#Edward the black prince

[illustratus]

The Black Prince at the Battle of Crécy

by Julian Russell Story

[medievalandfantasymelee]

THE HOT MEDIEVAL & FANTASY MEN MELEE

QUALIFYING ROUND: 5th Tilt

Edward the Black Prince, A Knight's Tale (2001) VS. King Henry VII Tudor, The Hollow Crown (2012-2016)

Propaganda

Edward the Black Prince, A Knight's Tale (2001) Portrayed by: James Purefoy

“The medieval romantic disguised royalty trope, the ridiculous but very sexy long leather coat, the cheeky sense of humour...”

King Henry VII Tudor, The Hollow Crown (2012-2016) Portrayed by: Luke Treadaway

“He makes his first appearance about an hour and twenty minutes into the two hour program, and he exists basically for the sole purpose of looking youthful and righteous, marching slowly - upright and princely on horseback - along the coastline. He looks very pretty bathed in the rosy glow of the sunset the night before battle, gets in a nice kingly speech in the morning and then, drenched and covered in mud, he wins the day. Perfection. 10/10 no notes.”

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For King Henry VII

[cesareeborgia]

↳ the children of Edward III & Philippa of Hainault (that survived infancy)

(requested by anonymous)

[thetudorslovers]

In such wise did the Prince make stay in Gascony, and abode there the space of eight months or more. Very great was his valour. When it came towards summer then he assembled his forces, and rode again into Saintonge, Périgord and Quercy, and came as far as Romorantin. There he took the tower by assault, and the Lord Bouciquaut also, and the great Lord of Craon and a goodly number of others; more than two hundred were taken there, all men-at-arms of high renown, fifteen days before the battle of Poitiers. Thereafter he rode into Berry, and through Gascony also, and up to Tours in Tourayne. Then the tidings came to King John, whereat he made great lamentation, and said that he would lightly esteem himself if he did not take great vengeance.

[britneyshakespeare]

never read shakespeare’s english history plays. seems like a harmless venture at first but eventually you will end up thinking to yourself, at random times throughout your day, “hm, i wonder, if edward the black prince...” when no sensible person should ever be wondering about edward the black prince

[une-sanz-pluis]

Yet the Vie du Prince Noir was in other respects also a poem for its time, ‘very much a political work, designed to encourage his son Richard II to live up to a romanticized ideal of his father’. The early 1380s, after all, was a time when almost every aspect of England’s military policy was being bitterly fought over in a succession of angry parliaments, while nobles and knights eager for the chance to emulate their forefathers waited to see which way the impressionable young king would turn. In the event, while Richard undoubtedly understood the need, and had the desire, to project an image of chivalric ardour, he showed little inclination to pursue an aggressive foreign policy in Continental Europe. As Nigel Saul and others have shown, Richard disliked war. He had ‘a genuine abhorrence of the shedding of blood between Christians’; he also understood that for as long as the war lasted, he would forever be having to ask his parliaments for subsidies, affording them the opportunity to criticise and bargain for concessions. And once this disinclination began to reveal itself, around 1383–84, it set him on a collision course with some of England’s greatest men, including the prince’s brothers, the royal uncles John of Gaunt and Thomas of Woodstock. For Gaunt and Woodstock, as for other leading aristocrats such as the earls of Arundel and Warwick, men who were descended from the Black Prince’s comrades-in-arms, the dream of foreign glory and the example of the prince, burnished by the Herald, remained a lodestar. Whoever commissioned the Vie, and whether or not they had a specific purpose in doing so, it was clearly conceived within an aristocratic milieu that advocated the belligerent pursuit of England’s rights abroad under the leadership of kings and princes of prowess and renown. To be portrayed as the heir to a heroic tradition was something that another king, another person, might have turned to advantage, but in Richard’s case the exemplary knight of the Vie du Prince Noir was simply not an image he could live up to.

Chris Given-Wilson, "Edward, the Black Prince, and Bertrand du Guesclin, Constable of France: Chivalry and Rivalry in Life and Death" in Creativity, Contradictions and Commemoration in the Reign of Richard II (ed. Jessica A. Lutkin and J. S. Hamilton, The Boydell Press, 2022).

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[heartofstanding]

Regarding Joan of Kent and Elizabeth Woodville, may I add something relatively minor that I found very touching? Edward the Black Prince addressing Joan as "my dearest and truest sweetheart and well-beloved companion" and Edward IV addressing Elizabeth as "our dearest and most entirely beloved wife Elizabeth the queen...in whom we most singularly put our trust" were both very sweet. Especially since both were addressed this way many years after their marriages took place - 6 years for Joan and I think 11 for Elizabeth.

These aren't very important or anything but I found them very lovely to read about and quite indicative of their respective marriages

I try to be cynical about the use of such epithets in medieval records since they're usually formulaic to a degree (e.g. John of Gaunt refers to each of his three wives as his "dearest" consort in his will) but those references are so lovely that they melt my cynic's heart 💖

I love this excerpt from David Green's biography of the Black Prince:

Edward [Edward of Woodstock, Prince of Wales) and Joan (Joan of Kent) appeared to be a very loving couple. Before Edward left for the south, the couple “very sweetly embraced and took farewell with kisses.” And on his return, they went on an informal walkabout: “The Princess came to meet him, bringing with her her first born son…very sweetly they embraced when they met together. The gentle prince kissed his wife and son. They went to their lodging on foot, holding each other by the hand.” In a letter addressed to Joan following the battle of Najera in 1367, he addresses her as “my dearest and truest sweetheart and beloved companion,”

[theoldshadow]

merry christmas  🎅 - @inprometheanfire - edward the black prince

[the-son-of-hastur]

Historical Royalty: Smash or Pass [Part One]

(Note: As I am a minor at the time of this writing, the smashing is purely hypothetical.)

MATTHIAS CORVINUS OF HUNGARY AND CROATIA: Smash. 100#.

EMPRESS MATILDA: Smash even harder. She’s literally the IRL source for Rhaenyra Targaryen.

AETHELRED THE UNREADY: Pass. Holy fuck, pass. What the hell was this artist doing.

EDWARD THE BLACK PRINCE: … Maybe? Man, I don’t know. If I was an English aristocrat in the 1300s, yeah, I guess.

THIS SPECIFIC ART OF WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR: Smash immediately. I don’t even care what war crimes bro did, imagine the sheer clout.

MARY, QUEEN OF SCOTS: Girl, I’m so sorry, but no. What the hell is that style.

EDMUND IRONSIDE: On the one hand, not my type. On the other hand, probably one of my favorite epithets and absolutely kickass reason for how he got it. Inconclusive.

SEAXBURH: We’re already married with 2.5 kids and a white picket fence.

[voldiebuns]

Rating: General Audiences Characters: Edward the Black Prince Additional Tags: Poetry, blackout poetry

[liberty1776]

Edward the Black Prince

[medievalandfantasymelee]

THE HOT MEDIEVAL & FANTASY MEN MELEE

FIRST ROUND: 48th Tilt

Edward the Black Prince, A Knight's Tale (2001) VS. Gendry, Game of Thrones (2011-2013)

Propaganda

Edward the Black Prince, A Knight's Tale (2001) Portrayed by: James Purefoy Defeated Opponents: - King Henry VII Tudor [Luke Treadaway], The Hollow Crown (2012-2016)

“The medieval romantic disguised royalty trope, the ridiculous but very sexy long leather coat, the cheeky sense of humour...”

Gendry, Game of Thrones (2011-2013) Portrayed by: Joe Dempsie Defeated Opponents: - Ubbe Ragnarsson [Jordan Patrick Smith], Vikings (2013-2020)

“The bastard son of a king, and an accomplished blacksmith. He also has pretty, pretty blue eyes. (Cont. Under the Cut)

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For Gendry:

"Gendry's response to his old friend coming back as a terrifying assassin is to sleep with her. Good for him.”

[pengold]

Weston College but what if it was like Ouran highschool host club

[verlierer-is-lost]

Canon FirstPrince interaction

[reine-du-sourire]

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