#HRH Prince Andrew

[world-of-wales]

HAPPY 42ND BIRTHDAY TO HRH THE PRINCE OF WALES, WILLIAM ARTHUR PHILIP LOUIS ♡

On 21 June 1982, Prince William was born to Diana and Charles, then known as Prince and Princess of Wales in St Mary's Hospital, London, at at 21:03 BST. He was born during the reign of his paternal grandmother Elizabeth II and was the first child born to a Prince and Princess of Wales since Prince John's birth in July 1905.

The little prince's name was announced on 28 June as William Arthur Philip Louis. Wills was christened in the Music Room of Buckingham Palace by the then Archbishop of Canterbury, Robert Runcie, on 4 August.

William studied at Jane Mynors' nursery school and Wetherby School in London before joining Ludgrove. He was subsequently admitted to Eton College, studying geography, biology, and history at the A-level.

The Prince undertook a gap year taking part in British Army training exercises in Belize, working on English dairy farms, and as part of the Raleigh International programme in southern Chile, William worked for ten weeks on local construction projects and taught English.

In 2001, William enrolled at the University of St Andrews, initially to study Art History but then changed his field of study to Geography with the support of the love of his life Catherine Elizabeth Middleton who he met while at school.

Will and Cat fell in love during their time at uni, and married at Westminster Abbey on 29 April 2011. The couple have three adorable cupcakes Prince George (b.2013), Princess Charlotte (b.2015) and Prince Louis (b.2018). The family of five divide time between their official residence, Kensington Palace and their two private residences - Amner Hall & Adelaide Cottage.

After university, William trained at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. In 2008, he graduated from the Royal Air Force College Cranwell and joined the RAF Search and Rescue Force in early 2009. He transferred to RAF Valley, Anglesey, to receive training on the Sea King search and rescue helicopter, which made him the first member of the British royal family since Henry VII to live in Wales.

During his active career as a Search and Rescue Pilot, William conducted 156 search and rescue operations, which resulted in 149 people being rescued. He then served as a full-time pilot with the East Anglian Air Ambulance starting in July 2015, donating his full salary to the EAAA charity.

Working with all branches of the military, he holds the ranks of Lieutenant Colonel in the Army, Commander in the Navy and Wing Commander in the Air-Force

Upon their wedding, WillCat became HRH The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, The Earl and Countess of Strathearn and Baron and Lady Carrickfergus. He became the heir apparent on 8 September 2022, receiving the titles of the Duke of Cornwall & The Duke of Rothesay. William & Catherine were made The Prince and Princess of Wales by Kimg Charles on 9 September 2022. Additionally, William also became the Prince & High Steward of Scotland, Earl of Chester, Earl of Carrick, Lord of the Isles, and Baron Renfrew.

As well as undertaking royal duties in support of The King, both in the UK and overseas, The Prince devotes his time supporting a number of charitable causes and organisations with some of his key areas of interest being Mental health, Conservation, Homelessness, Sports and Emergency Workers.

He has undertaken several overseas trips representing the monarch, covering a wide array of countries like Australia, Canada, Namibia, Malaysia, South Africa, Tanzania, Pakistan Italy, Jordan, Kuwait, France, India, The Bahamas, Belize, Afghanistan etc ; He is also is also a founder of various initiatives like United For Wildlife, Heads Together, Earthshot and Homewards.

[brf-rumortrackinganon]

I think Princess Alexandra, Prince Michael of Kent, Princes Andrew and Edward, Princess Anne and Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, and maybe even Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis (several of whom are also styled HRH) would have something to say if the use of Prince/Princess and HRH was restricted to people in the direct line of succession. That won't happen while the King's elderly cousins and siblings are still alive. Maybe William will do it.

Taking things away from 5- and 3-year-old children who aren’t being raised in the monarchy, who don’t live in the country of the monarchy, and who stand no chance of inheriting the throne is not the same as taking things away from **everyone.**

If King Carl Gustav (Sweden) and Queen Margrethe (Denmark) can end royal privileges for the families of their younger children (Carl Phillip, Madeleine, and Joachim) without it affecting older family members who have worked, and/or do presently work, for the monarchy, King Charles can end royal privileges for the family of his younger son without it impacting everyone else.

The precedent is there. All Charles has to do put his big boy pants on and do it.

[grits-galraisedinthesouth]

The Royal Grift Rewind: "Sparry's Ameri-CON"

POV's Fanmail Friday: Prince Harry on A1 Visa

Edited to add: The Me Too Sussex Couple:

Allegedly (since #megxit) MEgain's retort even to Queen Elizabeth's FACE was "what about Andrew!!" When the duo publicly changed their minds and DEMANDED prince & princess titles upon the Queen's death, allegedly Meghan complained (what about Andrew) "what about Beatrice & Eugenie who have HRH!!!"

I've always believed The Sussex Duo is legally challenging EVERY attempt the Palace makes to sever ties with the duo.... they've used Andrew's behavior & legal troubles to blackmail the palace.

@and-the-void-looked-back When the Queen gave them 1 year to make a go of it in NORTH AMERICA (canada) she made a deal with the devil. The duo used every excuse: sars-cov-2, mythcarriage, etc to extend their "benefits." K Charles gave the people a creative lie: "escalate family tensions"

Better Up also needs to be investigated ASAP!!

Exactly @trexalicious

[officalroyalsofpierreland]

Celebrate & Give: The PreWedding Charity Gala

Edinburgh, Scots

Ahead of their Wedding Day, HRH Prince Oliver, HIH Madame Hortense, their friends, family and other royal guests attend a charity gala at the Royal Mueseum of Art. The gala was hosted by the bride and groom's uncles: HIM Emperor David of Pierreland, HIH Prince Henri of Francesim, & HRH the Duke of Argyll. In lieu of gifts, the couple asked attendees to the wedding and joyus citizens to donate to Wounded Warrior Foundation, Royal Armed Forces Bereavement Fund, Let's Read Francesim, and The Mother & Infant Teaching Fund.

Arrival of the Families

HRH Prince Oliver of Scots & HIH Madame Hortense of Francesim

TM King Alexander & Queen Marie Christine of Scots

TIM Emperor Napoleon V & Empress Charlotte of Francesim @empiredesimparte

HIM Madame Mere

(L-R in the back) HRH Prince Magnus of Argyll, HRH The Duke & Duchess of Argyll, & HRH Prince Dominic of Argyll (Front) HRH Prince Andrew of Argyll

Back (L-R): Princess Amelie of Francesim, HIH Princess Olympia of Francesim, HIH Prince Henri of Francesim, HIH Princess Marianne of Francesim, HIH Princess Sophie of Francesim. Front: HIH Princess Armance of Francesim

TIM Queen Vivanna II & King Phillippe of the Ionian Union @funkyllama

(L-R): HIH Prince Henri of Pierreland, TIM Empress Katalina & Emperor David of Pierreland, and HIH Princess Maria Aisha of Pierreland

HIH Crown Prince Louis of Pierreland & HRH Princess Magdalena of Lunaria

Left: Their Highnesses the Grand Duke & Duchess of Bordeaux Right: Mrs Isabella Villa & Mr. Sebastian Villa

Guests

HM Queen Diana of Simdonia & HRH Prince Gerhard de Geloes @bridgeportbritt

HM Queen Anastasia of Carrington & HRH the Duke of Clois @royalhouseofcarrington

TM King Arnaut & Queen Lorraine of Uspana @nexility-sims

HM King Harrison of Brighton @covingtons

HM Queen Elizabeth of Trenton & HRH the Duke of Glassworth @trentonsimblr

(L-R): Mr. Ahmad Chambers, Miss Lucy Chu, Lady Evie MacPherson, Lord Callen MacGregor & Lord Rhys MacPherson

[celticcrossanon]

Personally, I've had enough of this circus. The monarchy does nothing to stop them and we end up wondering if there is not a double game on the part of Charles and the palace. Four years have passed and so many things that could have been done and nothing happened. The palace protects these two traitors and considers the public stupid. They could have taken away the duchy from them, demoted them to the rank of count and countess or worse, baron and baroness. All traitors.

Hi Nonny,

I think many people are feeing fed up with the Harkle antics and the lack of a firm response from the palace. I know I am. I agree that more could be done to minimise the Harkle damage.

I would start by making a very clear distinction between them and the rest of the royal family, in a way that would be understood by people in any country, such as taking Harry off the royal website. King Charles made a good beginning in his speech shortly after his accession where he spoke of William and Catherine as The Prince and Princess of Wales and referred to Harry as Harry, while wishing him well in his life overseas, but - he then didn't follow it up with any action to reinforce that distinction, so Harry was able to continue to imply that he was an important member of the royal family, and there was nothing to contradict this on the website or in his titles.

With respect to the titles, my understanding is they go together, as a group. The format is to have a Dukedom in England, an Earldom in Scotland, and a Barony in Northern Ireland (Wales is reserved for the heir to the throne). Prince William's titles upon marriage followed the same format (Duke of Cambridge, Earl of Strathearn and Baron Carrickfergus), as did Prince Andrew's (Duke of York, Earl of Inverness and Baron Killyleagh) and Prince Philip's (Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Merioneth, Baron Greenwich). Prince Edward was unusual in that he was made and Earl, not a Duke, and promised the Dukedom of Edinburgh in due course (Earl of Wessex and Viscount Severn). He also held no Scottish or Northern Irish title until he was granted the Earl of Forfar for use in Scotland on his 55th birthday.

As the titles were bestowed together, to my mind they should be removed together, which would leave Harry as The Prince Harry and Meghan as The Princess Meghan (EDIT: Correction: The Princess Harry/Henry, not Meghan - my mistake, sorry). I would much rather have the HRH style and Prince title permanently removed from Harry, leaving him as the plain Duke of Sussex, or have all titles stripped from him, leaving him as Harry Mountbatten-Windsor. I would also be happy to see him vanish from the royal website. If both of those happened I would be very happy, as then Harry Mountbatten-Windsor could live his life with the privacy that he keeps saying he desires, with no public ties to the BRF. He could be on the same level as Peter Phillips and Zara Tindall, who have both managed to live without titles.

[anonymoushouseplantfan]

I’m still betting that down the line Andrew, Harry and Meghan are going to get a big downgrade in titles/LOS.

Anything related to the LoS or dukedoms has to be done by parliament which isn’t going to happen. The HRH or the prince title, Charles can limit them but considering he did nothing when the Susx decided to style their kids prince and princess, I don’t have any hope of it.

Charles has also completely given up on kicking Andrew out of royal lodge. And he was invited (in garter robes no less) to the coronation, he was in a prime position at church in balmoral and at Easter. So yeah, funny how Charles’ sources were criticising and complaining about andrews prominent position at Philips service, only to do the same thing.

I personally think Andrew is a bigger problem for the RF. His presence and Charles’ toleration and indulgence of him, made me dislike the king. Frankly Harry is only a backstabbing piece of shit and yeah while he is a shitty person, atleast he isn’t involved with pedophiles and accused of sexual assault. To the general public Andrew is bigger problem solely because he is actually accused of a serious crime of which there are strong proofs of.

I don’t think they will do anything official. Heck, they aren’t even taking councilor of state away and that’s less controversial than titles or the LoS.

At least they are shutting down “reconciliation” rumors for both Andrew and Harry. That’s more than QEII was willing to do.

[whitmoreroyals]

The Royal Wedding of Crown Prince Ethan & Andrea Thurston (1964) 

Transcript under the cut

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Millions are gathering to witness the first televised royal wedding. It's sure to be a fairytale nuptial.

As the final guests make their way into the Cathedral, we notice some significant royal representatives. such as HRH Princess Elenor of Albion @thealbionroyals, TM King Alexandrina I and TRH Grand Princess Frederick Harrington of Esha @crownsofesha, HM Queen Beatriz and HM Mother Rowena of Uspana @nexility-sims, and TM King Johnathan and Queen Elizabeth of Corrilea @theroyalsofcorrilea.

The following royal representatives arrive TRH Earl Thomas and Countess Lillian of Hereford @stthomaspalace, TRH Crown Prince William lll and Duchess Katherine of Simdonia @bridgeportbritt, and TRH Prince Ezra and Princess Gabriela, The Prince and Princess of Westburg @trentonsimblr.

And the final royal representatives have arrived TM King Frederick and Queen Elenore of Elthonia @miyuzarry, HIM King Everette III, HRH Princess Lorraine of Iona @funkyllama, and TRH Crown Prince Otto and Crown Princess Roa of San Sequoia @hrh-the-royals.

Escorted by her father Zander Thurston, the bride travels from Renard Palace to Queen María's Cathedral for her marriage to Crown Prince Ethan.

As the bride makes her way into the Cathedral we see Crown Prince Ethan and his best man Diego Olson waiting patiently at the altar.

The beautiful bride wearing a satin dress with lace sleeves is making her way up to the altar with her bridesmaids, flower girl and pageboy's following behind.

The bridal party features Eliana Thurston, Maliyah and Malakai Thurston, Lady Bridgette Houser Jones, HRH Prince Colin of Irenda, Adrianna Thurston, and HRH Prince William III of Simdonia.

The wedding ceremony was performed by Lionel, Eye of Jacob as he gives his sermon and blesses the couple with the watchers' blessing.

{Eye of Jacob} As you embark on your journey together, there are three important blessings from the Watcher that you must receive. Firstly, you shall be granted The Watcher's Absolution, which will absolve you of any past sins and allow you to move forward together without any hindrance.

{ Eye of Jacob} Secondly, you shall be granted the Watcher's touch, which will protect the holy union that you are creating here today. Lastly, you shall be granted the Watcher's Blessing, which will assure you that the Watcher loves and cherishes you both individually and as a couple, and will always be with you.

{Eye of Jacob} It is now time for you to declare your intention in front of the Watcher and all who have gathered here today, as you have received Jacob's Trilogy of Praise. Ethan, will you take Andrea Everly Thurston as your lawfully wedded wife?

{Ethan} I do.

{Eye of Jacob} Andrea, do you take Ethan Alexander David George to be your lawfully wedded husband?

{Andrea} I do.

{Eye of Jacob} By the watchers blessing I pronounce you husband and wife.

The newlywed couple are seeing breaking away from tradition as they share a kiss during the ceremony.

Congratulations to the newlywed couple as they embark on this new journey together.

The newlywed couple can be seen giving an expression of respect to TM King Andrew and Queen Anne.

The crowds cheer as the newlyweds walk out of the Cathedral to the carriage where they make their journey back to Renard Palace for the reception.

The royals begin a new tradition by appearing on the balcony of the Palace to wave to the millions of Whitmorians as their way of making their people feel included on their big day.

On this day, the newlyweds started a new tradition by sharing a public kiss on the balcony, something the royals had never done before.

Creator Notes: Thank you to everyone who sent your lovely sims to be a part of this wedding and for being so patient with me. After months of waiting due to having some unexpected things happen in my life. If you want to see the photos in color you can see them HERE :)

[houseofbrat]

In 2008, several years before Andrew’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein came to light, his older brother had an idea to streamline the monarchy, and it didn’t go well. "Charles floated the idea that several Windsor offspring be demoted, stripped of their HRH standing, have their royal protection taken away, and, most revolutionary of all, kicked off the royal payroll," Christopher Andersen, author of "The King," told Fox News Digital. "Prince Andrew fought these proposals that would have resulted in his daughters Beatrice and Eugenie each being forced to earn their own living and downgraded from ‘Princess’ to ‘Lady,' a suggestion that was shouted down in an angry confrontation between him and Charles," Andersen said. According to Andersen, the Duke of York didn’t think twice before he decided to "throw a fit." "By all accounts, it was a literal battle Royale, a desk-pounding shouting match between the two brothers, both known for their volatile tempers," Andersen claimed. "Keep in mind that this was years before Andrew's involvement in the Jeffrey Epstein sex abuse scandal essentially forced the king to put Andrew out to pasture."

I'm still waiting for Charles to do it.

[duchessofostergotlands]

Military last names! Which last name Andrew and Edward used when they started in the military? William and Harry used Wales, obviously for their dad’s denomination, and Andrew had York after his wedding. But which one he used before?

Hey :) We decided not to answer this in the podcast just because we only got a few questions that were factual and we decided they didn't fit with the other questions which were more about our opinions or experiences. So I'll answer here :) It's not really my area but if you look at pictures of Andrew during his time in the military you can just see it says HRH Prince Andrew so I assume that was what he went by. Much like how Ingrid Alexandra goes by Alexandra in the military while others use their last name.

No idea what Edward used but I'd guess the same format.

[world-of-wales]

HAPPY 42ND BIRTHDAY TO HRH THE PRINCESS OF WALES, CATHERINE ELIZABETH ♡

Catherine Elizabeth (nee. Middleton) was born to Michael and Carole Middleton at the Royal Berkshire Hospital, Reading, on 9 January 1982. She was christened when she was six months old at the parish church of St. Andrew’s Bradfield in Berkshire on 20 June.

Catherine studied in nursery school in Amman during her family's time in Jordan. After moving back to the UK, she joined St. Andrew’s School, from where she went on to study in Marlborough College in Wiltshire, studying Chemistry, Biology, and Art at A-level.

The Princess undertook a gap year gap year studying at British Institute in Florence, working with Raleigh International programme in Chile, and crewing on Round the World Challenge boats in the Solent. In 2001, she enrolled in the University of St. Andrew’s where she met William for the first time to study Art history.

Cat and William fell in love during their time at uni, and married at Westminster Abbey on 29 APRIL 2011 at Westminster Abbey. The couple have three adorable cupcakes Prince George (b.2013), Princess Charlotte (b.2015) and Prince Louis (b.2018). The family of five divide time between their official residence, Kensington Palace and their two private residences - Amner Hall & Adelaide Cottage.

Upon her wedding, Catherine became HRH The Duchess of Cambridge, The Countess of Strathearn and Lady Carrickfergus. She received the titles of the Duchess of Cornwall & The Duchess of Rothesay upon King Charles's accession to the throne. William and her were made The Prince and Princess of Wales by him on 9 September 2022.

As well as undertaking royal duties in support of The King, both in the UK and overseas, The Princess devotes her time to supporting a number of charitable causes and organisations with some of her key areas of interest being Early Childhood Development, Children's Mental Health, Visual Arts and Sports among others.

[brf-rumortrackinganon]

I know majority of royal watchers are really upset with the Harkles still sitting on the BRF website but I cannot imagine how really mad they both must be right now - joint page with less than 500 words, no mention as prince or his and their kids' place in the line of succession (this is importantly because the sugars always day he's the son of the king and 5th in line to boast) just the duke, nothing about his pre Rachel engagements, and most comically they're below Andrew hahahaha!!

I agree.

I know that it's maddening because it looks like the Harkles keep getting away with it, but they really aren't. It's death by a thousand cuts, with everything being slowly and meticulously and carefully whittled away. Look at everything they had in September 2018 at the height of public goodwill and popularity:

HRHs

Titles

Exclusive and solo engagements with The Queen, Charles and Camilla, William, and Kate.

Commonwealth Trust, Invictus Games, military honors, and royal patronages

Palace residence

RPO security

Royal jewelry

Glamorous international tours

(mostly) Positive press coverage

Photo ops with William and Kate

A personal lifestyle subsidized and funded by Charles - free housing, free transportation/cars, free expense budget (free meaning they didn't have to pay for any of it)

Freebies from designers

Access to A-list Hollywood elite

Prominent placement on the company website

Seniority/#3 ranking

Compare that to everything they have now:

Titles

Invictus Games

Yes, it's frustrating. Yes, they still have access. Yes, they're still included. But what they have now is less than an eighth of everything they had six years.

It's schaudenfraude, my friends. The little things matter too.

[officalroyalsofpierreland]

Wedding of HRH Prince Oliver, Duke of Rothsey & HIH Madame Hortense of Francesim Part 1

Travis: Welcome Everyone to a sunny and joyous Edinburgh for dare I say, the wedding of the year! Today, the world has flocked north to witness HRH Prince Oliver of the Scots, Duke of Rothsey finally get his girl and marry the amazing and angelic HIH Madame Hortense of Francesim. I’m Travis Middelton of the Scottish Broadcasting Corporation and I am joined by the one and only Stéphane Bernard of Francesim 2. Sir, it is an honor to present alongside such a legend. Stéphane: Thank you Travis. It is great to be presenting alongside my fellow colleagues at the SBC. Your warm hospitality, and the hospitality of the kingdom have been on show for the past 2 weeks between the charity gala and engagements conducted with both families.

Stéphane: I, myself feel a bit emotional today as the French have been waiting for this moment since Madame Hortense has been born. The first wedding of a French Princess for the first time in over 200 years! Travis: A historic moment indeed! Stéphane and I will be here for every moment of the day, giving context and insights on both Scottish and French elements that will influence these proceedings from our perch here near St. Andrew’s Cathedral.

Stéphane: And I see that Prime Minister Amara Ahmad and her husband are arriving as one of the first political guests of the day. Will we see an abundance of kilts today? Travis: Potentially! Guests who are not in the military are encouraged to wear it and I do know that the groom has at least 3 cousins who are too young for military service so we should be seeing some kilt action. Stéphane: And the groom? We’ve received word that he has an honorary appointment as Colonel of the King’s Highlanders. Travis: We will see him in a kilt! It is the first time in a very long time since a royal groom was seen in a kilt, so this will be a treat.

Stéphane: Well I think some colleagues in Paris are buying lunch on my return as the young people of the office did bet on the Duke wearing a kilt today! We now are seeing Queen Diana of Simdonia and her devoted husband Prince Gerhard entering the cathedral, looking very striking in red, which is a color for both The Kingdom of Scots and Simdonia. Travis: Queen Diana always stuns in her fashion and Prince Gerhard has redefined the word dapper. The bride and groom were present at Prince Gerhard’s Victory Games earlier this year in their first engagement of as fiancés. Stéphane: Yes they were! Prince Oliver won 1st I believe on behalf of the Wounded Warrior Foundation with the support of Madame Hortense. I do believe I have seen many servicemen entering the cathedral. An honor for them, to witness this moment at the invitation of their future king.

Travis: It was quite a touching but not surprising gesture from Prince Oliver as wounded servicemen hold a special place in his heart. Back to the royal arrivals, HM Queen Anastasia of Carrington and her husband HRH the Duke of Clois have arrived looking stunning in light blue. Stéphane: Which has been a color Madame Hortense has been seen in many times. It was the official colour worn by the women of the French imperial family abroad. The Queen and Duke from Carrington seemed to make fast friends with the bride and groom based off stills from the gala.

Stéphane: And one of the first members of the couple’s extended family have arrived. The Grand Duke & Duchess of Bordeaux who are also known as the Duchess and Earl Consort of Carlisle are here with the Grand Duke wearing his Imperial Air Force uniform while the Grand Duchess stuns in a subded dark green Travis: Next to them is the Grand Duke’s twin, Mrs Isabella Villa and her husband Mr. Sebastian Villa. The Bordeaux siblings are cousins to Prince Oliver and the Grand Duke has been seen with Prince Oliver here in Scots as children. Very interesting that we see nothing from Mr. Felipe Valois who has closer ties to the couple since he served aboard a naval submarine with Emperor Napoleon V.

Stéphane: Turning to guests taking their seats inside, King Arnaut and Queen Lorraine of Uspana are looking regal and cheerful today. I do love the homage to Uspanan culture from the King. King Alexander is encouraging national dress today? Travis: Absolutely! If we were to wear kilts but deny other’s their cultural emblems, we’d be a little silly no? I do love the yellow accents on Queen Lorraine, a sunny pop of color inside this very grey cathedral. We have also just received word that Prince Oliver and his best man, Lord Callen MacDonald have left Highland House, where Prince Oliver spent some time with his close friends including several of his cousins.

Stéphane: We’ll be keeping tabs on the groom’s arrival as we look again outside and see that another set of newlyweds have arrived, Queen Viviana II & King Phillippe of the Ionian Union! Philippe is Madame Hortense's first cousin, and second in line to the imperial throne of Francesim. Travis: Wedded bliss looks wonderful on them and I like the feather motif with the pair. And more countries should use purple as a uniform colour.

Stéphane: A regal color for sure. King Harrison of Brighton is being led to his seat. Dare I say, a bold fashion choice to opt for a patterned waistcoat! He was seen conversing with HIM Madame Mère last night, the two sharing the loss of spouses.

Travis: Just now arriving is the ever youthful Queen Elizabeth of Trenton and HRH the Duke of Glassworth. What is in the trentonian water and how can I get it? If I get to age as gracefully as Her Majesty and His Royal Highness, I would consider myself extra blessed.

@bridgeportbritt @royalhouseofcarrington @nexility-sims @funkyllama @empiredesimparte @covingtons @trentonsimblr

[sassyfrassboss]

If the prenup says Meghan gets $15m in the event of a divorce but Harry is broke and can’t pay her $15m. How does that work? Does he have to pay in installments? Or is the debt cancelled out?

If court is satisfied with proof that Harold doesn't have $15M nor can he pay it, then yes, debt cancelled. 

It's been proven in court repeatedly that family wealth is external and protected in a divorcing. Eg Tessa of Luxemborg tried to argue in court that the Luxemborg royal family is super wealthy and therefore she and the kids should be paid serious money ( $200M) based on ex-husband Prince's Louis's royal family wealth.

The court threw out her case and made clear that his family wealth had nought to do with the Prince even though his married life had been funded and lavishly gilded by that same family wealth.

The Luxemborg royals had the same deal as BRF where members have all the perks and money as long as they remained part of the family. A divorce meant cutting off Tessa. 

In the end she got between £3K - £6K per child per month + education trusts, no house or alimony. 

Similar deal with Fergie and Diana where divorce settlement was predicated on personal wealth of their husbands and not the royal family wealth or trusts.

Fergie got penuts compared to Diana because Andrew's personal wealth was nought. The Queen adored Fergie and Andrew being favourite son meant that exception was made for Bea and E as far as the trusts created for them due to the divorce plus education and day to day living costs ( all this was made public knowledge at the time). I'll also add that Fergie and Andrew didn't want to divorce, but her series of public embarrassments culminating in the public revelation of her 2 affairs ( Steve Wyatt - horse riding photos with Bea therein AND Financial advisor - toe sucking with Bea and E in the pictures) was a red line for the family and their divorce was ordered. No mediation or couples therapy. Andrew begged The Queen to rescind the order, but this is one of the few times she stood her ground and insisted upon the divorce. BUT the way it was handled was very amicable. Fergie kept *her HRH, she briefly moved out, but then moved back in, she continued to attend private royal family affairs including Sandrigham  christmas, but kept out of sight etc. 

*Fergie's HRH was not part of the divorce agreement and for afew months afterwards she was HRH Sarah, duchess of York, BUT Diana voluntarily gave up her own HRH as part of her divorce negotiations because she wanted to cut ALL ties with the royal family. Afew weeks later she was hit with the reality of the lost status of not being HRH and ran to the media to ran a campaign about those mean royals taking her HRH title away and even invoked William in her media games. She hoped the media would bully The Queen into giving it back. Instead, The Queen amended the LP to add that anyone divorcing an HRH automatically lost their own which unfortunately took Fergie's post-divorce HRH too. 

Diana got a better divorce settlement because Charles was personally wealthy unlike his siblings. While he couldn't touch the duchy of Cornwall assets to fund the divorce, he'd built up personal wealth separate from the duchy and that is what he gave Diana in the divorce. He had to borrow cash from The Queen to do it, but he didn't touch duchy assets.

Haya of Dubai was divorcing a man so extremely wealthy that he makes the royals look like paupers in comparison. And the Judge didn't allow her serious money in consideration of his wealth. Frankly, i thought she got very little. 9/10th of her settlement was restricted to security matters as the judge recognised that her Ex is a clear and present danger and she'll need that level of security for rest of her life. Take that sum out of the equation and she barely cleared £50M for herself. 

All this to say that Meghan hoping for royal family settlement on her should she divorce Harry is delusional. 

She'll get a settlement based upon his private wealth and not a penny more. And if it turns out that she has more than him, she'll end up paying him - happens all the time in California divorces eg Halle Berry.

Meghan also has several negatives that mean family won't play gall eg her direct attacks on them, her personality, the bullying report etc 

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Thank you so much for this!

I wi say the Tessy thing never really set well with me. I mean I dislike her immensely but she was trying to get some money and I think her ex was like “yeah but I’m worth less than poverty wages…” which you know damn well he just didn’t want to pay out…

I am super curious why his engagement with the lawyer didn’t work out?

Oh and Halle’s divorce!? Man her true colors have come out over the years huh?

[celticcrossanon]

On Youtube's "Palace Confidential" this week (Thursday, Feb 23rd) Royal Reporter Rebecca English answered a tweet question on why H can't have his HRH title stripped. Her answer: KC3 doesn't want to humiliate H by stripping H of his HRH title (even though he could by Letters Patent). IMO, Prince/Princess HRH titles should be restricted to full-time working royals & the heir to the throne to prevent Royals like Prince Michael of Kent, Prince Andrew & Prince H from cashing in on their titles.

Hi Nonny,

Titles are tricky. I think it is time for a review of the HRH style and Prince/Princess title, and I would be happy to see the HRH restricted to the direct heirs to the throne. I'm less sure about the Prince/Princess title. They are a marker of royal birth, and that is not restricted to just working royals. It seems rather unfair to remove the titles from people who are the children or grandchildren of the monarch, simply because they choose not to be working royals. Maybe restrict the use of Prince/Princess to the children of the monarch and the children of the future monarch (direct line to the throne)? I don't know what the answer is here.

[charlotte-of-wales]

Roles to be performed at the Coronation Service at Westminster Abbey

Buckingham Palace is pleased to announce further details on the Ceremonial roles to be performed by individuals in the Coronation Service at Westminster Abbey.

The Ceremonial roles include bearing the Regalia in the Procession and presenting the items to Their Majesties. Those undertaking these historic roles in the Service have been chosen to recognise, thank and represent the Nation due to their significant service, and include representatives from Orders of Chivalry, the military and wider public life.

The first processions into Westminster Abbey will be made up of Faith Leaders and Faith Representatives followed shortly afterwards by representatives from His Majesty’s Realms. Flags of each Realm will be carried by national representatives accompanied by the Governors General and Prime Ministers. Bearing the Flag of the United Kingdom ahead of Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Mrs Akshata Murty will be Cadet Warrant Officer Elliott Tyson-Lee, who said: “It is a great and incredible honour to be a part of Their Majesties’ Coronation Service as a representative of the Royal Air Force Air Cadets."

This will be followed by The Procession of The King and The Queen which will be led by the Marquess of Anglesey, the Duke of Westminster, the Earl of Caledon and the Earl of Dundee who will carry the Standards of the Quarterings of the Royal Arms and Standard of the Principality of Wales. Francis Dymoke will carry The Royal Standard.

Mr Dymoke’s claim to undertake a historic role in the Coronation was upheld by the Coronation Claims Office. The title of King or Queen’s Champion has been held by the Dymoke family since the Middle Ages. The King’s Champion would previously ride on horseback into the Coronation Banquet and challenge any who doubted the right of The King or Queen to the throne. There has not been a Coronation Banquet since that held by King George IV in 1821 so the Champion has instead undertaken a different role since, usually bearing a flag or Standard.

Also taking part in the procession will be Admiral Sir Tony Radakin, Chief of the Defence Staff, acting as Lord High Constable of England, an office held for the day only. Traditionally the Lord High Constable is a Great Officer of State and has historically been connected to the military. He will take part alongside the Earl Marshal, the Duke of Norfolk.

The Earl of Erroll will act as Lord High Constable of Scotland. Similar to that of Lord High Constable of England, this role has historically been connected to the military and the Earldom of Erroll through a Coronation claim. The Earl of Crawford and Balcarres will act as Deputy to the Great Steward of Scotland, HRH The Prince of Wales.

The following will then process to the altar carrying Her Majesty’s Regalia:

Baroness (Helena) Kennedy of The Shaws – Carrying The Queen Consort's Rod

General Sir Patrick Sanders – Carrying The Queen Consort's Sceptre

The Duke of Wellington – Carrying Queen Mary’s Crown

The Rt. Reverend and Rt. Hon the Lord Chartres– Carrying The Queen Consort's Ring

Lord Chartres said: “The ceremonies of the Coronation are ancient but they have been freshly interpreted for our contemporary world.”

The following will then process to the altar carrying His Majesty’s Regalia:

General Sir Gordon Messenger, the Governor of HM Tower of London – Carrying St Edward’s Crown as Lord High Steward of England

Baroness (Elizabeth) Manningham-Buller LG – Carrying St Edward's Staff

The Duke of Buccleuch and Queensberry KT – Carrying the Sceptre with Cross

Baroness (Floella) Benjamin OM – Carrying the Sceptre with the Dove

Dame Elizabeth Anionwu OM – Carrying the Orb

The Keeper of the Jewel House, Brigadier Andrew Jackson – Carrying The Sovereign’s Ring

Petty Officer Amy Taylor – Carrying the Sword of Offering

Lord Hastings and The Earl of Loudoun – Carrying the Spurs

Lord President of the Council, Penny Mordaunt – Carrying the Sword of State in The King’s Procession

Air Chief Marshal the Lord Peach – Carrying the Sword of Mercy (The Curtana)

General the Lord Richards of Herstmonceux – Carrying the Sword of Spiritual Justice

General the Lord Houghton of Richmond – Carrying the Sword of Temporal Justice

General Sir Gordon Messenger, the Lord High Steward of England, (also an office held for the day only) is the most senior Great Officer of State for the Coronation, in order to bear the St Edward’s Crown into the Abbey, the most significant item of Regalia. On carrying St Edward’s Crown, General Sir Gordon Messenger said: “It is a huge and unique honour to be appointed Lord High Steward for His Majesty’s Coronation. To be playing a key role on such an important and historic occasion is a source of great pride to me, my family, the Royal Marines, and the Tower of London community.”

Petty Officer Amy Taylor will be the first woman to bear the Jewelled Sword of Offering into the Abbey. She has been selected to represent Service men and women, as a Royal Navy Petty Officer, a tribute to His Majesty’s military career. She said: "Having served most of my senior career as an Aircraft Engineer on 845 Naval Air Squadron at RNAS Yeovilton where His Majesty originally trained and served as a pilot, I am deeply honoured and humbled to play my part in this historic event. Coming from a farming family His Majesty has always been such a great advocate for our community and someone I have admired growing up."

Baroness Benjamin and Dame Elizabeth Anionwu are amongst recent appointees to the Order of Merit, the final members to be chosen for the Order by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Baroness Benjamin said: “I feel honoured and privileged to be part of the historic Coronation ceremony. To be selected to carry the Sovereign’s Sceptre with Dove, which represents spirituality, equity and mercy, is for me very symbolic as it’s everything I stand for and sends out a clear message that diversity and inclusion is being embraced."

Participating in the act of Recognition of His Majesty whereby His Majesty will be presented to the Congregation at the start of the Service will be:

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Baroness (Valerie) Amos LG, Lady Elish Angiolini LT, and Christopher Finney GC, Chair of the Victoria Cross and George Cross Association.

During the Coronation Service the Regalia will be presented to Their Majesties. Those presenting have been chosen on the advice of Government. Those presenting Regalia to His Majesty will be:

The Lord Carrington, Lord Great Chamberlain – Presenting the Spurs

The Lord (Syed) Kamall – Presenting the Armills

Baroness (Gillian) Merron – Presenting the Robe Royal

The Most Reverend John McDowell, the Church of Ireland Archbishop of Armagh – Presenting the Orb

Lord (Narendra) Patel KT – Presenting the Ring

Lord (Indarjit) Singh of Wimbledon – Presenting the Coronation Glove

The Most Reverend Mark Strange, Bishop of Moray, Ross and Caithness, and Episcopal Primus of Scotland – Presenting the Sceptre with Cross

The Most Reverend Andrew John, the Archbishop of Wales – Presenting the Sceptre with Dove

The Archbishop of Canterbury – Performing the crowning with St Edward’s Crown

Those presenting Regalia to Her Majesty will be:

The Rt. Reverend Rose Hudson-Wilkin CD, The Bishop of Dover – Presenting The Queen Consort's Rod

The Rt. Reverend and Rt Hon. Lord Chartres – Presenting The Queen Consort's Sceptre with Cross

Brigadier Andrew Jackson, The Keeper of the Jewel House at HM Tower of London – Presenting The Queen Consort's Ring

The Archbishop of Canterbury – Performing the crowning with Queen Mary’s Crown

On presenting Regalia to Her Majesty, The Bishop of Dover said: “I am surprised, excited and honoured to have been asked to play a part in this historic once in a lifetime occasion. As I make my presentation, both Their Majesties will remain in my prayers as they seek to serve the nation and the Commonwealth.”

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After reading Valentine Low’s new piece in The Times, here are a few of my thoughts of things not in that piece, specifically King Charles’ future letters patent. 

Beatrice, Eugenie, Archie, & Lilibet will be stripped of their HRH style and prince & princess titles. Same for Louise & James even though they don’t use titles. All six will be styled as daughters & sons of a peer going forward, e.g. The Lady Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor and The Lady Eugenie Brooksbank. 

Harry & Andrew are going to lose their HRH style for sure because they are not “working royals,” even though they are both the sons of a monarch. Possibly even lose their prince titles as well. (If they don’t lose both their titles & styles this year, then Andrew definitely will lose them both permanently within the next three years. Harry will only get his back when he returns as a working royal years later in the future.) 

King Charles III will change the House name from Windsor to Mountbatten-Windsor. The title & style changes will further delineate the House of Mountbatten-Windsor from the former House of Windsor.