#Foil!Papyrus

[lancer-fan-club-was-taken]

i'm gonna be so controversial and say that papyrus doesn't view undyne as a friend, i think he views her as a second older sibling.

[a-snowpoff]

I keep thinking the bones Papyrus has been gifting Undyne are actually quite rare, as a show of his friendship. Perhaps he even gave Frisk an extra rare one when they visited Undyne for the first time. It seemed to work for Papyrus so why wouldn't it work for the human? Besides he has a backup plan anyways, reverse psychology and an excellent escape route.

[carlyraejepsans]

i think papyrus should remember resets

as an au sure. as a canon interpretation nah.

[kkoct-ik]

i love containing multitudes because somehow both papyrus (a loud egotistical skeleton with autism) and angus (a reserved gay bear with deadface) are characters that represent me very very well

[skymantle]

thinking about chara's utter hatred of snowy and their family. what's up with that.

[sukifoof]

god thats the thing that always gets me about asgore desperately trying to figure out the pie recipe and new home being entirely gray except for the flowers. his family is gone and hes desperately trying to keep what's left of them with him and its like he really is just moving through life because it's his duty and i'm sure chara felt the same way given their. everything. and what they say at the end of no mercy. while toriel and flowey are constantly trying to relive the past and fix the mistakes they think they made.... toriel is so worried anything will happen to frisk because of what happened to asriel and chara and flowey wants to keep frisk there to keep chara from "leaving" again ... ough the dreemurrs make me emotional

sometimes i think about how flowey and toriel have the same character arc and the thing that separates them is toriels choice to embrace those who remind her of what she lost and the way flowey fully shuts everything out because of his trauma... i really love that both are shown to put up walls but toriel decides it's worth it to keep loving despite what she lost and flowey pushes away love and thinks he's a monster for a natural reaction to trauma and i just. ough. the way flowey talks about toriel and says she can't even take care of herself is such a reflection on the way he views himself and how he feels like he failed chara. his whole thing is "wouldn't it just be easier to deal with the pain of grief if you simply refused to feel it" and toriel never once stops missing her children. they're both grieving and one wallows in it and the other tries to ignore it but they're both in a cycle where they have to learn to move on and live their lives as who they are now do u guys get it (imagine i am biting my chair out of undertale autism)

[alyimoss]

horrortale king papyrus "ending", aka what happens if horror joins nightmare

i was thinking of making this into a fic or smthn but idk when ill get to that so. nevermind that im just gonna make a post. lotta yapping ahead. (word count: 1972)

so, i see a lot of people, when including horror in nightmares pantheon, say that he was either a) abducted against his will, or b) coerced by food, both for himself and his world. and i dont have much against the first interpretation, but the second… something's bothered me about it for a while, and its the simple fact that canon horror isnt that selfless. if nightmare were to offer him a deal, he would first and foremost be thinking about his own interests (he has already proven to be this kind of person in the comics).

so i instead think that were nm to offer him a deal, horror would only agree to a specific multi-part deal. and the first part? undyne's death.

we already know the whole "eating humans" thing was moreso to spite undyne and foil whatever plans she has than to help the residents of snowdin, shown by the fact that sans himself doesnt eat humans and that he urges everyone to keep this a secret from undyne and the rest of the underground. if a mysterious, powerful entity suddenly appeared and asked horror for his servitude in exchange for something he wants, a "mutually beneficial deal", i guarantee you that first and foremost he would think of undyne. of the traitor who sacrificed him "for the greater good".

and he would get that. i dont know if he would prefer to kill her himself or let nightmare to the dirty work, but either way, its not a hard thing for someone as powerful as him to do. only after his final act of revenge is certified does he think about everything else. with undyne gone, the underground would be left without a ruler, and things would likely get even more chaotic than usual. plus, they would still be left without food and without power.

i think hed ask for their CORE to be repaired or something else to be done about the power and magic situation going on in the underground first, but. i see this as something out of nightmare's range. hes not exactly a mechanic, and he doesnt want to waste time and energy getting someone who is just for another underling. so horror compromises on just food. regular deliveries of enough to feed all the monsters left in the underground. and this is a bit tedious, but still doable, and nightmare would likely agree.

but theres still one more part to the deal, and that is an opportunity to set a plan in motion.

with undyne out of the picture, someone would need to take control. and sans has the perfect idea of who.

the monster who has kept snowdin fed for years; who reported to undyne and mediated when her temper flared up; who kept up the puzzles and security around snowdin; who tried to keep the others' spirits up even when times were darkest…

thats right. he wants papyrus in charge.

i often see ht papyrus being portrayed in fandom as kind of a dope. someone innocent despite his creepy appearance and still rather incompetent. and this frustrates me because hes anything but. hunger, death, murder… all have taken their toll on him, and hes certainly not fine or completely sane. but id say hes arguably the sanest out of all the monsters weve seen in the comic so far (other than flowey and mettaton, i suppose… though mettaton is uncertain since weve only seen him in the past). hes also shown handling a lot of responsibilities, like the previously-mentioned providing of food and mediating when undyne goes too far. this applies to his brother, too, who was also known for having a temper. horrortale papyrus is still pretty cheery, but hes less idealistic, more responsible…

anyway, all that to say that 1) horrortale papyrus is horribly underrated and idk why because i love him dearly, and 2) between the reasons above and the fact that he's his brother, i think sans would consider him a perfect next-in-line. plus, all this power and respect and recognition… werent these all things he yearned for?

so before he leaves with nightmare, he does a little manipulating of the playing field. i dont know what this would be, honestly. talking papyrus up to others? making sure other monsters are aware of his capability and his kindness and his resolve? i dont know. but he does it. and after hes gone and undynes death is discovered, papyrus is chosen as the next king.

and you know what? i dont think he would want that.

because hes already gotten a taste of his "respect and recognition" via being an important figure in snowdin, and its been nothing but hell the whole time. hes exhausted. hes not one to be lazy or give up, but even a guy like him has his limits, and frankly hes probably reached them a long time ago. but the people desperately need a leader… and he cant exactly deny them. reluctantly, he agrees.

maybe a week into his rule, a miracle happens. food appears.

no-one knows where its from, but no-one can really care. "dont look a gift horse in the mouth" or whatever. the royal guard has to tear ravenous monsters away from the food in an attempt to save some to be rationed out. some guards undoubtedly succumb to the temptation themselves. but a good amount is saved and rationed. and the people look to papyrus with a new kind of reverence.

because how is it possible? under undynes rule, everything went to shit, and despite the years of promises, nothing was ever fixed. but as soon as papyrus take control, they get food, a good, livable amount of food, for the first time in years. theres hushed whispers that there must be a higher power involved. some seem to view papyrus himself as that higher power. the support for him grows from acceptance to wild endorsement. parents able to save their children thanks to the food cry and promise him unyielding loyalty. monsters who had all but accepted their deaths and met with a miracle instead fall at his feet. some compliments are backhanded: "i thought you would just be a useless stand-in, but youve actually saved us!!"

and papyrus smiles tightly at them all as panic mounts inside him. what will happen once this food runs out? will more appear? what if it doesnt?

but it does. it appears consistently, on a schedule. the people rejoice every time. but papyrus still finds himself fearing every day. barely able to rest amidst his panic. being king is a lot of responsibility, and he finds himself constantly overworking, so, so tired… but hes still putting on a smile for the public and assuring them that everything is okay.

with a consistent source of food, hes able to focus on other problems, such as getting monsters treatment for the effects of this hell that theyve been living in for so long and restoring the core. he's constantly meeting with different monsters, doing paperwork, handling this matter and that…

hes not alone. toriel would help him, i think. she knows what being a ruler is like, after all, and he is her good friend. but i dont know if other monsters, who rejected her as their queen, would be thrilled to have her even as an advisor. if mettaton is still sane, perhaps he would help, too, in whatever ways that he can. but papyrus still feels this… absense.

because his brother isnt there.

he never told anyone where he was going or what was happening. the most papyrus knows is that hes sure this all has to do with him somehow. but nothing else. not how, not to what extent. not whether hes even alive.

and for this one reason i think he would be so much more tired, so much more miserable. hes lost his only family, his support. the brothers' relationship in horrortale is pretty clearly strained, but theyre still shown to be close because, well, theyre family. theyve always been close. always helped each other. they were always there when the other needed to get something off his chest or get help. they kept a lot of secrets even from each other, yes, but im willing to bet that number's a whole lot less than the number they keep from others. what im getting at is that sans and papyrus are extremely important parts of each others lives, and one losing the other is a huge and unbearable change.

…and yet, with growing pangs of horror (ha) and guilt, papyrus finds that he doesnt know if its really much different now.

hes lost his biggest support, the one person he could tell almost anything to. but really he lost him years ago. for a long time, hes kept more secrets, done more work, put up with so much not to agitate his brother… even through his love, i think there was a mounting resentment and aversion to him… and he finds that with sans gone, he really gets about the same amount done. maybe more, actually, now with food and with toriel's help. and its a horrifying realization to him because thats not how he wants to think of his brother!

he did his best. he did help them, even if it was through backhanded and frankly horrible methods. his personality was a result of the hunger and that wound. if he was here, hed likely be more like his old self now that food is finally available. his brother isnt a bad person. he cant be, because papyrus cant handle that thought. but that resentment is unresolved. he feels abandoned. he doesnt know what emotion to feel. he prefers to just not think about it after a certain while.

and its the same with undyne. he misses her, he misses his friend. but she's been gone for years, too. when he thinks of her, he cant help but feel fear and anger. and thats not what he wants, either. he doesnt think of her, either.

and so hes left to rule in misery. roaming the unnaturally empty underground with the entirety of monsterkind praising his empty step. he has help, he has friends, but he still tries to handle everything himself. hes so tired that he doesnt even lie down because he doesnt know if he'll be able to get up. hes so stressed. even though they now have food, he barely eats. his eyesockets seem to sink somehow deeper into his skull. for the leader of a people finally recovering from devastation, he looks like hes only getting worse, and really he is. every day drains him more and more, and though he pushes himself to persevere for the sake of the people, he doesnt know how long he can go on.

doing what he thought was best, sans doomed his brother. if he ever goes back to his au to visit or something, he would see that first-hand. i think he'd struggle to accept it. would just run away. try to convince himself that he did what was right even as the guilt burns at his ribs.

this deal turns out more beneficial for nightmare than horror. nightmare gets a servant and a new source of negativity through ht papyrus (and though it would also spread a lot of positivity, i think its so little when compared to the whole mutliverse that nm finds it an acceptable trade and that some "positive" feelings, like the kind of god-like reverence some monsters in horrortale have for papyrus, are actually quite negative and feed him still), and horror gets to better his underground by sacrificing the only monster he probably bothered to care about: papyrus.

anyway. horrortale king papyrus. thats it thats all im gonna say goodnight

[lynxgriffin]

Since we've got plenty of time to reflect, who do you the Knight is? (I'm very much hoping it's Papyrus)

Okay! So! 

While I uh, think that Jaru is super wrong on almost all his theories, I've got one major exception where I think he is correct, and that’s the identity of the Knight:

(This is kinda long, so going under the read more)

Namely, that the Knight is Gerson’s soul tied to a particular object and brought to life in the Dark World. Although for me personally, I’m going to tweak that idea quite a bit because I think it can actually tie in really nicely with my current theories on Ralsei’s identity and nature. 

We keep getting little references to Gerson brought up here and there in both chapters: there’s a drawing of a turtle monster in the abandoned classroom, done by Alvin. It’s presumably either Alvin himself or his dad, Gerson, and I’m guessing it’s the latter. We have books written by Gerson in multiple places, a memorial bench for him, and then Alvin’s conversation about him in the graveyard by his headstone. Alvin also mumbles something about “did I do the right thing?” to Gerson’s grave. As long as you initiate a conversation with Alvin, the game makes sure that you don't miss that extra bit, which is a little telling.

We know that Gerson was originally a historian, and then later turned to writing fiction, and wrote a beloved fiction series that fans still send his family letters about after his death. 

What do we know about the nature of the Dark Worlds? They’re basically imagination and fantasy brought to life. While they certainly seem to have a full history outside of what we experience, with characters that remember each other even from other Dark Worlds, they’re only “given form” when a dark fountain is opened. Any Lightner with determination can stab the earth, and a dark, inky substance can spew from it and give a world of fantasy its own form. The Darkners frequently talk about how Lightners give them direction and purpose in their lives.

So…question! How many of you have used a fountain pen?

I have used those before. They’re quite sharp, and using them very often feels like scratching or stabbing the paper. Black ink spews forth, and from this black ink…you can create whole worlds of fiction! Worlds that other people can interact with! 

We know that Gerson wrote beloved fiction well into his old age. What if he knew his time was coming, but still had stories to tell? What if he didn’t want to stop? Alvin says how his dust was sprinkled on a hammer and buried in the earth, and that this is considered the appropriate monster cultural ritual for helping a soul pass to the afterlife. But Alvin also appears to have done something that is still really troubling him. Maybe Alvin, either at his father's request or based on his own wants, didn’t actually follow the appropriate cultural funeral rites, and somehow helped his father’s soul attach to a different beloved object…a fountain pen that he’d use to write down his story ideas. And if that object gets brought to life with a dark fountain, you could get the Knight: the soul of a writer, filtered exclusively through their favorite writing tool, unwilling to stop creating.

I think it would make sense on a few logical and thematic levels:

It explains how the Knight is able to get around and open the fountains: the same way that Ralsei is able to do the weird things he does. They’re both Darkners carrying Lightner souls, so they can bend the rules.

It explains Queen’s insistence that Lightners are the ones that can create fountains, while King hates Lightners but seems to fully trust the Knight…a Darkner with a Lightner soul can meet both those people's expectations.  

It sets up the Knight as a foil to Ralsei: they’re both the same kind of special Dark World being, both believing that they are fulfilling their roles and serving the Lightners, but coming to vastly different conclusions about how to do that. 

It explains the Knight’s motivations: not that he’s actually trying to destroy the world or anything, but that he’s trying to serve the Lightners. He knows very well how much joy and positivity his fiction has brought to Lightners in the past. How could more of that be anything bad? This is his purpose, what he was made to do. Not doing it is virtually unthinkable.

And I think that in turn keeps him following in the footsteps of how Toby usually writes his villains…rarely if ever fully malicious, but utterly convinced that they’re doing the right thing, or that they have no choice in the matter. 

And of course that ties in with one of Deltarune’s themes: the balance between reality and fantasy. The Knight has no more ties with reality, and therefore is focused exclusively on creating more fantasy and having it supplant reality, upsetting the balance between them. 

And this is extremely speculative, but I've been thinking about how Toby mentioned that chapter three will be a bit of an odd one out, that it's more about trying weird things than advancing a lot of plot. Kind of an interesting thing to note since Kris just made a fountain that should take us into chapter three. If the Dark Worlds are in some way shaped by the will of the Lightner that makes them, then chapter three indicates that Kris's will manifests more as just...trying out stuff rather than something purposeful. Kris makes a fountain because they really want to keep up this special hangout with their friends. But the Knight? He's making narratives.

[utdrmv-confession-box]

Transcript: I think it's really neat how many duos exist in undertale and how all of them can be read as parallels or foils for chara & asriel. Toriel & asgore are the most talked about ones but sans &Papyrus and undyne& alphys very much are so too. Mettaton & Mad mew mew are another one I've never seen talked about but I think if chara & asriel where revived their relationship would be very similar to mtts and mews one in ut

Frisk can also be compared to being the third in the trio too (napstablook, alphys w/bratty &catty, undyne w/sans and Papyrus, idk how to properly explain it but I think the analysis heads will get what I mean)

[justali-anne]

Sans and Flowey are such foils.

Like, they have a lot more in common than you'd think.

They're both trolls, they both have a sort of "silly/serious" switch (Sans' one is more obvious, Flowey switches between his "nice"/silly persona and his sadist/nihilistic self), they're both aware of timelines and resets (albeit to different extents), and then there's their connections with Papyrus. Even their introductions sound the same!

I mean, come on, they were CLEARLY intended to be foils!

You know what would be interesting? A story about the very beginning of the resets. As in, Flowey's resets. And it switches POV between the two of them, and we get to watch them slowly break down into what they are today.

Until one of them no longer cares about anyONE, and the other no longer cares about anyTHING.

That would be interesting to see.

[chacochilla]

I just remembered I have a blog and can post whatever I want fuck you Knight ramble

So to establish what we know/my HCs about the Knight. First off I think the second voice that interrupts Goner Maker and (somehow) shoves the soul into Kris was the Knight. Judging by this we can assume that Gaster and the Knight are opposed to each other. After Goner Maker, the Knight made the Card Kingdom dark world, and I believe entered it and enlisted King to guard the fountain.

After that we have chapter 2. People are generally split on whether this fountain was made the night before chapter 2, or during chapter 2, after Noelle gives Susie the chalk. I believe the latter, with the course of events being the Knight hiding in the closet, waiting until Berdly and Noelle fall asleep, making the fountain, and leaving before Susie and Kris show up the library.

Lastly some notable things. They have a hand, use a blade, Toby mentions an intro cutscene where they're the final boss looking down from atop a staircase, their fountains make their respective main bosses more aggressive and authoritarian/controlling, and are associated with 'communion'. Let's get into some candidates now

Mayor Knight is who I believe is most likely. She has motivation (finding Dess), she's already built up as scary, she has direct ties to Kris and Noelle, and her being the main antag would be a natural way to incorporate her into the main plot. Plus her being a mother could contrast the chapter 3 adventure with Toriel and be interesting for Susie given that she at the very least has a bad relationship with her parents. The Holiday family also has ties to the church, given that they regularly attend, explaining Spamton's [Communion] and the Knight's ties to the Angel. It would be a little odd of her to put the red soul into Kris. From what we know, she's a cold woman who's had a falling out with the Dreemurrs, but even then, hard to imagine someone doing that to this kid

If it turns out she isn't the Knight, it's a little hard to see how she'd come into the main plot. I suppose she could be introduced in a church or Holiday manor dark world. She could also come out to lead the town during the Roaring. I think regardless of where she comes in, her introduction will establish her as a cold person who asks a lot of Noelle.

Dess is also a potential Knight candidate. She has stronger narrative relevance, also has an established connection to religion, would make a great foil to Kris, has strong motivation in wanting to return home. It's also just really easy to see the twist that Noelle's sister was the villain all along. That said, it's a little hard to imagine how she could make fountains around Hometown if she's stuck in the code. I suppose it's possible she's like, sparking fountains from another plain, and they're just appearing in the Light World. It's also a little odd the fountains made from her will to return home would make darkners more aggressive. Her meeting King wouldn't make much sense, unless her being in a different plain made her appear like an actual otherworldly presence, which I guess could work.

If it turns out she isn't the Knight, I think she could still serve an important role alongside another candidate. To put it into Undertale terms, I think the Knight would be like the the Asgore equivalent boss we hear about throughout the game whose actions are those that actively cause conflict within the story, while Dess will be more like the Asriel equivalent, or the final boss who's kinda in the background the whole time. I would prefer this set up over Dess just being the Knight because I like more characters than less, and Dess' plot importance is assured.

Papyrus is a candidate you see around a lot. He has almost zero connection to Kris, Susie, or Noelle, but he does have connection to Gaster, which is the main reason he remains a plausible candidate in my eyes. There's also been a couple potential nods to Papyrus Knight in recent official stuff. He has some motivation as being a friendless loser who'd create dark fountains to feel like a hero and befriend darkners. I do think it's a little weak as a motivation though. It's not something I can see him willingly risking the apocalypse to do like with the Mayor or Dess' possible motivations.

He also has already had the spotlight in Undertale. There are a couple mysteries surrounding the skelebros that haven't been answered in UT, which could be expanded on in DR. Especially with the implication they world hopped to Undertale.

If he isn't the Knight, I can see his hangout session Sans asks you to go on could serve plot importance by foreshadowing Gaster stuff, especially if Gaster turns out to be their dad or brother. In that way it could be similar to Onion San's weird quest. If not, it could also just be an optional side quest with not much larger plot importance, like the Mettaton side quest.

New character Knight. This is predicated on the idea that the Knight isn't supposed to be some big Whodunnit for the fandom, and that they just are their own character. I mostly enjoy this option because of my desire for ther to be more characters rather than less that I mentioned above. Dess, the Mayor, Papyrus, your preferred candidate, they are all going to exist regardless of if they are the Knight or not (Besides Oberon Smog or Undertale Chara lol). But if the Knight is their own character, then we get all those guys, plus another guy. This by definition has no evidence, I just think it would be cool

Quick rapid fire round

Gaster: I think it's unlikely because one of the only things we probably know about the Knight is they are on the opposite side of Gaster

Kris: Judging by King's non reaction to Kris and how I said I believe the chapter 2 fountain was created, I don't think they are possibly the Knight. Also I think there being an active antagonist alongside Kris struggling with the player is more likely than just focusing on the latter

Asriel: Explicitly not in town, and also you already had a game where you were the antagonist. Get outta here. Go Asriel, shoo

Any other Undertale character: Same issue as Papknight, except unlike him they don't have gaps in their story to tell, aren't world hoppers, and don't have ties to Gaster. Bad

Multi Knight: Cope

Vessel: Ehhhhhhhh maybe??? Though given that the Roaring was prophesized, I assume the Knight existed before Gaster tried to intervene, which the Vessel didn't

Alvin: Unlikely but it could be neat. Would make Berdly's death hit harder considering his working with Alvin's sister

Catti: I can maybe see it. Would be cool if the Knight was someone in Kris' class. Though I dunno if I can see her being the person in that cutscene Toby dream of

Gerson: Incredibly unlikely I think

Third entity: Would complicate the simple dynamic of Kris and the player, and would also erase a lotta Kris' agency in a way that makes the plot less interesting

Geno Chara: I don't think Deltarune is going to be Undertale 2

Geno Chara possessing Kris: See above two

Final verdict

I think Mayor Knight is the most likely candidate. I'm also gunning for new character Knight. Pap Knight and Alvin Knight would also be neat even though I don't think they will happen

[reginalusus]

I feel like people trying to justifying 'hating' Spamton usually come up with the one of the two excuses: "he's so popular, I'm just sick of him," - which I think is a very silly (albeit innocent) reason, sorry - or "he's not interesting or significant enough in the game to warrant the popularity."

I disagree.

For the record, before I continue, I couldn't give less of a fuck if you don't like him, lmao, you do you, BBG (why are you looking at my blog in the first place? You'll die of vex! I'm a big ol' simp). There are popular characters in other media I also don't like but I don't have the time or energy to go around boasting why I dislike them. Reality is depressing enough, I'd much rather focus on stuff I actually like.

Anyway.

While I do agree that Spamton probably isn't major in terms of the entire canon of Deltarune, I feel like there's so much nuance to him that it's kind of incredible. People seem to forget about the sweepstakes.

I don't need to go into his backstory. We all know about that and it's one of the main draws of him. He's a tragic, relatable, timeless character, and while his popularity will wane while we enjoy the other chapters, I still feel like this fandom will still love and talk about him, much like how the Undertale fandom still loves and fixates on Sans, Papyrus and Mettaton in particular. At least, I will, lol. And this is coming from someone who doesn't get attached to characters easily, at all. Not to this extent.

Anyway, continuing on with the 'nuance, interesting' point:

I've spoken about this before, time and time again, but the fact that Spamton is a direct foil to Kris, knows about souls, knows about how this world works (and is horrified by it) just seems pretty major to me, IDK. That's not even delving into the sweepstakes.

I know the whole interaction between Spamton and Noelle is kind of speculation, so I'm just going off what I've seen and read what other people have discussed in regards to these two here:

The idea that Noelle and Spamton have spoken to one another and have (maybe) discussed Dess (speculatively), is just mind-blowing to me. Dess still has a huge question mark over their head. We don't know anything about them except that they're missing, but the fact that Spamton knows some stuff (speculatively) because of Noelle just... I don't have any words. The fact that Spamton thinks Noelle is the Angel (something we know is important in the lore) is fascinating to me.

Perhaps Spamton is just a stepping stone to what other secret bosses may elaborate on in future chapters. Realistically, that's probably the case.

But Spamton himself and the dynamic between he and Kris will ALWAYS stick with me, no matter how good the other secret bosses are. The Snowgrave Spamton fight has a permanent burn mark in my brain. I will never get the image of Kris being canonically traumatised by this man out of my head.

The fact that Spamton was sort of the first character to reveal the existential horrors that the world of Deltarune entails is remarkable to me. Yes, Jevil sort of did it first, but nowhere near to the extent and depth Spamton did.

Anyway, self-indulgent discussion over. I hope we do see our beloved salesman again (we probably won't, and if we do, it most likely won't be until the end). I know he's just chilling in Kris's pocket right now with Jevil. But I have an image that in Chapter 7, we'll see all the secret bosses again. Maybe.

Maybe we'll get a cutscene sort of like the True Pacifist cutscene at the very end of Undertale, where we see all the monsters enjoying their new lives above ground. Maybe we'll see the secret bosses be happy. Maybe we'll see Jevil reunite with Seam. Maybe we'll see Spamton finally making it as a salesman again, and reconnecting with the Addisons. IDK.

Anyway, can you tell I fucking love Spamton.

[carlyraejepsans]

Reverse Unpopular Opinion on Undyne?

genuinely incredibly fun character. i love how she both compliments Asgore's crushing idolization and mirrors Toriel's idealism and savior complex, while all the same foiling both of them as a presence in the story. people grasp her purpose as a breakdown of the mythological hero type character, but they don't usually go further than that, and i think it's a huge pity!

not to mention of course the way she was physically made in a lab to bounce off of Papyrus' dialogue. they have such good chemistry together, i don't think i could ever tire of seeing her on-screen

[fmsdraws]

Poker Nights at the Omega Timeline idea, take two

And this is where What is Poker Nights at the OT? Basically the premise would be to, much like Poker nights at the Inventory by TellTale, have 4 characters sat at a table and watching them go back and forth as you, the player, are sat with these characters on a off-the-clock basis playing a good game of poker. But instead of well-known characters from franchises colliding, it'd be Undertale AUs. And instead of the setting being the Inventory, it'd be in the Omega Timeline's very own Grillby's.

I'd tossed a few ideas before for what a hypotheticaLL roster could be, and I think I've generally hit a good balance here.

@invertedfate's Mettaton (BOX or SPIRAL, pick yer poison— I thought box could be funnier) — What's better than a fairly famous robot superstar coming down to a run down bar to avoid papparazis? But even out of the camera, his acting skills come in handy, he can bluff his cards real good. (… While originally I was going to go for Papyrus, I kinda feel the likely more raunchy route of the conversations would likely take would leave him with very little to add to conversations.)

@xtaleunderverse's XGaster — The high 'n mighty came to demonstrate his superiority with this fairly pointless game of cards. Instead, he's going to become the butt of the joke. He's prone to placing his eggs in a basket made out of conjectures, and paying the price for it.

@tatatale's ALIVE — The scientist was invited to this tournament, and she decided to finally come out of the woodworks at the request of her friends. I think she'd be very fun as a foil to the other characters at the table. Her experience with Multiverse stuff would offer a fun foil to the high 'n mighty XGaster.

@potoobrigham's Growthspurt Asriel — Nothing like developing a gambling addiction on early adulthood, eh? He's the more lowkey of the players at the table, because he didn't expect the tournament to be this... out-there. Probably the friendliest, but he has a habit of fumbling even good cards.

CORE!Frisk would be working as the host/bartender/card dealer, occassionally chipping into conversations, and overall just making sure everyone is playing nice, with a side of snark.

I'd imagine conversations would go for a variety of topics, from the mundane, to the out-there topics of the multiverse.

If I ever take this any further (and really, there's no guarantee I will) I'd make it a fairly long edited video with voice acting talking through the conversations, or something among those lines. I wouldn't make it a game, but I think it'd be fun as a concept.

But what are YOUR poker table guest ideas? let me know.

[thechildoffandoms95]

mini comic mainly on hc's about dust (transcript +rambles under cut) (as usual, I'll consider drawing/rendering the comic completely if it get's 30 notes) dust + phantom papyrus belongs to ask-dusttale horror belongs to sour apple studios nm belongs to jokublog killer belongs to rahafwabas

Rambles: I feel like Dust would be pretty horrible at taking care of himself- and that seems to be the general consensus of the fandom, but I think he'd also purposely dehydrate himself so he doesn't cry. Why? A) if he finally understands his delusional killing wasn't actually helping he'd probably think he deserves to drink water/cry and/or B) if he's still in the delusion. He doesn't want the others to think he's weak/ doesn't want to admit he DOES feel bad about everything, instead he wants people think he's fine and doesn't feel anything (kind of like Killer, in a way) . And I feel like he'd cry if he started drinking water- because if you're dehydrated enough you can't cry, but once you start drinking enough water it'll start flooding out and your body will try to regulate your stress with excessive crying. Another thing this does is make Dust and Killer a better foil to each other. I personally think they'd make great foils to each other! And I just haven't seen anyone do that (me personally I have not seen it- please don't cancel me..). I'm planning to make another minicomic explaining/showing why they'd be great foils to each other, but the main reason is because they share almost identical lives, but they see both the player and their actions very differently. I also generally feel like he's a smoker- I can't explain why, but it matches his constant dusty appearance, so instead of it just being dust (because let's be real- after a couple washes in the laundromat there wouldn't be any more dust since Nightmare's against killing and most people assume Dust's world is completely abandoned by the player/destroyed) it's also smoke ash. And it would help him seem less emotional. Hence, why I gave him some wobbly text, heavy smokers tend to have a more gravely/scratchy voice because smoking damages your vocal chords. PSA TO NOT SMOKE!

Another thing about Dust's world. I don't really get why people think it gets destroyed? Maybe it's somewhere in the cannon askblog that I haven't seen yet, but from what I know I don't think it makes sense- since it kinda seems like the human just gave up because he became too hard to beat, so he's just been waiting ever since. And it'd make more sense if he kept visiting every once in awhile to see if the human came back to reset the world or to have one last fight- because if such a goal driven person like him is suddenly stripped of the ability to fulfill the goal after so much sacrifice there would be no point to life anymore unless a new goal is reinstated to him. That's where I personally believe Nightmare would come in and tell Dust about the emotion balance that needs to occur for the best life for all au's (which is true, since he can only speak the truth) to which then he'd ask Dust to keep being a 'hero' in a new way- by helping him spread negativity. Of course, he'd keep the detail that he's actually way more powerful then Dream out of his explanation.

As for why I chose to have Nightmare transform into Toriel second/last instead of Papyrus- I think Dust would be a little more numb to Papyrus affecting him. While yes, that's what drove him over the edge and manifested into his main hallucination- he's been living with phantom papyrus for much longer and would likely have grown less susceptible to Papyri's (is that the plural form?-) suggestions/words. So, the second closest to Sans would be Toriel, firstly because in Undertale he spends the majority of the true ending dialogue with her as they playfully text each other. The other reason, the main one, is because the opening for the cannon (and I believe first?) dusttale fanfic starts with them talking to each other (unless I translated it horribly wrong :skull: .. i hope not).

Some other hc's I put in here is Nightmare knowing Dust has the phantom papyrus hallucination- that seems to be a general thing for most people in the fandom though. Building on that- because he knows he'd come to the same conclusion I did in the last paragraph. I also see a lot of people make Nightmare really nice????? I don't think he would be, personally. He wants to make people as miserable as possible to feed himself- he's also selfish (I mean he's as jaded as they come and jaded people are usually pretty self serving) and would probably treat everyone shitty enough that they feel annoyed, but well enough that they give him what he wants. You may argue that him scaring Dust into drinking water is tough love, but I think he'd do it mostly because he needs his subordinates to be able to do his work- and if they're dehydrated, they're not going to be able to do it. On a much sweeter hc, I think Horror would treat Dust like a younger version of himself (I mean he is in a physical sense- and also Dust is more Undertale-cannon adjacent then the other sans' in the gang in both looks and dialect) which would be somewhat brotherly, so he'd try to give him some water bottles if he notices Dust's feelin a little dizzy or if he's just passed out. And other sweet and cute stuff that Dust would greatly appreciate. Transcript: Horror: "ya passed out again. how bout some water so we don't dew that again?" Dust: "thanks, pal" H: "nah, no prob."

"drink up, man" D: "yeah...." shut -- tp---tp----tp wobble wobble

click click Nightmare: "Not going to accept his gift?" crunch- D: "i did" "just didn't want to take a splash

just yet." click click fwoooooo Nm: "well..." "Let's put it this way,

(mimics Papyrus' voice/font) SANS || HOW CAN YOU SAVE ME? || (mimics Toriel's voice) || * or even || ||* me?|| ||* If you keep passing out, old friend?||

waggle waggle

Nm (reg voice): "Your monthly visit 'home' is in a week."

D: ". . ."

"c#nt" ~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~ "yeah... you're worth the tears, bro." "you always are..."

[wherethejournalroams]

My journal that I started doing! My friend, @book-of-arts04, got me this journal by Papyrus. It is really pretty, with an embossed cover and lined pages with gold foiled edges!

I did a poll in July. Most picked "Other (Comment any suggestions)" So.... I decided to just make the journal full of:

Random entries

Random doodles *made a mistake when writing that in the journal, which is why there is a red box🤣*

A few stories maybe

Ideas for characters (maybe)

I am probably going to make them all random 😄