#Guardian Unsha

[shakingparadigm]

[junebluues]

i was thinking about the alnst guardians being on twitter and i had the URGE to make this sorry. idk how these two would act at all but i giggled

[nottoonedin]

Okay it might be just me but does Unsha kind of sound like a disappointed father figure in the interview? Like he sounds almost fond of Ivan?

Like?? He doesn't even pick out Ivan because of his talent, he focused on how different and extraordinary his eyes looked? Could just be because he wanted to impress his wife but you'd want an entertaining pet no? (Also side note Ivan being a Valentine's Day present..)

He was only disappointed? If it were Urak or Herperu who had their pets give up on stage I'd say they'd be pissed. Reminds me of the phrase commonly used by parental figures: "I'm not mad. Just disappointed." Calling Ivan an "ambitious kid" comes off almost endearing?

Something something parents learning from their children. A mentor learning from their student. Or something.

Do you guys think. He's moving on from human pets because. Because he knows there will never be another one like Ivan. Like Ivan is special (to him) in a way?

Then again, you can also take the interview as Unsha talking about Ivan like a business partner. Because that's how they viewed their relationship. But it'd be kind of unheard of having a pet human as an (almost) equal?

(Let me be delusional okay Ivan Unsha father-son relationship PLEASE-)

Edit: Should probably add that I'm not saying Unsha is a GOOD father figure. He reminds me more of a neglectful father. Probably not as abusive as Urak and Heperu, but he definitely pushed Ivan and had high expectations for him (I don't think Ivan would willingly have that daily schedule if it weren't for Unsha's gain).

[crustyfloor]

Guardian Unsha found dead in a ditch after investing so much money into his golden child Ivan just for him to go fuck up, lose, and publicly embarrass Unsha by throwing the round for and kissing his rival's pet-human on live television

[ivantill-i-kms]

!!!????!?? CUTE??? OLD MAN YAOI IS REAL????

And then you remember that Unsha has a wife 😂

Cr: t4tivantill on twt

[cloverandstuff]

In an alternate universe where Ivan survived,

this post by @/pwippy started this brainrot

[atrophiedemotion]

unsha’s reaction to what ivan did in round 6 isn’t particularly surprising to me, but it was really interesting to see straight up like that.

it really feels similar to, like, if you were training a show dog for years and they’d always performed perfectly. you made it through tournament after tournament of the dog doing everything exactly as it should, but once you get onstage at semifinals, the dog attacks you out of nowhere. you don’t understand why- you had no idea your dog could ever misbehave at all, let alone like that.

but truthfully you never spent time with the dog. you passed it from trainer to practice constantly and figured it was well behaved enough to take care of itself, as long as you paid for its training. you left the dog to its own devices otherwise so you never really knew what it got up to outside of that.

and after you’ve lost and are left with a dog no longer fit to compete, you start to question everything you thought you knew about it.

[lether]

Unsha请多给Urak一点商业压力好吗好的

[shakingparadigm]

Tumblr user pwippy (or plip! may I call you that?) you are keeping me alive with these megamind urak edits THANK YOU.

@shakingparadigm i made more. the insanity continues

[shakingparadigm]

It seems like Unsha is.... fairly tame? At least compared the horrendous feats of Urak and Heperu. He almost seems more grounded compared to them? Unlike Urak and Heperu, who are obssessed with winning to the point of trying over and over again, Unsha accepts his loss gracefully and moves forward with other things.

Ivan was a gift to Unsha's wife for her birthday. He chose children based off of their potential, and when Ivan showed the most promise he gave him full investment. Instead of forcing out Ivan's talent through more heavily abusive means (nurturing, it seems to be called), he brings Ivan to success through sponsorships, methodical marketing and exposure. Unsha considers the things he learned from being with Ivan and takes interest in what Ivan's thoughts might have been before death. He says that despite everything, Ivan was worth the investment and worth the loss.

I'm not trying to say that Unsha was a "good parent", he was neglectful to Ivan's personal needs and worked him relentlessly among other things. There definitely could have been more diabolical actions that haven't been revealed yet. He undoubtedly viewed Ivan as a product that he needed to sell (a businessman in all areas), but it's just interesting to note his differences and train of thought. Much to think about.

[junebluues]

the real reason unsha and urak had beef thanks plip for putting the idea of them as good luck babe in my head

[chirpycloudyrobin]

tw body horror / description if desecration of (fictional) corpses but

i wonder if it's a thing w the aliens to taxidermy their fave pets or some shit

like walk w me here

shine likely loved mizi as much as an alien could and was probably sad that her own pet was sad at sua's death so imagine she bought sua's body from nigeh (who prollie doesnt give that much of a shit) to turn sua into a doll for mizi so at least mizi would have her sua with her, right ?

and then on unsha's side... taxidermying ivan's body as a keepsake. maybe as a doll to put on display for his wife. or maybe as a trophy for his first venture into the human pet business like how some people keep models of their first successful work kind of thing.

are u getting my vision ? 🧍

[ivan-alnst-official]

Wanna know what else was surprising? A certain flag I found in your closet one time.

Urak I want my husband back (Till) GIVE HIM BACK

I don't have him currently.

[ivantill-i-kms]

I think it's quite interesting that Urak has a higher rate for Till than Unsha for Ivan ...

Is it because Unsha neglects Ivan? I mean it states that while he didn't abuse Ivan like Urak did to Till, he doesn't really care about Ivan that much either, just viewed him as an investment...

[haedeemi]

in relation to this, this is either pre R6 or after (canon divergence), but basically the boys are popular ofc. Their guardians agreed to do a photoshoot together. Unsha agreed. These aren't the shoots they usually do tho, but figured to try it out? This is all new territory after all. Might as well take the opportunity. He didn't tell Ivan for whatever reasons, and gave him basically a sex drug at the request of the photographers to enhance the shoot.

Till probably took it but threw it up when no one was looking bc he realized what it was. He's not always successful doing this but be it luck or a misfortune that the one time he did avoid getting drugged.. he was with ivan

[atrophiedemotion]

The interviews got me curios about Unsha's wife now. I wonder if she was fond of Ivan and if she was sad when he died. She probably was since he was speficially given to her but I wonder if she cared about him as his own being and not just because he was hers. Maybe when his adoption day comes around we can get a comic about Ivan being given to Unsha's wife?

ahh hello, thank you for the ask!! im sorry this took so long but rest assured i have been Thinking about this (i wrote little notes for my response while at work pondering over it lmao)

i think a gifting comic would be very interesting! the way unsha talks about picking ivan out as a gift definitely feels like unsha was thinking more about what their wife would like than anything else. it feels like, from that, that she probably was fond of ivan- but probably more like. a very pretty fish you have in your fish tank, if that makes sense. someone else pointed out that it's likely she was the alien with the flowers in the background of the frame in black sorrow where child ivan has a singing trophy, and i really like that theory. if it is her, it'd show that she does admire him and his abilities.

some of the segyein seem to see humans in a very similar way to the pets we as people have but with even less understanding of them. i think it'd make sense for unsha's wife to 'adore' ivan in the way someone would somewhat shallowly love a pampered poodle? id love to believe she cared about him as his own being but i honestly just don't think most aliens have that capacity simply because of how different they are biologically. (not to mention the fact that ivan was certainly never himself around any of the aliens. hard to deeply care about a fabrication, even if you're not aware of it- but that's another topic regarding ivan's relationship with unsha that ive been thinking about)