#Hoffman process

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[ravioligobbler9000]

YOU'RE KIDDING THAT I JUST MET COSTAS FUCKING MANDYLOR WHILE I WAS OUT DINING IN A RANDOM PLACE. THE GUY FUCKING TOLD ME HE HAS BEEN LIVING IN THE SAME ISLAND AS ME FOR THREE FUCKING YEARS.

THE MAN GAVE ME LIKE FOUR FUCKING HUGS AND TOLD ME WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN IN SAW 11 AND THAT MARK DIDN'T ACTUALLY DIE AFTER SAW 3D

THEN HE TOLD ME TO WAVE AT HIS WIFE AND KID, AND THEN HE SHOOK HANDS WITH MY DAD AND INVITED HIM FOR A DRINK AND SAID HE DID A GOOD JOB RAISING ME.

THEN HE GAVE ME ANOTHER HUG AND WENT ON HIS MERRY WAY

COSTAS MANDYLOR YOU FUCKING MADMAN I LOVE YOU SO MUCH

EDIT: Mark being alive has nothing to do with saw 11, he made it very clear that saw 11 will just be a prequel, also he didn't say the actual plot of the next movie, he just told me Mark would be appearing more than in X, i misspoke up there cause i was in the heat of the moment.

Don't wanna get sir Costas in any trouble cause he was the sweetest guy ever.

[saw-tistic]

saw vi is like edging for ppl with competence kinks because hoffman will pull off some of the hottest, most mouth-watering and brutal quick thinking i've ever seen in my life and then, just to shake it up, just to keep me humble, he'll make some utterly incomprehensible decision like using strahm's fingerprints to cover his tracks again, despite the fact it clearly didn't work the first time. and he does it in a room he was gonna set fire to anyway. the money i would pay for a single glimpse into his mind

[mandycore420]

Saw V (2008), Saw VI (2009), International Small Arms Traffic Blues (The Mountain Goats)

[inkblotdemon]

uh oh! 💘

[latenightsundayblues]

Moving Out, 06/25/1982

Hand in glove I stake my claim

I'll fight to the last breath

If they dare touch a hair on your head

I'll fight to the last breath

For the good life is out there somewhere

So stay on my arm, you little charmer

But I know my luck too well

Yes, I know my luck too well

And I'll probably never see you again

[bloodshotgun]

what do you mean. he's right there

[pics-pizza-peace]

Detective Mark Hoffman (Saw III, IV, V, VI, 3D, X) Pony Cosplay

[specialneedz]

mark "the slut" hoffman

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[caesarsaladinn]

I have passed organic chemistry II. not well, not with any glory, but I have passed the class and that's fucking good enough

[motherdanger]

don't ask me why im listening to "cartoon heroes" by aqua on repeat while drawing mark hoffman i have no reasonable explanation

[luxrayz64]

like we were so fucking robbed of seeing perez in the wake of saw vs events I want to see her getting out of the hospital and flipping tables and pointing a gun in ericksons face after being told that strahm is the lead suspect. I want to see her having a breakdown after strahms fingerprints come back dead. I want to see her hand twitching over her gun everytime she sees hoffman. I want to see her fucking losing it and desperate to avenge her friend and partner and to clear his name. I want to see the thought process that lead to her inviting known serial killer mark hoffman to the basement lab just so she could torture him psychologically before she had a legitimate excuse to shoot him. I want to see more of her and I want to see how strahms death impacted her the way the reverse impacted him.

[good-wine-and-cheese]

Quick sketch because this concept has been plaguing my brain. Just the idea that after Gesicht's death, Hoffman isn't really given the proper time to grieve before he's already getting commissioned for another police robot to replace him.

It makes me wonder if Hoffman would take a leave of absence himself to process what it means to bring a robot life into the world, become that robot's friend, and then slowly be awakened to the fact that this robot will be used by the system he exists in, possibly die for it, and that Hoffman himself is replaceable if he steps out of line.

[jennilah]

a very dumb deep dive

gather round, i saw a few people say they want to crawl into the head of someone who had trouble telling Hoffman and Strahm apart upon first viewing. I offer mine for the picking because i think ive identified, at least in MY personal experience, the various elements that came together that formed the ultimate confusion

if this is not relatable nor informative, i hope it is at least a little silly. this is all in good fun and obviously the difference between them is clear as day to me now

this will be longer than it should be.

PRECURSOR POINT NUMBER ONE...

I do not remember character names. Not until they are recurring, or I've rewatched a film a few times. Sometimes it will take me an entire 12-21 episode season length for me to know characters by name in a show. I've seen some Saw films more than 6 times now and I still don't know everyone in the traps 🤷‍♀️

PRECURSOR POINT NUMBER TWO..

at the time of watching Saw IV for the first time, the madness has not yet set in for Hoffman and Strahm for me. In fact, I didn't like either of them. I wasn't looking at them with my deranged eyes yet.

Without my crazy brain activated, sometimes I'll get face blindness between people who have similar enough hair and stuff. I'll use clothes as an identifier if I can

Meaning, I didn't notice anything like face details, mannerisms, body shapes- to me, it was one dark haired white guy in a suit and another dark haired white guy in a suit who both worked in law enforcement.

uh oh

PRECURSOR POINT NUMBER THREE..

in a very elaborate plot like this with many interwoven stories being told, especially with police procedure, has a lot of details that get lost on me upon first watch because I simply easily misunderstand what is happening. I zone out on stuff like legal talk because I don't know that world at all, and the more general plot information to absorb, the more I forget.

"But [character] SAYS..!" oh, I'm aware! If you pay attention and can remember character names, everything is pretty clear in this movie!

so between all three points, you see where I'm starting to go with this.

THAT BRINGS US TO..

Saw IV. let me describe to you what I believe my thought process was to the best of my memory.

This guy shows up. as far as I knew, this was the first time I've met this character. I forgot he was in Saw III because he was only in it for a second and I definitely don't remember him among the sea of other characters.

ok. sure. new detective because the others are dead. got it 👌

next time we see him is a few minutes later, now in this lighting. I don't have his features memorized yet. I'm pretty sure I put it together that it was the same guy as before, and I see he's in a new outfit.

keep in mind he is not at all referred to with a NAME yet, until Perez shows up and introduces all three of them at the same time

here comes "Strahm," as he was quickly introduced in practically the same breath, from the FBI. and he looks like this.

I mentally go "ok FBI guy in the suit" because my occasional bout of face blindness is activating rn. The problems are on the horizon for me

I survived that scene, but the scene right after? I'm doomed.

Major Confusion #1:

this treacherous interrogation footage, ft Hoffman's ass and slutty, slutty suspenders (but I did NOT give him even a second glance here yet. genuinely.)

I'm 100% sure I just didn't know who I was looking at in this footage at all just because of the outfit change

and then the boys are back in town. and they're BOTH WEARING THIS...

This was mean. this was fucked. I was doomed. My brain is already churning trying to keep up with what the footage was, now there's two dark haired white men in dark suits. Who was who again? I think the guy who just turned off the TV was the new detective. The guy who was talking to the Swat guy before. Yeah....

Major Confusion #2:

Next time we see them, Strahm and Perez are watching the interrogation footage. They quickly start talking Jigsaw stuff and my mind is already working overtime figuring out what information is and isn't important to hold on to.

Hoffman says hello for like 1 minute and then fucks off.

My brain is going "ok.. that footage was an old interrogation... mhm..."

this is the information my brain has decided to retain from that scene for later.

Major Confusion #3

this dark haired white guy in a suit got kidnapped idfk. the shots are all very short and he's enshrouded in shadow or SUPER close-up, and I don't know to recognize him by his lips yet. clearly Im more focused on his hair color and suit, so this could be fuckin anyone

Perez said something about officers being in danger earlier, I think I thought maybe it was irony and the cocky FBI guy was the one who got kidnapped instead? i dont know.

then after the first test of Rigg's game, you see Perez and Strahm again for a SECOND. I def didn't pay them much attention. My mind is elsewhere- the insanity of the previous scene

Major Confusion #4:

then FINALLY... we see Hoffman again in the slut chair

and what have we learned about me so far?

let me sum up my logic for you

Now, if only I was certain on their names..

I'm not going to go over every single scene, but I guarantee you, the confusion was fully set in by this point. That detective from the beginning either really just went home, or he was working with Perez. Or maybe it's the FBI guy and someone else is in the chair? No idea.

My brain retained that one slightly misguided bit of information from the interrogation footage and thought This Guy, Whoever This Guy Is, was interrogating Jill a second time. (Wrong.)

there was no memory of the guy's big ass in that footage or anything. that was also way the fuck in the intro and there was a LOT more that happened between then and now in the movie to remember now. and people really don't say each other's names that often.

Yeah there's also that flashback footage showing The Guy In the Chair and Rigg back in the day, but I was too far gone. That was simply the story of how That Guy and Art Blanc knew each other.

and boy does Chair Guy not do much for the rest of the movie, so there was not much more info about his identity that I could try to work out. Maybe he was just some new random guy meant to die in someone else's game because he is kind of a dirty cop?

Pretty sure I was resigned to the fact that I was watching completely utterly confused by the third act.

then fucking JEFF DENLON shows up and i remember either mentally or physically throwing my hands up like "ok now i REALLY dont know whats going on"

I remember I was still excited by the thrill of it, just completely lost as to who was who and what the fuck was going on.

as Eric Matthews was yelling "WHO'S COMING THROUGH THAT DOOR?" i remember going "I DONT KNOW, MAN!!!!!!"

The Grand Clear-up:

THE REVEAL.

Through the power of the Hello Zepp reveal montage, I finally understood "OHHHH YOU'RE THE DETECTIVE FROM THE BEGINNING!!!"

i had other confusions that i eventually worked out, but I went into Saw V much more clear on who was who. There was Hoffman the evil detective, and Strahm the jerk FBI guy (who I then softened up to throughout V, no longer thinking he was a jerk)

and, if I couldn't physically tell who was on screen because I still struggled a little bit with that... I looked for Strahm's bandage :)

and thats my story lmao...

anyway finding out just how many other people mixed them up or confused them or couldn't tell them apart makes me feel so validated thank u. i understand u

[illusory-scripted]

saw iv observation: mark hoffman is obsessed with control. he wants to feel like god. he wants to pull every string. he wants to always be omniscient, three steps ahead of everyone. he's thrown off by the evidence he leaves behind, like the skin abrasions from the harvesting of the jigsaw piece and the fingerprints (the chemicals on peter strahms fingertips that told the coroner's they were a dead guys fingerprints) and he falls apart because of that one oversight. he gives up control in the coffin trap. he puts his life in peter strahms hands- all strahm had to do was get in the coffin, and in the process, kill hoffman. strahm couldn't hand the control over to hoffman, and that's why he died. mark is obsessed with controlling every variable, and thats why he's so shocked that lawrence is alive and kramer's true apprentice- he was outside of hoffmans radius, he couldnt break gordon like he broke down jill. he was shocked that gordon was successful, and not only that, incredibly calculating, he was clever, and he was more in control than mark ever could have been

[bloodshotgun]

have you noticed that before saw VI we only see hoffman killing others indirectly, as in via traps? he kidnaps people and puts them into rube goldberg machines and leaves them to die, but he doesn't actually kill them on screen with his own hands. in saw IV he plays the role of damsel in distress, in saw V he's a seductress baiting and luring strahm into his house. his violence is feminine in a way, even losing a fight and being thrown into a coffin could be seen as him tricking a stronger, more directly violent man into doing what he wants from him. he's a liar and a backstabber, but he's only a murderer in so far as a woman poisoning her husband's dinner is—strictly speaking, eating the poisoned food was her husband's choice, and it's not her fault he chose wrong.

and yet during the saw VI ending hoffman is forced to kill people directly: stabbing perez to death, slitting erickson's throat and burning him alive. he was cornered and it was the only way out, so he lashed out and killed people personally, directly—and was immediately punished for it, meant to lose his life but losing his "formerly handsome" face and his anonymity in the process. he can't seduce, can't play the role of an innocent and well-meaning person anymore, so he starts threatening and killing others outright, all the while wielding a slasher-favorite, perfectly suited for penetration knife. how very masculine of him