#Henry III

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FILTH TEACHES FILTH.

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The Battle of Taillebourg, 21 July 1242 by Eugène Delacroix

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Medieval Grave Slabs Recovered From Historic Shipwreck

Maritime archaeologists from Bournemouth University have recovered two medieval graves slabs which have been lying at the bottom of Studland Bay for nearly 800 years.

The slabs, carved from Purbeck marble, were amongst the cargo of England’s oldest historic shipwreck, which sank off the Dorset coast during the reign of Henry III in the thirteenth century.

The site has been named the “Mortar Wreck” because other items in its cargo included a large number of grinding mortars, also made from Purbeck stone. Details of the discovery will shortly be published in the journal Antiquity.

Divers and archaeologists led by BU brought the slabs to the surface on 4 June in a two hour operation from a depth of around seven metres where the stones lay.

One immaculately preserved slab measures one and a half metres and weighs an estimated 70 kilogrammes. The other, much larger slab is in two pieces, with a combined length of two metres and a weight of around 200 kilogrammes.

Both have carvings of Christian crosses which were popular in the thirteenth century and the research team believe they were intended to be coffin lids or crypt monuments for high status individuals in the clergy.

“The wreck went down in the height of the Purbeck stone industry and the grave slabs we have here were a very popular monument for bishops and archbishops across all the cathedrals and monasteries in England at the time,” explained Tom Cousins, a Maritime Archaeologist at Bournemouth University who led the recovery. “Examples have been found in Westminster Abbey, Canterbury Cathedral and Salisbury Cathedral, he added.”

The slabs will now be desalinated and conserved by the Bournemouth team until they can be put on public display along with the other recovered artefacts in the new Shipwreck Gallery when Poole Museum reopens next year.

The site of the Mortar Wreck was first discovered as an ‘obstruction’ in 1982 but was assumed to be a pile of rubble on the seabed. Its significance was not realised until 2019 when Tom and a team from the University dived the site on the suggestion of local charter skipper Trevor Small and uncovered the secrets lying under the sand.

The continued recovery of the artefacts, such as the mortars and grave slabs, will allow the Bournemouth team to learn more about thirteenth century life and the ancient craft of stonemasonry.

“Although Purbeck marble was quarried near Corfe Castle there has always been a debate about how much work was done here and how much was done in London. Now we know they were definitely carving them here, but they hadn’t been polished into the usual shiny finish at the time they sank so there is still more we can learn,” Tom said.

The team will continue to explore and protect the wreck over the coming years which they hope will include an operation to record the timber frames of the ships hull which are still well preserved in the sand. Tom is also planning to use this as a training opportunity for his students at the university.

“The future aim of the project is to train the next generation so that they get the same opportunities I had. We’ve already started teaching our second-year students to dive and as they get into the third year we’re going to take them out to sea and teach them their first steps to becoming maritime archaeologists,” he said.

[pechenlaf]

When your fuckass alive human walks into a room and you need to pretend that you were not trying to send each other to superhell five seconds ago

I remember mentioning my "girls can see ghosts of historical figures" setting here awhile ago, so why not post something related to it again— (if someone is interested, i can drop some kind of lore here 👀👀 )

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♕ — The Four Queens

"In fact, this elite gathering represented the triumph of international diplomacy. <…> The architects of this diplomatic coup were neither ambassadors nor statesmen. No king’s counselor had a hand in it, no great knight nor influential baron. It was managed entirely by one family –a family of four sisters who had risen from near obscurity to become the most celebrated and powerful women of their time. Almost nothing of significance that occurred in Western Europe during the period in which they lived was not influenced by the actions of this family. It is impossible to fully understands the underlying political motivations of the thirteenth century without them."

— Nancy Goldstone, Four Queens: The Provencal Sisters Who Ruled Europe

[tiny-librarian]

Royal birthdays for today, September 19th:

Antoninus Pius, Roman Emperor, 86

Leo VI the Wise, Byzantine emperor, 866

Albert IV, Duke of Austria, 1377

Marie of Cleves, Duchess of Orléans, 1426

Henry III, King of France 1551

Albrecht Johann Joseph, Archduke of Austria, 1773

Maria Teresa of Savoy, Duchess of Parma and Lucca, 1803

Maria Anna of Savoy, Empress of Austria, 1803

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Henry VIII's First Interview with Anne Boleyn

Artist: Daniel Maclise (Irish, 1806–1870)

Date: 1835

Medium: Oil on Canvas

Collection: Private Collection

DESCRIPTION

Daniel Maclise turned to historical subjects in the early 1830s. The present subject, which was shown at the British Institution in 1836, shows the first meeting of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn, which occurred in about 1527 and which led to their marriage in 1533 following the annulment of the king's first marriage to Catherine of Aragon. In 1536 Anne was tried on dubious charges of adultery and beheaded in the Tower of London. Maclise's painting shows Henry standing on a low dais and with Anne demurely standing at his side. Members of the court occupy the surrounding space, and seem to be aware of the likely repercussions of the evident attraction that he feels for her. In the shadows to the left is seen the figure of a cardinal of the Catholic Church, who raises his hand to his mouth in a gesture that expresses his concern that a known supporter of the Protestant cause should have gained the particular favour of the king. As queen, Anne did her utmost to promote Reformation doctrines. The interior is intended to represent Hampton Court, the splendid palace that Henry took over after Cardinal Wolsey had been discredited and forced from office.

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William, The Conqueror to Catherine, The Princess of Wales ⤜ The Princess of Wales is William I's 27th Great-Granddaughter  via her paternal grandfather’s line.

William the Conqueror (m. Matilda of Flanders)

Henry I, King of England (m. Matilda of Scotland)

Empress Matilda (m. Geoffrey V, Count of Anjou)

Henry II, King of England (m. Eleanor of Aquitaine)

John I, King of England (m. Isabella of Angoulême)

Henry III, King of England (m. Eleanor of Provence)

Edmund, Earl of Lancaster (m. Blanche of Artois)

Henry, 3rd Earl of Leicester and Lancaster (m. Matilda de Chaworth)

Mary of Lancaster, Baroness Percy (m. Henry de Percy, 3rd Lord Percy) - Coat of Arms

Sir Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland (m. Margaret de Neville)

Sir Henry ‘Hotspur’ Percy (m. Elizabeth Mortimer)

Sir Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland (m. Lady Eleanor Neville) - Coat of Arms

Sir Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland (m. Eleanor, Baroness Poynings) - Coat of Arms

Lady Margaret Percy (m. Sir William Gascoigne)

Agnes Gascoigne (m. Sir Thomas Fairfax) - Gawthorpe Hall, family seat.

William Fairfax (m. Anne Baker) - Gilling Castle, family seat. 

John Fairfax (m. Mary Birch) Master of the Great Hospital at Norwich, Norfolk

Rev. Benjamin Fairfax (m. Sarah Galliard), Preacher at Rumburgh, Suffolk.

Benjamin Fairfax (m. Bridget Stringer) died in Halesworth, Suffolk.

Sarah Fairfax (m. Rev. John Meadows) died in Ousedon, Suffolk.

Philip Meadows (m. Margaret Hall)

Sarah Meadows (m. Dr. David Martineau)

Thomas Martineau (m. Elizabeth Rankin) buried at Rosary Cemetery, Norwich.

Elizabeth Martineau (m. Dr. Thomas Michael Greenhow) died in Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland.

Frances Elizabeth Greenhow (m. Francis Lupton)

Francis Martineau Lupton (m. Harriet Albina Davis)

Olive Christina Lupton (m. Richard Noel Middleton)

Peter Francis Middleton (m. Valerie Glassborow)

Michael Francis Middleton (m. Carole Elizabeth Goldsmith)

The Princess of Wales m. The Prince of Wales

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Liste de lecture sur les Plantagenêts.

Chose promise, chose due. Vous trouverez l'ensemble des docs historiques en français et en anglais portant sur la dynastie des Plantagenêts.

Pour information, des listes de romans en français, en anglais et des docs qui se concentrent sur les rois et les reines Plantagenêts devraient venir fin mai.

La liste est exhaustive.

Français :

Anglais :

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I'm Henry III at the time of my coronation. What can I do to ensure the English monarchy remains as strong as its counterparts on the continent relative to the nobility?

In general, I would say "learn how to delegate better," and "develop structures of legitimization."

Henry's main problem was that he was a habitual micromanager, but didn't have the chops for governance or warfare that his grandfather had. This was a really bad combination for someone who came to power in the middle of the First Baron's War.

During his minority, Henry's ministers like William Marshal and Herbert de Burgh managed to win the First Baron's War and push the French out of England. Then Henry reached his majority. In 1228, the Normans, Angevins, and the Duke of Brittany offered to support Henry against the 12-year-old Louis IX of France - but Henry squandered the opportunity with an ineffectual campaign that accomplished nothing. Then Henry pissed off the rest of the barons again by promoting the Poitevin faction at court.

After that, Henry spent the rest of his reign ruling without ministers - and he was bad at it, especially when it came to enforcing royal charters, distributing patronage widely, and evenly applying royal justice. This - along with Henry's complete defeat in the Saintonge War and his incredibly expensive campaign to win his son Edmund the throne of Sicily - alienated Simon de Montfort and the Savoyard and English barons, leading to his overthrow in 1259, and the Second Baron's War in 1263.

Things didn't really turn around until Edward grew old enough to take the reins of power - because Edward actually did have the military and political skills his father lacked.

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The promised sequel to my previous post:

If anyone wants to help me come up with drag names for these characters, please feel free!

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considering John's experiences and the fact that he eventually rebelled against his father along with his siblings, what was his relationship like with his kids?

I've always wondered this after learning that Henry III regarded his father's grave with affection...

well unfortunately john died when the majority of his children were pretty young, so we don’t really have much to compare him to his father with.

we can compare that to john’s own experiences with his father, as john was the youngest of henry’s children, and considerably younger than his brothers. he would have been too young to have substantially been involved in the family drama unfolding around him, and he was considerably removed from his family by way of proximity, regardless. in spite of that, john was probably henry’s favourite son… which some historians have speculated arose from his youth making him more malleable, and less of a threat in ways his older, landed brothers were. i think much of henry ii’s problems with his children stemmed from the impossible challenge of managing a successful succession plan (including arranging marriages) within a feudal system that couldn’t accommodate his empire (the irony and the tragedy is that john’s birth is what, in certain respects, created the challenge: “providing for his youngest son proved to be a constant headache for henry” (church)). indeed, like you say, john would ultimately go the same way as his brothers and would ultimately revolt against his father.

the issue of inheritance was not really a factor for john with his children. by contrast, his relationship with his children seems more stable. according to danna messer: “john is known for having been a loving father”. he certainly seems to have been close with his bastard daughter joan/siwan — who was possibly his eldest child: “it would have been somewhat out of character for him not to have met with his daughter at least once before her [marriage] to offer fatherly love and support, and to waylay her concerns and apprehensions pertaining to such a major life change. [john] may have personally escorted her to england” (messer). they had a very collaborative political relationship, even in spite of the actions of joan’s husband, llywelyn. i think it’s significant that joan was a female bastard child — one he facilitated an incredibly advantageous marriage for, which he arguably did not need to do, but nevertheless not an active threat in the way male, legitimate children would be. it does make their relationship interesting. the fact that we can identify visitations between king and daughter, and grandchildren, as well as giftgiving and rewards between them, can and has been used to construct an idea of john as an attentive and co-operative father to a child old enough to have had a tangible relationship with him, albeit joan’s feelings wrt his treatment of welsh hostages, the de braoses, or the burning of bangor are unknowable.

and, yes, his heir seems to have remembered him fondly: “the evidence shows that he looked upon his father’s resting place with great affection. he sank vast sums of money into worcester”. however, henry iii was nine when his father died, so it’s unlikely they had much of a relationship before john’s death. john would have been too itinerant, and the practicalities of day-to-day life for king and royal heir would not have facilitated a close relationship. i have always thought it interesting that isabella did not stay in england to act as regent to her son, which makes me speculate that there could not have been too intimately close a familial connection. on the other hand, would it be unreasonable to point to henry iii’s relationship with his half sister, joan/siwan of wales, as indicative of familial closeness linking the two together in the memory of their father?

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Henri IV with his Mistress by Louis-Nicolas Lemasle

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Margoth, the crossdressing, gender bending ‘transvestite’ royal spy of King Henry III and Prince Edward - Later King Edward I - who helped to turn the tides in the Second Baron’s War of 1264-1267

Sources: The Plantagenets (2012), Dan Jones / Memories of Kennilworth (1867), Edward Waldorf / The Chronicles of Walter of Guisborough (1272-1312) (crudely translated by me)

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Coronation of Henry III by Frances Brundage.

The son of King John and Isabella of Angoulême, Henry assumed the throne when he was only nine in the middle of the First Barons' War.

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A VISIT TO KING'S LANGLEY

King’s Langley was once home to a massive Plantagenet palace, built out of the remnants of a hunting lodge of Henry III for Edward I’s Queen, Eleanor of Castile. She furnished it lavishly, with carpets and baths. There were shields decorating the hall and a painted picture of four knights going to a tournament, while the expansive gardens were planted with vines. After her death, the palace was…