#Ghost Lore

[styona]

Well that's a comprehensive deep dive, shout out to the commenter, I could never cuz I'm way too dumb for that. I loved the ctrl c ctrl v bit btw, that's genius.

But if Primo has children of his own why they were never mentioned once at all in the lore, I'm really curious. I mean it can be chalked up to the fact that when Primo was created I'm assuming the lore wasn't even thought about cuz they just had to make it work, the lore was definitely not a priority at the time

[this-is-where-i-hide-my-bullshit]

I know it's not people's faults for not knowing, but I still get extremely annoyed at people saying stuff like "why are ghosts always represented by sheets? I guess people used to just be scared of sheets."

They aren't ghosts because they're covered in a sheet, they're covered in a sheet because back in the day, they wrapped dead bodies in sheets when they buried them. The ghosts are wrapped in burial shrouds because that's what they were buried in.

People weren't scared of sheets, they were scared of the corpse UNDER the sheet.

[monstersholygrail]

Ghost bf craves more than anything to taste the nectar that gushes from your folds whenever he brings you to orgasm. The fact that he can’t ingest anything that’s not on his physical plane slowly brings him to feel as if he is dying all over again. Your essence so close and yet unreachable.

He refuses to give up, pumping load after load into your sloppy wet cunt. He grits his teeth, staring at the wet sheets under you in envy. The way they so easily soak up your glorious release. He doesn’t stop as he fucks his cock into you, watching you arch off the bed like a woman possessed.

His hand makes contact with your clit and you jolt, pleasurable goosebumps trailing down your legs. Your body seizes, exploding around his ghost cock just as he releases another hefty load inside of you.

Your bf doesn’t hesitate to slip out of you, leaving you to hiss at the faint stinging sensation. Your pussy fluttering closed now that his invisible length left you. His hands push against your soft thighs and you see them spreading wider in what appears to be all on their own.

A moan rips out of you, a much smaller pressure gliding between your puffy lips. Your ghost bf laps at your pussy, his spirit aching for just one taste of your sweetness.

“Wait…” you croak out, legs shaking. This being the umpteenth time he’s repeated this cycle, giving you an idea what of what he wants and is not getting.

When you don’t feel what you assume is his tongue a moment later, you weakly rise onto your elbows. Despite being spent, pleasure swirls in your gut as you watch his spectral-cum ooze out of you.

Reaching down you whimper at the sparks of over sensitivity as you move your fingers through your folds in small circles, mixing your release with his. Your breathing picks up, the sight more erotic than you can admit. But you can feel yourself growing wetter and you can only imagine your bfs smug expression.

“That should work, right?” You ask into your seemingly empty bedroom, not expecting an answer as always.

A moment later you feel that pressure return, a gasp escaping your lips. Your bf slowly licks at your combined cum. His own musk crashes into his tastebuds and for a moment that’s all he tastes. But then, as if the door to the afterlife has finally been opened he tastes the most heavenly flavor as it coats his tongue.

Ghost bf moans, the sound moving through the wind and sending a shiver up your spine. You chuckle lightly but you quickly choke on it as your bf returns full force, happily slobbering up every last drop of cum he can find. His cock already prepped to do this all again.

[irlplasticlamb]

blasphemy, heresy.

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[namelessjhoulette]

I can’t see one without seeing the other.

[fieldghoul]

A round-up of ministry technology:

Chapter Two: The Cardinal

Copia is carrying the Siemens R836 stereo, produced c. 1988

Chapter 5: The Call

The TV in the hospital is the Toshiba T277Z, produced c. 1977

p.s., the first clip playing on the TV is twins running away in Chapter 1 :-)

Chapter Seven: New World Redro

Nihil's typewriter is the Olympia SM9, produced c. 1965-1968

Chapter Ten: Home Coming and Special Guests

The record player in Cardi's room is actually not vintage! It's the Victrola 3-in-1 Bluetooth Record Player, produced c. 2017

To get deep into minutiae, the other thing they pan past on the shelf that looks like an antique cathedral radio is actually a piece of ceramic -- you can see it's holding a book. It's made from a commercially available plaster mold, namely the Duncan DM-355 B, which was manufactured in the late 70s. Here are photos of the same ceramic with a different glaze, and the mold itself :-)

Chapter Twelve: Ghost Goes Hollywood

Cardi's camcorder is part of the Sony CCD-TRVX5 series, produced c. 1998

(My understanding is the CCD-TRV75, 85 and 93 all have the same body -- but it's one of those.)

Chapter 16: Tax Season

Cardi's TV is the Samsung BT-317TR, produced c. 1984

He is, of course, playing the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES), produced c. 1986-1990

The radio is the Motorola TT23FS, produced c. 1968

The phone gadget is the Tele-Rest, produced c. 1958

The alarm clock is a Lawson Model 215 Sierra, produced c. 1948-1981 (Lawson clock history seems... complicated)

As for the phone itself... I can tell you it's this exact phone, since this prop house seems to have supplied all the props in this video, but there are too many identical puke-green rotary phones produced between the 1940s and 1970s for me to pretend I can tell which one it is (same goes for the other two rotary phones in Chapter Five).

Rite Here Rite Now

The TV backstage is (probably) a Magnavox 20MT4405/17, produced c. 2006

If you turn the brightness on RHRN way the fuck up, you can see a piece of tape over the brand badge on the TV. (But that can't stop me!!!)

I'm sure most of the tech choices are just for humor and Tobias's personal nostalgia as a child of the 80s, but I do love way all of the old tech characterizes the ministry. It's not clear if they're just luddites, cheapskates, out of money, too bureaucratically inefficient to upgrade (like the government!) or if it's something completely different. But that's why set dressing is fun, it tells stories indirectly :-)

[foxybouquet]

Well, one of ‘em had mom’s nose. 😆

Any thoughts?

[copiousloverofcopia]

Ok ok so here me out with my BS

We have been getting A LOT of imagery of Secondo/Infestissumam related things inregards to Papa V.

Not only does the official flash animation for Papa V show the infamous flashing scene of Secondo's ancient serpent deceiver from the Year Zero video, but there is even a more recent "Red Death" inspired shirt featuring Secondo on it. This new Papa V looks seems, at least to me, seems to be partly inspired by Phantom of the Opera (the Red Death) specifically. Plus, the whole baby on the Infestissumam album cover with a HALF MASK!!! right, RIGHT lol

Also, they made the whole infestissumam stuff a part of the last tour, anyone remember the huge rendition of the album cover in the Spillways lounge?

This new Papa is younger right? What if we were led to believe that this is Copia's twin, but it is in fact Secondo's SON.

Therefore, they are still very much part of the bloodline and would tie into some things and make the younger Papa make sense.

Also notice in the V flash animation that we get two sides of Papa V mirrored what it that is a clever way to head that they will be two different Papas with two separate masks to differentiate them and they will share the spot line... so the twins?!

Also, if you would lol, remember that there is t-shirts and other merch with only Secondo (from my recollection) specifically that shows him with 2 babies which everyone assumed were the twins from the chapters but what if that was a red herring....

So.... my theory is that the new Papa, Papa V Perpetua is Papa Emeritus II/Secondo's son and that we may even be in fact in store for it to be 2 SEPARATE PAPAS, TWINS!

What do you all think? I'd love to know.

[blackbird5154]

In this Meliora era interview, Tobias suggests that Terzo has a nicer personality than Secondo because he had a better mother.

I like to imagine that Terzo had a caring and supportive mother who instilled in him good manners and respect for women. He is definitely the more empathic of the two brothers, maybe due to this. I also like to think that he became responsible and inclined to protect the weak because he was the only male around his mother, whom he cared for.

I also found this post on the official Instagram. Whoever this woman was (Tobias' mother?), she was very proud of her son.

[spicyghouly]

Judith

GHOST FANS PLEASE LET ME COOK I RLLY LIKE THE NEW GIRL PLSSS

[stressghoul]

THEORY TIME

in the Prequelle era, this is what the backdrop for Cardinal Copia’s stage looked like

it featured Cardi naked with a peculiar tattoo on his chest

that 666 tattoo is a direct reference to The Omen (1976) where the main character Damien was the antichrist- look at the hidden mark he had in his hairline:

this connection is nothing new; Tobias has said that the film had influenced him more than once but since it hasn’t been confirmed that Copia is the antichrist cannonically, I wonder …

what if that is not Copia but PERPETUA who has been confirmed as Copia’s twin?

[osiiiris]

I barely know anything about Necropolitus! Would like to know more about another actual canon character

Please, have a seat *prepares two cups of tea*.

Now, unfortunately we don’t know very much about the character of Bishop Necropolitus Cracoviensis II himself, we only know that he is the official Ministry’s artist, and he took care of the Ghost’s albums artworks since Infestissumam. 

We know from him that he knew Terzo since he was a cardinal in Krakow, that they studied Futurism together and liked to party, as he himself reveals in the following FB post. Plus,  we have some pics of him working on Meliora in his sacristy:

Among his Facebook posts, there’s also this presentation of the back cover for Prequelle, which I find interesting:

He signed also the Ghost-inspired cover of Noise magazine in 2015.

We also know that Terzo helped him sketch the cover for Popestar (since Tobias IS the Papas and the album is Terzo’s, I’m considering it part of the canon).

But most importantly, we can see a certain dedication from the Bishop to Terzo’s equipment…

Now, while he’s worked with almost all the Papas, he’s only spoken openly about Terzo. The main elements we have are:

The yearly 666 creampies Terzo used to “eat”.

Wild parties in the seminary attic.

Futurism manifestos study.

A shared passion for architecture/city planning. 

His admiration (or devotion…) for Terzo.

His Terzo’s nsfw fanarts.

TO ME, IT IS ENOUGH.

We have the artist and the muse, two clergymen bound by a shared passion for art, the life of the party, a power couple with aligned visions, who shared long and passionate conversations about art and most likely they used to hang out at cabarets and literary cafés together.

Necropolitus admired Terzo’s ambition, and Terzo admired his artistic talent.

Necropolitus loved hearing Terzo speak about his plans for the Papacy and trusted in his work completely.

To this day, Necropolitus still remembers him, remains devoted to him… he still holds on to his portraits, never letting the memory of him fade.

[kitkatclubcopia]

Fyi there was a pram/stroller behind this guy in the ministry the whole video ^^

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!

[irlplasticlamb]

now and for always, a perpetual rise.

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[lexosaurus]

Ok, listen. I know, I KNOW that "Phantom Planet's Not Canon Fuck You." Okay?

But just. Hear me out for a second.

Do Halfas Need To Breathe In Ghost Form?

Okay so this is a really lowkeye "debate" (I say that in quotes because it's more just that people have different headcanons and tbh this is the best way anyway because, you know, fuck canon death of the author and all) as to whether or not Danny needs to breathe in halfa form. And while I, like most people, just sorta decide whether or not he needs to breathe based on whatever my fanfic plot needs, I actually think, canonically at least, there is some solid evidence that no, actually, they don't need to breathe in ghost form.

There's a few times in canon where Vlad is choking Danny mid-fight and Danny looks more mildly annoyed than seriously panicked about it, but you can largely chalk that up to Kid's TV Screening Filters, so I don't put much weight on those.

However, there are some moment that sticks out more than the rest. And that's when Danny and Vlad are in space.

Yeah, uh, I'm talking about Phantom Planet.

(I'm sorry)

So initially, both Danny and Vlad are shown to be wearing helmets that presumably have oxygen filtering through them. Now now, I know what you're thinking: Lexx, wouldn't this mean that they do need to breathe in ghost form?

My theory isn't that they can't breathe in ghost form, my theory is that they don't need to breathe in ghost form. There's a difference.

I also think that they probably don't exactly want to test the theory if they have to breathe or now. Better safe than sorry, so let's wear helmets!

(Also, side note, this furthers the other lowkeye "debate" as to whether or not they get seriously cold in their ghost forms because, uh, they're in space with no spacesuit)

But I digress. Here they are shown with helmets, suggesting that they do have some breathing capabilities, even in ghost form.

But at the end of the episode, we see Vlad here chilling on a space rock, no helmet in sight, looking perfectly fine albeit disappointed and bored.

This, obviously, suggests that halfas do not need to breathe in ghost form. And I think Vlad literally just discovered that as soon as he was ejected to space sans helmet.

So my theory is, while Danny and Vlad have the organs required for breathing and do breathe as a reflex automatically, when put in situations like outer space where oxygen is not available, their ghost half takes over a little more and they stop breathing. I think this is such an automatic thing that when this change happens in day to day life (like Danny being choked by Vlad mid ghost-fight), that like how us humans don't actively think about breathing, we just kinda do it, they don't really notice it either.

So that's my theory. I'm so sorry for needing to cite Phantom Planet here. I'm sure there's other things you can pull from canon too, but this was just the most obvious. Again, headcanons ftw, okay peace out ✌️