaster (she’s a two for one we love a multitalented girliee)#and maybe even to marry and or have a ‘legitimate’ heir with a monarch#or at least very close by to a/the throne yk? mourner mage with close ties to a throne was their goal 🥀💀😵💫#they were VERY into the idea of having a mage on a throne one way or another and so her leaving#is going to be SOO interesting for her to go back 🥀💀#i mean if they try to throw it in her face they gave her a life so many dreamed or something ->#they can take it up with her crow husband or something 🥀🥴☺️ good for her i think!!#but after things went sideways with the ritual i think she had begun to reconsider ditching the sisters oxjxjxh#that’s remedied when she meets luca though HEHE 🥀😌#prodigy orphan with gifted kid burnout meets scion of family prodigy with gifted kid burnout THEYRE SOO <3#ANYWAY LZJXJXH i missed yelling in the tags so i took the opportunity if yall read that im baking u cookies rn 🥀🤧🥹!!!!!#also this almost would be just c*harli bc the way her album has been on a loop for me 🥀☺️😌
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See one of my favorite Rivendell headcanons is that even though it's a wonderful, peaceful sanctuary, pretty much everyone there could be incredibly dangerous if they wanted to be. Like, let's think about who lives in that valley.
Elrond Peredhel, resident healer and eldritch crime against nature, self-explanatory
Glorfindel, slayer of balrogs, self-explanatory
Erestor, probably Feanorian, definitely dangerous
Old Feanorian diehards, all of whom are probably looking for an excuse to commit morally justified violence
Old Gondolindrim/Iathrim, who, despite what they might tell you, are exactly as dangerous as the Feanorians
Garthaglir the Library Orc, who absolutely remembers how to use the giant battleaxe he keeps behind his desk
A strange, shadowy figure roaming the valley who I'm *sure* isn't Maglor Feanorian, but who is nonetheless a terrifying singer
Elladan and Elrohir, who have spent the last several centuries becoming nightmare fuel for Sauron's forces
Arwen, eldritch, bites
Bilbo Baggins, not to be underestimated, can defeat a grown man with nothing more than his scathingly polite commentary
Dunedain visitors, vaguely feral, highly trained
Aragorn, very feral, highly trained
Lindir, not actually dangerous, but if you upset him you are going to have problems with everyone else on this list
I actually really like the idea that a lot of the people who live in Rivendell are inherently kind of dangerous, because it means that they're actively choosing peace and kindness for themselves and I love that.
#silmarillion#silm headcanons#rivendell#elrond#elrond peredhel#glorfindel#erestor#maglor#elladan#elrohir#arwen undomiel#bilbo baggins#aragorn#lindir#garthaglir#eldritch peredhel#rivendell headcanons my beloved#happy peaceful place full of incredibly scary people
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#silm#fëanorians#the sons of fëanor explored all over aman in their youth they're used to life on the road#and specifically noted as “abode seldom in one place for long”#makes sense they'd have little diffculty adopting to the Laiquendi lifestyle#I mean even during the siege they're less stationary than eg the Nolofinwëans#constantly visiting each other and organizing patrols out into lothlan and ard-galen#(Celegorm and Curufin are off visiting Caranthir when Aredhel reaches their territory as just one example)
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A meta I must write, and will.. one day, is about how in the Silmarillion is stated that the sons of Fëanor were “scattered” after the Nirnaeth and, at first glance, the thing makes remarkably little sense, particularly since they apparently manage not only to keep their own safe while scattered (after a retreat to Amon Ereb), but also to have an army co-ordinated and organised enough to march on Doriath during the winter and win that war in unfamiliar enemy territory and, likely, heavily outnumbered.
Still the thing starts making more sense if we consider the perspective from which the “writer” of the Silmarillion writes: the perspective of Gondolin, a society founded around the city as a hidden haven, which sees (with its own reasons) leaving it behind as impossible, with Doriathrim influences, thus yet another culture founded around the concept of a “hidden haven” the fall of which would mean death. Yet this is not true for the Fëanorians, or even the people of Fingon and Fingolfin who, living in territories so near an active border, would have to have developed a “fallback plan” to use should the worst come to pass.
My theory is that the Fëanorian and the non-Gondolidhrim Noldor to a lesser extent, had planned a possible “nomadization” well in advance and thus their scattering served the double purpose of making them less visible to Morgoth and preventing them from ending up in a non-defensible position. Which would also explain how Maedhros can try and offer allegiance later to Elwing as a bargaining chip, and have an army strong and organised enough to survive on his own and even win armed conflicts. Naturally becoming a nomadic people had its prices, particularly for the Noldor, still I think it was a smart move and a well planned one, particularly since Amrod and Amras already seem to lead a semi-nomadic people.
#yes!!!#all of the above!!!^^^#this is yet another evidence about what a great father feanor was!#because guess who also loved to roam the lands of aman in his youth? yes - feanor#we are told that feanor and his sons rarely stayed in the same place for long#which debunks the popular fanon that feanor never left the forge and barely spent time with his sons#he DID actually spent a lot of time with his sons and made sure to teach them how to live in the wilderness and lead a nomadic life#and STILL remain super tight and close with each other#he prepared his sons well for all kinds of dangerous and difficult situations because he knew very well that this fake bliss in aman#that the valar try so hard to uphold will not last long#aman is part of arda therefore death and grief and sorrow will find their way in this artificial island falsely named “blessed” realm#ask feanor about how blessed this place is#feanor#sons of feanor#feanorians#nomadic lifestyle#silmarillion#meta#silm meta
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i don't generally bother posting the stuff i knit exactly from existing patterns but i finally wove in the ends on a couple frankensteined socks and figured i might as well throw them up here? they're very dumb but i'm fond of them.
for the first pair i made up a colorwork pattern for the feanorian heraldic symbol, and slapped it together with the pisqu sock structure and toe pattern, and a snippet of a mitten for the sole halves. the yarn is 100g of jamieson's of shetland that i got on the high street of fort william, as a treat after walking 100 miles from glasgow to get there, and i had... maybe 10 yards total left over? i had to cut off the long tail from my cast-on and use it to graft the toe closed on the last sock; it was nerve-wracking. if i did this pattern again, i'd probably put the toe motif in between the two heraldic lozenges, but the first time through i wasn't sure how the math would work out so i frontloaded them. ah well!
the second pair is the structure of an existing sock i've forgotten the name of (worked in the round from the tip of the heel to a hat-like shape with six sides; two opposite ones are grafted together to form the instep and the other sets of two open into the cuff and close into the toe), with the colorwork pattern from the gogink sweater yoke. i thiiiink you could do this with basically any colorwork sweater yoke, but i've only tried it with this one. if i did it again i'd add some short rows to the front side of the cuff; the construction sort of pulls it down so that the heel side of the cuff is higher than the front, and a couple short row rounds would probably level it back out. i like these because they neatly smash the cuff-down/toe-up binary and make everybody mad, and i am at all times an imp of the perverse.
#ignore me standing in my windowsill it's the cleanest part of my room rn and the lighting was good#knitting#fiber art#knitblr#that's it that's enough tags if you see it you see it.#oh also if anyone wants charts/more detailed instructions for either of these let me know and i'll slap something together!#i also have a colorwork block for the nolofinwean heraldic symbol if anyone feels strongly about their allegiances#but you gotta say þerinde with the þ seven times out loud before i'll give it to you‚ because i am a horrible partisan bastard :D#aggressive linguistic prescriptivism#<- fiber arts tag for a reason!#subcreation
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I have seen that post about Maedhros being found in Moria by the Fellowship after being woken up by the longest unvoluntary nap ever. And yes, I know "Archaeology", anfic on a similar premise.
But today I wouldlike to linger on the comedic aspects of "the Fellowship expected a Balrog to come, but instead First Era Maedhros Feanorian appeared, albeit slightly charred, and now the Fellowship is adding a 10th member to the Fellowship".
For the sake of story I am still gonna say that Gandalf fell down the bridge, because ACTUALLY there was a Balrog.
Anyway the Fellowship minus Gandalf and plus Maedhros waltz in Lothlorien giving Galadriel a whole new range of emotions.
"I WAS EXPECTING GANDALF YOU ALL HAVE BROUGHT BACK A WAR CRIMINAL FROM AN ERA BYGONE AND ALSO MY COUSIN THRICE REMOVED."
Maedhros picking up IMMEDIATELY on the effect that the Ring is having on everyone and having a heart-to-heart with everyone and explaining the whole Silmarillion ordeal.
"Yikes." Everyone nods in agreement to the sentiment epressed by the Hobbits.
As an extra layer Mae asks if they are bound by any oath. "No, Elrond was quite insisting that we would NOT swear ANY oath."
Cue Mae crying.
Somehow Sam clicks immediately with Maedhros and when Frodo leaves the Fellowship Sam is already there all geared up for literal war and with all advice and tips on how to effectively kill orcs.
Somehow Merry and Pippin manage to make Mae smile. Their next mission is to make him laugh.
This reminds him of the Ambarussa. Mae cries again.
Gollum will underestimate that and it will be his doom.
"No Mr.Frodo, Sir Maedhros explained to us very clearly what happens with cursed artifacts, we are leaving Gollum here. Sir Maedhros was so kind, he explained to me everything I need to know."
Boromir lives, because killing Orcs turns out way easier with someone who can instill in them the very fear of the Valar.
Saruman has an incredibly short span.
"Oh? A palantir? My father's invention? Here? Yeah, I am gonna take that."
Somehow everything is a little easier?
Gimli crying because somehow he heard (ancient) Khuzdul from an Elf and now Maedhros has to understand since when Dwarves and Elves do not get along.
The company coming back to Imladris and causing Elrond to break down crying uncontrollably and in a very undignified manner.
"Lindir" hears the cries and when he sees Mae he's crying as well. It is revealed that "Lindir" is actually Maglor.
When the last ship sails for Valinor, the Valar grant M&M to come back due to repentance and various services in aid to destroying the Ring.
Galadriel is still not over the fact that MAEDHROS FEANORIAN was in Lothlorien and she could not even slap him.
At least in Valinor M&M can now hug mama Nerdanel and stay with her. Eventually all brothers will be reimbodied.
Thoughts? Comments? Prayers? Silmarils?
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A little something concerning a line of Tolkien’s—
"Earendil took Elwing to wife, and she bore him two children"
This says no more of Tolkien's view on marriage than the fates of the Feanorians say of his view on punishment - and certainly neither say aught of how he wants us to view them.
The silmarilion is explitly devoid of allegory. Its archaic style is deeper than wording and permeates the presentation of the story itself, most relevant to this discourse being the genre's effect on morality and punishment.
The simarillion places an emphasis on actions as morally absolute regardless of circumstance, and inaction as morally neutral, a position commonly taken most notably by the church (just look at the abortion controversy) and prevalent in literature of the kind Tolkien is mimicking.
This mindset should not pass into a modern evaluation of the situations concerned; the phrase "that doesn't make it right” is overused and usually one-sided. It was not right for Celegorm to attack Doriath, yet it also was not right for Thingol to refuse aiding the Union of Maedhros. The motivations, familial history, for each action is the same, and perhaps those fallen at Doriath would equal those who may have been saved had Thingol offered his forces. These characters should be judged as much for what they do as for what they don't do.
#The moral situation presented by the silmarillion is very interesting to me because of the different ways in which we can define ‘evil’#And how we best categorise it within the silmarillion#And I have way too much to say about it#but I will stop now#silmarillion#silm#the silmarillion#the silm fandom#the silm#silm fandom#tolkien#jrr tolkien#Tolkien legendarium#feanorian propoganda#tolkien lore#morality
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The Fëanorians were Doomed to begin with...
Even if the sons of feanor had been handed a silmaril freely at any point in Beleriand it would not have helped them. Hey. Are you listening. The silmarils were hallowed. Ever since the first kinslaying they would have rejected the feanorians. Luthien could have walked right up and dumped it on their heads and it would not have saved them. Earendil doing what he did walked a very thin tightrope to an outcome where Morgoth is defeated. But either way, whether or not they knew it, the silmarils were lost to the feanorians almost the entire time they sought them.
"If Dior did this, if Elwing did that," it doesn't matter!!! Not even taking their perspectives and situations and political landscapes into account at all, it didn't matter!!! The silmarils COULD NOT be held by the sons of feanor. They were on an impossible quest and did not know it... only at the end could they see their own mistakes, and then there is little to be done. Self destruction of one kind or another.... they are in the narrative. They cannot escape it.
#listen. am i hearing that dickens reference spoken in the voice of the muppets christmas carol? YES#but honestly i think namo would enjoy a muppets version of himself anyway so shhhh it's fine#the tragedy is the point#they doomed themselves the moment they drew swords on the teleri tbh#like say what you will about feanor's right to pursue the silmaril and his right to leave aman and everything else#the moment he went from ''give me your boats''/''no'' to ''then i'll stab you and take them over your dead bodies'' he crossed the rubicon#nothing gives you the right to murder someone else in order to take their stuff it doesn't matter how much you've been hurt#he was not in any active danger; he was just impatient and self-absorbed#and instead of either A: trying to talk the teleri around or B: looking for another solution he went straight to GIVE ME YOUR STUFF OR DIE#and yes certainly it was a very emotionally fraught situations! tempers were high! emotions were all the fuck over the place! BUT#you don't get to just start stabbing innocent people because you're upset and they made you angry dude#the second part of the host who came in after the blood started spilling and jumped to the wrong conclusion#and got stabby in order to help their friends whom they thought were under attack (rather than being the attackers) is more of a grey area#because they thought they were acting in DEFENSE but turns out they were aiding and abetting mass slaughter as a temper tantrum#but they didn't KNOW that they were jumping in on the side of ''give me your stuff or die'' so while they can indeed feel guilty as fuck#i don't think that they necessarily get painted with the ''we killed innocents on purpose > we have done evil and become evil'' brush#that the feanorians do...but ''give me your stuff because i want it or i'll kill you'' has absolutely zero moral leg to stand on#the feanorians were doomed to begin with#sons of feanor#silmarils#silmarillion#oath of feanor#lotr#lotr meta#alqualonde#kinslaying
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Elrond can get sick. As a little treat for me.
#elves don't get sick so gil galad would like to help but doesn't know how to#gil galad: yes i know i'm the king and am needed elsewhere but my herald is dying—#elrond: i'm not dying. i have a cold. i'll be better in a week#gil galad: and i need to comfort him and keep him from trying to work—#elrond: he tied me to the bed. i have loyal followers you know they won't stand for this#gil galad: don't sic the feanorians on me#(the feanorians are on gil-galad's side on this one. they feel very strange about siding with gil-galad over elrond.)
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Okay but consider; The Sons of Elrond reminding people of the Sons of Feanor.
Like, in Middle-Earth (ME) it wasn’t a big deal that E&E followed their dad around because it was just accepted as Harmless Peredhel Oddness.
But in Valinor, all these relatives keep visiting The House of Elrond because he’s the baby of every Finwion branch in existence. So these Finweans come around and just see Elrond’s sons somewhat hovering around him or staying in the general vicinity. Furthermore, Elrond isn’t just their dad, he’s also their lord-father and to Elrohir & Elladan, Elrond’s authority is above all else. Anyone, else.
Elrond casually tells his sons to do something simple and they do it without protest because it’s just getting a teapot or something, they may whine or groan like elflings for fun, but they get the teapot without question. That’s just how that relationship is. When the twins protest it’s loud and rare, and usually they just wanna follow their family members around (Arwen, Estel, Elrond, Celebrian).
But it’s just Elrond and Celebrian in Valinor, with Glorfindal, Lindir, and Erestor settling their own business elsewhere for a bit.
So these Finweans just see The Sons of Elrond (which they are canonically called) following their father around loyally, and mostly down to do anything for him (they swore an oath against all orcs for their mom, c’mon), and these Finweans start getting flashbacks to the Sons of Feanor in their youth.
The average Middle-Earth elf just sees the very close Peredhel Fam being a close family. The average Valinorean elf looks at the twins following Elrond around like ducklings and starts seeing ghosts.
It’s worse if Elrond is Feanorian, but even without that headcanon, it’s an uncanny likeness and it disturbs the Finweans that visit The House of Elrond.
(Celebrian, personally, thinks it’s funny).
#silmarillion#elladan#elrohir#elrond#house of elrond#peredhel fam#peredhel#valinor#sons of elrond#sons of fëanor#finweans#silm headcanons#tag.word
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A List of Very Convincing Reasons why Elrond Peredhel Cannot become Noldor High King after Gil-Galad, written by Dnorle Lehderep
He's like Finwe's great great great grandson; that's clearly too many generations away.
Also he's technically a Feanorian and they're like, super cursed and also dispossessed so maybe he shouldn't be in the line of succession.
No one can agree on whether his claim comes from the Nolofinwean or Feanorian lines. Clearly the best solution to this is for him to not be king.
Galadriel is right there.
He turns into a bird sometimes and everyone knows that birds can't be elf-kings that would be silly.
Yes, he does have one of the three rings "for elvish kings" but Cirdan also has one of those, and he's not an elvish king, so frankly it doesn't matter.
Gil-Galad's will, which states that Elrond inherits the crown, was clearly forged. I will not explain how. Trust me on this one.
C'mon guys he's not even technically an elf. Yes Melian was a queen over elves without being an elf. Yes Dior was a half-elf elf king. I don't see what that has to do with anything.
Do we really need a king?? Apparently some edain are experimenting with a new system called "democracy" and fraknly that sounds a lot better and cooler than having another king.
We'd have to get the crown resized again and that would be a lot of work.
He wears his hair partially down. In public. If that's not scandalous I don't konw what is.
I know his followers keep talking about how great of a leader he is, but they're mostly Feanorians, so clearly that doesn't count.
Galadriel. Is. Right. There.
He probably doesn't even speak Quenya. Don't ask anyone at court to confirm this.
He's very busy revolutionizing the field of medicine in Rivendell right now, please leave me him alone.
Clearly he doesn't wear enough jewelry to be a proper Noldor king.
#silmarillion#elrond#elrond peredhel#gil galad#please leave him alone#he just wants to be a little guy your honor
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not that it matters this late in the game but i want to put in a word for my beloved silmarien, and also say something in defense of pelendur, who was the main voice in gondor opposing arvedui's claim in favor of earnil ii, and in defense of earnur especially, who i think is getting a bit unfairly maligned here. (that silmarien should have been queen is the opinion that fire cannot melt out of me, i will die in it at the stake, etc, not least because it does away with the fíriel issue entirely by firmly establishing a legal precedent of strict gender-blind primogeniture from the earliest opportunity in númenor's newly minted line of succession.)
anyway, i'd stand behind fíriel's bid all the way if it were fíriel making the bid. canonically, though, it's a blatant power grab by arvedui and i won't fucking stand for it. like, go on, asshole, tell me you're descended from an unbroken line of 24 firstborn male children. not ONE older sister in the bunch. go on! didn't think so. as pelendur says, "in gondor this heritage is reckoned through the sons only; and we have not heard that the law is otherwise in arnor," implying that this has been an issue before, and arvedui is only showing an interest in the inheritance claims of daughters when it benefits him personally. if he were ACTUALLY concerned with the legal precedent of succession in númenor, he'd have hunted down whatever nth-cousin-m-times-removed was the firstborn child of the firstborn child all the way back to isildur and given them the crown, or at the very least he'd have argued for fíriel's queenship and maybe the high kingship for aranarth after them both. but he didn't, because it was a power grab; malbeth the seer can kiss my fucking ass. "my wife is the rightful heir of ondoher" sure, fine, sounds good "therefore i should be king in gondor" WRONG. INCORRECT. GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL, DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200. pelendur was absolutely right to tell his ass to fuck directly the hell off; i'd rather have no king than this shitheel motherfucker.
WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY BOY EARNUR. i'll admit to some degree of personal bias because i love boromir, "a man after the sort of king earnur of old," so i'm disposed to love earnur by association, but also he deserves better than this in his own right. he does bear some measure of responsibility for the succession crisis after his death, but i think the vast majority of blame for that really rests on the post-kinstrife atmosphere in gondor as a whole. to quote rotk appendix a:
now the descendants of the kings had become few. their numbers had been greatly diminished in the kin-strife; whereas since that time the kings had become jealous and watchful of those near akin. often those on whom suspicion fell had fled to umbar and there joined the rebels; while others had renounced their lineage and taken wives not of númenorean blood. so it was that no claimant to the crown could be found who was of pure blood, or whose claim all would allow; and all feared the memory of the kin-strife, knowing that if any such dissension arose again, then gondor would perish.
the whole reason there's a succession crisis after earnur dies is because there are no promising young relatives to name. because gondor, as a whole, has been marinating for generations in the firm conviction that those not of númenorean descent are lesser and will contaminate the bloodline and result in weak kings who die early. and on the other hand, castamir the usurper, long may he fucking rot, was true blue númenorean, and so the kings after him were left with the nagging worry that their relatives who had a better pedigree would do the whole revolt-and-murder-my-kids thing. so you have a bunch of xenophobic assholes who won't accept a king who's not sufficiently númenorean, and a lot of vaguely royal cousins frantically marrying into non-númenorean families to prove they're not a threat, all of which makes a problem greater than one king alone can possibly solve. i don't think it's a stretch to say that even if earnur had named someone who wasn't his own child as his heir, he'd have met with significant opposition in his lifetime, possibly to the point of another civil war. all of which to say: this isn't on earnur, or at least it's no more on him than it is on gondor's virulent númenorean superiority complex, and i personally am inclined to try to take a more understanding view of his choices.
Felt like a Tolkien poll:
#sorry. this was gonna be a tag essay and then i realized i wanted to break out the block quotes and i had to leave the tags behind#also! fun fact for anyone who read my very dumb and self-indulgent feanor-joins-the-fellowship fic: this is why aragorn brings up silmarien#when talking about the palantíri. elendil was directly descended from silmarien and her husband making his house technically the 'true'#heirs of elros and the númenorean line. so the subtext there is that aragorn can claim the seeing-stone through direct inheritance from#parent to child. which only supersedes feanor's creator claim if elros was actually willing to claim a feanorian as a parental figure#and aragorn (correctly) guessed that the appeal of infinite grandchildren would be sufficient to keep an actual fight from starting#i had NO idea how to explain that in the text without sounding horribly stilted so it became an easter egg for my fellow weirdos who are wa#more invested in the lines of succession in númenor arnor and gondor than we should be 😭#sinome maruvan ar hildinyar#wtsinb
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Something I noticed about the Feanorians…
A&A seem to take mostly after Nerdanel, specifically in the later drafts
Amrod clearly had very different ideas from Feanor at Losgar, wishing to leave & get back to his mother who initially pleaded with him to stay. Or if he wasn’t on the ships to go back, he at least seemed to expect the ships would be sent back to his uncle’s host.
Amras was brave enough to speak against Feanor after losing his brother, something the others did not do, & then minded his own business in ME instead of causing trouble besides his involvement in the Kinslayings, which may be inherited wisdom from Nerdanel as she also stayed out of conflict.
3C almost take exclusively after Feanor
Celegorm is Feanor with a greater fall from greatness
I think Celegorm started out as a better person than Feanor. Maybe it was due to lacking the trauma & grief that plagued Feanor since birth, but he seemed to have held no ill will towards even those his beloved father held in contempt. He was once someone who befriended so many of his half cousins with little reason to have an ulterior motive for doing it, and was a valued companion of Orome, being the most famous elven hunter in the Legendarium.
He doesn’t sound like someone rotten from the start, yet he became someone more infamous & hated than Feanor had ever been.
Caranthir is Feanor who changed for the better
The dark one, the angry harsh one, the loner. You’d think this would be the son of Feanor who turned out the worst & most hated right, rather than his fair & social brother who was once favored by a Vala?
Caranthir’s descriptions do not paint him pleasantly. He inherited a temper from Feanor & he was undoubtedly being a little cruel, like his father was capable of being, in that scene with Angrod. Yet unlike Feanor, he changed. He never became a perfect person, but he learned to keep his emotions in check & became a better person. He went from a haughty a-hole who fought with everyone he was displeased by to a guy who helped others, made alliances, & saved people.
Coming to Middle Earth improved him as much as it worsened Celegorm. Had it not been for the oath & kinslayings, I think he could have been fulfilled to his greatest potential as much as Finrod & Turgon were.
Curufin is Feanor without an identity
I have less to say on him than I do the other 2 Cs because we already know how Curufin is like Feanor. He’s Curufinwe, but he’s not Feanaro.
He has the face & body, but not the soul. The spirit of fire, an essential component to who Feanor is.
Feanor was revered as much as he was hated, Curufin is just hated. Feanor was everything Curufin is, yet Curufin is nothing close to what Feanor was.
M&M have both so much of Feanor & so much of Nerdanel in them at once, yet in different ways
Maglor's temperament is canonically his mother's. He has her gentleness & rationality. But though he is kind, he has a brutally unforgiving side to him, which likely comes from Feanor. He's an artist like both his parents, but like Feanor, he's a prodigy.
Maedhros's most famous feature, his hair, is Nerdanel's. His kindness, wisdom, & morality are his mother's.
Everything except for his father's craft, Maedhros's shares with Feanor. His fury, his pride, his fierce unshakable love, his loyalty, his bravery, his soul, are all his father's.
#feanorians#feanor#nerdanel#maedhros#maglor#celegorm#caranthir#curufin#amrod#amras#silmarillion#the silmarillion
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