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Guilty Gear Vastedge Fish Indulgence Wednesday

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If I listed it all like this (?): Would it all make sense?

GG1 v (Inspired) GGX ^ (Retake of Events/Not a Retelling) v (Made a Spinoff) GGPetit1+2 (Mini GGX basically with expy characters) v (Made a Sequel) GGXX (has its own branching possible stories) v (Made a Patch Update) GGXXReload (just an update but took out an old character) v (Made a Spinoff) GGIsuka (has spinoff characters) v (Made a Patch Update) GGXXSlash (brought spinoff character and new character) GGJudgment (spinoff of Isuka) GGRoA (spinoff of Judgment) v (Made yet another Patch Update) GGXXAC (no story, just an update with spinoff characters) v (Made a Home Port) GGXXACPlus (Story which continues BASED on SOME GGXX events but not everything) v (Made an Arcade Port) GGXXACPlusR (Arcade-rebalanced/Cross Platform Nothing else added) v (Spinoff Gaiden Content) GG Novels/DramaCDs/Books/Manga (some take place after AC) v (Finally Decided to Make a Direct Sequel of GG1) GG2 Overture (^ Limited Sequel of GG1 but doesn't include much from older games' interpretations) v (Yet another Spinoff) GGVastEdge (Just barely organized its info between GG2 and Xrd... but is actually unorganized) v (More Gaiden Content) Unseen Sign/GG Begin (some take place before GG1 and after VastEdge) GGXrdSign (partial interpretation of GG2's events and all past GGXXAC events) v (Direct Sequel) GGXrdRevelator (spins its own take of Sign's events) v (Slapdash Patch Update) GGXrdRev2 (^ same as Revelator but "borrows" its own Interpretation of GGX events and adds After Story content) v (Incomplete Ongoing Sequel) GGStrive (interprets "some" of Xrd's events its own way "but not all" and some older GG events get reinterpreted)

It looks like a huge stack of Lego blocks... but the point I'm trying to make here is that GG Strive is its own Story Interpretation of previous events. Just as Xrd interprets GG2 and GGXXAC events, just as GGXXACPlus interprets XX events and even has its own interpretation of GG1 events...

They all have their own phrasing and interpretation of previous events.

Whether you accept the "current take" (current story) or only accept the "previous take" of how the characters were or used to be like... welp, that's ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.

For my Money, however... I'm still waiting for Strive's BIGGER PICTURE (the full roster) to develop before I determine what I think... but if future games/content/Gaiden/spinoffs make their own interpretation of Strive's events and "change little things" along the way... that's bound to happen as well.

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To give you guys a broad idea of who did what:

GG1 > Ishiwatari worked on GGX > Sammy worked on GGXX Series/Isuka/AC > Sammy/Sega worked on GGXX Novels/Drama CDs/Xtra Manga > Ishiwatari was consulted GG2 > Ishiwatari worked on GGVastEdge > Staff at ARCSys worked on it GGXrdSign/Rev2 > Ishiwatari worked on GGBegin > Ishiwatari was consulted GGStrive* > Ishiwatari co-directed

Please Note* that Strive only "partially accepts" the previous events of Xrd and Rev2 as canon... so in a sense Strive is its own self-contained canon at this point (even taking previous games in to consideration).

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If I had to review all GG games out of 10:

GG1 > 8/10 GGClub > 4/10 GGXPlus > 8/10 GGPetit (1 and 2) > 7/10 GGX1.5 > 6/10 GGXAdvance > 7/10 GGXX > 8/10 GGXXReload > 7/10 GGIsuka > 8/10 GGDustStrikers > 5/10 GGJudgement > 7/10 GGROA > 4/10 GGSlash > 8/10 GGXXAccentCorePlus > 9/10 GGXXACPlusR > 6/10 GGTangent > 5/10 GG2Overture > 6/10 GGVastEdge > 2/10 GGXrdSign > 9/10 GGXrdRevelator > 8/10 GGXrdRev2 > 8/10 GGStrive > 7/10 (may increase if it improves)

BONUS:

GGXrdRev0 (Mod) > 9/10 (may increase if it improves) GGStrivePlus (Mod) > 8/10 (may increase if it improves)

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Not a lore question but, if you had to make a moveset for Asuka R. Kreutz in Strive, what would you make?

People have asked this several times before, but simply put Asuka is a powerful Magic user.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect out-fighter tactics like that of Nine=the=Phantom, Mu-12, or Nu-13 from a character like Asuka.

That said, much of his “theme” from how he fought in GG2 Overture suggests he lets two satellite bits called “Proteus Universe” do the heavy work for him, by setting them around him either as a barrier or to fire energy beams in various complex arrays.

In addition, the way he was engaged as a “hidden character” in GGVastEdge, suggests his fighting style is that of an “author” or “scripter”.

In that style he used a pair of giant hands to manipulate his opponent and keep them away from him, but used a magic pen and book to create various objects in space to keep the opponent busy.  He would sometimes make the book grow in to a giant wall and slam it on them (like closing the book on them).

But, as we also saw in Xrd, Asuka has the power to alter the “rules” of physics itself and turned Sol’s Punch in to something far worse than an atomic explosion.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he could flip his opponent upside down or disorient their controls or make it so that they can’t use certain attacks during the fight.

All this and more is something we could expect from someone like Asuka... he’s just that powerful.

But of course, Sol will have to plan well in advance if he has a chance of settling the score!

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Hey, is the Steam version of Guilty Gear XX #Reload any good?

Hmm, unfortunately, I wouldn’t actually recommended it, as it’s an early PC port, and the polish is not so great compared to later PC versions of GG games.

I state this because it was early on when the game was made and much like the PC version of GGX, it lacked a lot of the things the console versions were known for in terms of quality.

The same is actually true of the PC version of BlazBlue Calamity Trigger, sadly.

If you don’t mind keyboard-like inputs, framerate drops, display issues, etc...

I would say Guilty Gear Isuka is actually a much better game if we’re talking/comparing early PC GG games.

Otherwise (beyond PS2/Atomiswave/Dreamcast emulation) I’d say Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R is the best you’re going to get on a PC.

Beyond those (if you’re a console purist) your best bet would be to get a PlayStation 2 for that era of Guilty Gear titles (especially given that basic GGXX had all the same content more or less of #Reload, but because of Prototype Robo-Ky became a slightly different game).

It’s your call to make.

Here’s a quick rundown of what to expect of GG titles:

--GG1 (the holy grail, good luck finding a disc of it, emulation might give you better luck, otherwise get the PC/PS3/PSP/PS4 versions) --GGX (easier to find, but doesn’t have GGXPlus content, has a mediocre PC port) --GGXPlus (Japan only, uncommon, but worth getting at some point) --GGX1.5 (does not exist on PS2, Atomiswave exclusive, emulation’s your best bet) --GGPetit1+2 (Wonderswan exclusive, again, emulation’s your best bet) --GGXAdvance (GBA exclusive, emulation, seriously.. it’s a hodgepodge port though) --GGXX (uncommon since most versions became Reload, if you want Proto Robo-Ky though, get it) --GGXX Red Reload (early patched Reload, rare to find, not sure if you can obtain it) --GGXX Blue Reload (most common, has the most ports and versions, but imho the PS2 version is the best compared to anything else) --GGXX Korean Reload (uncommon, but also worth it to a collector if you want a fresh take on GG voice acting, or just like the Korea Colony stage) --GGIsuka (easy enough to find anywhere, but each port has its own quirks, PC version has stage glitches, PS2 version has color issues with A.B.A., take your pick, otherwise it’s a good game) --GGDustStrikers (not recommended, but I suppose you can find an emulated NDS port of it somewhere) --GGRoA (mobile phone port, extremely hard to find, not that great though) --GGJudgementReload (PSP exclusive, not too hard to get, but emulation is probably a safer bet, PSPs are harder to find these days) --GGJudgementSlash (Uncommon Japan PSP exclusive, emulation’s your best bet) --GGXXSlash (Japan PS2 exclusive, if you want Prototype Order-Sol, this is the game to get, but I still think a PS2 emulation would save you the effort in looking for the game) --GGXXAccentCore (any version of this is full of game-crashing glitches and funny stuff, if you play it, play it for laughs) --GGXXAccentCorePlus (most common on PS2 for its time, you’ll have a more stable version if you get the U.S. or PAL versions) --GGXXACPlusR (does NOT exist on PS2, actually started out on PlayStation 3, PS3 version is the most unstable version in fact due to stage glitches and other problems... PSVita might be more stable, not sure, but PC version is probably the best version of this game, especially since the audio upgrade and GGPO netcode improvements) --GG2Overture (the original XB360 might be fun to get for purists/collectors, but in fact the PC version is much more stable and has all the DLC content baked-in, so PC is your best bet) --GGVastEdge (if you’re a collector, I would recommend investing in the Pachislot machine itself, but otherwise you’ll need a Japanese iOS account to get the mobile phone port of this game) --GGXrdSign (original version was on PS3, but the graphics were nerfed badly in that version, so in fact you might want the PS4/PC versions.  The PC version is basically a copy-pasta of the PS4 version, right down to the goofy DLC text that no longer applies to the game!  XrdSign has an uncommon English dub, so that makes it a gem worth adding to your collection). --GGXrdRevelator/Rev2 (PS4 version is considered optimal because all the DLC was eventually baked-in, but the PC version is still very good, albeit the display options aren’t as “large” compared to XrdSign’s.  They basically went for stability over huge display options, which is good.  Netcode isn’t perfect, but stable enough for some rounds.) --Guilty Gear Strive (the PS4 Beta was.... mildly amusing so far... the background stage graphics could’ve used a few tweaks though, I didn’t see any slowdown/frame drops in battle, but it took a very long time to load between fights as I recall, so they’re still optimizing it quite a bit yet.  Purists who want physical copies will probably go for the PS4/PS5 versions, but I’ll stick with the PC version, mostly because of the support I expect it will get in that version.)

And that’s it.

I have a halfway decent gaming PC, so right now I’ve actually made a few comparisons between the games via emulation and Steam ports if you want to see it.  I would say, for older ports of GG titles, a PS2 emulator will serve you well, unless you’re a physical collector.

I have my “holy grail” (GG1 disc and GGXPlus DX edition) so I’m pretty content with just owning those for the most part, but you might consider checking out the Dreamcast version of GGX for collector’s sake... there might be a few easter eggs in that version.

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Hey man! I’m interested in playing Guilty gear X/XX for the story, arcade endings and playing casually. Is there a specific version of both I can play that has all of the content/characters and arcade endings instead of playing all of them? (Also has there ever been a reason as to why the X games have complicated names (X,XX, Reload Accent Core, Plus, R) It’s one of those things that is a tad stupid but at the same time kinda awesome and cool as well! Thanks as always man! Keep on rocking bro!

If you just want a recap, you would do well to read Sumeragi's Manga.

But if you have plans on revisiting all the games strictly for the story, here's about what you might expect:

GGTML(GG1): Best bet is a Steam/PS4 version of the port.

GGXPlus: Has a story but it's Japanese and PS2 exclusive, you might want a PS2 emulator for this one.  Otherwise just read the GGX Script that Ed Chang wrote ages ago.

GGXX: I get the PS2 version simply because it has a prototype of Robo-Ky, otherwise, again PS2 emulation is your best bet.  This is the vanilla unpatched version of Reload, but it has the original Story Mode, but if you want to compare it with Reload, at least get the best version of Korean Reload (again PS2 emulation).

GGXXAccentCorePlusR: PC GGPO version is currently the best incarnation, it has Accent Core Plus' original story included, so you're not missing anything from earlier versions and you can even switch back to vanilla Accent Core Plus in the game's options.

GG2Overture: again, best version is on PC/Steam.  Story is tricky to clear, but if you're diligent you'll get a good experience.  The actual story is a bit different from the Manga adaptation, so keep that in mind.

GGVastEdge: Japanese iOS Pachislot game, only collectors would bother with this one, it barely has a story to speak of, and is strictly Japanese.  Not worth it if you ask me, even compared to GG2.  I wrote a summary of it a while ago, and Xrd Sign talks about it briefly anyhow.

GGXrdSign: Get it for the English Dub and the unique stages.  Get it for over-powered Bedman as well.  It has its own story and is different from Rev2 by a lot.  PC version is best, don't bother with the PS3 version, but PS4 if you can't find another way to get the game.

GGXrdRevelator/Rev2: Latest game in the series, do I need to tell you to get this?  PC version is probably the best incarnation.

GGStrive: Not out yet, but get the PC version anyway.

There's also three novels, 2 manga, and several drama CDs, they're mostly side content, so you don't really NEED to know them, but I have tags for each, read my GGTags tag.  There’s also Isuka, Judgement, and Dust Strikers, but those are side stories too.

As for why the games have their respective subtitle names... it's a reference to several bands and terminology in music.  Read the GG+Titles tag for more on that subject.

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Forgive me if this has been asked but how would you describe the Guilty Gear X time line from GGX- accent core plus? Does it take place over a few days, months or years?

If you're just talking about the Main games, that makes things easier on me. 

GG1: Fall 2180 (Month unspecified, takes place over a full day)

GGXtra: Events run concurrently with GGX events, prior to and shortly after, so about 5 days in 2181.

GGX: January 2181 a few months after Lightning the Argent took place, takes place over 2 to 3 days.

GGXX: February 2181 appromixately 2 weeks after GGX takes place, takes place over 2 days.

GGIsuka: a few days after GGXX, unspecific, ends in about a full day

GGJudgement: a few days after Isuka, unspecific, ends after 2 days)

GGDustStrikers: a few days after Judgement, unspecific, ends in a day

GGXXAccentCorePlusR: takes place several weeks after GGXX, so about a month or more later, May of 2181 by my estimate, occurs over 2 days or so

Butterfly and Her Gale: takes place a Year later, 2182, takes place over 2-3 days.

Sin Kiske: is born May 31st, 2184 (3 years after Ky met Dizzy in 2181), he is later adopted by Sol on December 31st, 2184 and will be raised by Sol 2185 onwards.

GG2Overture: The Baptisma 13 incident happens in 2186, unspecified month, but lasts over approximately 3 days.

GGVastEdge: Takes place a few days after Overture's events, unspecified, lasts about a week when Sol takes down Bardias in Harden Fortress (he later uses the Flashing Fang he found to rebuild his weapon in January of 2187). (Unseen Sign runs concurrently with VastEdge events.)

Elphelt Valentine: born December 25th, 2186, several months after Overture and VastEdge take place.  She is given her mission and blends in with humanity (causing a ruckus when she meets Ky and warns him of the events to come).

Ramlethal Valentine: born June 3rd, 2187 (6 months after Elphelt) and is given her mission to interact with the Conclave and set things in motion.

GGXrdSign: Core events take place in October of 2187, ending in approximately 1 month.

GGXrdRevelator/Rev2: Begins a week after Sign, lasts a few weeks in to the end of November, early December 2187.

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is it true that sol carried junkyard dog mark 2 in a guitar case in vast edge?

1. There is no official concept art of any sort of Guitar Case, let alone one specifically for the Junkyard Dog Mk.II

2. That thing is far too big to fit in your typical Guitar Case, so I highly doubt it.

3. None of the animation cut-scenes I’ve seen indicate Sol had a Guitar Case of any sort (I don’t own the game itself, so if someone wants to prove me wrong, feel free).

You might’ve mistook the Junkyard Dog itself for a Guitar Case, based on its size and shape.  Also the fact it transforms might also support that illusion as well.

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"(Not)Sol Fakeguy"

Someone requested I post these on my blog for archive reasons (don't ask why).

Still, it's a nice UE3 demonstration from Junya Motomura showcasing Sol's VastEdge costume.

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Do we have any info on the musket-like weapon Ky uses in Vastedge?

Beyond the fact it fires long range Lightning spells like a sniper-rifle, it has no official name that I am aware.

Sorry, but that’s it.

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Is Millia ever shown employing those magic handguns that she has in Vastedge during cutscenes or battles?

So far, nothing beyond VastEdge itself (which is a rather quirky title to begin with).

In the Prototype, Millia was known to wield knives, and hides a dagger in her hair in Silent Force.

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Even though they were not in Xrd, what were Jam, Bridget, and Zappa doing in Guilty Gear Vastedge besides annoying Sol and Sin?

Nothing especially, beyond being annoying.  Sorry, but their storyarcs just aren’t that big compared to the main events leading up to GGXrd.

Jam was last seen working towards paying off her loans on the restaurant, with Bridget working with her.  I’m sure they caught wind of the bounty on Sol’s head, since they’re both technically bounty hunters on the side.

Zappa was last seen put in prison for his antics, and may or may not have been let out by Faust, depending on how the story is told.  He’s still suffering from his evil spirits as usual.

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Does Aksys have any plans to localize Guilty Gear Vastedge into English?

Outside of mentioning the game itself in the GGXrd Library, that’s about the extent of anything they’ve done for it.

Also, I don’t think America has a big market for pachislot cellphone games… iPad/iPhone perhaps, but that is up to ARC System Works.

Why don’t you e-mail them and ask for it?  And while you’re at it, ask for a PS3 port of GG2 Overture.