#Geelan

[fullscoreshenanigans]

greatest tragedy of this year's pride month was not seeing Leuvis, Bayon, and/or Geelan in the Prith shirt </3

[fullscoreshenanigans]

For better or worse, we can narrow it down to them dying in the beginning or middle of October, so we know they didn't die on his actual birthday.

(Mystic Code Book Chapter 7 - Series Timeline)

Assuming Norman arranging the conference with Geelan traveling to and from their base all takes place over the course of a minimum of two days from October 30-31, that means that the latest they died is October 18, and the latest the group can begin their ten-day journey to the paradise hideout is October 19.

Mangacaps below the cut:

(Chapter 110; either still the same night Lucas and Yuugo die or the very early morning hours of the next day, assuming Andrew wouldn't live longer than a day with the injuries he sustained.)

(Chapter 112; still in the early morning hours when Ray shoots down the mechanical owl that was tracking them.)

(Chapter 113; a sunrise to official start the next day when they begin the ten-day journey)

(Chapter 114; the timestamps we're given of their journey before the group meets Hayato and Jin)

(Chapter 118; Zazie showing up on the night of the eighth day to escort the group to the paradise hideout, which they reach roughly two days later)

(Chapter 122 | Chapter 125; Norman arranges the conference with Geelan via letter, presumably delivered by owl since the first and last time they meet, Geelan told him to come alone with one subordinate himself, and Geelan mentions it's a long journey that Norman and Zazie are taking on foot.)

WAIT NONONONONO-

WAIT WAIT WAIT NO

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY DIED THE SAME MONTH HE WAS BORN????!!!! WHAT DO YOU MEANNNNNNN

we don't have a specific time frame for when bunker dads bite the dust but the fact that it is so close IS JUST HEARTBREAKING WTFFFF

Ray 🤝 Oliver

HAVING THE WORST MEMORIES ASSOCIATED WITH UR BIRTHDAY

[officersnickers]

never not okay how the Bayon family did threat the cattle humans like pure shit but apparently  had a fairly normal and also loving relationship with each other

the way Bayon jr. holds his children in his arms... Bayon sr. patting his sons head as if he’s proud of him (while Junior looks a bit embarrased lol)... ugh 💔

[usagirln12003]

Legravalima: Hogwarts AU

Legravalima was a Pureblood (vampire) witch that was born on the 14th of January 1419 and started attending Hogwarts on the 1st of September 1430, being sorted into Slytherin House.

She had a Blackthorn wand with a Dragon Heartstring core.

Her Patronus was non-corporeal.

Her favorite subject was Potions and her least favorite subject was Defense Against the Dark Arts.

Legravalima was a level-headed and self-centered woman who was terribly respected; as soon as she entered the room on her estate, all the heads of the Five Regent Families bowed down to her. She had nerves of steel, as she barely reacted at all to Geelan's surprise attack on the underground city or as more and more of the noble families get massacred by his army sneering to "not make her laugh". Despite her status as the Vampire Queen, Legravalima was more than happy to fight against those who disobey her.

Legravalima was a greedy vampire who valued status and wealth over the well-being of her people. She favored herself and her Family to live a good life, while expressing that she had no problem in starving and eventually kill the lower-class vampires, as that would solve their population problem. Since Mujika and her family was a threat to this society, Legravalima got rid of everyone except Mujika.

Legravlima possessed a superiority complex and was very power-hungry. It is said that she because she had pure blood, she wanted to become the most beautiful and strongest of all, which is why she craved the best meat, despite it being known that the vampire king always received the best meat during the offerings. She also cast her father and siblings away, since she so desperately wanted to reign everything herself. One thing she did not have was the perfect human meat, and as so, Legravlima spent much time to be able to devour Norman. In connection to this, Legravalima is defined by her constant hunger. Despite being at the top of the vampire hierarchy, and therefore able to eat more and better meat than anyone else, she is never satisfied.

[fullscoreshenanigans]

#I find the comparison to the Adam and Eve story quite interesting #I also find it interesting that they evolved into human-like creatures before the food they ate started changing them #I wonder if it has something to do with the demons greed #perhaps they all had blood like Mujika but them eating whatever made them lose it after a few generations?? #maybe that's why they changed their God system it started worshiping him instead of the gods Mujika and Sonju worship bc they felt forsaken #also them murdering those who still had the special blood for vaguely religious reasons kinda like our history ? #idk just some thoughts (via @silentstudiosyt)

Based on the mystic code book Q&A from earlier, it sounds like the push to the new faith was almost entirely manufactured for the convenience of the demon nobility in order to maintain the social stratification of demon society rather than genuine widespread doubt in the original faith.

(Chapter 142)

And the demon god goes along with it because, as Emma notes, he's a whimsical/capricious one due to his longevity.

I frequently forget this due to it not being openly discussed in the text, but compare the village the Seven Walls search party walks through in chapter 103

to what we see the demon nobility use to travel to the imperial capital in chapter 140

The Bayon clan traverses by what looks like a steam locomotive while the Noum clan has…one that hovers or flies? Or it's a demon that looks conveniently shaped like one.

While we don't know if to work at one of the farms the demon staff have to relocate their entire families

(Mystic Code Book Chapter 7 Q&A)

There is some prestige attached to it, even at the mass production farm level. It seems like outside of the farms and nobles' estates, technological advancements have purposely been withheld from the general demon population into the 2040s as another means of controlling them. If you're too busy just trying to survive, there's less chance of a revolt and upending the status quo.

With how Norman explains it in chapter 120, the demons were evolving based on what they ate since early on in their existence as a species

before eventually stumbling across humans.

Prior to the promise being forged, they theoretically had unrestricted access to humans, so to tie into the framing of Mujika as a unique messianic figure and human intelligence as the pinnacle for demons to acquire and maintain, their degeneration/warped appearance is predominantly treated as the fault of the demon nobility's draconian regulation of their world's food supply.

(Chapter 132 | Chapter 164)

I do think you can explore the demons' waning belief in the original faith due to them collectively losing their genetic stability as a species either entirely separate from the manipulations of the upper echelons for their own sociopolitical gain or making them more amenable to it since Shirai does spend some pages acknowledging how they were complicit with the system due to the comforts it afforded them, comparatively scant as they were

(Chapter 175)

However, much more time is spent developing empathy for the plight of the average demon

(Chapter 49 | Chapter 130)

and criticizing those with power at the macrolevel for manufacturing consent and scarcity in the face of new developments that would be objectively good for society

(Chapter 147 - "All they care about is their profits.")

that I'd hesitate to phrase it simply as the collective demons' greed that led to this for falling into the more generic anime racism S2 falls into with Norman attacking a random village instead of pointedly targeting the capital.

#Something more interesting to me is the fact the snake is crossed out while the beetle isn't #Pretty sure you can't perform Gupna on an insect. There's no blood to drain the flower wouldn't bloom #You could argue maybe they don't really see insects as 'meat' #But considering the beetle's lined up with the other animals here I really don't think that's the case #Anyway point is from what Sonju tells us eating insects is probably against the Old Faith #So this whole 'no snakes' thing probably wasn't carried over from it and instead originated after the Promise #(if we assume it's a cultural/religious thing.) #(The existence of snake-like demons doesn't eliminate the possibility of snakes being biologically unviable) #(There's a lot of animals they could eat to end up like that. Lampreys worms caecilians etc.) #But I disgress. I'm not a theologist or anything just pointing out something i found weird. (via @darklight-owl)

With the visual representation for the splitting of the two worlds in chapter 48's cover art being an apple (even if it isn't actually the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden)

on top of the aforementioned framing of Mujika as a messianic figure and Emma falling into this as well, I wouldn't be surprised if Shirai opted for symbolism over biological realities on this particular matter since its not pressing to the narrative.

And you're right that it would something that came about after the promise

(Chapter 46 | Chapter 157)

Sonju says he and Mujika will eat anything else besides cattle children, though it seems like he has a preference for creatures he can hunt due to the spiritual aspect of it for him.

i want to see people to be talking about this panel in the promised neverland

tpn theory type stuff below cut

google search and stuff has gotten pretty bad so that might be why i'm struggling so much to find theories on this but omg it's a little frustrating because this is the coolest panel.

for anyone that doesn't remember, this was at the demon temple that showed them how to reach the seven walls.

there's one specific thing here that interests me the most, and it's the main reason i think this panel is so interesting, but there's so many other significant things to discuss here so i'll just get through some quickly.

at the top we see what i think is almost definitely the night and day, and the demon god. there're then lines pointing to the beginning of the evolution tree with the small bacteria-like first demons. i think this is telling us that the demon god is the originator of all of the demons. that's pretty huge?? i haven't heard anyone ever talk about that. i don't think this is far-fetched at all too. i strongly believe in this theory.

under the bacteria-like demons are these bipedal, horned, almost human-like demons. i'm less sure about what these are and i think this is more up for debate but i'm guessing these are a slightly evolved form of the first demons from eating lots of small things and slowly working their way a little up the food chain. with slight variations probably from slightly different diets.

under that, we see the demon evolution that we are familiar with.

they eat a fish, they become a fish-like demon. they eat a human, they become the familiar human-like demon. they eat bugs or other small wild creatures, they become the also familiar wild demon. (side note: we know humanoid demons also eat bugs alongside humans which is interesting. what unique affect to bugs have on them?)

it's showing us what the demons will evolve into after eating certain organisms. it all seems to align with what we know from normans research so far.

except for one thing. this is the thing that interests me more than anything else.

UNDER THE SNAKE CREATURE THERE'S JUST AN X.

WHY TF CANT THEY EAT SNAKES.

i don't think we ever get even a hint towards what this could mean in the manga.

gonna be real, i think even if i tried to look for patterns myself, i wouldn't know enough about biology to find much. i don't know much of anything about biology. i think the only thing i take away from this is that for some reason they can't eat snakes.

this stuff intrigues me so much and i just wish i could find more theories out there on this. rahhhh it's so cool. i just want an answer.

oh wait also what is this thing i dunno

honestly i can't make it out

anyway thanks for reading, i don't post about TPN but i just finished rereading all 20 volumes. i probably won't post about it again i just want to get this out

[chidoroki]

182 Days of TPN - Day 125

Chapter 125: "Alliance of Liars"

The level of confidence Norman has in order to pull off the WM facade in front of these menacing demons is crazy. He seems so unbothered by them all too, like they could rip him apart so easily yet he remains completely chill. I guess he has a lot of faith in Zazie to protect him, alongside the upcoming deal.

I bet people can call him a snack and he wouldn't care for it either.

The fact the demons went out of their way to get a chair suitable for a human to use will never not be funny to me.

I'll be honest, I don't really pay much attention to the demon heavy chapters, even if this one includes Norman, so I forgot about the whole "making Geelan king" idea, but makes sense if they're planning to take over the capital anyways. I'm all for the payback towards the Ratri clan though. Fuck 'em.

Our boy certainly knows how to be convincing, playing the best mind games to ensure that this alliance results in a success.

Pfftt why must he say such things with that kind of smile on his face?

Summoning jutsu.

What a little chess-master. Isabella would be proud.

At least they're not completely stupid. Sure Norman looks like a grown man compared to the other children, but with how old James should be by this point, he does appear far too young.

Favorite panel/moment:

Who knew this precious lad could be so intimidating. I suppose you pick up on some things after dealing with Isabella and all these demons long enough.

[i-rate-the-tpn-demons]

[ladoescurodalua]

Beauty in Nature

by Carla Nannette Geelan

[fullscoreshenanigans]

kaiu shirai will just fucking say anything

[omegawizardposting]

Bayon Jr. just like, "Anybody else remember when Geelan was a baddie?"

[officersnickers]

Me: Hinted Ratri-connections for Norman throughout the manga... interesting concept but never really made reality

Also me: Norman and Lord Geelan share a lot of similarities... neat!

Shirai: James Ratri and Lord Geelan would make terrible bosses due to their shared behavior.

Me:

Shirai and Posuka's answers to fan questions: Bonus asks

This is the last one!

Shirai and Posuka have sent messages of gratitude along with the answers.

Link to source in case the images are blurry: x

If you're wondering when Norman's IDs were mixed up

Amaguri no Neverland/Sweet chestnut Neverland was a collaboration event from 2018. A food stall in Shibuya sold roasted chestnuts with free stickers of TPN to celebrate the anime announcement. Here's the official site. The stickers are basically manga panels with the quotes changed to something related to anime announcement celebration lol

Shirai and Posuka already hinted at special plans for the 10th anniversary celebration back in 2021. Personal guess is the PV release of Amazon live action that's currently under production. Better than nothing, I suppose.

[clairemills]

Every time I go through the demons tag, I feel like there’s some sort of a fashion show going on. Keep it up my precious demon artists🙏

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requests are open!!

[fullscoreshenanigans]

Highly recommend checking out @puff-poff's posts on demon culture for anyone who hasn't read them already for the most comprehensive analysis on subjects in this vein.

(Chapter 90 Bonus Sketch)

Luce having the most ostentatious mask of the poachers as a reflection of him being part of the garish nouveau riche compared to the quiet luxury of Nous, Nouma, Bayon, and Leuvis is a familiar and fitting dynamic given the commentary on class division Shirai leans into.

Regarding being able to reveal their faces, I disagree.

(Chapter 102)

While the two demon brothers have never seen meat from any of the four top class farms—with their bodies completely intact upon serving—we do see a collection of mass production heads in a jar available for sale among the lower classes, probably the most expensive jar in the shop with the value the human brain has among demonkind. (One could argue they meant they never saw it because it was in the very back of the shop in that particular panel, but I'd say it's pedantic for ignoring the intention of this speech to be another nod to the class divide and strife among the demon populace.)

There's also the issue of the horizontal placement of human eyes compared to the vertical placement of demons'.

(Chapter 147 | Chapter 149 | Chapter 150)

Older, classical masks like those of the elder Bayons (compared to those of Bayon II's wife and children), Yverk, and Geelan's clan incorporate a pair of symmetrical, horizontal, and frequently vacant eye holes among their designs. In the chapter 90 bonus sketch, this is mentioned as respecting tradition, which I interpret as a holdover from the days of demons hunting humans, and the intention of that incorporation was to play on pareidolia-enhanced fear among humans who, out of habit, would look toward the horizontal pair of eye holes first when gazing upon demons in combat and would frequently be treated to an unflinching, menacing abyss. It's a good subtle tactic to unnerve them before they take in the rest of the mask.

(Mystic Code Book Chapter 7 Q&A)

This is also why I have mixed feelings about the kids' demon masks. On the one hand, I do understand why they wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves and risk having their human eyes being seen through more conspicuous holes.

(Chapter 102)

But I really wish they would have spent a panel acknowledging Gillian, Nigel, and Sonya incorporating nearly imperceptible eye slits or something to clarify exactly how they see while wearing them.

But unrelated to the mask conundrum, there's also the issue of humans having five digits on their hands compared to six that demons have (though I know there's a joke about Sonju having varying amounts of toes throughout the story).

I don’t think it’s been confirmed how well they can smell humans since they had to wear perfume

I'd say them having to wear perfume at all is a good indicator the demons' sense of smell vastly outclasses that of humans.

(Chapter 83 | Chapter 1)

The only reasons the two lackey demons don’t come after Emma and Norman right away in chapter 1 is that they’re caught up in conversation and probably a bit intoxicated off the idea of being able to eat even "just a fingertip" of meat from a top class farm, which is not something for the likes of lowly farm workers to enjoy, though Shirai notes they and even those working at mass production farms do have more prestige than demons of the same class working in other jobs.

(Mystic Code Book Chapter 7 Q&A)

interesting hypothesis…

I have made other posts about how demons differ based on what they eat. I thought this scene when Don, Gilda, Emma, Ray, Violet and Zack were searching for the golden water temples was every interesting

We as the readers have seen demons with feet like that! (These are just Bayon cuz his outfit makes it the easiest to see his feet)

i don’t think it has ever been explicitly said that masks are a sign of wealth, we only know that older/richer/ more dangerous demons have masks that are harder to break

but if they are a sign of pride and status then lower class demons that the protags were interacting with would not have seen the faces of rich demons before!

so hypothetically the humans could show their faces/feet and claim they were rich demons that didn’t show regeneration? The poor most likely haven’t seen human faces before because brains are the most valuable part

but I don’t think it’s been confirmed how well they can smell humans since they had to wear perfume

[chidoroki]

182 Days of TPN - Day 150

Chapter 150: "Vow of 700 Years"

Sigh, if only Yuugo & Lucas has this kind of resilience when it came to explosions.

Crazy to think that an army full of demons can't take down a royal (well, their first core at least) but five kids and an adult can. Sure there's a wide gap between Legravalima and Leuvis in terms of power along with the different defense each of them had (Legs having multiple nobles protecting her vs Leuvis acting solo) but it's still impressive. I know she eventually falls due to the teamwork of three Lambda kids but regardless, someone on the human side still gets stabbed. What a parallel.

Absolutely love how Demizu drew this panel and how it shows the force of impact with the blurred, double lines on her head around Geelan's bat as if this powerful whack is still in motion.

Norman's gotta be thankful that a couple more swings were enough to break her mask. The Lambda crew might've been able to manage that but I feel like it also would've taken longer. Geelan himself noted how sturdy the mask was and while I don't doubt the crew's enhanced strength, it's still the power of children vs a large demon.

The next two pages are so good, with Geelan getting so darn close to ending Legravalima's first life and achieving revenge for himself and all his followers..

To her turning the tables on him in an instant. Using the blur on those freaky fingers/nails of hers really helps convey how quick her attacks are.

I'm sorry but Geelan's blank reaction is hilarious. Even he can't believe what just happened.

I dunno what it is about these panels, but it reminds me of the ch24 convo between Isabella & Ray somehow? Perhaps it's the superior vibes she and Isabella both give off while Geelan & Ray are paralyzed in fear.

Nothing says "royalty" better than showing others just how far beneath you they truly are by stepping on them. (I would prefer getting stepped on by a totally different queen thank you.)

Why am I more annoyed that Yverk is copying Legravalima's epic stomp rather than him beating on a dude that's already dead?

Nothing says true fear like a five year old child wearing a paper bag, a striped shirt to match his tiger plush and wielding long damn swords.

Favorite panel/moment:

I do like that panel of Geelan whacking Legravalima with his bat, but this is a pretty decent one too before he becomes a mess of cubes.