#Elliot/Gregor
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rockstar-the-artist · 1 year ago
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Gregor and Gregor
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geekgirles · 7 months ago
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Have you ever noticed how Double Cross My Heart, aside from the obvious similarities with Flirting with Disaster, also parallels Parental Bonding somewhat?
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The first connection is fairly easy to make. After all, the episode was specifically designed to mirror Flirting with Disaster and Danny's budding relationship with Valerie while Sam stewed in jealousy from the sidelines.
An episode like that is a staple of romance subplots, and arguably a needed one. After all, the Green-Eyed Epiphany, that trope where someone realises their feelings for somebody else because of jealousy, is a classic for a reason, mainly because it works so well.
Double Cross My Heart, despite its flaws, is a classic role reversal where Sam finally got to experience what it was like to have a mutual crush on someone outside of her best friend, and the complications that come with it, while Danny got a taste of what it's like to fear losing your best friend, someone you subconsciously assumed would always be there for you, to somebody else. The fear of watching them close that door and move on from you while all you can do about it is seethe in jealousy because you don't dare admit your feelings out of fear of that ruining everything still.
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Again, the similarities with Flirting with Disaster are crystal clear: the new love interest, the jealousy, the suspicious thing going on prompting one of them to spy on the other, the new ship sinking before it could even sail...
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However, I think we're sleeping on the fact that it still shares a few parallels with Parental Bonding and Danny's other love interest: Paulina.
Specifically, I'm referring to this exchange from Danny and Sam's argument after he revealed he'd been spying on her and "Gregor".
Danny: Not you! I was spying on Gregor! He's so obviously working with the guys in white! Sam: Oh, so that's it! The only way a boy could like me is if it was a part of a plot to get to you? Huh? Ego much?
Sam wasn't just mad because Danny went behind her back to spy on her date, she was especially hurt because Danny accidentally implied nobody could ever like her for her and would have to have some sort of ulterior motive to show interest instead.
Now, why does that sound so familiar?
Ah, right. Because that's precisely what happened to Danny with Paulina in Parental Bonding. The irony being that he never even found out about it, since it's implied Sam kept it a secret to spare his feelings.
Sam: Hey, Paulina. Nice dress. Paulina: (Turns to her.) Yes, and it goes so nicely with your amulet, don't you think? Sam: My amulet? That's not my-- (Realization of Danny's plan hits her.) Right! Listen...my grandma gave me that amulet, and-- Paulina: Forget it, sweetie. I'm not giving up this trinket or your little boyfriend Danny. Sam: My boyfriend? Ha ha! And they say pretty girls can't be funny. Danny is not my boyfriend. Paulina: He's not? Sam: He's my best friend. Maybe that's why I was so hard on you. I didn't mean to call you shallow. Paulina: What a bummer! I only agreed to go out with him because I thought I was stealing him from you. (Putting amulet around Sam's neck.) Here, take your crummy amulet. (Walking away.) I'm going back inside to dump your dorky friend.
For all of the focus Danny (understandably) receives by virtue of being the protagonist and, hence, most people's target, the reason he ever got a "chance" with Paulina before she fell for the Ghost Boy was precisely because she was using him to get back at Sam for calling her shallow. Nothing more, nothing less.
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In other words, he himself was a victim of what he was accusing Gregor of, and he doesn't even realise it!
And while Gregor was significantly nicer to Danny and Tucker (before he blew up at the latter and with it his cover) than Paulina or even Valerie ever were (Valerie has her moments, but since her arc ended up being tied most closely to Danny's, her interactions with Sam and Tucker were far and in between and not always friendly on either side), Danny ended up being right about him. Partly.
Because he indeed was a fake, only he was "just" pretending to have more things in common with Sam than he really did (and the whole false identity thing, which is kind of inexcusable, let's be honest), instead of working for the Guys in White to get to him. And that was that. Gregor was really Elliot and Sam was done with him the moment he was done with Tucker. Because her friends come first.
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I suppose this all comes to show that Gregor/Elliot wasn't just a parallel to Valerie for the sake of a mirror episode and a new love triangle. He ended up being a perfect amalgamation of both of Danny's love interests outside of Sam. He genuinely liked Sam (like Valerie with Danny), but he was still being dishonest about it (like Paulina).
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amethyst0cean · 10 months ago
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My sister was telling me the other night that the episode "Double Cross My Heart" is hated by most and I wanted to give my thoughts of it. After watching it with her, I think it's a good episode overall 😊
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Sam having a crush on Danny, while also having feelings for Gregor makes sense in this episode. Having crushes with more than one person at a time does happen and it's not unusual; Danny has a crush on three girls at once (Paulina, Valerie, and Sam) which has been shown throughout the series. Sam having one with more than one person as well seems fair to me in that regard, and Danny being uncomfortable with that shows that he also has feelings for Sam that he's unaware of in that moment. It's an early depiction of jealously.
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Danny makes a horrible decision in the episode to spy on Sam during her date with Gregor. Danny thinks Gregor has something to do with the Guys in White since they keep showing up at the same time to go after Danny while Gregor is around. I also believe him feeling a little jealous and not quite understanding that it relates to him liking Sam also plays an important part of why he wanted to see what was going on during their date.
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Sam and Gregor kiss (Danny's POV): Danny sees something he didn't want to see, and it hurts him. He was expecting to find a relation between Gregor and the Guys in White but instead he sees that Sam and Gregor like each other more than what he thought. I understood how he felt here because it sucks seeing someone you like kiss someone else 🥺 Although of course he shouldn't have been spying in the first place 😅
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Sam and Gregor kiss (Sam's POV): I really like that we get to see Sam's POV of her relationship in this episode as well. She asks Gregor if they think they are going a little too fast, and he respects how she feels and they both decide to take it slow. Sam being honest with her feelings was great to see as well and shows that she knows how to handle herself well in these situations 🥹
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Danny confronts Sam about what he saw and she is reasonably angry at him for spying on her during her date. He still mentions his suspicions about Gregor and the Guys in White and Sam tells him that he just doesn't want to see her happy with someone. Both of their feelings are valid here but Danny was still in the wrong for breaking Sam's trust and boundaries and Sam had every right to be upset with Danny for that. Tucker lets Danny know afterwards that he can hang out with Sam and Gregor for him and will let him know if he sees anything suspicious from Gregor. I really liked seeing their friendship dynamic here; that Tucker was able to help Danny feel a little better with his idea and be there for him 🥹
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Tucker is obnoxious third-wheeling Sam and Gregor's date (which was pretty funny at times), and he later tells Danny that he didn't see anything strange about Gregor which confirms to Danny that he was wrong about what he thought with Gregor and the Guys in White. I really do appreciate that Danny respects Sam's space after their argument and he doesn't try spying on her again.
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Gregor confronts Danny knowing that Danny doesn't like him and learns from Danny that he was worried about Sam. When asking Danny if he likes Sam, Danny hesitates for a moment, and that lets Gregor know that Danny is unsure of his feelings. It gives Gregor free reign to ask Sam out, which Danny was definitely displeased with. He should let Sam know he likes her soon 🥹
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I really like how Sam responds to Gregor here. He expresses to Sam that he wants to be more than friends with her, but doesn't want Tucker around with them because he thinks he's a loser. Sam immediately stands up for Tucker and says that he's one of her best friends and he comes with the whole package if Gregor wants to be with Sam. Gregor gets frustrated and starts showing his true colours, that he has a fake accent, name, and lied about where he's from to impress Sam. He really did seem like a cool guy throughout the episode until this point which was a shame that he had to be a sleazy person 🥲 I'm glad that Gregor was not a part of the Guys in White, that he had his own plot separate from them. Sam showing that she cares about her friendship with Tucker was also nice to see during this scene 🥹
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I love the ending as well when Sam and Danny make up; where they both apologize to each other. Sam wasn't in the wrong for not believing Danny about Gregor because she had no clue he's been lying to her, and Danny didn't know that either of course. He also apologizes for betraying Sam's trust and spying on her, which I appreciate. Danny can make bad decisions and still make up for it afterwards 😊 Seeing Sam's insecurity about no one who's genuine liking her is really sad to me because even though she's a hard core goth with a tough exterior to her at times, deep down she wants to be liked for who she is. Danny lets her know how amazing of a person she is and also showing how much he likes her as well (we all see it Danny 😏).
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Overall I really enjoyed this episode 😊 Sam, Danny, and Tucker all had good roles during it and you see how much they all care about each other. They all felt like themselves too; they didn't feel out of character to me. I may be a little bias since I like Sam and Danny's relationship 🥹 The only thing I wish we saw more of is Danny and Sam's relationship progress more throughout the series instead of just a couple of episodes and then not do anything about it later from what happens in them (the Ember episode in S1 with Danny and Sam blushing at each other a lot as an example). From the episodes I have seen of them though, I really like how their friendship and relationship is portrayed and I can't wait to see more of it as time goes (I hope they show it more) 🥹
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kikistrikesagain · 1 year ago
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Just a giant sketch dump
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prophecyofgray · 2 years ago
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i know i say this like every time i consume a new media but guys. guyyys. in other lands is somethign that can be soooo the underland chronicles
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hannahmanderr · 2 years ago
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GREGORY/ELLIOT
Lyrics - Unholy (ft. Kim Petras) by Sam Smith
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Instrumental - Battle with Infinite - First Bout from Sonic Forces
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rockstar-the-artist · 1 year ago
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YES another Gregor art out there!
What if the government started to doubting the Guys I White because they haven't captured this dangerous ghost boy yet.
So they hire a spy to check up on the guys in white. I guess Elliots parents took the mission or his aunt or something BUT Elliot was like "I can find this ghost boy myself"
(not to harm Phantom or anything just to prove he's a good spy too)
So he goes to Amity Park and tries to find a way to enter the high school, because Phantom is a teenager and appears pretty often at the school.
Luckily, at the same time international students are visiting Amity, Elliot sees his chance and impersonates Gregor.
Some time later, poor Gregor has no idea why this boy with a soup thermos keeps giving him angry looks.
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DP reboot concept that I don’t think anyone thought about yet: Gregor/Elliot is an actual interesting recurring character with deeper lore instead of being a one-shot throwaway character to make Danny jealous Idk, I just feel as if that guy has a cool enough design. Make him cool somehow. Maybe with real affiliations with guys in white? Affiliations with ghosts? Who knows. i dont think ive ever seen a single post about that dude
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ghostwritergirl · 2 months ago
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Top 10 Awesome Sam Manson Moments
10. Sam kicking ghost butt with Jazz and Maddie in Girls’ Night Out
9. Sam kicking ass in Walker’s prison, both before and after Danny and Wulf joined in
8. Sam helping Tucker be more comfortable and accept his identity as a techno-geek when he was insecure about it and the bad luck thing under the veneer of making him Goth too
7. Sam sneaking out of her house while grounded to save Danny from Freakshow’s mind control
6. Sam being ready to throw hands with a ghost for “defeating” Danny and “hurting/killing” him AND WOULD HAVE if those guards hadn’t dragged her away
5. Sam sticking by Tucker and dumping Gregor/Elliot when he tried to get her to leave her best friend for him and Elliot showed her that he’s a fake
4. Sam not taking advantage of Danny ONCE while he was influenced under Ember’s love spell, even though she did like the attention a little
3. Sam genuinely apologising to Paulina for calling her shallow and initially judging her
2. Sam being a total badass in tricking Aragon to release her from the crown by being herself and everything he doesn’t want AND helping Dora stand up for herself
Sam taking down two of the three horror movie monsters her unintentional wish brought to life and being awesome while doing it
Just… Sam Manson being awesome in general
(Edit: Honourable mention: Sam inviting Kwan to the Goth poetry slam with her as a gesture of friendship at seeing how truly lonely he was without his friends, even though he’d been annoying her and Tucker prior to that)
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wildestheart4ever · 1 year ago
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One thing that boggles me about the fanon character Wes Weston, is what an morally gray asshole he is.
Like, his whole schtick is obsessively trying to prove that Danny is Phantom and being driven nuts because no one else believes him…..
It doesn’t matter that he knows he’s right [Whether or not he had visual proof], but his continued failure to convince everyone plus Danny&Co’s smugness drives the need to prove himself right and rub it in their faces….
This is the agreed consensus on the character.
But I’m surprised not a lot of people point out this need to out Danny would put Danny in serious trouble.
Now whether or not one chooses to make the Fentons bad parents is one thing
But the GIW however have proven that they are willing to hunt down a human teenager on the basis that they’re a ghost [Elliot/Gregor - Reality gauntlet] for dubiously unethical reasons….
Whether or not that has crossed the fanon character’s mind doesn’t seem widely accepted.
But the thing is that he is willing to overlook that if it means proving those naysayers wrong.
And I find that an interesting aspect of the character. Whether or not Wes was just meant to be a comical “Conspiracy Theorist” character
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odditynpts · 2 months ago
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⠀ ⠀ ⠀❝⠀⠀and im floating in a most peculiar way . . . ⠀and the stars look very different today ! ⠀❜
self - indulgent ID PACK based off : jane doe (rtc) !
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tiny note from mod major tom , augh . . this id pack is basically just an attempt to gain some traction . i hope it works , i would really like to do some requests !
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rockstar-the-artist · 1 year ago
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That's not nice . . . Is it?
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ghostlyschwarbage · 5 days ago
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Season 2, Episode 18: Double Cross my Heart
The Guys in White had a decoy ghost to lure Skulker to them 
The Guys in White captured Skulker's suit and used it to get information on Danny 
Sam was eating a tofu-soy melt
Gregor was visiting from Hungary 
There was a kid wearing a shirt with the Flash symbol on it 
It's 10 cents to use the bathroom at Nasty Burger 
Danny has an ectoblast that blinds its victims 
The Guys in White have a fridge with a vault lock 
Danny thinks that Gregor works for the Guys in White
Danny can tell that Gregor's accent is fake
There's a store in Amity Park mall that had a "white sale", but according to the Guys in White, there were no white clothes 
The Guys in White have intangibility suits
Tucker fell down a man-hole 
Mr. Lancer wouldn't answer any questions from the feds until after they threatened him with his tax records 
Gregor faked an accent and entire personality to get with Sam 
Gregor had white hair and green eyes, his real name is Elliot, and he's from Michigan 
Danny knows where the Guys in White's base is 
The Guys in White know that Danny Phantom has a secret identity
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silverwing013 · 6 months ago
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Again again!
Random spin wheel of DP characters for creating a headlining duo for an imaginary and probably never made ff story.
Boredom funsies!
Whichever sounds the most interesting/entertaining/whatever.
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Gay wrongs tournament, round 2 of the major bracket
* Canonically queer M/F couples and polycules are included in the definition of gay wrongs for this poll.
Propaganda:
For the Leverage trio:
No murder (except occasionally by Elliot) but the theifsom as they are sometimes called rob from every kind of evil rich asshole they can find. Three of the best criminals in the world. Be poly do crimes. 
A canonical (Word of God) triad who run cons with the ultimate goal of helping people. Hardison is a hacker, Eliot is a hitter, and Parker is a thief
For Nadja and Laszlo:
they're both bisexual vampires who are mildly terrible people who have been together for centuries and love each other deeply and occasionally get with other people to spice the marriage up. he continuously kills her reincarnated lover Gregor because whenever he shows up, she ends up upset. also he's jack the ripper and she ran a vampire night club that before she burned to the ground to get insurance out of she embezzeled a lot from.
They’re vampires, they’re married, they’re in love. They eat people together and have done so for hundreds of years. Bi 4 bi and in a rather open relationship but loyal to eachother to the end. Lazlo refuses to return to England because they disrespected nadja when they first got married hundreds of years ago. They’re adorable together and the weirdest goddamn people ever.
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imekitty · 2 years ago
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The reason why I don't make Star a cheerleader in any of my fics is because we never actually see her cheering with the rest of the squad. We never even see her wear a cheerleading uniform.
The only evidence I can think of that she's a cheerleader is she does a cheer routine in Pirate Radio while fighting off ghosts (which doesn't mean anything on its own, it's a really basic cheer that Paulina could've just taught her for fun) and Gregor/Elliot calls her a cheerleader in Double Cross My Heart (which proves nothing because he's a new student and an idiot).
And in fact, in Forever Phantom, we see Paulina on the field cheering while Star is watching in the stands.
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So yeah, that's why Star is not a cheerleader or even an athlete in my fics.
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