#GOD I LOVE SHIV
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shivroy · 1 year ago
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future shiv
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morethanwonderful · 2 years ago
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Also feeling insane about how Tom and Shiv both want to go back to the points in their relationship where each of them had power over the other.
Tom goes to Shiv on the stairs of her dead father's home and reminds her of when she was vulnerable and fell in love with and relied on him. He hearkens back to a time in their relationship where she was going through a hard time and he supported her, because that's what he wants again. Being the rock supporting Shiv through a storm gives him irreplaceable power there, even if he's nothing but good to her in the process.
Meanwhile, when they had the divorce talk in 4x1, one of the reasons that Shiv cut things off so quickly was that she wanted Tom to reach out and ask for her. If she said "it's over" and Tom tried to fight for her, then it would have been him begging her and her making the decision. It would have given her power over him again.
But I think Shiv recognizes Tom's ploy at the wake, and she pushes him away rather than fall on him, and Tom doesn't let himself beg when she tells him it's over. Tom wants to be her rock again and Shiv wants to be in control of someone subservient, but Tom's sick of subservience and Shiv refuses to be weak or reliant on him. So they're both just grasping at what the other one won't let them have.
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buckysoldatbarnes · 2 years ago
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succession captured the mundane, bizarre, chaotic, inexplicable details of death so perfectly. the denial of roman refusing to admit logan was dead until they stopped giving CPR, the immediacy of the team moving forward with logistics before the kids had even processed it, shiv blurting out non sequiturs, roman stressing over if he said the right words and wanting to see him, all of them grasping for control through making the statement. 
the writers were SO genius for having his happen on episode 3 of the season, only a quarter way into the episode, after they’d already established the episode plotlines. it was sudden, unpredictable, and it blew everything else (the mattsson deal, connor’s wedding drama, roman firing gerri) to ashes. that’s how death is. it has no logic, no narrative symmetry. and by not showing anything until tom made the call, the viewers are put in the sibling’s shoes. we’re as shocked as they are.
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domijeannes · 1 year ago
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gregoftom · 2 years ago
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pretty sure i’ve seen romance movies with scenes like this
#tomgreg#where do i even start with t his horseshit okay here we fucking go.#so tom's first instinct is to go to greg when he's on shaky ground with shiv. the only way  he feels safe is to have GREG with him.#who tf would want greg as an attack dog??!?!? lets be fucking real. when he says that i think he means just a dog. just someone loyal.#who loves him and won't dick him around. i think he's pretty tired of it by now.#he wants an alliance with like. ok in this show who would you pick to ally with. i love greg but he's abso useless in terms of skills that#would keep you safe. if anything TOM would keep HIM safe. in fact tom  himself says who else has taken care of you. literally spells it out.#he even says greg is a joke; will fail; will fuck up; so what use does he have for tom other than companionship. other than love?#a dog might do tricks for you but your main reason for getting one is usually love. right? at least it should be. it would be in tom's case.#and don't even fucking get me STARTED on ''do you wanna come with me? ...sporus?" like girl.#you know what you told him about nero and sporus right. and now you're saying to him; yeah i was talking about you.#you and me. you're my favourite and i wasn't joking when i said i'd marry you.#the whole while tom is asking greg to be his attack dog his fuckin. eyes and expression we get it you're in love with  him. like it's ridic.#and all this coming with phrasing it sounds like they're fucking ELOPING. I HATE IT!!!!!! SHUT UP! stop saying that fucking shit god. god#they are so annoying. anyway#the way tom's voice breaks as he says he has things to do [what things. will i find out later.] and the deal and!!#what am i gonna do with a soul anyways... i have you what do i need it for. and as that paragraph said somewhere. he castrates his soul.#then they giggle and are fucking annoying and greg'S HANDS LOOK LIK EHE'S ABOUT TO IDK. HUG TOM? AROUND THE MIDDLE MAYBE#or do something else. and then they just hug instead and i fucking. ugh. i've had enough tbh good fucking bye
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givemeureyes · 2 years ago
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ha ha guys don’t worry surely they’ll break the cycle next episode! (i’m delusional)
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siover · 1 year ago
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i didnt realize ppl genuinely wanted shiv to ascend to ceo djsjks as @romanfag said this is the DREAM ending for her......on some level getting ceo even of a burning building will never ring hollow for shiv its the ultimate proof of all she believes about herself and is tired of others not seeing it doesn't really follow through on the show's satirical commentary about sexual violence and misogyny inherent to the politics being sustained by capitalism.....not to mention its an unsatisfactory ending for her as a character bc it doesnt really reflect the tone of the story's thoroughline as it relates to her (anti) hero's journey. what better displays the horror of the echoey ghosts of the haunted house than the two brothers being locked out of it forever by the sister locking herself in with her empty suit of a husband who's bleeding her dry :)
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grahamcore · 2 years ago
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the bravest thing a tomgreg girl can do is support tomshiv
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goldlightsaber · 1 year ago
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within the roy family itself, the roy siblings always seem to be more reasonable than their dad, fighting against the forces of the company and clinging to some sense of a conscience, even outsmarting him. but outside of it, in the public eye, they are just a reflection of him -- they are wholly unembarrassed of their obvious prejudice, they suffer from no imposter syndrome. to an outsider they appear condescending and overwhelming and insane, just as their father must appear to them. but in those moments outside their family, they become vulnerable, too, because outsiders actually see the things that are truly awful about them, just like us, the audience, instead of the things logan considers to be awful about them, which are not true (or at least, are not things that actually matter)
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justafriendofxanders · 6 months ago
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discovering a new and fucked up ats -> leverage pipeline
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shivroy · 1 year ago
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spare crumb of hibs and shiv ?
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hey look its all of them because im really nice (but actually its YOU ALL who are really nice. you guys are being enormously kind about fandom baby ily)
important 2 me that hibs was formula-fed by tom or primarily a rotating staff of nannies but every time tom fed hibs he would anxiously, rapidly murmur about how formula feeding has observable adverse effects on a child's development and health. if shiv is there she gets on her phone because she just cannot listen to that
here's a shiv diary section that makes me want to scream
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cauldronofmorning · 1 year ago
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Thinking of Shiv telling Kendall it triggers her when he acts like dad, and he reacts to her wobbling by begging, screaming and getting violent with her.
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themacabrebarbie · 4 months ago
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tag drop !
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stepbackattack · 2 years ago
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He’s tired. He’s tired. LEAVE HIM ALONE HE’S TIRED. *tears apart pillow with teeth*
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gregoftom · 2 years ago
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oh ok
#succession#tomgreg#OH MY GOD THE SCENE IS THIS CLOSE AFTER?!?? i thought i had some time !!! i jqqqqqqq#man. man. mn!!!!aman!!!!man!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man.#matt johnson you would love tomgreg#what the fuck is this scene though i want to die i PHYSICally want to di e Eeeeeeeeeee#he........i .........fkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkmmmmmmmmmmmm#ok. okok. ok . novel tags ok i can think through my absolute fucking grief. ok so basically.#tom giving greg advice about prison. and then greg like basically begs to have tom take the rap for him. but not directly.#he can never say things directly. but tom translates. and it doesn't take him long to say fine. load me up. you piece of shit.#but he doesn't even mean the latter statement he's too sad. and he won't fight. the fight is all gone out of him.#so much for greg being expendable though huh?#look me in the eyes and tell me tom isn't in love with greg at least a little. yall telling me you'd take the rap for someone and go to jail#for them if you didn't love them? ok bestie you do you#i kind of like as well the comparison of the conversation between them and him and shiv like. it's very similar in that him and greg are#saying sentences that are parts of different conversations like him and shiv's convo ALTHOUGH it is still related bc it's to do with jail#she wouldn't even talk about that subject at all. and then it correlates to the whole. nero and sporus thing right. and the dressing up/ring#ALSO THE FACT HE DIDNT WANNA SLEEP WITH HER AND HES OUT LATE AT A DINER WITH GREG I GET IT G IS HIS MISTRESS#but anyway.#and the WAYYYYYYY greg's voice breaks and the way he looks at tom with pleading eyes and it looks like he's about to cry#that's what does it for tom i think. that's what breaks him. he can't bear the thought of greg suffering for months.#which makes me believe that that is why he was so sad earlier when greg was asking for advice. he doesn't like greg to suffer#by other hands of course. if it's by his hands that's another matter BUT THATS ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS#LIKE I KNOW ITS KIND OF AN ASSHOLE MOVE OF GREG BUT AT THE SAME TIME HES LIKE. idk early 20s. 26ish latest???#and i would be fucking terrified i'm 30 and i still don't know what the fuck is going on i don't know how i am still alive so i get it.#and if you have someone who has been taking care of you and has in the past flexed their power and money to give you food and parties#and move you up in a company and give you opportunities you most likely would never get. you kinda. latch. and fall into a pattern.#you assume he has a way out for you#has help. i mean greg probably assumed he wouldn't say yes in the first place so he kinda Has to be an asshole for any chance at all tbh.#he even said quid pro quo. but tom didn't even want anything in return. i mean idk what greg could even give him [lol] but still.
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saint-cecilias · 2 years ago
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ooof @ Kendall immediately thinking about how best to insulate Sophie as a form of protection that does NOTHING to address her emotional needs and only seeks to make him feel like he’s DOING something about a problem that he either can’t or won’t try to understand. 
and extra ooof @ the way it mirrors how Logan also insulated Shiv as a means of control masquerading as protection. 
and DOUBLE EXTRA OOF @ KENDALL LEARNING THAT’S HOW BEST TO PROTECT A DAUGHTER. 
BECAUSE HE SAW LOGAN DO IT TO SHIV. 
BUT HE’S CONVINCED HIMSELF HIS WAY IS LESS DAMAGING BECAUSE HE HAS GOOD INTENTIONS AND LOGAN DID NOT BUT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE ROAD TO HELL AND GOOD INTENTIONS AND ALL THAT
 I JUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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