#Hope Muir
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lady-harrowhark · 1 year ago
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love when people say the locked tomb books are confusing. correct. that's what we're here for. tamsyn muir dumped us in the middle of the story and said "cope." we're lucky if we even know who our main character is.
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historical-misfit · 6 months ago
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i'm sorry i had to-
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hareblog · 5 months ago
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They don’t have cigarettes on the sixth house but do you think they have weed?!? (original)
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nobeerreviews · 8 months ago
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The world is big, and I want to have a good look at it before it gets dark.
-- John Muir
(Luzern, Switzerland)
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dustykneed · 9 months ago
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WOMEN 😩
oh ABSOLUTELY.
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(based on this f!bones dedicated to @muirmarie in spirit :3333 🩵💙💛)
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twoheadedoddity · 30 days ago
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John Gaius and the Gospel of John
Ok. Here we go. I've spent the last little bit annotating my copies of tlt in detail, and I've been focusing a lot on the biblical references— especially John's confession chapters in NtN. I'm essentially cross-referencing the verses alluded to in the chapter titles with the actual content of the chapters, and recording some thoughts/observations. Not entirely groundbreaking, but I want to be thorough.
I'm building off of posts by @todd-queen here and here; go read these posts because they exploded my brain. The cipher. wow.
Please bear with me and if you read nothing else, read the entry for the final chapter.
Side note: I'm mostly using the New Revised Standard Version (the one I'm most familiar with) and sometimes the New International Version.
John 20:8
"Then the other disciple, who reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed." (NRSV)
This is the big one—as has been previously pointed out, the fact that Muir got this verse to fit as the first numbers of the cipher AND be so relevant melts my brain. Immediately, connotations of Harrow breaking into the tomb at 10 (the first person to ever so do), seeing Alecto, and wanting to live. She saw and believed.
This chapter consists of John setting up the context for the cryo project, the Earth dying, all that. The main link is how the verse fits with Harrow's story.
John 5:20
"The Father loves the Son and shows him all that he himself is doing; and he will show him greater works than these, so that you will be astonished." (NRSV)
John and his crew are trying to buy time amid the projects getting shut down. Their power gets shut down anyway, and miraculously, the bodies that John touches don't decay. This verse speaks to both the first pieces of John's powers and foreshadows the more drastic "miracles" that will come later.
John 15:23
"Whoever hates me hates my Father also." (NRSV)
The crew realizes the link between John, his eyes changing, and the intact corpses. They try to experiment to see if anything will bring about changes in the bodies. Nothing does. He names them Titania and Ulysses. He moves the corpses' hands from across the room for the first time. Not really much to link the content of the verse to the content of the chapter here if you ask me?
John 5:18
"For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." (NIV)
The crew wrestles with the implications of what John can do—in a way, the idea that John could be chosen in some capacity, or that John can now play at being God. This is also the chapter where they decide to stream on the internet; so, you could maybe say that the verse foreshadows the ways they'll be targeted due to John's actions.
John 8:1
"While Jesus went to the Mount of Olives." (NRSV)
The verse, in context, comes right before Jesus demonstrates to a group how none of them are without sin, and shows mercy/forgiveness to a woman that others were wanting punished.
As for Jod—his little necromancy twitch streamer gig starts to take off. People start coming to him for help or healing or miracles. His words, he's "playing Jesus." Obvious parallels to the sections (such as the above verse and those that follow it) where Jesus is teaching folks and performing miracles. Interestingly, Cristabel intervenes, telling John he's wearing himself too thin and that he's making the same mistakes as Jesus by never turning people down. So John sets a limit to one hour of miracles a day.
The cult really gets going. The authorities turn up. The choice is get taken down or do something drastic. John chooses something drastic—COW WALL. Cow wall scares everyone into leaving the cult alone for a bit. I think, in a lot of ways, this is the chapter that was foreshadowed by the previous chapter's verse, if we really want to draw parallels that far?
John 19:18
"There they crucified him, and with him two others, one on either side, with Jesus between them." (NRSV)
John mostly talks about the politics of the FTL program—more funding stuff, the way cryo was dropped, the inconcistencies with the program, the trillionaires rushing ahead with stuff. I'll be honest, I only vaguely grasp the corporate-funding-technology-science-and-capitalism side of John's story. But I don't think there's any link here.
John 5:1
"Some time later, Jesus went up to Jerusalem for one of the Jewish festivals." (NIV)
^ He goes up for a festival (the KJV uses the word feast, so I keep rotating that word in my brain too) and in the next verses encounters sick people in a pool. He heals one of them.
John faces no consequences for Cow Wall and other crimes. If nothing else, his influence grows. He and his crew have a barbeque and talk about their plans.
At the barbeque, big bright lights go off in my brain that point to the word feast in the KJV. This literally isn't anything. Like I don't think it's a very meaningful connection to make here. But my brain keeps going "I connected the dots!" I didn't connect shit "I connected them!!"
John gets approached by an important organization and he agrees to help them. So now he's remotely controlling the corpse of a big world leader to fool the world into thinking he's alive, in exchange for a lot of money and a city-destroying weapon. Great. Comparison between Jesus' miracles of healing and John's necromantic reanimation "miracles."
"Could you give him a permanent pulse? Could you make it so he bleeds if he gets hurt? Could you fix any current degradation to his corpse? Could he talk, if we wanted him to?" (NtN 271-272). This is a quote that @/todd-queen pulled from the text, and it fits really well.
John 3:20
"For all that do evil hate the light and do not come to the light, so that their deeds may not be exposed." (NRSV)
More FTL stuff. The nomination for that. John finds out that the plans that were progressing for FTL and the evacuations were dubious at best—just trying to make it look like progress. John is furious, and decides to lean into the necromancer-cult-leader-twitch-streamer act even more, gaining even more sway.
I think something could be said for the verse—being all about evildoers hiding and preventing their deeds from being exposed—can be linked to the trillionaires lying and covering up the ways they are interfering with the FTL project/evacuation plans. And how John tries to expose them. I'd be able to give a more concrete argument if I understood the FTL plotline better but for some reason I struggle so bad with it.
@/todd-queen also links it with this quote, about how John and his crew hide the nuke, intending to never let it see the light of day. Which is also a good connection imo. "We kept laughing that it came with a manual. I think we were scared of what would happen if we stopped laughing. We pulled up the floor and put a safe beneath the lino and swore we were never going to use it." (NtN 279).
John 9:22
"His parents said this because they were afraid of the Jewish leaders, who already had decided that anyone who acknowledged that Jesus was the Messiah would be put out of the synagogue." (NIV)
John grows in power. People come to join. It becomes an international sort of crisis. The first violent exchange occurs, and John uses the energy burst from the deaths to commit atrocities. One could link the verse to the various authorities coming after John and arresting anyone trying to join his cult. John certainly would. I hate him so much.
John 1:20
"He confessed and did not deny it, but confessed, 'I am not the Messiah.'" (NRSV)
The chapter where everything goes to shit. FTL accelerating their escape attempt to mere days and then hours away. The attempted coup with G1deon and the nuke. John's crew is convinced this is the end; Cassiopeia and Nigella getting married. John reveals that he also has the corpse puppet ready to start a nuclear armageddon, as a backup threat to prevent FTL. Everything goes to shit at the cult compound. Cristabel shoots herself to make John figure out how to work with the soul. Everyone kills everyone else and John starts the apocalypse. Becomes God using the collective souls of the population and that of the earth. Obtains perfect lyctorhood with the earth, creating Alecto. The order of events for the actual nuclear apocalypse are unclear, because John is self-contradicting and a liar.
The actual contents of the chapter are... a lot. All over the place. But it's the most raw and visceral part of John's confession, which kind of fits nicely with this particular verse—given that it's from the section about John's (the Baptist, like, from-the-bible John) confession.
While I haven't covered the alternate ARC chapter numbers, I need to point out that this chapter is John 1:9 in the ARC. "The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world." (NIV). Seems pretty fitting for the chapter where he becomes God and begins the process that will become the resurrection, right?
John 5:4
This verse doesn't exist in the NSRV and many other versions, because in recent translations scholars think this verse wasn't part of the original. It is:
"From time to time an angel of the Lord would come down and stir up the waters. The first one into the pool after each such disturbance would be cured of whatever disease they had." (NIV)
The first connection, of course, is John picking and choosing who to bring back. Healing, resurrection. Yeah.
In this chapter John answers some of Harrow's questions. It's hard to tell which bits he lies about, exactly, but Harrow knows that he's full of shit. She decides to find the truth, and find God—probably not John in the end because he's a horrid lying sham—and walks into the River.
Right. Ok. Now back to this verse not being accepted as part of the bible anymore. On one hand, many of the Christian sources explaining its removal talk about how older, more accurate manuscripts do not contain this verse, so it's more accurate for more recent translations to remove it. Interesting. A chapter where Jod is clearly falsifying information being named after a verse that is supposedly not genuine. Tamsyn Muir your game is incredible.
Please direct your attention to this reddit post. The verse could also have been removed to focus attention on Jesus' healing power rather than having an angel also be doing the same thing. The post puts it better than I can, go read it, but essentially: John is trying to focus the attention on himself—the idea that he's the source of the world's power.
Choosing John 5:4 for this final chapter of John's confessional was very, very deliberate. I would like to shake Tamsyn Muir's hand and also ask her oh so many questions.
Final thoughts: I definitely that the main purpose for the choices behind most of the verses were primarily to fit with the cipher. But, where possible, Muir would have wanted them to fit somewhat with the contents of the chapter.
However, where things were very, very deliberate, were the first and last of these chapters—20:8 and 5:4. There is no doubt in my mind that these verses were handpicked for how incredibly relevant they are.
A lot of what I've pointed out has been pointed out by other people as I've mentioned throughout this post. I'm glad to be bringing it all together and freaking out over it, even though I doubt I'm the first to do so.
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lesbianamalvada · 2 months ago
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No way the saint of duty's name is "ortus" lmaoo. I'm calling it now that beef boy's name is GIDEON and Harrow's mind is just blocking it out for some reason. And I bet it was him that paper in the first book was talking about.
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someabsolutenonsense · 1 year ago
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Worked on this too long and now I might hate it but here we are
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camgoloud · 2 years ago
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i’m pretty sure this was done on the tlt subreddit once before but i haven’t seen it here and i’m curious to know tumblr’s opinions on the topic! personally i like the second two much more than the first—gtn didn’t really grab me that much and i wouldn’t have even called myself part of the fandom until i decided i might as well give htn a go and immediately got sucked in—but i’m guessing that most people’s experience is different, since the first book seems like the most popular based on the impressions i’ve gotten. also feel free to put in tags where you’d rank the short stories (as yet unsent and doctor sex) relative to the books! i would have stuck those in the poll too but there are. 120 different ways to order 5 unique objects
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eddie-redcliffe · 2 years ago
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syl-stormblessed · 1 year ago
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every day i wake up and there’s no alecto the ninth news
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hollywoodlady · 8 months ago
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Hope Lange for 'The Ghost and Mrs Muir' (1968 - 1970).
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hareblog · 5 months ago
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@crandairy-juice ‘s modern AU Harrow in my style 💌
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barracuda-shark-games · 4 months ago
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Does the noblewoman have a little dog that gets scared very easily?
Yes and she wants more cheese and macaroni RIGHT NOW!!!!
Haha I often don't think about how her name is Muriel because her nickname and preferred name amongst friends is Muir, so that's how I refer to her in my head. Gonna update that on the RO page because it's what I use for her tag. :')
(Also ngl it took me a minute to get the reference and the first thought in my head was a trembling crusty white dog in a handbag, which is also so funny to picture if you know what Muir's secret lifestyle entails.)
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mommyashtoreth · 1 year ago
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Getting over myself and posting this even though the shame of liking things overwhelms me. These being on the same page of Harrow the Ninth (and being what Harrow vs Abigail read off the same letter) is extremely extremely goodomenscore
[ID: Two photos of the book Harrow the Ninth. The first is printed in a handwriting font and reads "In Heaven I will remember your mouth, and when you roast down in Hell I think you will remember mine." The second is in a normal font and reads "'I still get an erotic charge from snakes, sorry to say,' she read." End ID]
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kvothbloodless · 1 year ago
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Huh, just now realizing that Unwanted Guest is like. An actual play. With stage directions and shit. Like. Someone could actually produce this play.
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