#Eco-Fascism

[ayin-me-yesh]

Going tbh, every time I see someone applauding Biden approving some environmental regulation in the U.S. while he's also sponsoring genocide in Palestine — while he's sending in the U.S. military (one of the world's biggest polluters) to attack Ansar Allah, while he's supplying Israel with arms that are killing thousands of people and destroying the Palestinian environment, while his government encourages Israel to exploit Gaza's off-shore oil reserves — it really feels like eco-fascism.

[officialfoxsquadron]

thinking about dedra and syril and how fascist ideology promises women (white cis women, specifically) safety and security if they only follow their rules, stay in line, stick to the script, have blond babies and support blonde men. yes you can hold positions of power, but on the fascists terms and the fascist’s rules.

but the thing is the rules are always shifting! the goalposts are always moving! and submitting to a patriarchy, even if you ostensibly hold power within that patriarchy, means you are constantly under threat of male violence, because fascism relies on male violence, machismo, and action for action’s sake in order to maintain power!

and i do think it’s significant that star wars has continually shown intimate partner violence as the “point of no return” for its fascist/dark sided characters because folks. that’s how it starts. fascism begins with the abuse of family and ends with the murder of thousands

[notaplaceofhonour]

nuance

a subtle distinction or variation

a subtle quality

sensibility to, awareness of, or ability to express delicate shadings (as of meaning, feeling, or value)

[from Merriam-Webster Dictionary]

The first feature of Ur-Fascism is the cult of tradition, which implies the rejection of modernism. Thus, the Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.

Irrationalism depends on the cult of action for action’s sake. Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.

The contradictions inherent to Fascism cannot withstand analytical criticism. The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism.

[from Ur-Fascism by Umberto Eco, with some paraphrasing]

[originalleftist]

THANK YOU for refuting the "overpopulation" narrative.

Always, ALWAYS be deeply suspicious of someone who argues that the Earth is "overpopulated". Because the moment the argument becomes "there are too many people", it opens the door for the question "Which people should be subtracted?" Now consider that the countries with the highest populations and population growth don't tend to be wealthy "developed" Western nations (which consume the most), but poorer "developing" non-Western nations... can you see where this argument is going?

Blaming environmental crises on "overpopulation" allows the rich and powerful to shift the blame onto the poor, powerless, and "foreign"/non-white. And is opening the door for eugenics, eco-fascism, and ultimately genocide to be the "solution", rather than the rich having to give up some of their wealth.

[flinny-so]

"Leftists" who are against this are eco-fascists. I know some people may not like to see themselves that way but that is the word that meets the definition. Change your opinion or accept the label.

I am a marxist btw.

Some people don’t want to hear this but sometimes accessibility is not sustainable or eco-friendly. Disabled people sometimes need straws, or pre-made meals in plastic containers, or single-use items. Just because you can work with your foods in their least processed and packaged form doesn’t mean everyone else can.

[weekendviking]

Also, I still find Umberto Eco's essay on Ur-fascism, the roots from which fascist movements cobble themselves together from, to be very useful:

[art-for-a-reason]

So derisive I read it twice-ive! Teaboot's rants are like little unexpected gifts.

One time, I had an English professor tell me I should stop using my inhaler because it was bad for the environment.

Yeah an if you dropped dead it would significantly reduce your carbon footprint too, huh. What if we ALL just stopped breathing. Can’t be throwing fistfuls of plastic fuckin straws directly into the South Pacific when you got a BPM of zilch, can you? What a fuckin innovator. Was he head of your nation’s EPA *directly* before he retired to become world’s youngest baseline edgelord 4chan ass 14 year old boy with tenure, or did he wait for his 3rd consecutive Nobel peace prize before giving someone else a chance? Ask him if his back hurts from carrying the weight of all the world’s most pressing concerns to and from Chuck E Cheese each night or if his tiny spiny propellor hat lightens the load a bit. Did his big red clown nose come standard with his tweed set or he spring for the premium model with the biodegradeable sustainable foam and the super-boosted honk-honk action? Are his size 23 clown bitch oxfords custom? Does he take one off to use as a canoe on his annual vacations to his summer home in the balmy and tropical shit fuck dumbass islands or does he just levitate everywhere he goes by the power of his unparalleled Xmen level intellect. Can you ask him if Magneto is gonna spare the human race to run laps in his hamster wheel electrical generator complex or if he’s just gonna wipe us all the fuck out for the carbon tax credit. Ask him if the weight of his gigantic balls dragging in the ground behind him everywhere he goes adds to the mileage on his Tesla. When he wipes his ass does he use single ply to save the trees or just a fistful of baby ducklings that he can then gently bathe by hand with water collected by the rain barrel in the endangered orchid garden by the solarium on the west side of his sprawling villa, the one he bought when he sold the patent for the perpetual motion motion machine he built out of toothpicks and marshmallows in third grade before the obvious intellectual gap between himself and the rest of us bumbling simpletons weighed him down and killed his passion to create. What other wisdom has he yet to share with the world? What other knowledge that only he and my reiki-healing essential-oil-drinking violet-aura neighbour know that may benefit us all? Holy shit, have I been drinking WATER my whole life? That shit that whales live in? Guess I’ll just go lay in a hole out back and wait for the compost heap to take me. Should I confess my sins to Captain Planet first, so he may redeem my wicked soul in the true Eco Catholic way, or was that recyclable soda can I threw in the trash downtown at last year’s garlic bread festival because there were no recycling bins provided the final straw that made me unworthy of glorious green salvation? BRB, gotta go strip naked and flagellate myself before the begonias so that they may know the depth of my remorse. Don’t worry, I only buy locally-sourced hemp lashes produced by small home businesses at the farmer’s market, they have a three-for-two sale on Sundays if you bring your own reusable bag. Christ on a fucking cupcake

[culturefrancaise]

[elljayvee]

re: that last point, given how many people I, personally, one human living in a technologically advanced society, know who have lost newborn infants or had stillbirths? and how many other people I know who have children who are only alive because NICUs exist? Proving deliberate killing of infants vs plain old bad luck, in the absence of things like wounds from weapons, from archaeological evidence? Extremely unlikely.

really disheartening to see how much eco-fascist and eugenicist bullshit has embedded itself into writings about human relationship with nature. I was looking at a copy of a book in the library a while back called Humans Vs. Nature and found this (Discussing early human migrations in the Paleolithic)

To my great dismay, I did not record the source for this claim, But I found these pictures again, and of course I think...How do we know that?

How could we know that Paleolithic hunter-gatherers deliberately controlled their populations by periods of abstaining from sex? That would be incredibly hard to support using archaeological evidence. It seems easier to support infanticide using the archaeological record, so I was not initially troubled by that.

The author is also stating that Paleolithic humans killed their disabled. I have been searching high and low for evidence to support this claim and the closest I've come to any evidence regarding disability in the Paleolithic is this book chapter discussing whether or not it makes sense to assume compassion existed in pre-history. This book chapter gives the impression that the research has been...really dismal.

The two sides of the debate are essentially, "humans probably cared for their disabled in prehistory, because pathologies and injuries are common and they would have needed some kind of care" and "well maybe those people could survive just fine on their own and that's why they lived. We can't prove they were actually disabled."

Not an anthropologist, but I think it's pretty stupid to position a compassionless society as the "null hypothesis," especially based upon chimpanzees. Why would Paleolithic humans be more behaviorally similar to a relative separated by 5 to 13 million years of evolutionary divergence, than to their own descendants a mere few thousand years later????????

But the claim in Humans Vs. Nature isn't just that disabled people weren't cared for, it's that they were deliberately "eliminated," which is a statement with a much higher burden of proof. You would have to find the remains of disabled humans from that time period with clear evidence that they were killed because they were disabled, and you would have to observe this consistently in many sites, to come to the conclusion that it was a cultural norm.

We have many examples of elaborate, seemingly honorable burials for people that were apparently disabled and would have lived a long time with their disabilities. Nothing I've read has mentioned an archaeological record of killing people for being disabled, which would be a glaring oversight, unless it didn't exist, which I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

How did we get to the point where this kind of fucking bullshit sounds so plausible and correct that it makes it into a best selling book without anyone looking it up to see if it's true.

[chewwytwee]

Important to note that the fact conservatives are willing to appeal to centuries old law is because they’re fascists. Like most things, they believe The Law has already been determined and it’s only our job to figure out what The Law actually is