#Fem!Patrochilles

[babyrdie]

Love your modern patchilles headcanons so naturally I’m gonna request some modern sapphic patchilles headcanons?

You see, I actually intended to answer the Cassandra ask and then close the askbox as I explained in my rant/post, but this anon coincidentally sent this ask on the exact day I was going to close the box (because that's the day I was going to answer the Cassandra ask, which was supposed to be the last one for a while). I could ignore it, of course, but I kind of find this little guy familiar. I'm assuming it's the same person who sometimes asks me about Fem Patrochilles, and in that case I won't reject a nice anon. Also, this person must be craving for sapphic content (I know this because this was my feeling trying to read Shinomitsu fic and Inosaku fic and finding them mostly as background couples lol) and it's cruel to deny sapphic content in this case. So I changed my disclaimer, now this is the last ask I answer for now lol

Well, first of all… modern AU is much more flexible. The tricky part of making Sapphic Patrochilles is trying to keep the mythical themes and gender roles of Ancient Greece consistent without making the characters completely unrecognizable (Phyrra is easier, but Cleopatra… there's just no way to keep her identical to Patroclus without making her completely nonsense to the world she's in). But modern AU? I think that'll be an easier job.

First of all, the context!

Considering how difficult it is to accurately translate Thetis and Peleus into a modern dynamic, I'm going to stick with the usual "they had a loveless marriage, got divorced and aren't doing well, but love their child" modern dybamic. In that sense, I imagine that Thetis came from a very rich family, and as such, she's kind of the mom who wants her kid to start doing various activities. Luckily, Phyrra was the kind of kid who was excited about doing these various activities. As a result, she's kind of the talented person, you know? She can sing, play, dance, swim, run, get good grades, etc. She was also a very active kid, always running around, climbing trees, jumping off waterfalls, that sort of thing. Peleus mostly got custody of her because, although Thetis loves Phyrra, she really hadn't planned on having kids and didn't know how to handle the idea of ​​having to take care of one on a daily basis. They still remained close, with Thetis phonecalling or video chatting daily, visiting with some frequency and discussing with Peleus over who would get to spend time with her on important dates. Peleus never remarried and preferred to simply be a single father. Peleus' best friend Phoenix is ​​kind of her godfather ("kind of" because it's not the literal baptism godfather, it's more like the person designated to help the parent). So Phyrra is kind of in that thing where her family isn't exactly ideal, but she's okay. She's not really traumatized. Phyrra also liked to visit the family farm a lot, which was managed by Chiron. In adulthood, Phyrra invested in being an Olympic runner and quickly proved to be a prodigy. This story is how I imagine Achilles in Modern AU and, honestly, I didn't feel the need to change anything from the basic ideas in Phyrra's case.

In the case of Patroclus/Cleopatra…here's the thing. My modern Cleopatra seems more like Patroclus than my ancient Cleopatra, precisely because gender roles don't confuse her story to the same degree anymore. Then we have Menoetius and Philomela, who are pretty normal. Cleopatra, however, had a temper as a child, so she once got into an argument with a classmate, Clysonimus, and when she pushed him down the stairs, there was a horrible accident. Luckily, she wasn't convicted of a crime because she was really young and it was very accidental, but it became difficult to stay in the same city with all the people staring and whispering. So they moved. Menoetius and Peleus knew each other, and wanting to have someone he knew in the new place, Menoetius decided to move to the same city. Peleus, knowing Menoetius and already aware of the situation, encouraged Phyrra to be friendly with Cleopatra. They gradually became childhood best friends and Phyrra even taught her things she learned from Chiron. Cleopatra was once allowed to visit the farm because that was where Phyrra's birthday party was going to happen that year. There, she developed a love for horses, having already been passionate about animals before. In adulthood, Cleopatra pursued a career as a veterinarian. This is also my Modern AU story for Patroclus and again, I didn't feel the need to change things for Cleopatra.

Now, let's get to the silly headcanons. Hope you enjoy!

Phyrra was a onesie kid (most of them gifts from Thetis or Phoenix, truth be told. Peleus wasn't a clothes guy), but Cleopatra was a dress kid, though she always wore shorts underneath.

Cleopatra kept her hair mostly braided. She refused to cut her long hair, but it was also a hassle considering how active she was, so the braid became her signature style. As a child, Phyrra's hair was long, but as a teenager she cut it short and decided to keep it that way for the rest of her life. She thought her long hair was beautiful because it resembled her mother's, but Phyrra decided that she still found it more comfortable to have short hair.

Phyrra and Cleopatra used to swim together, although it was never Cleopatra's passion like it was for Phyrra. Phyrra also found it amusing to watch Cleopatra take off her swimming cap because it was always shocking how you wouldn't expect her to have such long hair underneath it. Phyrra joked that it was like those cliché scenes in romance movies where the guy takes off his motorcycle helmet and shakes out his silky hair.

Phyrra initially disliked waxing because razors always gave her allergies and she refused to use hot wax. But because of her running, she felt it was necessary because it was uncomfortable to run because of the friction with hair. She tried razors again, but again it always itched and left annoying little bumps. Bravely, she tried hot wax after doing a lot of research on the application. Hot wax was a traumatic experience. When she found out about it, Cleopatra asked her why Phyrra didn't just get laser hair removal and Phyrra kind of felt stupid for not having considered it sooner. So Phyrra became a regular at laser hair removal clinics because it was actually more comfortable for her to run that way. Cleopatra doesn't shave often, but since she doesn't have allergies, she just uses a razor when she needs to.

People would assume that Phyrra's favorite type of movie was action, but she actually has a soft spot for romantic comedies and animated movies. Cleopatra isn't a movie person and usually just watches whatever the other person wants. However, she does enjoy movies that involve animals in some way, and she used to watch animal documentaries even as a child. Phyrra also enjoys documentaries, but she is more eclectic in that regard.

Phyrra doesn't wear a regular bra, only a sports bra. She also prefers boxer panties. Contrary to popular belief, she is vain, so she has several products for her skin and hair. Cleopatra kind of doesn't like it when Phyrra uses her styling cream, because according to Cleopatra, her hair is much curlier and needs the cream more than Phyrra's wavy hair. If Phyrra wants it, she can buy it!!

Phyrra sleeps with a blanket even in hot weather. She simply loves the softness of the blanket. Because of this, she usually wears short pajamas to compensate for the heat. Cleopatra usually sleeps with either two braids or a satin cap. She is the type to wear old clothes as pajamas. Phyrra is also the tactile type who always wants to sleep cuddled and, although Cleopatra loves sleeping cuddled with Phyrra, it's torture when it is hot because 1) sleeping cuddled in the heat is torture 2) sleeping cuddled in the heat with THE BLANKET is even worse.

At some point in her life, Cleopatra will have a total of 9 pet dogs. Not anytime soon, though, because for a considerable amount of time she slept in environments that wouldn't allow for that many. Phyrra kind of thought the number was exaggerated, but she could never say no to Cleopatra.

At the wedding ceremony, everyone expected Phyrra to opt for a white suit, but surprisingly she wanted both her and Cleopatra to get married in dresses. The reason is that she wanted to wear the dress that Thetis wore when she got married because she had always thought it was beautiful and thought it was a shame that it had unfortunately not been worn at a happy wedding. She wanted to re-signify this by wearing it at her wedding, which she was sure would be happy. The ceremony wasn't religious as it usually is, it was more of a symbolic event (it wasn't in a church and there was no actual priest, for example).

Neoptolemus is the product of a college pregnancy and his parents have never dated, but they're on good terms. Custody is shared, but the child is mostly with his father instead of Phyrra. Neoptolemus thinks Cleopatra is really cool. Thetis, Peleus, and Phoenix kind of spoil him.

Both Phyrra and Cleopatra wear glasses. Phyrra's are for reading, Cleopatra is nearsighted.

[johaerys-writes]

Do you plan on writing any fics for fem patrochilles? I just came across your content of them and I am OBSESSED

Hi anon!! I'm so glad you're also a fem!patchilles lover, I'm literally so obsessed with those girls 🥹 I don't have any specific plans to write them rn bc I haven't had a concrete idea for a fic just yet other than scattered headcanons, but I'm always open to ideas if anyone wants to send me prompts!

[bisexualandaninsomnia]

Sapphic Patrochilles is something that can be so precious

[kupidachillea]

Achilles x You x Patroclus hcs

Author note: This is sorta self indulgent, please be nice in the comments. I understand this isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but just be nice about it and have an open mind.💕

TW: None, this is mainly fluff. Besides the mentions of wounds and training (fighting)

-🌿 When you first meet them, it’s not really what you expected. You had moved to Greece and were staying with Chiron until he suggested that you could stay with his former students. And you agreed.

-🏺 You found yourself in their home as their new housemate. How odd, but you brushed it off as something akin to a roommate and you hoped you could get along with the two former warriors.

-🌿 At first Achilles was skeptical of you, not entirely on board with the idea of living with someone other than his companion..but Patroclus managed to get him to calm down enough to accept you as a new friend into their space.

-🏺And for the most part, things were good between the 3 of you. You mainly tried not to be a bother but also tried to engage with them every once in awhile. As well as doing basic house chores.

-🌿 Besides that you’d watch the boys train together and occasionally patch them up from their little fights. It was more so harder to get Achilles to accept treatment but he’d always give in..mumbling that your touch was “So soft..” every time you’d clean up his injuries.

-🏺Patroclus was actually quite thrilled that he wouldn’t always have to be tending to his own wounds after training (or deal with Achilles’ scrappy bandage work). It meant he could relax while you asked about how training went and how he’d respond. The boys seemed to grow to enjoy your company each week.

-🌿Not that you noticed it at first, but they’d start to do little things for you. Before they’d never really make breakfast for you but now you’d come downstairs to your breakfast already made for you and a sweet note from Patroclus to your surprise.

-🏺 Even when you stay up late nights, Achilles will walk by your room or wherever you are and frown when he sees that you’re still up. You’d give him some excuse but he didn’t care..he’d pick you up despite your protest and place you in bed.

-🌿 If you still didn’t want to sleep he’d call Patroclus and they’d both stay in your room with you until your fall asleep, ultimately causing them to fall asleep with you in the bed in a sweet cuddle pile.

-🏺At first Achilles would never want to admit that he was starting to have feelings for you, because he didn’t think it’d be possible since it’s been years..but as soon as Patroclus pipes up saying he’s developed feelings for you too- he ultimately admits it with a defeated sigh. At least he knows they’re both on the same page.

-🌿 Of course they’re both conflicted at first, but then they decide to own up to it- I mean- if they can handle the war they can handle courting…right?….right?

-🏺It’s a bit of a task but they start getting more touchy with you, sleeping on your lap or resting against your back with their weight. This obviously confuses you- and if you’re easily flustered they’ll lightly tease you for it. Achilles with his smirk and Patroclus with a sweet yet knowing grin.

-🌿 They’ve taken it upon themselves to start giving you nicknames: like “Dear”, “Darling”, “Love”, or in Achilles’ case; “Doll” or “Dollface”. At times you’ll call them nicknames too like “Achi” or “Patro”..but nothing like what they say since you’re not sure if they’d appreciate, but deep down they’re aching for you to call them a silly lovey nickname.

-🏺 At some point though over the course of the months you’ve been living with them, Achilles gets impatient and sick of you not getting their hints and they both end up confronting you just as you were about to settle down and do you own thing-

-🌿 Achilles was about ti accuse you of playing around with them until Patroclus chimed in, cutting off the words of his companion and speaking for them both. Basically confessing that they have liked you for some time now…He would look at you with a pleading gaze in his beautiful green eyes..patiently waiting for a response from you while Achilles scanned your shocked expression.

-🏺You being you, you were trying to play it safe..but seeing how serious they were about being a “Throuple” with you was not something you expected, but you eventually decided to give them a chance when you saw even the proud Achilles look at you in almost a pleading manner.

-🌿 They were over the moon- Achilles wasting no time in pulling you in for a heated kiss, his lips colliding with your and making you blink in surprise before kissing him back..When he pulled away he was grinning like an idiot.

-🏺Patroclus was more gentle, asking his he could kiss you before pulling you into his arms and being a little more passionate about it. Though he did bite your bottom lip teasingly.

-🌿 You were pleasantly surprised to say the least and soon enough they both ushered you to the sofa to cuddle and watch some movies. Achilles laying so that you were laying in his chest and Patroclus snuggling between your legs, his face resting on your chest too while you blushed and thought about how this relationship would progress.

[liltaireissocute]

making everyone lesbians again

[cceanvvaves]

-> poll duration 1 week but i'm actually just giving you guys 5 days to decide and vote (may 15th/16th) bc i'm a procrastinator

-> fandom that wins get their treat fandoms that lose get nun 😌

-> if 3 and 5 wins i'll need to put a follow up poll to decide on angst or fluff (or just put it in tags when u rb)

*check out this post to see who i write for

***IM SO BAD AT DRAWING PLEASE DONT ACTUALLY LET THIS WIN 😭

***open to anyone but i've only ever written for kate and nat 👉👈

-> june's gna be a busy month for me starting 10th so gotta start early!

i hope i don't regret this

[bisexualandaninsomnia]

Your honour I love them

turning gays into lesbians

Miss Pyrrha and her wife Cleopatra❤️‍🔥

[lady-forest]

could you draw some more patrochilles? Your pinned post is some of my favorite Patrochilles art I’ve come across. Totally ok if you don’t want to. It’s totally up to you

*hands some fem!patrochilles to you🫴💜*

[patrochillesvibes]

First of all thank you for your fic recs I love them they're one of the only things keeping me alive I love ya🙏

Secondly I was curious if you've got any hcs for fem patrochilles? (Feel free to yap as much as you want 🙃)

lol same, patrochilles is the only thing keeping me alive atp. Be sure to make it till Friday because I got another one in the queue!

~

Pyrrha 😍 I LOVE her 🥰

I LOVE to have fun with gender through Achilles bcs so many people prefer to see him as this traditional masc stereotypical hero (Brad Pitt in Troy, Thor knockoff in Hades Game), and the Skyros arc is right there 👈 What an amazing set up in the text to explore, with little stretch of canon, Achilles being a transman or Pyrrha being a transwoman 😚 We are so blessed with such fertile ground to explore gender.

I, however, do not explore gender with Patroclus.

There is this tendency for people, typically antis, to have a heternormative and sexist take of TSoA’s Pat because he GASP has feelings. way to reveal you’ve been brainwashed by toxic masculinity, nice job

Anyways, the situation is a bit of hornet’s nest to me. In addition to this shockingly incorrect take on TSoA Patroclus, there’s also this deeply concerning obsession with giving Patorlcus a vagina. Nothing wrong with twinks. Nothing wrong with femmes. Nothing wrong with queens. Nothing wrong with transmen.

BUT

When you put the two together, the femme reading and the vagina, well… I don’t have the language to express how it leaves me with a bad taste my mouth.

I do believe people should be exploring Patroclus’ gender, but I can’t be one of them. I’m sorry. I know everyone seems to be having fun with yuri patrochilles, but it’s not for me.

I would, however, be happy to answer any asks you might have on Pyrrha 🥰

[trashydez]

Silena, with a sleepy Clarisse on her lap: aww, you’re so adorable.

Clarisse, groggily: i could fucking kill you

Silena, lovingly: i know

[kissfaeries]

WOW

fem!patrochilles | she is half my soul, as the poets say

[babyrdie]

Masterpost

Headcanonverse:

Imagine this is something like my Greek mythology universe. That is, it mixes versions of myths (signaled) and headcanons (also signaled). It’s different from when I talk about sources as if they were sources, mind you! Furthermore, the only deities I do headcanons for are nymphs because of their association with the mortal characters I do hc, so if you ask me headcanon about, for example, Olympians…I admit I won't have any to give you…

Headcanon about Automedon pt 1

Headcanon about Automedon pt 2

Headcanon about Automedon pt 3

How having a nymph mother affects a child to me (more specifically, my Achilles and my Penelope)

Paris in Trojan family

Cassandra and Helenus relationship

Silly guys competing (Antilochus, Achilles, Patroclus, Big Ajax, Teucer, Odysseys)

Headcanon about Odysseus

Headcanon about Patroclus' personality

Headcanon about Penelope

Headcanon about Achilles

Patrochilles' relationship headcanon part 2

Pet buddies (Patroclus, Antilochus, Automedon)

Patrochilles' relationship headcanon pt 2

Ajax and Odysseus headcanon

Patroclus, Achilles and Antilochus headcanons

Achilles sexual/romantic intereses headcanons

Patroclus' afterlife

Deidamia headcanon

Genderbend Patrochilles (search for the tag #Fem!Patrochilles for more)

Pat during Skyros

Talking about ancient sources:

These are sources, there are no headcanons. It's different from the headcanonverse.

Thetis and Hephaestus (I was thinking about putting it in takes since it's my opinion on a relationship that I think is underrated, but I'll put it here since a lot of the post is me quoting sources)

Thetis and Peleus

Peleus sources (like Patroclus')

Oenone's sources

Achilles and Helen as a couple (yeah, this is real!)

Penelope's family (it's very confusing)

Achilles and Skyros (Deidamia and Neoptolemus sources as well) part 1, part 2, part 3

Patroclus and Achilles kinship

Cult of Achilles in Black Sea/Euxine Pontus (not my theories or explications lol this is a group of academic explanations and ancient texts)

Perseus, Danae, Andromeda and Medusa sources part 1, part 2, part 3

Patroclus' skills

Antilochus weird exposure in Fabulae

Some takes:

These are just my opinions, interpretations, associations of myths. They aren't necessarily headcanons, but they aren't objective enough to be 100% canon in the sources.

Patroclus as a healer (I like! But with a few reservations)

Thetis in mithology (I love her and I don't understand anyone who thinks she's an empty archetype)

Do I prefere invulnerable or vulnerable Achilles (the answer is vulnerable)

About Paris and vanity

Achilles' association with water elements (In a not that serious way lol)

Achilles and Zeus' blood (talking about the prophecy)

Jason and Medea in Argonautica

Patroclus and gentleness

Patroclus and Neoptolemus

Cassandra and marriage

Where is post X?

Some of my posts were deleted (e.g. Patroclus' sources) because I found them disorganized and others were privatized (e.g. some fanarts) for various reasons. If you didn't find post X, it's likely that I deleted or privatized it.

[johaerys-writes]

Random but I’m going crazy thinking about fem patrochilles in your disasters universe 😭

LISTEN listen I can see the vision okay 😭😭 Achillea being the wildchild, always getting into trouble and Pat being the kind and patient friend that takes care of her when she flies off the rails... taking dance classes together and spending hours perfecting their routines.... doing each other’s hair and make up every time they go out just for a chance to stare lovingly into each other's eyes while applying eyeshadow..... watching silly romantic movies just for laughs and always ending up falling asleep on the other's shoulder or holding their hand or being like "that guy's so lame, she'd be so much better off with her bestie" LOL..... lengthy practice make out sessions before cuddling each other to sleep every night.... keeping the same journal where they both write their thoughts in and taking it everywhere with them, including school where they’re constantly exchanging notes.... everyone being like "aww they're such good friends!" meanwhile Achillea and Pat are planning their whole lives (and deaths) together lmaooo

[bisexualandaninsomnia]

Draw your otp but it’s fem patrochilles

[peggy-sue-reads-a-book]

If it’s not obvious, on this blog Patrochilles left Troy to have cowboy times in Pthia for the rest of their long and happy lives. It’s time to talk about their baby. You believe the earth is round, I believe Patroclus and Achilles adopted a baby sea nymph.

Achilles knows that his Pat always wanted a baby and this one is a sea nymph just like he partly is.

Pat isn’t so sure about raising a nereid but takes one look at her porcelain skin and silky dark hair and has to have her. He couldn’t possibly send her back to those freaky sea caves.

At first Patroclus is way more on it with the baby care but it’s hard because when she gets to upset she turns into an literal puddle. They keep arguing because Achilles wants to sleep train but she’s super fussy and just wants to be cuddled on Pat’s chest all night. Midfight Pat just loses it and says: SHES COHESIVE MOLECULES, ACHILLES. COHESIVE. MOLECULES. She needs me.

No, she doesn’t look like them. It’s completely fine.

Pat agrees to **just try** the crib. Her cries are the lonely howl of an ocean storm at night and it literally rains on them. Achilles leaps out of bed to get her. Patroclus falls asleep to the sound of him murmuring its ok, baby, daddy will never leave you. Daddy is so proud of your raging-monsoon powers. Daddy’s sorry you can sleep with us till college, you little portent of seafaring horror, you. And her breathing turns to peaceful waves.

No but really she’s Achilles baby princess and can have the world. He tries to hide it but how can he when they’re literally always holding hands and splashing each other in the pretty streams.

Pat carving all her toys out of wood.

She turns green and grows shark teeth and gils when she throws a tantrum.

Achilles giving Patroclus hair tutorials because “this is not a heteronormative situation, both of us can fix her hair, damnit.” Pat is hopeless at fixing hair.

Neither of them learns to sew and she just wears whatever.

Honestly tho she’s kind of feral being raised by two war criminals in the middle of the woods.

Achilles names her Cleo, as in the fem version of Patroclus. Pat tries to object because he hates his name but Achilles won’t hear of it. Her name is Cleo.

GRANDPA CHIRON. WE NEED HIM.

[stedesdimple]

In my book the love interests are two girls and it just slapped me in the face that they're basically Fem!lock mixed with Patrochilles whoops