#For Emmrich's immortality
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zundely · 21 days ago
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Bioware, why your white guy companion does get to exist separately from his skeleton son add-on that players can kill for a tear-jerker moment , but the black guy needs to die with his flying dog?
And if you went ahead and stated that you thought the death of the flying dog would be more impactful of the two rather then death of Davrin, honestly the best companion in the cast (whose whole quest revolves around survivors guilt and finding new things to live for) couldn't you at least let my man live regardless? Or at least have enough decency to not talk about him in the interview as if he is the add on part of this duo? Please?
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sorbriquette · 26 days ago
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Emmrich trying to tell Rook that as a lich he'll be a skeleton and he's afraid of what that means for their relationship: ...
Rook:
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yappacadaver · 1 month ago
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Crazy wild shit man
#how are we straight up accepting the emmrich romance lich choice for how it’s written#does anyone feel me#hello???#no one else can see the inherent tragedy in this?#maybe I’m too mort ass pilled but um. trading away your life to escape death is no life at all#and why can’t rook be like. you killed yourself and took yourself away from me and now you have no skin for me to caress and no warmth for#me to share and though it’s still your consciousness you’ve a) gained a perspective I can never ever share and b) you have accepted#outliving me so thoroughly that I will be just a drop in the bucket of your life even if I get another good 50 years out of life.#why can’t I ask him is all this worth it without your heart????!??#why can’t I break it off?!!!???#why do I HAVE to celebrate this choice#emmrich volkarin#dav spoilers#and that’s not even getting into the philosophical questions surrounding fear and what it means to live like.#emmrich… has ocd. and I have no doubt that those fears are truly debilitating (despite this almost never coming up in the narrative)#and essentially this choice is one about how to deal with it. acceptance vs avoidance. and we see no consequences for either!!!#if he chooses to accept this fear as a part of him and work through it WE SHOULD SEE THAT WORK#he should struggle!! and that struggle should lead him towards making peace with that fear#AND!!#if he chooses to escape from that fear— to actively avoid ever resolving it— we should see him struggle with that too!!!!#molding your entire existence around this fear to the point you embody it… where are the emotional consequences for that!?#WHY DO I— AS SOMEONE WHO SUPPOSEDLY LOVES HIM— NOT GET ANY OPPORTUNITY TO PUSH BACK OR ASK SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS?!?#in a game about the tyranny of immortality… we can send our beloved to kill his mortal self to come back as an immortal husk.#and we’re not even allowed to be sad abt it the very next scene is some goofy cartoon shit at the lighthouse where every single person just#immediately accepts this reality and has no issues. not even taash 😭
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veilkeeper · 1 month ago
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Act 3 Emmrichmance: Lich Edition
alt title: if you're really determined, "'til death do us part" is only a suggestion
okay so, after the point of no return some pretty major stuff happens in the romances. @/crossdressingdeath and i talked in DMs about how, as far as we can tell, all the romances have some sort of unfinished business going into the endgame. in the lucanismance, it's him cutting rook off from saying they love him, in the davrinmance it's a discussion about davrin's fear that one of them is going to die just as he's starting to imagine a future with them, and with emmrich it's The Argument™—which as i've discussed before, is emmrich and rook having an argument about his insecurities. in the lich path, which is what i'm specifically talking about here, the argument is about his concern that rook is going to die at some point, and his fear that he's going to mourn them forever. the argument is left unresolved after some pretty intense back and forth, where rook calls him out on pushing his insecurities and fears onto them, and they have to shelve it to head to tearstone island.
to their credit, they do try to apologize to each other. in banter on tearstone island, emmrich very clearly regrets starting an argument, but he and rook both agree that now isn't really a good time and that they'll talk when they get home.
and then rook almost dies in front of him and gets thrown into fade jail by solas.
uh oh!!!!
if this isn't the manifestation of all his fears, i don't know what is. for all intents and purposes, he has lost rook. he's sure they're alive—trapped in a prison meant to hold gods, but alive—and since he's a lich i have every confidence that there was not a moment of rest in the weeks it took to rescue rook. he's their fade expert, he's the best equipped to find them, and he has to, because otherwise the last real conversation they had was an argument he never got to apologize for, and he will have to live with that guilt for an eternity.
i really have to wonder if he ever would have been able to bring himself to stop looking for them.
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and while i suspect their LI is always the first person to grab a hold of rook to pull them out of the fade, there's a special flavour to it when you're romancing emmrich. knowing that he's probably been obsessively trying to find them. the sheer relief he must have felt when he reached through the veil and was able to get his hands on them, to pull them through and back into the safety of his arms.
he fusses after them, too. urgently takes them to the necropolis so he can be extra certain that solas' hold on them is gone. he was afraid he'd lost them forever, he wasn't going to waste any time making sure they'd be as safe as they can be. and then he says,
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"I will let nothing part us again, my love. Not in this nor any other world."
he says it in that level, sort of indulgent tone that he says all his romance lines in, so it's easy to mistake this as him being poetically hyperbolic. but let us never forget that this is the man with such a profound fear of death that he became a lich just to avoid it. he's not half as well-adjusted as he likes to appear.
when he says he would not let anything separate him and rook again, he is dead fucking serious.
he wakes them up at dawn despite knowing they need rest—i think, perhaps, because it isn't enough to have them breathing in front of him. that he needs to hear their voice and have the reassurance that they're here and real and alive and safe, at least right now. "I would move the world before I lost you again," he says later. before the final fight against elgar'nan, he says he has plans he wants to make with rook, that he wants to be safe and at home with them. if i had to guess, i'd say rook i going to have a hard time shaking him for anything after this. i don't think he's ever going to feel like they're safe if he can't see them. hope you like a clingy boyfriend.
it's kind of the inevitable conclusion to what i was talking about in my sacrifice of souls meta—none of his actual fears around death and dying and grieving have been addressed, and he's hitched his wagon to immortality. and now that he's almost lost rook, he's realized that there is no universe where he's ever going to survive losing them for real.
and we all know the lengths he's willing to go to stay alive.
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inthebeginning-rebellion · 1 month ago
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Anyway my google docs are a mess right now but this I liked and this I will share.
Fade Birth
feat. she/her Rook and a romanced Emmrich.
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He’d lived so much longer than he anticipated.
Fifty-two had seemed ancient, the decade and change gap between himself and Rook a yawning, gaping chasm of guilt and fear. By sixty-two, the fear had waned, and the grey speckling Rook’s hair and the way she complained about her knees bridged the gap most humorously. Seventy-two had come along compliantly enough, and had been spent consoling his beloved at her finally having to hang up the massive warhammer she simply could not swing the way she once could. Sword and shield, she groused, did not have the same ‘oomph’. The cane came around eighty-two, and he found he did not mind it so much as he may have once feared, especially when Rook gifted him an elegant bone and bronze one, carved with flowers and a skull atop the handle.
‘You look very distinguished. And you can hit people with it.’
He was still giving lectures and traveling back and forth from the Lighthouse and the Necropolis at ninety-two, his bibliography tripled from now almost forty years of partly residing in the Fade. Many conversations with spirits, the dead, and study of the Fade itself had left him with a variety of theories on longevity as a cause, and he began to wonder when, precisely, he would pass. He was still sharp of mind and wit, if more tired and inclined to sit than he had once been. He could not do nearly half the things he had once done while traveling with their companions on a quest to stop the gods, but his plants flourished and his career was storied. Manfred had begun attending his own adventures- never quite the linguist, he had become remarkably adept at magic in a way no wisp he had ever heard of had. He was a being of great depths, read voraciously, and had assisted in his own world-saving venture some decades ago that left Emmrich and Rook speechless and stunned. A wisp of curiosity, a man grown.
Each night, he had a cup of tea and Rook’s hand in his while they watched the mysterious depths of the Fade pass them by at the Lighthouse.
Glorious tranquility, eternity laid out before him.
At one-hundred and two, as per his request, Rook entombed him in the center of his study at the Lighthouse. A carved stone garden and gilded placard, his skull resting on a pedestal in the shape of an open book. He’d long wondered where he should put himself, if he should be put to rest with his parents, but as Rook had once said to him… Stories were about change. And so he was interred at home, where students could seek him out if they so wished.
She was struggling in her own advanced age, decades of hard combat and abuse to the body. Still, she often took his skull in her arms and climbed the staircase to sit on the balcony with him, to watch the Fade as he’d so loved to do. She talked to him, sat with him and conversed with Manfred.
He could not say, but he heard it all. Some spark of the man beating within the bones. Sometimes Manfred looked at him so intently that he thought for certain there must still be something there. Interesting, to have that thought. Obviously, there must be a remnant that Manfred could see, since that remnant could think enough that it might be there.
And so there was.
Rook died not too long after he did, a year or so later, sitting on the balcony with his bones and two cold cups of tea, one half sipped.
Quite suddenly, as the love fractured within that beating spark, he was standing there with his own skull. He felt old and young all at once, lines of life and death stretching out in eddies and waves out the window and all around him.
Not without her. Never without her.
Emmrich reached down and grasped her hand, and he pulled the way he had pulled decades ago to pull her from the Fade prison. Whatever energy he had grown here latched onto the dying embers of her own and empowered them, infused them, blew them into a roaring inferno as he dragged Rook out of her corpse and into his arms.
Glorious, to swing her around once again. Laughter bubbled into weeping into euphoria.
They stood before their own remains, luminous and starry-eyed.
“Emmrich…?”
“Darling.”
“Where… how are we-?”
“Oh my dearest, let’s not think too hard on it.”
She glittered with laughter, lines smoothed away by whatever soul tether the Fade had seen fit to gift them. He wondered if he looked younger than when they had met, or if, perhaps, they were seeing each other the way they held each other in their minds. In their souls? Perhaps the Fade, living here, had simply allowed them to imprint onto their remains in a method that went beyond what transpired at the Necropolis. This was not demonic and it was not a haunting, it was light and simplicity.
“Well… we can think on it later. I admit I have theories.”
“Oh my love, of course you do.”
From below there was a rattling scramble, boots on wood, and the guttural rasping cry of Manfred.
"Knew it!! Saw you!! Missed you!"
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halffullboxofjuice · 1 month ago
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Definitely spoilers but I gotta talk about my biggest regret in my Dragon Age Veilguard playthrough:
It really says something that even though it hurts I don’t regret choosing Harding (leading to her death) or choosing Treviso over Minrathous. All my choices felt at least right in the moment.
But I will forever regret making Emmerick a lich. Not because it’s an unfulfilling choice, I’m really glad I could give him Lichdom, BUT I KILLED MANFRED AND I’M A MONSTER!!!
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draydelion · 1 month ago
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Days ago I played the end of Emmrich's personal request. I did NOT recover.
WHAT A DIFFICULT DECISION, I SWEAR I CRIED ALL DAY. Luckily I was at home and was able to send my boyfriend audio messages of me crying and explaining how much I love Emmrich and my skeleSon and how much it breaks my heart.
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the-mad-owl · 28 days ago
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I pray that for every "Lichdom is actually Emmrich's bad ending" I see I get a beautiful fucked up lich Emmrich fanfic in return <3
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melkyt · 29 days ago
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Hhhh all this "Manfred is our son" has me wild during the romance, like so cute
Imagine though if Rook gets prego!
Emmrich is already a mess on the subject of his own mortality, but if he is going to leave two children. Not just Manfred who he no doubt might see one day in the fade itself.
No this is a mortal child that he needs to be there for but he's old!
Rook watching him run around in a panic over the idea of them having a baby, trying to tell him that he's not that old and they will do just fine, as soon as they mess up the gods.
Emmrich comments on how he would love Rooks confidence (*ah the confidence of the young*)
Rook just shrugs 'Hasnt hit me yet or whatever*
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starplatinumnun · 1 month ago
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talking emmrich down from becoming a lich because if i die then he's dying too 😍 #speakingfromtheheart
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thedragonagelesbian · 1 month ago
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Oh cyrus might go thru with lich!emmrich. Huh.
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chedelat · 18 days ago
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people saying that a better path for emmrich is to stay mortal because "he needs to learn how to cope with death" are so dumb. you do realise that choosing a lichdom for him means he won't, like, have to deal with his death? like at all? why tf would he need to learn to cope with it
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lith-myathar · 27 days ago
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#datv spoilers#dav spoilers#veilguard spoilers#okay so APART from all my issues#on my first replay i am....having a consideration#did y'all read the calling? iirc it's come up a number of times in the series but#i am not convinced that visions of dead loved ones in the fade are just spirits doing an imitation#or just manifestations of memory#in their first meditation conversation solas asks rook to convey his regrets to varric#and he KNOWS more than anyone that varric is DEAD#i am not entirely convinced that the varric we see at the lighthouse (which is IN THE FADE) is not some kind of...soul hanging around#his dialogue in the god trap also kind of hints at this#is a ghost a hallucination or is a hallucination a ghost? does it matter?#the fade. where we go to dream or to die. and sure varric is a dwarf but CONSIDER WHAT KILLED HIM#the same knife that gave harding her powers and her dreams back#so#i am going to interpret it in that way. i think varric is actually there as much as any ghost in thedas or any fade apparition.#i think it's him and that he's there to tie up the loose ends before he finishes the story#unfinished business#and solas knows that rook sees him. solas made sure of that. and sure it's probably a trick and a lie and an illusion#but he still asks rook to tell varric he's sorry. and maybe that's just the desperation of a sentimental gulit-ridden old man but#maybe even *solas* doesn't know for certain where the dead go and if they make stops before they get there#in fact it would make all sorts of sense if he didn't. spirits and the ancient elves they became are immortal and they don't die naturally#an ancient elf would probably have the LEAST idea of where souls go when they die#i realllllly need to be a fly on the wall for Solas and Emmrich putting their heads together#if any people in thedas have an inkling of all this it's the nevarrans
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clowndensation · 1 month ago
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he's not you by verite is crazy because that's literally emmrich/asa/solas if you completely ignore how the song is meant to be interpreted.
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annalyticall · 1 month ago
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So anyways I would die for Manfred
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yappacadaver · 2 months ago
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Maybe I don’t want to have my cake and eat it too… maybe I want a sacrifice to actually mean something in this game
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