#Fingon: they're adults

[thetiredprometheus]

Fingon: what a beautiful night. It's me and you, and you and me just us-

Fingon: and Makalaurë, Tyelkormo, Carnistir, Curufinwë and Ambarussa

Maedhros: yeah, I couldn't find a babysitter

[alcafrach]

Maitimo: *is just happy that Fingon finally arrived in Himring*

Findo: *is insanely happy to see Maedhros*

Tyelko: You two are too small for this

Amrod: wow •o•

Amras: wth, has he ever been able to smile like this???

Curvo: WHAT HAVE I TOLD YOU? WHAT HAVE I-

Makalaure: Shut up, you, stupid thing! They're just hugging!

Upd: timeline here is a bit messed, 'cause to the moment Maedhros was rescued from Àngband his brothers were all adults and one of the Gingerheads was even dead... but I wanted to draw little Ambarussar badly so I ignored some canon facts)

Heyyy, here we go into another fandom! Now I'm stuck in Tolkien's Middle Earth badly and make fanart (instead of preparing for my biology exams, yeah...)

[arafinweanappreciation]

I hope this doesn't annoy you but I saw your post about Finarfin interacting with his babies like they're small adults and became obsessed with it (change my life so much bro). I hope you don't mind but I want to ask for more fluff/headcanons about the House of Finarfin, especially with the fact that you went with the Orodreth-son-of-Angrod (I love that shit) so now I am desperate for more.

ajsldkjh thanks???? also don't worry. i don't get anywhere near enough asks for them to be annoying lol

Olwe lovingly handcrafted a beautiful cradle for his great-grandchild but it basically never gets used because Orodreth is constantly either being held by someone or in a sling on someone's chest

Finrod has a particular tendency to steal him for hours at a time. it's his first nibling and he's a little excited. Angrod and Edalote have trouble getting him back sometimes

"i need him back, it's time for him to have a bath" "i can do it" "give me my son back ingoldo" "would you deprive him of quality time with his favorite uncle?????? 🥺" "favorite? he can't even walk yet-"

i would say that Earwen forced her sons to take their little sister with them everywhere when they were younger but in reality they willingly toted her around all the time. sometimes to activities (e.g. hunting) that their parents would prefer she didn't participate in just yet *cough cough* AEGNOR *cough*

Finrod is in fact Galadriel's favorite brother most of the time but if anyone tells him this she will Stab them

Finrod might be more nerd than jock but if anyone makes fun of him over this they will face his siblings' wrath because they're the only ones allowed to do that, of course. go after Turgon all you want tho (lying. you will still get beat up)

tbh the Arafinwean household just wasn't that loud growing up, but there's a still a distinct difference between quiet time silence and mischief silence (TM). finarfin can detect it in approximately 0.3 seconds. still not fast enough sometimes

that first part doesn't hold up in beleriand. Finduilas has LUNGS and she considers it her Eru-given obligation to use them. Fingon thinks it's cute. he isn't the one raising her

one of the reasons Angrod and Aegnor like hanging out with Fingon when they're younger is bc he's older than Finrod and can therefore override his "safety concerns," whatever that means lol. it's the cousin equivalent of knowing mom will say no and going to ask dad instead

Galadriel is the cool aunt who enjoys spoiling Orodreth and later Finduilas whenever possible. like okay yeah maybe her parents don't want her going down to ivrin by herself yet or whatever but how much could it hurt really???

after she has Celebrian she realizes she might have a few apologies to make. still not very many. they asked her to babysit they trusted her to make decisions at their own risk.

prank wars with the nolofinweans

just. consider eldarin prank wars. they could last for centuries

[thateviljewler]

Is this it...?

Is this how I make posts?

I feel like my granny fighting with emails... Literally dunno how to tumblr. Anyway, I'm Katriona, she/her, adult nerd. Made this account months ago to look at pretty art, but might as well make something of it.

Larp is my passion so i might post some ocs or costumes I make. Sometimes I do cosplay as well.

Currently back to Silmarillion hell. That being said, I might or might not throw my silm shitpost on here, be it memes, headcannons or whatever else.

Back in my teenage years I used to do (not only) Silm rp on instagram and am very tempted to go back to that on here (insta was toxic af 💀). I'm not a native english speaker, and though I can understand pretty much everything, I'm not that good at writing unfortunately.

I'm a Mairon kinnie so he's my main muse ig, but can do Thuri, Gothmog, Fingon, Tyelpe and Celegorm as well. I don't mind trying to write other characters, but it'll be my first time and I don't have as many headcannons for them

If anyone is willing to rp with me (1 on 1 or group, both is fine), pls hmu.

Also is there some kinda tumblr etiquette? I don't see a lot of comments on posts, is that normal on here? Which tags should I use to have reach but not litter the tag boards or whatever they're called? I'm so confused lol

[the-elusive-soleil]

Thinking again about a Silmarillion TV series, and how I would set it up if I were High King of Hollywood and also copyright law (long post):

Let's say we have a three-season setup. Three Silmarils, three acts, and everyone making and watching it knows there's a predetermined endpoint. No spiraling out into infinity, no matter how popular it gets. And I'll roughly hazard ~8 episodes per season; that seems to be the average amount these days.

Will there be whooping great battle sequences? Probably. But as is my wont, I'm focusing more on the ~interpersonal drama~

Season 1 would start off like I've posted about before, with Finwe telling the Ainulindale as a story to kid!Feanor, as a segue to bringing up the remarriage, and then a post-opening-credits cut to Feanor as an adult. We're in the very early YT 1400s. In the first episode, we're laying a lot of groundwork for a Normal Day in Tirion. Various members of the House of Finwe are introduced, and we get a sense for the familial and political landscape. Everybody seems to believe that life is completely perfect--and then there's Feanor, who knows it's not.

And then the news comes that Melkor is being released on parole.

In the next couple of episodes, we see reactions to this, through dinner-table conversations and such in each of the three households. People are tense, but...for the most part, life goes on.

Except for Feanor, who gets an Idea and eventually unveils the Silmarils.

Through part of the third episode and escalating through the fourth, we start to see Melkor stirring the Noldor up. They're making weapons, and the political tensions are starting to get higher. The different sets of Finwean cousins are training with swords and such, and coming up with increasingly thin excuses to each other as to how they picked up those minor injuries.

Episode four ends with a bang, as Feanor's sword incident and banishment occur.

Episode five jumps five years ahead to the festival in Tirion that Feanor's supposed to go to. We get the "jail-crow of Mandos" scene in flashback as he leaves the Silmarils behind. Everything seems fine on the surface, but the background music keeps slowly increasing in tension, and everyone's happiness is just a little too frenetic--and then the Trees go out.

Next episode, we get the Oath, the Flight of the Noldor, the Kinslaying, Losgar. (We're keeping the version where Amrod lives btw.)

(Side note: I think it would be very cool if we got little flashes of foreshadowing that gradually escalate as time goes on. Give me shots of Maitimo's right hand that linger just a little too long. Give me Maglor or Curufin in an early episode, talking about upcoming wedding vows that bear a suspicious resemblance to what the Oath will be. Give me Finrod wrestling with a family dog; give me Turgon and Aredhel teasing each other about his love of cities and how she'd rather die than be kept from running wild. Give me Feanor by firelight, Feanor being gently reminded by Nerdanel that he doesn't have to rush ahead and tackle a dozen projects all at once, Feanor insisting over and over again that things need to be written down and portrayed and preserved because nothing is really, actually permanent...)

Episode seven cuts back and forth between the people struggling across the Helcaraxe and the Feanorians in Middle-earth. The Feanorians fight orcs and lose Feanor, and the Helcaraxe group has their own battles with ice monsters and also the sheer. horrible. cold. Maybe we can have Fingon and Turgon and Aredhel arguing about the Feanorions along the way. Maybe we can have the argument cut short by Elenwe falling through the ice. Maybe we can have that lead Turgon to reiterate that the Feanorions are Doomed and have doomed everyone else with them - and then cut to Maedhros about to ride out to parley with Morgoth.

The episode ends with the Nolofinweans mourning Elenwe, and Maedhros being dragged out to hang from a cliff.

Season finale starts with the Nolofinweans arriving. There is most definitely an emotional, sweepingly epic sequence of the Thangorodrim rescue, the stuff edits and gifsets are made of. And we end with Maedhros ceding the crown, and with Fingolfin's coronation.

Season 2 starts with the Mereth Aderthad, which gives us a chance to catch up, via dialogue, with how everybody's been settling in and what they're planning to do next. We also get the skinny on Thingol and Melian and Doriath. (Luthien should definitely be mentioned at least once.) (Celegorm should definitely be in the shot when she's mentioned, although 50/50 whether he visibly pays attention or reacts.)

We get Finrod and Turgon's dream sequences and them discovering the places where they're going to put their respective cities. Also Artanis meets this Guy...

Dagor Aglareb is probably an episode 2 thing. After it, and after any significant conflict this season (attack on Hithlum, Glaurung, etc.), there should be someone assuming out loud that they are now past the worst of things. Bonus points if there is fire in the background of the shot when the person says this.

We meet Dwarves. I think the optimal way to handle the Dwarves-and-Caranthir thing is to have them be very blunt and no-frills with each other, and leave it up to interpretation whether this is actually them getting along.

Finrod, of course, is so very (gestures demonstratively) Finrod at his Dwarves, and also at the Men when they show up.

(checks timeline) Maeglin is born in YS 320, and he and Aredhel flee to Gondolin in YS 400, and Andreth is born in YS 361. I think it could be interesting to start out an episode with Aredhel being snared and having Maeglin, and interspersing creepy Nan Elmoth stuff with Aegnor/Andreth and Athrabeth stuff. Towards the end, Finrod has a conversation to the effect that it's not just that Aegnor and Andreth's romance was doomed, it's that they're all doomed here (possibly referencing the Amarie situation) and there is no way to have a good love story under such circumstances. And then, of course, we have Aredhel and Maeglin running to Gondolin (and Maeglin meeting Idril) and the deaths of Aredhel and Eol.

I have less of a specific outline for this season, because I want a lot of it to be filled up with...just Long Peace stuff. I want to see the Noldor having their Beleriand Renaissance. I want to see hunting trips that give us beautiful sweeping shots of the landscape, and glittering social events laced with politics, and little moments of relationships between different characters.

Basically, I want this season to make it very clear just how much stands to be lost here.

And then, of course, the season finale is the Dagor Bragollach, culminating in Fingolfin's last stand against Morgoth.

Season 3 opens with the utter chaos that is the aftermath of the Bragollach. We also get to meet Hurin and Huor and see their visit to Gondolin, which contrasts so sharply with the state of things literally everywhere else.

The first episode also introduces us to this random human guy named Beren, out there in the wilderness. And it ends with him stumbling on something in Doriath...

Second episode is just ~*Beren and Luthien*~. It has a very cultivated fairytale feel, right down to the lighting and the music. The world we just saw last episode is so very harsh, but not here, not now. There is never any doubt that there will be a happy ending. And there is! The episode ends with their wedding.

(...and distant wolf howling but don't pay attention to that)

Third episode has the wolf hunt. Beren dies. Luthien goes after him. They both come back. They don't really explain themselves to anyone, and I'm leaving the details mysterious. Luthien singing to Mandos should probably be treated like the Ainulindale in that we don't attempt to make humans portray it. What we do see are the beginnings of fallout: as Luthien and Beren come back to life, Maedhros is wrangling with his brothers. As Tol Galen is settled, as Dior is born, Fingon and Maedhros start to plan the Union, and it's hovering in the background that they need to do this because with the Oath, the only other option is going after the Doriath silmaril, and they're not doing that.

Episode four is the Nirnaeth, and it. is. devastating. If you read the book (and maybe even if you didn't), you know this isn't going to work. But the characters really believe it will! And the music and cinematography are fully conspiring to make you believe it too! There might even be some leitmotifs from the Thangorodrim rescue during the battle to suggest maybe it will turn out this time... And then it doesn't. It was never going to. It was always going to end with trampled blue and silver banners and broken bodies and the sons of Feanor scattered in the wilderness and Hurin chained in a chair to watch his family suffer.

Episode five should be 50% Children of Hurin, and 50% Tuor's story, cutting back and forth for maximum contrast. We go directly from Turin and Nienor's deaths to Tuor and Idril's wedding.

Episode six is all Fall of Doriath, starting off with Hurin showing up with the Silmaril, escalating through Thingol's paranoia and death, and ending with the Second Kinslaying. Bonus points if there is a very subtle Girdle of Melian leitmotif that has been in the background for all Doriath scenes so far, and abruptly cuts off when Thingol dies and Melian leaves. And we end with baby!Elwing being taken through the woods with the survivors, clutching the Silmaril.

Next episode is the fall of Gondolin. I would really like for there to be a specific leitmotif throughout the show for people (Maedhros, Fingolfin, Hurin, etc.) defying Morgoth, and for it to initially emerge for Maeglin...only to break down. And throughout the episode, Eol's theme keeps getting stronger and stronger, until it fully emerges when Maeglin falls.

We end with tiny!Earendil arriving in Sirion and seeing Elwing, and the Silmaril, for the first time.

This season is going to have to be nine episodes long, because what's left might take up one Silm chapter, but I have too many things I want to do with it. Specifically:

Episode eight opens in the middle of the Third Kinslaying. I don't want it to be dramatic like the other two. I want it to be frightening in its banality. I want it to be very, very disturbing how habituated the Feanorians are to this now.

When Elrond and Elros first appear...something shifts. It's not really like the world-apart, fairytale vibes of the Beren and Luthien episode, but there is something Different about these kids. They're who this whole violent, convoluted story was meant to produce. They're going to build a better world someday.

We spend most of the episode going back and forth between Maglor and Maedhros doing their best to raise these children in a world that is falling apart at the seams, and Earendil and Elwing in a Valinor that is almost unsettlingly pristine after the past couple of seasons that we've spent in an increasingly entropic Beleriand. I want M&M and the twins to camp out in ruins of a place that was built "only" a century ago, and Elwing to wander through a building that she assumes is brand new and expensive, but is actually very average and older than the Silmarils.

At the end, the Valar authorize an army, and we see Gil-Estel rise, and the War of Wrath begins.

Most of the final episode is epic War of Wrath stuff, definitely including the slaying of Ancalagon, definitely also undercut by comedy relief bits of people trying to guess who Gil-galad's parents could be. (It's never revealed.)

In the last third or so, Maedhros and Maglor steal the Silmarils.

When Maedhros takes his out and looks at it, he sees himself as he was back in Valinor, perfect and whole and unbearably innocent. We have this whole golden-lit mini-flashback sequence of him and Maglor just messing around at home, teasing each other. Their brothers are in the background. They are almost unrecognizable.

Maglor glances in a mirror and it shifts back to him in present-day, face twisted in pain and screaming at the Silmaril's burn. Maedhros startles, notices that he's burning, too. He doesn't scream, although he's clearly in pain. He just reaches over, gently brushes the Silmaril out of Maglor's hand and onto the ground, kisses his brother's forehead, and then stands and with a great deal of outward calm, walks over the edge of the nearby lava chasm.

Maglor weeps and can't stop, but he has to when footsteps start approaching. He flees to the shore, and flings the Silmaril in, and stares for a very long moment at the water like he might dive in, too. But then he just turns away with an unreadable expression and vanishes into the fog.

The last moments of the show are spent with Gil-galad and Celebrimbor and Elrond and Elros and Galadriel, talking out what they're going to do now. The world didn't end, but their world sort of did. What do you do with that? What can they possibly build from the ruins around them?

They have to try, is the one thing they all agree on. If they give up, what was even the point of everything in the last 600-odd years? And in any case, they can't possibly do any worse than the mess they and their predecessors just lived through.

Right?

[sweetteaanddragons]

Hi

Huge fan of your writing here. I was wondering if you had any ideas for a sequel to your ‘A Question of Precedence’ AU. No need to answer if you dont feel like just my imagination running wild lol but i was curious about how Feanor meeting Fingolfin, Finarfin, Lalwen and their wives and kids would go down. I imagine it would be strange to meet you brother who died as an infant (something which caused your father a lot of trauma and grief) as an adult with a wife and kid. What was their opinion on Feanor before Finwe was slain and Feanor reborn. Did they ever feel like their father loved them less?Would Feanor + siblings get along better in this AU or just about the same ? What was it like for Finwe to die and meet his son and ex wife only for them to leave to live with Vaire ? What was it like for Findis to raise her famously chaotic brother? Are they close? What’s it like for Indis to lose her husband and have his dead child brought back in his stead and then have said child raised to be king a title which previously belonged to her children. What would the relationship be between the sons of Feanor and their cousins ? how is Feanor viewed by those that stayed in Valinor and those that left especially after he chose to aid his kin in Beleriand.

This got a bit longer than intended so again no need at all to answer i just love your writing ❤️💕

Thank you so much! It took me a minute to remember that AU - it's been a while!

(For those who also don't remember, this was my AU in which Feanor died as an infant when Miriel did. All of his half-siblings except Findis still end up going to fight in Beleriand; Findis stays and ends up raising him when Feanor is released from the Halls. Feanor, for his part, ends up leading the reinforcements to Middle Earth.)

I think meeting Feanor is definitely strange for the siblings that went to Middle Earth, especially because of the circumstances. They are used to thinking of him as a Tragedy™, not a full grown force of nature riding to the rescue.

I do think they'd get along better in this AU; a Feanor raised reasonably well by Findis is not going to be raised to resent his siblings, and the attachment to his father that he was so afraid of the others usurping is going to look very different here. He also isn't worried about competing with the others for the crown; Findis raises him to know that it's his as soon as he's old enough, and the others aren't there to fight for it.

His relationship to Indis is still complicated, I think; she knows Finwe chose to remain dead in order to give him a chance to return, and part of her does resent that, but on the other hand, she's ashamed of resenting a baby for anything, especially that. The issues between her and Findis regarding Indis's perceived abandonment might actually cause as many issues between Feanor and her as the remarriage does.

For a long time, Feanor's sons have no relationship with their cousins, for obvious reasons. This changes with Fingon's resurrection; they are very, very eager to get to know him, and he is very, very eager to encourage them to go fight in Beleriand . . . though he feels a bit guilty about that. Whatever their actual ages, he can't help thinking they're too young to be dragged into this.

Once they get to Beleriand, their surviving cousins have an interesting mix of "Reinforcements! I love you!" and . . . possibly some resentment? Because they've been fighting this war all this time, and here their younger cousins come sweeping in, all shining and golden from Valinor to win the day without the centuries of hopeless warfare. Once they get to know them, some of those relationships improve.

(Some get worse.)

In general, the Noldor in Beleriand see Feanor as a hero and a particularly shining symbol of hope - if even Finwe's long lost son has returned, surely all darkness can be overcome! The ones in Valinor see him as less of a symbol, but he is still their respected king (though there might have been some dissent about showing up as reinforcements.)

[stacytea]

Let me drop some ideas that I haven't been able to kick out of my head lately

there we go

1 ) muchacho

so I've been casually doing my lessons on duolingo , when suddenly I've been blessed with this word being brought back around. Since my last encounter with this word had been while watching the movie ,,Coco" my brain quickly brrrrrrrrred and what came out of it is:

kindnap family in spanish

and yes I could say here how much I would love to see them in a setting similar to that one episode of ofmd where we have Jim's backstory and everyone is just so badass

but the truth is

what I desire is just to read a spanish fic where Mae calls teenage Elros muchacho , like idk , it's cute and feels like something Mae would say. Sure english ,kid' is nice

but muchacho @everyone

idk I've just grown to like this word a lot

basically could've just shortened it to ,Mae calling Elros muchacho' , but I'm in the mood for some ramble

2 ) ,,She stole his dog and dyed it key lime green" (from ,,The Last Great American Dynasty" by Taylor Swift")

so another idea that I bring to the table today is my favourite line from my favourite song (yes, I'm a swiftie)

now everyone close your eyes and imagine it with

Irissë

Celery

& Huan

basically story happens back in Valinor when they're still young and having fun

imagine Irissë getting angry at Tyelko because he's a dumbass (affecionate) or just wanting to mess with him or trying to win a bet with someone or whatever reason

just let's have it result with her stealing Huan for a day or a night and

KEY LIME GREEN HUAN!!!!!

by Irissë

and then Tyelko sees it the next day and falls down crying because ,,NOOOOOOO, NOOOOOOO , EVERYTHING & EVERYONE , BUT NOT HUAN, NOOOOOOO; IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ONE OF MY BROTHERS IRISSË! WHY NOT MAGLOR IRISSË?! "

(confused Maglor in the background)

two days later Celery is still trying to wash the dye off of his dearest friend ; ,,how could she do it to you? *crying intensifies

Note: no magical dog was hurt during these happenings ~ Huan didn't really mind this short change in looks

3 ) Argon and golden ribbons

here I just drop an image of little Argon braiding some stolen from Fingon golden ribbons into his hair because he wants to be like his big brother

and Fingon sees it and just melts

and this is because these moments where he feels like the big brother he is are so rare , mainly because he personally radiates this kind of younger sibling energy

Irissë treats him almost as if they were twins (they have very similar personalities and both of them are secretly dating a fëanorian cousin, just so many things in common between them) , Turgon basically took over being the oldest siblingTM in this family and he may not have told him that it's because he sucks at being an eldest brother figure, but Fingon doesn't need him to voice these thoughts to be aware of them

so yeah, Turgon steals the older brother vibe while Irissë and Fingon just vibe the younger sibling vibe together, but then Argon appears in the picture....

and by that time Fingon has grown up enough to pass the big bro vibe check

so Argon does acknowledge him as the big brother

and Argon wants to be like him

and Argon braids golden ribbons into his hair to look like him

and Argon looks up to him for all of his childhood and even a little longer

and then adult Argon follows him at Alqualondë

and Argon gets doomed

and Argon dies

and it's all because of him

and Fingon might've never agreed with Turgon's overall opinion of him not being a good older brother , but as he looks at his little brother's dead body he wonders

he wonders if Turgon might be right

(okay, enough angst for today)

(or is it?)

4 ) ,,Marjorie" by Taylor Swift

and as much as this whole song gives me the vibe of adult Elrond in Lindon reminiscing his fëanorian upbringing (don't get me started on the angst of him not being allowed to speak about his childhood openly because ,,wdym you consider those MURDERERS your parents alongside your actual parents?????? Oh you poor traumatised thing!!!!!" )

anyway

let me focus here on the

,,The autumn chill that wakes me up/ [...] / Long limbs and frozen swims/ You'd always go past where our feet could touch"

part

like

let's think about these autumn days that are awfully cold in the morning , but then at noon it's almost as warm as during cooler summer days

now let's imagine Mae taking E&E to a nearby lake , so they can learn/practice swimming

(I imagine Mae would consider swimming a potentially important survival-enabling skill and deem it important for E&E to learn it)

ofc they would have to bring a small troop with them because it's apocaliptic end of first age Beleriand and there are orcs everywhere , but still Mae bringing the kids to the lake would be a very fun ,cherished moment for all of them. Mae being tall and going far from the shore, Elros always trying to follow him without caring that water gets too deep for him, Maglor seeing this and having a heart attack Maglor repeatedly telling Elros not to go past where his feet can touch. Elros going anyway, because Maedhros is there, so even if something happens, it's not like he's gonna die dad Mae would save him. Maglor forbiding Mae from taking them to the lake because this little shit Elros is a menace to himself Mae secretly taking them to the lake anyways because ,,they NEED to know how to swim, Mags , you don't understand , what if they DIE someday due to not knowing how to swim????'' let me quote the song again ,,The autumn chill that wakes me up/ [...] / Long limbs and frozen swims'' Mae waking them up early, so they can leave before his little brother is up; and it's still quite early when they arrive at the lake, so the water is freezing And then, centuries later, in Lindon it's just Elrond and these memories because the rest of the family is dead, gone, dead

[that-angry-noldo]

‘ello o/

do you have any headcannon/au scraps of finarfin arriving at the War of Wrath scene, seeing all the finwë disaster children and starting to Dad unconsciously ? And this is the first Grown-Up thats been around for A While (cutscene to fingolfin screaming, giving Morgoth a limp, and promptly dying) so they just roll with it for lack of anything more reasonable to do

hi!!!

i have to be honest, the War of Wrath of the werewolf au isn't fleshed out At All at the moment, but here are the basics of the finweans & finarfin dynamic

Finrod, Galadriel and Orodreth: relieved to see him. you have no idea how relieved they are. which makes sense considering he's their father

Maedhros: he was quick to get assigned a right-hand man. it was a role he was familiar with (feanor, fingolfin, fingon), and finarfin needed someone with military experience to advise and/or correct him

Maglor: falls into a role of snarky bard in between his duties, which. amuses finarfin very much. finarfin values him a lot, though - maglor is his go-to person if if he needs to know a context to something, and maglor often fills him in on things the others deem not meaningful/too obvious

celegorm, caranthir, curufin - ??? neutral, probably. given they're still alive by the point

amrod & amras - mostly positive. they are friends with finrod, so finarfin definitely has a soft spot for them

fingon - finarfin is a proof his hopes weren't in vain, so i'd say it's very positive. i'm still not sure how the kingship situation would go down, but i think finno would abdicate overnight. he never wanted the crown, and he feels like a great burden was lifted from his shoulders

turgon - uhh. hmm. i have no idea actually. i have to think about it

i think these are all? worth noting though that finarfin doesn't view them as children but as competent adults who can hold their own, and they don't really think of him as of parental figure (except his children of course). he is a good leader though, and that is what they value him for.

thank you for the ask! hope that's an okay answer, and please feel free to ask more if you have any questions or ideas :]

[mentelosse]

Questions/Answers about Mentelossë

@yellow-faerie asked me A LOT of questions on the Tolkien OC discord server ! here a little transcription of our exchange to keep track about everything Mentelossë related on this blog !

Question 1 - how did Mentë and Glorfindel meet?

They met in Gondolin for sure, Glorfindel being a lord and Mentelossë being Turgon niece. However they truly got to know each other because Mentelossë was going out in secret and exploring the city, he found out and decided she needed company and safety ! They visited the city and the valley and rode horses and talked and did very dumb things while trying to make everyone else think they barely knew each other at formal events (Idril and Ecthelion are not that dumb tho, and find out pretty quickly). Mentelossë previously lived in Fingons fortress city during the siege of Angband so not very fun for a child and a young lady, so coming to Gondolin gave her a lot of freedom and she really wanted to go out and explore and meet people !

Ohhh ok neat!! I didn't know she was in Gondolin at any point (makes sense tho, considering her husband) - I imagine his death must have been super upsetting for her! Did they get married in Gondolin then or after his reembodiment?

yaaaah ;-; she almost faded after the fall of Gondolin ! But they got married in Lindon when he came back to Middle Earth, they were just dating and then engaged in Gondolin

Ohhh ok!! Poor Mentë :( Who else did she spend time with in Gondolin then? And just generally - who are her friends over her life?

She was a very lonely child, only surrounded by soldiers etc even her mother was very VERY distant. She mostly spent her time with her father when he had time or maids and sometimes Fingolfin. She took care of her little brother when he was really little but that didn't last long since when Gil Galad was sent to be with Cirdan, she went to Gondolin. In Gondolin she spent her time with Idril mostly and other ladies ! She loves to make friends. Then she goes to Sirion and stays friend with pretty much the same people. When she lives with Maedhros, Mags and the twins she grows close to them but has trouble to make friends with other feanorians there (no feanorian hate, I just hc the mood to be very very very down during this part of the story). It's in the Second Age where she meet her best friends. She really gets along with her brother (she's basicaly meeting him as an adult), Celebrimbor, Celebrian, Erestor, Cirdan, other OCs of mine that I never drew XD And she stays really close to Elrond of course ! In the third age she gets closer to the few Noldor still living in Rivendell like an OC who is a former smith follower of Celebrimbor who swore to never forge or use a sword again

Oooh fascinating!! How does she end up with the feanorians at the end of the first age then?

She went back for Elrond and Elros (had to kill an elf: traumatic event, "am I doomed now ?) Tried to attack Maglor which was brave but dumb and she did it out of anger but Maedhros managed to stop her. She used to see him very often during her childhood (guess why 👀 😏 ) and used to love him a lot.

Ohhhh complicated feelings that come from Russingon - JUICY

Also Mentelossë understands that Maedhros was NOT here only on diplomatic mission very late 😂

LMAO I'm cackling at the idea of someone just like being…real gentle and like…Mentë….Mentë Maedhros did not need to be there that much They weren't just friends Mentë

(we continue to talk about how Russingon works in this headcanon and how naive Mente was)

I also hc that there's like rumoooors about the both of them. Stable boys, maids, servants etc making dirty jokes

They're talking and Mentë is like I'm so glad my dad had such a good friend in Maedhros. And everyone is like *deep breath * TALKING ABOUT PARENTS Do Glorfindel and Mentë ever have kids, or are they a kids in the far future when everything is safe (or no kids at all) kinda couple? (also how does she get on with her parents-in-law??)

No they never have kids but they tried, a lot, because they're horny and because they really strike me as people who just LOVE children ! Especially Glorfindel ! I like it to be unexplained but in truth it's because it's something really spiritual to procreate for elves, and it can be very straining and Mentelossë's fëa is too damaged and strained by everything that happened and her almost fading. And also I think she wants children but is unconsciously afraid that they are going to live the same fate as all the children she knew, being separated from their parents or unloved however elves need to WANT children to have them.

I can't imagine Glorfindel's parents something other that SUPER KIND and happy people who like to do good around them, Glorfindel's kindness and positivism come from them ! They have a nice relationship and they're happy to have a new member in their family ❤️ I hc that they never went to middle earth and Mente meets them when she leaves for Valinor and they have a HUGE family (I need Glorfindel to have sisters.)

Ahh ok so it's kinda big and tragic - but I guess this means the both of them (Mentë and Glorfy) are the super aunt and uncle to all their friends kids

EXACTLY ! They're pretty sad in the beginning but come to terms with it when it's obvious it's not going to happen

There was also a lot more idiocies ;) Thank you very much dear for expressing so much interest in my girl <3

[between-thepages]

Not-Yet Written Fics

I was tagged by @fishing4stars, thank you <3

I restricted the ideas to my Canon Universe/the related AU, just to keep some sort of theme going. All of them have at least a sheet of notes attached, or a short scene written (otherwise the chance of me just never working on them is very high).

Lost Wives Club - The story of all the left behind (and reborn) wives and girlfriends in Valinor. Also, an excuse to write something canon-adjacent for Anaire/Nerdanel. They're the main pairing in this one.

Three truths - Finrod gets reembodied, he and Amarie get back together, and at some point, they realize that they are both in love with Edrahil (who has also been reborn). It does continue further, with each of them dealing with some sort of problem (Amarie with her research, Finrod with his family, Edrahil with his future).

The Loves of Finrod Felagund - Finrod's sexual awakening (complete with the realization that he's bi), also featuring Finrod/Maglor.

Finarfin and Eärwen getting together - what it says on the tin, Finarfin/Eärwen first meeting (meet cute? it's close I think), complete with annoying family (Eärwen), lots of blushing (Finarfin) and misunderstandings (both cultural and in general). This one was originally started for a SWG challenge (the previous two as well, actually)

Amarie and Elenwe have a talk about motherhood and being female (and infertility) - These two deserve to be friends in the first age, while everyone they love dies tragically in ME. The basic premise for this is Elenwe struggling with the way her family treats her after she is reborn, the fact that she feels she has abandoned Idril, and a lot more.

Caranthir and his wife - This will probably be more of a collection of one-shots, and an excuse for me to fangirl about my OC Gwaewiel. Is it a bit morbid that the most structured Idea I have actually concerns her funeral? Others concern the story of them getting together, and a few snippets of life in ME (Gwae is a Vanya, but assimilates into Sindarin culture quickly, mostly for the freedom it gives her)

Turno and Elenwe get married - A sequel to Beautiful like Starlight, the story of a chaotic wedding, lots of siblings telling embarrassing stories, Elenwe hating Noldorin fashion and Anaire, Eärwen and Indis being awesome.

Finwean Family Reunion (the one where Maedhros realizes Fingon is hot) - I'll just dump my outline here, warnings, it's a bit long: Feanor wants to introduce little Curufin to the family (or rather, his father), Maedhros obviously has to look after him while also being tasked with making sure the almost-adult Celegorm doesn‘t do too much shit, Maglor gets to enchant everyone with his music skills, Caranthir and Nerdanel have stayed home. They‘re greeted by Fingon, who Maedhros takes a second to recognize because he hit a growth spurt since their last meeting more than 20 years ago, and also got a lot more jacked since (He‘s also an adult now, and Meadhros is very much attracted to him. He‘ll be in denial for a few more years and hate himself over it.) Turgon is a weird kid, Finrod charms everyone (even Feanor, but he‘ll never admit that)Lalwen is everyone's cool aunt (Celegrom loves her) and Feanor almost picks a fight with Indis, and starts a real one with Fingolfin, where Findis has to save them from escalating, as usual.

The Prince of Alqualonde - More OC things, this time Alparáto, Eärwen's oldest brother, and his boyfriend.

Arrival in Nevrast - Turgon's followers after the Helcaraxe, mostly Glorfindel and a bunch of Sindar OCs (and Ecthelion), trying to work out life in Nevrast and how to communicate with each other. Ultimately supposed to turn into Glorthelion, but knowing them, it'll probably take until Gondolin for that to happen.

The ever-expanding Rivendell Polycule - Mostly an excuse to write Glorfindel/Gildor, Erestor and Glorfindel get to navigate a poly relationship in the third age. Ever-expanding because I plan to throw some Elrond/Erestor in as well.

[eleneressea]

okay here is Thoughts, expanding on the tags:

Fingolfin is the High King, Fingon and Maedhros are married and have one (1) son (Ereinion) and two (2) foster sons/nephews (Elrond and Elros).

the palace is attacked and in the chaos the adults and the kids get separated. Fingolfin dies, Fingon and Maedhros escape but Fingon is wounded, Elrond takes the three of them out through a secret passage he discovered playing hide and seek

but in the further chaos, Elrond and Elros get separated from Ereinion and Elrond sees him fall and hit his head, hard, and not get up before Elrond's dragged away

so Elrond hopes that his foster brother is alive, but has a lingering doubt that he might not be

meanwhile Ereinion gets found by some passersby, without any memories, and names himself Gil-galad

many years pass and Elrond and Elros are out looking for their missing foster brother, because none of them has lost hope that Ereinion will come back—either alive or reborn—though Fingon and Maedhros also hope that Elrond and Elros will stop blaming themselves for losing Ereinion in the chaos

and then they find Gil-galad

he doesn't recognize them, but he does have an uncanny resemblance to Ereinion, so they get to talking and find out that he doesn't have any memories of his childhood, which would explain it

so they decide to bring him to Himring, where Maedhros and Fingon have regrouped after the fall of Barad Eithel, and at least have them meet him

Gil-galad Does Not believe that he's the lost prince, and for that matter isn't too sure that the twins are who they say they are either

Elros 100% is convinced that Gil-galad is Ereinion, Elrond…wants to believe it. they're a lot alike. but Elrond also saw Ereinion fall, and there was so much blood…

travel montage in which Elros teaches Gil-galad about being a prince (it comes pretty naturally) and Elrond slowly falls in love

then they get to Himring and it's the moment of truth! Fingon and Maedhros will know if he's just a boy with a strong resemblance or if they really found him

Maedhros asks Gil-galad how he escaped. it's the one thing Elros hadn't told him, because Maedhros has never asked any of the Ereinion claimants about that, and neither of the twins have been able to speak of it

Gil-galad: there was. there was a boy who opened the wall…

Elrond, the boy who opened the wall: Oh Shit He's Real

Fingon glances over to him and Elrond just nods, tears in his eyes

and then there are Tearful Happy Reunions and cuddles and Elrond and Gil-galad kiss

The End

…but what if Anastasia AU

[sesamenom]

War of the Last Alliance Elrond / Elrond, being part Maiar. [Long post]

I imagine that the Maiar powers through Luthien's line get increasingly diluted with the generations, from Luthien actually shapeshifting, to Elwing learning to grow wings by talking to birds, to Elrond and Elros. Being only 1/16 Maia, their ability can't be as powerful as Melian and Luthien, so:

Presenting part-maiar Elrond. The most constantly visible difference is in his and his brother's hair, shifting in texture and color to match whoever they're closest (emotionally) to. However, he also has a combo move of Luthien Maiar-ness + Tuor blessed-by-the-vala-ness + Finwean Anger Boost Attack = growing wings in battle after Gil-Galad and Elendil's deaths.

Also I decided that the amazon show, of which a name is not deserved, does not exist and that my Last Alliance Elrond is way cooler than the one amazon paid a billion dollars for :)

Guide to his hair significance:

1, Havens of Sirion - Mostly Luthien-blue in his connection with his mother and twin. A golden streak represents the stories Elwing tells them of Earendil and his journeys.

2, Post-Kinslaying - The golden streak fades and the blue and purple tones dull as the twins lose hope in the Feanorian encampment, still grieving their parents' not-quite-deaths and yet to warm up to Maglor and Maedhros.

3, Feanorian encampment - While the golden streak has yet to return, as have the purple tones, Maglor's brilliant blue hair has started to shine through. Elros, the friendlier and more outgoing of the two, was the first to shift to blue-streaked hair. Maglor was the first to comment on Elrond's teenage hairstyle making him look remarkably like Fingolfin.

4, Feanorian encampment - Teens/young adults now, the twins both sport Maglor's bright azure hair glinting off Luthien's darker blues, as well as a solid coppery-red streak. Their hair has become quite wavy in reflection of both Maglor and Maedhros.

5, Feanorian encampment - Elrond switched to a long braid, now intertwined in his father's golden streak. Maedhros couldn't help but notice how he looked so much like Fingon with the golden-twined braid.

6, Lindon - Separated from his foster fathers and his twin brother, Elrond's hair straightens into a style reminiscent of Turgon's in Valinor. The gold, red, and shades of blue all remain prominent, a bold display of his heritage, biological and adopted.

7, Lindon - As he bonds with Gil-Galad (who may or may not be his much elder foster brother?) his hair begins to shift to a silvery color. The red fades quickly as he learns of Maedhros' deeds since they parted ways.

8, Lindon - His hair continues to shift to silver, yet the deep blue, brilliant blue, and gold remain. He braids the gold streak back, and now wears a traditional Sindarin hairpiece (until it gets lost at Eregion).

9, Imladris - After his loss at Eregion, Elrond cuts his hair short. The silvers start to fade, replaced by a more muted blue as he grieves for the kingdom and his adopted older cousin. The red returns as he begins to understand Maedhros' conflict. He dons a golden circlet in replacement of the Sindarin hairpiece.

10, Imladris - His hair grows out once again, and the silver streak remains, coexisting with Elwing's deep blue, Maglor's brighter shades, Earendil's gold, and Maedhros' red.

11, War of the Last Alliance - Summoned as Gil-Galad's herald, he braids back the red streak and briefly adopts a more formal circlet and hairpiece, one of Noldorin craft and fashion, the other in that of the Sindar.

12, Imladris - Following his marriage to Celebrian, his hair begins to shift to bright silver waves to match hers. The five other streaks of his parentage remain.

13, Imladris - Upon the birth of his children, his silver hair darkens and curls slightly to match their hair. The red grows more prominent as Gil-Galad's bluish-silver fades with time.

14, Imladris - After Celebrian departs and their children leave home (whether for orc-hunting or Grandma's house) his hair straightens to match the Sindar scholars he spends his time talking to. The reddish copper has reclaimed a larger space, and Celebrian's silvery white fades almost entirely.

15, Boat to Valinor - The first sign of their nearing Aman is when Elrond's hair starts to curl again, faint Maiarin purple undertones returning with the light of Valinor.

16, Valinor - Reunited with his extensive family tree, Elrond's hair shifts constantly with each new relative he greets. Eventually, it settles in a state of half-straight half-wavy, part silver and part copper, brilliant blue reflections lingering among the deep blue and purple of Elwing and Luthien's hair, and a golden braid shining every time Earendil's star flies overhead.

[tolkien-feels]

There Was Only One Videogame

An extremely non-comprehensive list of Tolkien siblings and how they cope with the dreaded Only One Person Can Play This Game At A Time Actually situation. Feel free to substitute computer game for videogame if you'd rather. Maybe LOTRO if you wanna get meta?

Finweans: Feanor and Fingolfin each have a console. Finarfin is supposed to share with Fingolfin but he just never plays

Feanorians: Left to their own devices, Maedhros would come up with a schedule and enforce it so that everybody gets their turn fair and square. But Feanor just buys every kind of consoles. 7 of each in fact. Probably codes some games specifically tailored for each kid.

Nolofinweans: Turgon watches Fingon play. Aredhel wants to play, Fingon says she's too young, she hits him, everybody gets grounded including Turgon. Rinse and repeat.

Arafinweans: Finrod lovingly watches Angrod and Aegnor take turns playing. Galadriel will glare at you if you suggest she plays

Sons of Galdor: Fighting over who gets to play is more fun than the actual game. Neither of them takes the fight seriously, it's just fun to bicker

Children of Hurin: Turin watches Lalaith, and since this is an au I'm gonna say he watches Nienor too. The girls take turns. Turin is willing to play if the girls need help beating a boss or something but he isn't really interested otherwise. Hurin thinks Turin is doing childhood Completely Wrong™️ and lowkey wishes all three of them would fight more? He'll praise them for how sweet they are, but he's privately worried he's doing something wrong and his children aren't having fun

The sons of Earendil: Never see a videogame until they're adults, and never really get into it

The children of Elrond: Arwen inherited her father's disinterest. The twins take turns growing up. Estel isn't a huge fan of games tbh but he'll play to bond with the twins as they give him advice

The children of Eomund: Everybody finds it mystifying that Eowyn would want to play. When Eomer lets her he offers so much unsolicited advice that Eowyn takes to playing only when he isn't around. Nevertheless Eowyn routinely beats her own records and should probably be playing professionally

The sons of Denethor: Boromir is begging Faramir to please play. Why doesn't he play. He'll teach him play. Please stop reading and play Faramir it'll be fun please

[iminye]

Maedhros and which of his siblings caused him the most amount of headaches because let's be honest neither Fëanor nor Nerdanel probably ever had something like a child caused headache - they're just as chaotic as the rest of their family.

Celegorm. He was and still is just the liveliest bundle of engery the House of Finwë has seen since Lalwen was a kid. It's a given that he would get out of bed as soon as his body said yep I'm well rested now which is anywhere between 4am and 6am, and for Maedhros (designated long sleeper he is) that is waaay to early. His bad that Celegorms favourite playmate before Huan came along was him. So most of his teenage days would start with getting jumped on by his younger brother, who would be demanding loudly for Maedhros to get up and play hide and seek or catch or whatever with him. It doesn't get better when Celegorm gets older but at least Maedhros has ways (volunteering to help out with court matters no matter how boring) of avoiding him by then.

Maglor. Just so loud. Too loud. Especially when he was still a baby and would wake up at the oddest hours crying for food, attention or whatever. He's probably the only one who ever caused Nerdanel a headache as well. There have been nights where Maedhros would lie awake while his baby brother would scream heaven and hell together while his parents did their best to figure out how to calm him down. And please don't let me start talking about every time Maglor was teething. He gets a lot calmer as an adult thankfully BUT he absolutely loves, loves to tease and annoy the shit out of Maedhros when he is in a particular mood. Better but not really.

Curufin. Just like his dad. Curufin is not a loud child neither is he very lively or an early bird or anything, so in theory he shouldn't be further down this list but just like dad Curufin has the tendency to discuss everything at length and he will not back down until he won the discussion. According to Indis Curufin probably is even worse than his father in that regard, worse than Fingolfin even and that is... something. Poor Maedhros is the one who would be caught up in most of Curufin's stubbornness. Valar help him if he ever finds himself in a discussion with both Fëanor and Curufin at the same time.

Amrod and Amras. As individuals they would probably the last ones on this list. Calm happy babies and children, not too loud, no early birds, always occupied, never lonely. Really the perfect dream. It's just... There's two of them at the same time and they ask questions. A lot of questions. And all of them are directed at Maedhros because he's the cool older brother who knows everything, quote Celegorm. At any given time he had two red haired shadows trailing after him which makes his secret meetings with Fingon duties as crown prince a lot harder

Caranthir. He's just last because as soon as he was able to walk and talk he just did his own thing. The don't bother me and I won't bother you sort of thing. Honestly besides Finwë Maedhros might be the only person Caranthir never yelled at. When everyone else becomes too much for him Maedhros would hide at Caranthir's favourite spot and watch his younger brother sewing. They suffer together in silence.

Honorary mention

Nerdanel. He loves his mom. He really does. But Nerdanel is a total workaholic and scatterbrain and Maedhros is 98% sure that she would have probably unintentionally starved herself to death over her work because she forgot the concept of food. He constantly has to make sure to bring her food and water and maybe get his father to drag her out into the city now and then so she doesn't like get permanently stuck there.

Fëanor. Honestly it's a miracle this man hasn't blown up himself or any of his children yet (he will but that's a matter for another time) given how many over the top and definitely not child proof experiments he was running all the time. But the thing that gives Maedhros headaches is his stubbornness and like unwillingness to even try to get along with Indis and her children. It's objectively speaking more the family drama than Fëanor that causes Maedhros headaches. The Finweans and their stubbornness...

[olderthannetfic]

Wading into the Silmarillion discourse in response to this one

Celeborn and Galadriel: I have to give you this one, but it is worth nothing that Celeborn's ancestry was changed. I don't think Tolkien said why, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the reason.

Tar-Míriel and Ar-Pharazôn: Men of Numenor; not relevant for deciphering the cultural mores and customs of the Eldar.

Aragorn and Arwen: Anon makes it sound like they're foster siblings, but Arwen was grown long before Aragorn was born and they didn't meet until Aragorn was also an adult; they weren't raised together. Also, a culture's take on foster relations doesn't imply anything about blood relations. Funnily enough, Aragorn and Arwen actually are related by blood, but you have to go back a few dozen generations on Aragorn's side for their common ancestor.

Túrin and Nienor: I'm sorry, what?? That whole mess happened because of Melkor's curse, and finding out is literally what killed them both. But that aside, they're Men, not Elves, so they're not relevant if what we're trying to decide is if Maedhros and Fingon would consider themselves too closely related for a relationship

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[bisexualmaedhros]

ok writing this under a readmore in case tumblr puts it into any main tags. i won't be adding any of them to this, but i know these days tumblr sometimes takes words from the post itself and i don't want to write every prominent name with a bunch of substituted letters or slashes or anything. so.

negative thoughts re: beleg/túrin (romantic) and russingon (romantic) under the cut

obligatory disclaimer that i can't tell you what to ship and i'm not trying to, i'm just putting my own opinions on my own blog, in case there happen to be anyone else who feels the same way. as the old adage goes: don't like, don't read.

i'm not going to say that these ships are completely unfounded, nor am i the type of person to insist that a ship have canon "evidence" to back it. i can see where people are coming from and why they like the ships.

i, personally, do not at all and they make me quite uncomfortable.

they do seem to be some of the biggest ships in the silm fandom though (especially russingon), so they can be pretty hard to avoid sometimes even with tags blocked. usually i would just avoid creators who make content for these types of ships altogether, but it feels like everyone who makes art for the silmarillion consistently ships at least one.

in other media, i'd be a lot harder on ships like these (incest with russingon and uncomfortable age gap with túrin/beleg, but i'll get to that second one later). but at least with the silmarillion they feel... less out of line than in other stories, if that makes sense? silm feels more like reading a mythology collection rather than a novel, and often in mythology there are relationships that are... not great. and i could probably write a whole separate thing about that, but that's for another time if i ever do it at all.

túrin/beleg & russingon still make me greatly uncomfortable, but they at least feel a little more tonally in line with their original work than other instances i've seen of popular incest or age gap ships in other fandoms. whatever. it's just frustrating sometimes, with maedhros being my favorite silm character, that he's 1/2 of an incredibly popular incest ship. it's already bad enough when you like a character that's part of a main ship because then it's a lot harder to find fan content for them that's not purely ship-related, but the incest thing definitely makes it a lot worse.

ok, i'll talk about the túrin/beleg thing now. usually i'm kind of a sucker for the doomed immortal/mortal stories (i love beren and lúthien!). i think the lifespan/aging thing between humans and elves can pose some complications, sure, but generally i'm okay with it as long as they meet when they're both adults. i mean, the same with humans in general— a seven year age gap between a 19 year old and a 26 year old is a bigger difference developmentally than one between a 49 year old and a 56 year old.

but the thing that makes me uncomfortable is that beleg knew túrin since the latter was a child. if i'm understanding everything, he was sort of a mentor figure for túrin? right? so i really don't like the implications of them later having a romantic relationship (or, god, i hope that at least if they do, it is actually later).

i'm not saying you should never write about fucked up situations or relationships. i'm a fan of the silmarillion, for god's sake. i'm just talking about stuff that makes me personally uncomfortable. AND. i've been thinking about it.

i may be totally off the mark here, but it does sometimes feel like these ships are kind of born out of a lot of fandom's impulse to ship whatever handsome (usually white) guys they can, rather than looking at alternatives or appreciating non-romantic bonds.

don't take this as a "men aren't allowed to be just friends anymore!" thing. what i'm saying is:

why do these relationships have to be viewed through a romantic lens in order for their intensity to be seen as justified or worthy of portraying in art?

is it not enough that maedhros and fingon be cousins and best friends, supporting each other through The Horrors despite everything? why does it have to be romantic for people to appreciate its weight?

is it not enough for beleg to be a dear mentor to túrin, one who didn't give up on him once? a friend? a companion?

the prevalence of these ships in specifically romantic contexts just feels to me like another example of how many people view non-romantic love as secondary or not as interesting. and it kind of feels like it can sometimes keep us from appreciating and building on the dynamics given to us in canon already.