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certifiedbi · 1 year ago
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The advantages of being straight is getting watch shirtless men do your yard work? Ok Alonso, if you say so!
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moechies · 10 months ago
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lactating sukuna (*ノωノ) fluffy !!
it was an accident.
you were laid against your shirtless boyfriend, sitting in between his huge thighs whilst resting on his bare chest.
you pulled your eyes away from your phone, whining with a slight rub to your tired sight. upon looking up at your boyfriend, you earn a small glare with a short stroke to your hair. you turn your head to notice the pink bud of his nipple that bulges slightly from his chest, smiling at the mischievous thought before pressing your plush lips onto his nipple.
but something's wrong.
in the second you were attached to his nipple, a thin sweet liquid fills your mouth.
before you're able to blink twice, the man has you pulled off his body with a singular hand, many feet away from where you had just had your mouth a second ago. he holds you above him by your shirt, body hanging low, but your head is hoisted to face him.
"what the fuck do you think your doin' stupid fuckin' brat? why'd you do that?!"
"rwyomen.. dere's sumthin' in my mouf.."
you open your mouth slightly to show him the liquid, and you can swear his face turns a light shade of pink as he clenches his teeth in an anger.
"why the fuck did you do that?!"
"cos your nipple's cute..." you smile, accidentally swallowing a bit of the liquid. your eyes widen at the taste but its awfully.. sweet..
"spit it out brat!" is exactly when you decide to swallow the liquid in your mouth, flashing him a grin.
you extend your arm to reach him, a silent ask for more. when he pulls you back further, is when you notice his gaze has been distracted from your face, and his face was still painted with an unusual rosy blush.
"ryomen, are you embarrassed? look at me! tell me what that was now! please?!"
"it's milk," he grumbles.
he drops you down below, causing you to land in between his legs.
"oof.." he looks at you, his gaze awfully piercing but with no bad intention.. maybe.
"you can lactate?! can i have more?! it was so sweet!"
"you're fucked in the head." but you don't know that his heart thumps at the request, hiding his shock at your extremely normal reaction, and the fact that you weren't ashamed of his secret.
"maybe. gimme more," your head quickly move towards his nipple, but he is obviously quicker. his left hand cups his tit before you are able to reach, his other pressing against your insistent head.
"please ryo! i want more.! you'd let me if you loved me!"
"that's not how it works brat!"
"it is!" "the fuck? no it's not!" he releases your forehead, your body falling forward straight into his chest. "ryomen!" he chuckles.
"well since i'm already here, let me suck on your tit ryo." you nibble at the fat of his peck, meeting his red eyes as you look up. you attempt the best puppy eyes you possibly can, a smile spreading across your face with excitement when you hear the familiar sigh of surrender.
he removes his hand, and you quickly move yourself to latch onto him once again.
"yummie.."
he couldn't say it out loud, but you reminded him of that one black kitten with its face pulled out of milk captioned, "lost in the sauce." a meme you showed him a couple weeks ago that you believed was so insanely hilarious.
he loves you.
i literally don't know what this is, but it has literally been stuck in my head ever since gege's leaks Lol i know it was a mistranslation but it's so funny to me n i love lactating big men
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wolfythewitch · 8 months ago
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what reason would you give someone for them to convert to christianity? /gen i’m very curious to hear your answer as an atheist(?) going to a catholic school where every chapel boils down to ‘jesus can solve all your problems’. hope this isn’t taken in an offensive way, i’m genuinely curious what reasons people have!
See I don't really want to convert anyone to Christianity? Nor am I looking to. Need to make that clear before I continue.
A lot of people believe in a god because it offers to them a sense of comfort. Some people do it because they genuinely believe in a higher power. Religion is a very personal thing, you can't really boil it down one way or another. That's why any church who tries to tell you why to believe in God, well they might get some people but they won't get all. Believe in Jesus cannot solve all your problems. Or, well. I'm sure he can. But you will still hurt and life is a bitch. You can't reel people in with the promise of a perfect Christian life because then people will be sorely disappointed.
And. That's not even really getting into how corrupt a lot of the churches are out there. Unfortunately the problem with any organized religion is belief in a higher power can only go so far when any institution acting as its mouthpiece is human. The language of the gods tends to get a little mistranslated along the way. And then hypocrisy starts wading into the mix. And people like to use god to excuse their own actions.
And I mean I don't even really know why I'm religious. It could be many things. I've said before my relationship with faith is complicated. It could be guilt making me stay. It could be my parents converting me at a young age. It could be because I do believe there's a higher power out there. It could be because it's easier. Who knows? But my reasons will not be your reasons.
I'm not trying to dissuade you or anything haha but. Well. If you're ever thinking about converting, you can get a second opinion, join a community, go to Sunday church, but you can only ever really ask yourself why
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pumpkinhimiko · 11 months ago
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"Mistranslations" that are not mistranslations
Now with an additional part 2.
NISA has made plenty of mistakes while translating the Danganronpa series (and I've complained about them before), and so they have a reputation of being untrustworthy. But because of this reputation, I feel like fans are too quick to trust whatever anyone that isn't NISA states as absolute fact. So, I want to examine some instances of fan translators claiming NISA has mistranslated something, when, no, actually, they didn't.
Kokichi's last words
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人にやらされるゲームなんて…楽しい訳あるかよ… A game you're forced to play... how could that be fun...
This is probably the most widespread myth in terms of "mistranslations that aren't", with the original post that makes this claim having over 2k notes: that Kokichi in the original Japanese actually says, "How could a game where you're forced to kill people be fun...?" Unfortunately, it's just not true. Fortunately for me, there's a reddit post here that breaks the line down in detail, so I don't have to do any work.
Anyway, I really wanted to make this post because of this thread, which makes several false claims.
 Kokichi says he's afraid of friends in general
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オレは、そういう『仲間』が他人よりも怖いけどねー。I'm more afraid of those kinds of [friends] than strangers.
So... souiu, meaning that type of/that kind of is right there, directly before nakama (which can mean friend, especially if it's in a shounen anime, but can also just mean companion/member of a group). I don't understand how you can miss this. Not only is it right there, this claim on its face doesn't make sense. Why, in this context, would Kokichi suddenly blurt out that he's afraid of having friends? It has nothing to do with the conversation they're having.
Shuichi's words to Kokichi after the 4th trial
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王馬くん、もういいだろ ? Ouma-kun, isn't this enough? その話を聞かせてくれよ。Tell us about that.
Okay, you've probably heard the phrase mou ii a lot if you watch anime, and it's almost always accompanied by a frustrated huff. Because it is, in fact, something you say when impatient, fed up, what have you. It literally means "good already", carrying pretty much the identical meaning of the English phrase, "that's enough" or "I've had enough". Shuichi does not say it's okay as in it's daijoubu, which is the word you use when trying to comfort someone. He is very much frustrated here and telling Kokichi to fess up.
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I couldn't find a line like this in Kokichi's FTEs, but maaaaaaaybe I missed it? Shuichi's narration comments quite a few times on Kokichi acting childishly throughout the game, but I couldn't find anything like this in specific.
EDIT: Correction, I did find it, and it's covered in part two. Suffice to say, the OP got this line completely wrong.
That Kaito thing
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Yeah this is patently false. It's also already been touched on in this thread with comments backing it up, so there’s another thing I don't have to get into. I'll put the text here though.
オレはテメーみて一に胸クソ悪い真似までして、If I have to mimic your sickening behavior, 生き残りて一とは思わねーんだよ。I don't think I want to survive.
Shuichi's words to Kokichi after the 4th trial part deaux
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I've seen varying claims on how these lines were translated, from them being slightly tweaked, to the claim they were completely butchered to make Saihara too aggressive. I'm just going to leave it here and let you come to your own conclusions.
ダサいのはキミの方だよ…王馬くん。The lame one is you... Ouma-kun.
百田くんの周りにはいつも人が集まってくる… Momota-kun always has people around him... でも、キミの周りには誰もいないじゃないか。But, there's no one around you.
キミは…その程度のヤツって事だよ。That's... what kind of person you are.
This is snappy in its own way, though, if you consider that 程度 is closer to meaning grade/level/degree rather than simply "type of". "That's the level of person you are," basically.
And if you doubt me on any of this, I encourage you to do your own research, get second opinions if you can. I know not everyone knows Japanese, in which case you can't really help but rely on someone else and hope their translation is accurate. That said, at the bare minimum, I think people should provide screenshots and the original Japanese text if they're going to claim something is a mistranslation. Like, I don't think you should be able to say "actually in Japanese Kokichi says he volunteers at animal shelters in his free time but NISA cut it!" and have half the fandom believe you with no proof.
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hallowpen · 2 months ago
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I'm going to try my best to get through this without making myself emotional... even though, I know, I will fail miserably.
I really want to focus on the symbolism and language used in this episode, which means pointing out some differences between the Thai language vs. the English subtitles... otherwise the cultural meanings don't really come through as obviously.
It's important that we go into this episode with a Thai lens... specifically one that is influenced by the time period and its royal customs. Please keep that in mind as I discuss certain scenes and characters.
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The word that Princess Patt uses for 'engagement ring' is แหวนแทนใจ (pronounced 'waen taen jai'). While it absolutely could be used interchangeably, I would personally translate it to mean what we would call a 'promise ring' in English... which is considered in Thai culture to be a pre-engagement ring.
I've spoken before about how Prik helping to facilitate the relationship between Anil and Pin could have severe consequence. Princess Patt is clever in the way she gathers information from Prik, but Prik cannot lie once she is found out... and her status as a servant to those ranked above her has never been more clear.
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The language used in these two scenes, in particular, is super important!!!
Both Princess Patt and Lady Pin speak very formally toward one another to indicate the seriousness of their conversation. You will have heard Patt address Pin as "Khun Ying" (คุณหญิง) and Pin address Patt as "Than Ah" (ท่านอา).*
The word ปล่อยตัว (pronounced 'ploi tuua'), which Princess Patt uses to describe Pin's actions... In this context, means 'unrestrained' with the implication of being promiscuous. Pin calls herself ชั่วช้า (pronounced 'chua-chaa') which means 'immoral/sinful' as pertaining to going against the precepts of Buddhism... in this case, exhibiting sexual misconduct.
The actual Thai translation of Princess Patt's third line is "I wished for you to grow up elegantly as a lady should be."
A lot of Patt's dialogue can be read as telling Pin to 'know her place' and to 'know better'. But it's also significant to note her emotional reaction and her tone... because what she is telling Pin could, very well, come from a place of having lived through her own 'karmic punishment' for the feelings she held for Princess Im. We can see how Patt would be led to believe that coveting and loving another woman who does not rightfully belong to you is 'immoral' and would, therefore, end in karmic tragedy.
This leads right into:
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Again the English translation is a little off here. Princess Patt says
"Is the person you love someone you'll ever be able to hold onto? Have you forgotten who she is? Most importantly, she is a woman, no different from you."
Another mistranslation: When Pin is forbidden from seeing Anil, she pleads with Princess Patt to "Please, have mercy on me." Pin has always been agreeable to the rules and discipline set out for her. She has never once asked for special favor... until now. Pin prostrating at Princess Patt's feet is sooo significant; that Pin would rather beg to never be separated from Anil than to simply accept her aunt's order speaks volumes. Because while it may seem as an act of submission, it's Pin's way of conveying how much Anil truly means to her.
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This scene 😭😭😭 Prik addresses Pin as คุณหญิงเจ้าคะ (pronounced 'khun ying jao ka').* It is the first time we see Prik use entirely formal language with Pin... to add to the sincerity behind her apology.
It's also key to note that Pin takes the brunt of the blame for being 'reckless', because we are going to talk about that...
...in Part Two! So much happened in this episode, so I had to split it up.
*If you need to brush up on royal language terminology, you can go back to my post about episode one
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kanatashinkaifr · 5 months ago
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here's the remainder of belphegors selfie story!!
had to split it up cuz it was too much text.. I kept everything the exact same, with the exception of occasional mistranslations and making it somewhat gender neutral (but this is afab MC!!). link to the first part can be found below. NSFW below the cut, hope you enjoy!! :3
link to the first part
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Swoosh, swoosh, swoosh-!
As the soft skin and flesh of your breasts repeatedly stroked up and down furiously against the hard surface of his reversely hard cock, Belphegor's lower stomach heaved and his abs became even more defined.
Each time the slightly cool piercing rubbed against your hot flesh, you shivered, feeling the irritation of something scraping against it, despite its smooth surface.
His cock made a hissing sound as it rubbed against your sweaty cleavage, and you heard Beleth make a distressed 'Mmmm...' that overlapped.
Then you realized that your ass, which was still being hotly massaged by someone, was steaming hot.
MC: (I'm... Rubbing Belphegor's cock against my own chest... Listening to Beleth's voice...)
You closed your eyes, unaware of the weakness in your knees, unaware of your hips moving, unaware of your gasping for breath, lost in the hazy, sweet sensations as if you were dreaming.
Then, once again, the sensation that should have been felt only in your chest traveled elsewhere.
MC: Uh, that's...?!
Between your legs, where it was hottest right now, you felt Belphegor's shaft rubbing against you.
Belphegor: I ain't doin' much. It's all on you.
Belphegor said to you, still standing impossibly still.
At the same time, he licked his dry lips slowly, and the feel of his wet, hot tongue spread to your cheeks, the back of your knees, your armpits.
MC: Urgh...?! No, don't say it, don't...!
Every time he spoke, breathed, or licked his lips, you felt your entire body being caressed by his mouth, and you could barely stand on your knees.
Just then, the tip of his cock, which was being pistoned against your cleavage, rose up high and touched your lips with a soft, audible thud.
At that moment, you felt Belphegor's loins stiffen even more, and with a giggle, you managed to simultaneously piston his cock with your chest and suck its tip.
Belphegor: Mmmm... Now that's some good hustle.
An uncontrollable moan escaped Belphegor's mouth.
You tried to gather momentum and move faster, but Belphegor grabbed your shoulders.
You looked up and saw that his face was as red as yours.
Belphegor: Oh yeah, for sure. Feels mighty fine when ya work hard for me.
He said with great satisfaction. Then, suddenly, he pulled the dice out of his chest.
He threw it on the floor and... It showed a 1.
Belphegor: That's it. Sittin' still ain't my style.
Before you could ask what a one meant, he pulled you up and stood you up. And ordered.
Belphegor: Give me some sugar.
You didn't hesitate for a second, kissing him back.
No, you definitely kissed him, but...
MC: Oof...? Mmm...?!
As he slipped his tongue in, eyes wide open and staring at you, sensations raced through every inch of your body that his gaze touched.
His wet tongue slipped into your earlobe and licked the hole deeply, and at the same time, the space between your fingers was licked, and you felt like you were being humiliated by his tongue all over, from your toes, to your sensitive ankles, to your sunken navel and hard nipples.
MC: (I can't take it...!! Aah...!! No, I'm too sensitive...!!)
Tremble...!
You ended up clutching both of Belphegor's arms tightly and came just from kissing him.
The ecstasy of being kissed all over was no different from sex.
And when you finally broke away, gasping, you were about to collapse against your own weak back,
Roll...
Belphegor: Two. Ain't too shabby.
With another roll of the dice, Belphegor raised the corner of his mouth and
ordered you.
Belphegor: Spread 'em wide.
You could tell he wasn't simply asking you to change your position.
So you forced your legs, which were wobbly from excitement and languor, and spread them apart.
Then, without Belphegor's prompting, you pulled down your bottoms and opened the bottom of Belphegor's kimono.
Belphegor's cock, already wet with your sweat, was even wetter than it had been a moment ago.
Just then, Belphegor was about to roll the dice one more time, but before he could, you slipped his into your hole and swallowed him whole.
Belphegor: Ouch...
MC: Ah...! Yeah...!!
You began to move immediately, not giving Belphegor a chance to throw row th the next dice.
You shifted your hips until you were out of breath, trying to keep your heels upright so that you could stand face to face.
You gripped Belphegor's hips with both hands, feeling the uncanny sensation of Belphegor's low moans ringing simultaneously between your hip bones.
MC: It's not... Deep enough... Mmm, mmm, mmm...!
Feeling that your own movements weren't enough, you grabbed Belphegor's hips and pulled him into you.
Then the bumps on Belphegor's cock - the piercing-scraped more aggressively inside you, squeezing out your moans.
It made Belphegor feel like a full-sized, living, breathing dildo, but although he said he couldn't be bothered, he was now sneaking in and out of you.
To anyone watching, it looked like Belphegor was being fucked by you, but you alone were feeling quite the opposite.
You only had one hole that was full with his cock, but it felt as if you had a second and third hole somewhere, and they were all being pierced by Belphegor.
MC: Ahhh...! There are so many...!
Beleth: ...I ain't sure what ya up to, but looks like a darn good time.
Beleth furtively turned around to look at you with dark, shining eyes, but Belphegor grabbed his head and turned it back.
Belphegor: Ya ain't got no room left for more marks on yer body, huh?
Beleth: What ya mean? Still got plenty of space...
Crunch-!
You bit Belphegor's collarbone, causing Beleth to stop what he was saying and watch you with an odd look in his eyes.
The fact that Beleth and Belphegor were casually talking to each other while you were bare-chested and moaning to yourself somehow fueled your
arousal even more.
And then, as soon as your fevered head heard the word 'teeth marks', you bit down on Belphegor's collarbone.
But that was the end of it. In the back of your languidly molten mind, you harbored a command that said, "I must mangle him obscenely," but you had no rationality left to carry it out.
Right now, your instincts were focused on being touched by Belphegor, as if being touched by more than one person, your entire body surrendering to his touch in a warped sense of time and space.
Belphegor: Keke, Solomon's daughter, with you 'round, I don't gotta roll no dice. You find what I need and make it happen.
MC: The answer... You want...?
You asked, panting and clenching downward in ecstatic pleasure, as Belphegor pulled you into his arms with one hand and whispered.
Belphegor: Solomon taught me how to throw them dice.
Ya know why he never lost?
Cause he knew how to roll 'em just right.
MC: ..?!!
As if he didn't need an answer, Belphegor suddenly thrust hard, causing you to straighten up and tremble as if you'd been skewered.
The problem was that even this sensation was spreading through every inch of your body at the same time.
You choked and sobbed as you felt his invisible cock enter your open mouth, filling your throat with its hard length.
And before you could even get used to the pressure and the tightly packed pleasure, Belphegor began to move roughly at your waist, which he had never moved properly before.
MC: N-no...!!! It's...!! Too much...!!! Too, hard...!!!
Belphegor: Hold this for me.
Belphegor lowered his head good-naturedly, and the black halo came into your shaking gaze as your entire body shook, pierced by him.
Without a moment to think, you grabbed the halo as he commanded.
Then the thing you thought was fixed to the top of his head wobbled as if you'd tugged at the brim of his hat.
Belphegor: That's irksome. But wear it for a spell.
Belphegor didn't stop thrusting as he removed the halo from his head and placed it on top of yours. And then...
Thump...! Thump...! Thump...!
Your heartbeat quickened like a bad headache, and the vibrations thudded against your temples, forehead, brow, and eyes.
The moment you thought your vision seemed to darken slightly, you realized it was due to the black, ominous energy flowing from your body.
MC: Ah, urgh, ugh, wa-it, this... What the Hell,
Beleth: The halo of a fallen angel.
Your pupils dilated as Beleth finished the answer for you.
Like a nocturnal beast waking up from a long sleep to finally go on the hunt.
Crunch-!!!
You bit down on Belphegor's chest, not at anyone's request, but simply by blackened instinct.
Feeling Belphegor thrashing wildly on his own, you grabbed his ass, not to pull him away, but to dig your nails into it and rake it roughly.
Every time the pure lust of a devil and the black instincts of a fallen angel clashed inside you, Belphegor thrust inside you in time as if he knew the beat of those sparks.
You didn't even realize how strange it was that you didn't feel the slightest bit of guilt or hesitation as you drove your teeth and nails into every inch of his body.
It was so sweet to feel Belphegor scratching at your fingertips, at the tips of your teeth, at the very edge of your body, at the sharpest part of you, that it made your mouth water.
But it felt a little different than pure sexual pleasure, and Beleth, noticing that, tapped Belphegor's on the side.
Beleth: Hey, Your Majesty. Gotta mind yer step if ya don't wanna tumble too far. Don't wanna make this our last dance, ya hear?
Belphegor: Oh, fer real? Ain't lookin' to get all riled up.
Belphegor scratched his head, enjoying the moment regardless of whether or not his body became a mess, or the person who was fucking themself standing up lost their mind or not.
With a rueful look, he then took the halo from back your head and put it back on his own.
Your vision brightened a bit again, and your hot stomach cooled a little. But your arousal hadn't cooled at all.
As your senses returned a little, you recognized Belphegor, who had looked like prey only moments before, as the heart-stoppingly handsome man he was, and you savored the pleasure of having him in your arms.
Belphegor also seemed to be waiting as the light returned to your eyes, and he spurred his hips, squeezing the back of your head hard enough to hurt a little.
Naturally, the sensation spread throughout your body as well, and you bit your lip as you felt your empty breasts and neck gripped firmly in his hands.
Belphegor: Ya held it down. 'Cause of you, I nearly got everything I wanted.
Maya: Nearly, everything...?
Belphegor: I wanted to know more 'bout ya, but this ain't quite enough.
Belphegor started to explain more, but quickly pulled an expression that said, 'Annoying.' and grinned.
Belphegor: Ain't got the patience. Should I twist it up and narrow it down again?
With an 'It's annoying-' Belphegor picked up the pace of his thrusts with the words, and you were left with your mouth open, unable to say anything, your chin quivering as you tightened the inside of your ass.
And just before the last syllable of his words ended.
Fwp!!!
Belphegor's cock pierced deep inside you in one swift thrust, leaving thrusting his smooth piercing in your most pleasurable spot.
MC: ...!!!!!!.... Ah....hh...!!!
As you tightened your muscles with every fiber of your being, Belphegor's body jerked and shuddered, spurting his cum inside of you.
But the very next moment.
Something hot and wet filled you, and at the same time, you felt a strange sensation from beneath you, where his cock was inserted into.
It felt as if you were being corrupted from there. As if your entire body was turning black from there.
MC: Bel, phegor, wait, my, body, feels, strange...
Your eyes and tongue were completely unhinged and dripping, and for a moment, as if you had borrowed the corrupted halo for a moment, you felt a black energy swirling through your body, energizing you.
You opened your mouth wide and swallowed Belphegor's lips, as if to feed another surge of ferocious lust that had just climaxed.
Your eyes and tongue were completely unhinged and dripping, and for a moment, as if you had borrowed the corrupted halo for a moment, you felt a black energy swirling through your body, energizing you.
You opened your mouth wide and swallowed Belphegor's lips, as if to feed another surge of ferocious lust that had just climaxed.
But just before your lips touched his, Belphegor chuckled and muttered, 'I liked that' and something bigger than your predatory arousal opened your mouth.
It was the black, silent, overwhelming aura that flowed from Belphegor's body.
He swallowed your lips as if he steal the moment, and your tongues entwined...
MC: (I'm being swallowed...?!)
The sensation of your presence, not your tongue, but your very existence, rushed past his lips, past his tongue, down his esophagus and stomach.
You were being sucked somewhere, in Belphegor's warped sense of time and dimension.
It felt like something sticky, hot, and narrow was swallowing your entire body, from head to toe, and then you were being sucked downward, downward, downward, into an unknown place.
There should be a few seconds of the highest point of pleasure, heightened as if time stood still, followed by a slow fading afterglow,
But in that slow buildup, your climax was at its peak the whole time.
MC: (It... feels... like... something... is... in... My... stomach...)
Finally, after the sensation of your body being pulled downward, you relaxed. It was a sweet languor that was unlike any post-sex afterglow you'd ever felt.
You thought that if you were going into someone's stomach the way you felt right now, you might as well be digested.
Slowly, your consciousness drifted away, and you drifted into sleep.
Plop.
Your body shuddered as the power drained from you, and Beleth reflexively sat up and took you in. The next moment.
Click-!
You heard Belphegor take a selfie in the full-length mirror on the wall.
Belphegor: Hand it over now.
Belphegor reached out to Beleth without even straightening his clothes, wet with sweat, cum, and Maya's saliva.
Beleth: Huh????
Beleth asked, startled into a rare look of stupidity, then recovered himself when Belphegor didn't ask, 'What.'.
Beleth: Would just one picture do? You said you wanted to take first place in that contest.
Belphegor: You want me to snap more? What a bother.
Beleth asked again when Belphegor still held out his arm as if to say, 'Give it to me.'
Beleth: You said you don't do sweet 'cause it's annoyin'.
Belphegor: Thought leavin' it be might be more of a hassle.
Beleth: Huh?
Belphegor: I'd feel like I'm missin' out. That feelin's the worst.
Beleth grumbled and looked at Belphegor, who took Maya's body from Beleth's arms and Beleth spat out a hollow laugh.
Beleth: You said you couldn't be bothered, but you went all the way. You chowed down on them again, huh? MC's one thing, but you gonna be so full you'll nod off again!
Belphegor: Don't rouse me for a bit. Reckon I'm fixin' to have a sweet dream.
Beleth: Just gotta jab at an insomniac underling, huh?
Without answering Beleth's words, Belphegor turned irresponsibly to the bed and laid you down, lying down beside you.
He stretched out one arm and placed it under your head... And within five seconds you were asleep.
Beleth: ...Even a tranquilizer gun'd put me to sleep slower'n that.
Beleth smirked, but still made sure to tuck Belphegor's covers over him, and his loving touch was no exception as you fell into a deep slumber.
Beleth: My. Clampin' your jaw like that'll give you nightmares.
He smirked as he gently stroked your chin, then suddenly yawned.
Beleth: ...Ugh, startin' to feel a mite sleepy myself.
Beleth folded his large body into a folding motion and snuggled down next to you.
For two people who had just done the most adult thing possible, there was a pleasant scent that ironically smelled like the flesh of a child.
Beleth: (...I'm sleepy...)
As Beleth settled down, Belphegor and you snuggled up next to him as if looking for pillows, and Beleth smiled pleasantly in his sleep, extending his arm to tuck it in under your head.
You fell asleep on the arm pillows of two men at the same time, and when you woke up, you were asleep and unaware of the world...
MC: ...Huh? When did I get back?
You woke up feeling refreshed, as if you had slept for days.
All of your senses were back to normal, and thankfully, you only heard the ticking of the clock or the rustling of the sheets once in the right direction.
But the afterglow of pleasure still lingering in your body didn't go away easily, so you quietly pulled the covers back up and slid your hand down between your legs.
MC: (It was like being digested naked... like being rolled around on someone's tongue in a big mouth and then swallowed...)
While you were masturbating alone in the quiet of your room, the winner of the latest Phenomenon's contest was announced outside.
His picture was plastered all over Hell, and everyone cheered like it was a festival.
It wasn't until late the next afternoon, when you fell into another deep sleep after another round of masturbation, that you heard the news,
And it was only after waking up after two weeks of contented slumber that Belphegor, the devil involved, heard the news.
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ifuckingloveryoshu · 9 months ago
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CANTO 6 PART 3 SPOILERS
Im beyond pissed, tumblr crashed in the middle of me doing this so this is going to be so much shorter than I want it to be. NON RYOSHU RELATED POST ABOUT THE HEATHCLIFF. DON'T TAKE WHAT I SAY AS FACT I AM NOT QUALIFIED FOR THIS. LOOK AT THE LINKS I CITE FOR MORE INFORMATION! You can click them when their mentioned. Im not citing in the proper format. This was done on 5 hours of sleep, two eggs, and a box of banana milk.
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The Erlkonig or Erlking is this figure in German Mythology who kidnapps children. When he touches you, he kills you. This poem made by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe then adapted to this song is what you see. Erlkoning Heathcliff is trying to intice Heathcliff to die by telling him that it's his fault Cathy is dead. All identities refer to the sinner as "child" when you look into their uptie stories. Mili and the singer of the video here use the same technique of changing the tone and pitch of their voice to differntiate two characters.
The Wild Hunt is a part of Norse Mythology where Odin, mounted on his sixed legged horse Sleipnir, goes through the forest. According to norse-mythology.org, anyone who gets caught up in The Wild Hunt, spotted or seen, gets carried away. Your soul will get incorporated into The Wild Hunt. We all know Erlking Heathcliff did, the rising of the bodies. The Wild Hunt is also mostly describe as having hounds, and who was a hound? Hindleys.
From the same website, on the page of Sleipnir reads,
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Also, the horse that heath rides on has a weird liney pattern on it's 4 legs that kind of look like that runestone. There's more connection here, I just don't want to type it again.
How did Project Moon mix two diffrent mythological ideas together? (Its not just two, they mixed so many more.) Meet human mistranslation and the progression of oral tradition and story telling throught time. I don't kno where to start. There was mistranslation poem when, according to ancient-origins.net Johann Gottfried Herder wrote a seperate ballad from the one I linked at the start called Erlkönigs Tochter.
The Anglo-Saxons were early German settlers. This is where things get messy because I have several more potential leaders of the Wild Hunt but here are two, King Herla and Herne The Hunter.
Herne The Hunter: Popularized by Shakespeare potentially from a play called The Merry Wives of Windsor. This man called Jacobb Grimm said that Hene The Hunter was related to Odin. Herne the hunter is this ghost. ( https://mythopedia.com/topics/herne-the-hunter ) Im trying to say there are other media that connect the Erlking to the Wild Hunt but its on Wikipedia so it makes it seem fishy. Another Link Here
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King Herla: A british king who attended a dwarf wedding. When he left the wedding, the world had changed. Unbeknowst to him, 300 years had passed and he was claimed to be missing. When his men tried to get off their horses, they turned into dust so they were stuck like that. Read it here, its short. Someone better and more credible than me summed the story up better than I did, historian Chrissy Senecal. Read right here. An additional link to cross refrence if you'd like. King Herla and Odin got conflated together when really, their diffrent people
I found this other website article about Wild Hunts which kind of brings me to the next thing, the Harlequinn. They weild clubs, their devils, the image of them is popularly joyful? Maybe goofy and lighthearted? Perhaps associated with cards? Matt, or Heathcliff's portrayal of Matt. Now, I'm looking at Wikipedia and I see this section.
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What do we have here? A mention of the Erlkönig, Dante's Inferno, masked, club weilding giant. Heathcliff's not giant but hes pretty tall, at least by my standards but whatever, im very short. DANTE'S INFERNO, Canto 11 and 12. What the fuck Project Moon, are you playing 5d chess?
Back on topic, Hellequin is the fairy king, and this figure pops up in German, French, Italian, and English folklore. I can't do proper research when all my search results are mixed with random junk and I'm becoming nutty. You will not normally be able to access this article without paying but here's the link anyways. Journal Article from this book on a section about horned deities made in 1922 speaks of a group of ghost riding, who are also huntsman.
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And also another mention of Dante's Inferno. The name, Herne The Hunter is mentioned again.
All and all, The link between The Erlkonig and The Wild Hunt isn't as wild and unexplainable as I originally thought. It's just so cool to see all these concepts intersect. There still so much to touch upon like the headless horseman refrence and the Dullahans, RYOSHU COMPARING THE WILD HUNT TO THE PARADE OF 100 SPIRTS, something along that line, I forgot the name. I'm just not the right person to yell about this but I will anyways. The writers mixed so many symbols of death into one character. Such a wild and nutty Canto. Thank you so much Project Moon.
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life-one · 1 month ago
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Honsetly... I feel like people always mischaracterized Starlow since the very beginning of her being in BIS and its weird to see that only now with Brothership, people are trying to give her a "second chance" even though she always owned up to most of her major faults in most of the games, while never meaning to personally attack Luigi's feelings while also having moments where she cares about Luigi in my opinion. ...But as a character, I'm 100% sure that's she's meant to be flawed in many ways and even snarky and blunt with her thoughts and words but at the end of day, still means well for Mario and Luigi regardless. Like, at least in BIS, if I can recall correctly, Starlow never called Luigi out of his name for the sake of a joke (and correct me if she did actually) like I really do get it if you just don't like her for whatever reason you have, but extremely hating her for mildly joking around with Luigi is odd to me since there are a lot of other characters that have disrespect Luigi before, and they never get smoke for it either? She's really not that bad as people made and still make her out to be and I could genuinely prob make a master post about this but even outside of that - the infamous BIS part where Starlow ragged on Luigi's crying was mistranslated and lost its tone as well in English (in my opinion) anyways to start with and its crazy that no one brought that up (as far as I know) So here actually, not the best at Japanese but I know enough to translate this:
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"Hmm? Luigi also helped too?"
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"Tee-hee. Anyways, he was only crying, right?" note: ufufu, うふふ is a more mischievous laugh and douse, どうせ, carries a dismissive tone here too!
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"Huh? In the end, Luigi defeated that alien?" note: no, の, at the end adds genuine shock or disbelief in this context instead of asking a straightforward question as well - seeking actual confirmation in disbelief!
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"Really?..."
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"Ah... um..."
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"Sorry, Luigi. You’re surprisingly amazing, huh?" note: gomenne, ごめんね is a more casual and empathetic apology then, gomen, ごめん, which can come off as insincere bluntness itself because of the added particle - ね! - while also softening the last sentence too. -
In the JP version... i feel like Starlow was teasingly but genuinely asking a question about Luigi to Mario, despite in a disrespectful and in "am right?" way, about his role the fight with the Shroobs - with her not believing that he could do such a thing. But then Mario actually informs her abut Luigi's win against the Shroobs, with it finally ending with Starlow noticing that she was being a massive jerk to him by saying something like that and genuinely apologizing and compliment Luigi out of some type of actual surprise. VS in the English translation where it just feels like Starlow is plainly just joking about Luigi's crying, while not carrying any real question behind it with Mario jumping in to tell her about Luigi win - with her apology and her even asking really seeming insincere and petty. ...even Mario's bit of speaking to Starlow makes more sense with the JP version rather than the English translation, since I feel like if this scene was originally made to rag on Luigi... Mario would have had a stronger reaction imo
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vashtijoy · 2 years ago
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I feel like you were asked about this but I'll ask just in case.
Does Akechi actually says "The same tactic is used in romance"? When you watch a TV after Nov 20
Hello! The answer is that yes, he really does:
Akechi 拠り所をなくしたところで、一番、敵だと思ってたやつが助け舟を出す。 yoridokoro o nakushita tokoro de, ichiban, teki da to omotteta yatsu ga tasukebune o dasu Once they lost public support, someone they thought was their greatest enemy lent a hand...
Akechi これ、恋愛とかの駆け引きと同じでしょう? kore, ren'ai to ka no kakehiki to onaji deshou? That's the same strategy used in romance, wouldn't you agree? [lit. that's the same sort of strategy as you'd use in a love affair or the like, don't you think?]
Have you ever thought, though, that this sounds like a huge red flag? "I swept in at their weakest point like I would do with a girlfriend"? Like, seriously, Akechi, you're discussing your pick-up artist activities on TV here? Do you really hang out with the guys on Central Street? not that I don't think this is pretty much the approach he would take
There is, of course, something lost in translation here.
駆け引き kakehiki does mean "bargaining", or "strategy". But that's not what it means in context:
「駆け引き」とは、気になる相手を振り向かせるために、押したり引いたりするテクニックのことですが、女性は相手の気持ちを確かめたくて不安になる気持ちから、「駆け引き」をする場合があると言われています。 kakehiki is a technique where you act hot and cold to make someone you like pay attention to you. Women in particular may use it out of anxiety, to test the feelings of their partner.
kakehiki is not just "a strategy". It's specifically acting on-again off-again to keep someone on the hook. Now, this is what Akechi has been discussing in his interview—how he opposed the PTs and then later supported them. So while "the same kind of strategy" etc is not really a mistranslation, the original line is explicit that it's about this on-and-off hot-and-cold manipulative method.
I don't get the impression that kakehiki has the crazy-ex-girlfriend vibe that it would have in English-speaking culture, btw; it seems like a much more acceptable thing. Which makes Akechi's line far more innocuous.
Akechi also says ren'ai to ka—"romance and so on". So this is not just a technique used in romance.
"it required a lot of courage"
One more thing I think is worth highlighting from this interview:
Akechi: Honestly, it required a lot of courage to openly oppose them when their popularity was at its peak. Akechi: I mean, people often lashed out at me online and whatnot.
Akechi has two TV interviews between 11/20 and the engine room. Especially in the second, he's doing what he always does—he tells the truth, while dressing it up. He tells you what really happened, while making it sound like something else.
This is why so many of his lines end up having two or three meanings. For instance, in the "unwanted child" interview, he says "It did make me feel somewhat dizzy... Perhaps my mind was worked up due to the major task I had undertaken"—all of which, of course, is true. He's just omitting to mention what that task was.
So what about drawing the PTs in and betraying them required courage from Akechi? Please don't tell me he was scared of people being mean about him online, though he won't have enjoyed it at all and I'm sure it did give him a bad time.
Was it just that he had to kill two people in real life, face-to-face?—something that, deplorable as it was, would have called for untold levels of resolve. Was it the depth of personal deception and acting talent that the whole Sae's Palace arc demands of him? Or was it something deeper? Something that spoke to deeper things in him, like his need for connection, and friendship? Like his need to be part of a group?
The more I look at the events surrounding Sae's Palace and 11/20, the more I think Akechi struggles with them on a personal level, and that he's supposed to be portrayed that way.
finishing up
Here's the scene:
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Notice, as they say, that his face never moves—the sprite never changes, his voice never wavers. This is almost routine; Akechi's TV manner is much more neutral and serious on the news than it is on daytime TV.
The thing is, Akechi isn't being interviewed as an expert here. This is a personal interview: "tell us how you caught the PTs, Akechi-san". It has much more in common with his daytime appearances. And honestly, it's not unprecedented for Akechi to show a little bit of emotion even on the news. You can see this on 7/18, when he's interviewed about Medjed. He doesn't get excited, but he does vary his sprites:
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So this lack of affect on 11/23, while not eyecatching, is peculiar. Because what's the context of this—what else is going on? Akechi is a hero now. He's brought an end to the terror of the Phantom Thieves. People are screaming his name; he is everywhere. He has almost everything he ever wanted, right?—though the last thing, the big thing, is still just around the corner.
You'd think he could manage at least a smile, whether the leader of the PTs just committed suicide or not. You'd think he could at least sound enthusiastic. And you can tell, actually, that he's trying for that. That "it's the same strategy used in romance" is classic daytime TV Akechi. It's the sort of thing he says with a wink to knock down cooing presenters on rainbow couches.
But he doesn't even smile. He doesn't really even change his tone. He could be reading from an autocue; his mask is locked in place. And in his next and last interview, we'll get a glimpse of what's going on behind that mask—and exactly how not self-satisfied it is:
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outofcontextbokumono · 2 years ago
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In your Allen post you mentioned Natsume is notorious for bad translations. That's super interesting, I had no idea! Is it more of spelling error stuff or just straight up mistranslations?
first of all great question anon!! it's kind of a mix of both, and it varies from game to game. most natsume dialogue just generally reads very clunky and robotic in the english versions, especially when compared to the newer games, where everyone has their own unique way of speaking, and you can usually tell who's talking just based on their mannerisms.
there's more general info on this topic + natsume's involvement with marvelous games in my masterpost here.
xseed's newer games obviously aren't immune to forgetting a few punctuation marks here and there, but natsume's was bad. like, "something about the games just feel Off and uncanny and there's no other way to explain it" bad.
i'm pretty sure it's just because the translators weren't native english speakers, so everything is translated super literally, but if you are one yourself it becomes blatantly obvious simply by looking at the dialogue for more than 5 minutes. this ranges anywhere from minor miswordings to lines that just don't make any sense at all no matter how many times you read them.
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and then there's stuff that's so messed up we don't even KNOW how it got there. like some of this shit i would 100% believe you if you just said the game got corrupted because if it isn't that then i can only assume the employees did a large dose of crack cocaine before translating these games. i'm talking like... entire lines that didn't even get translated. text so butchered its straight up unreadable. that one time they misspelled their own NAME in the startup screen. TWICE.
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and, last but not least, probably one of my all time favorite errors in a natsume game but one i'll never be able to post here because it's funny purely in context- and it is the singular line in harvest moon: friends of mineral town where the priest, carter, just speaks to you in fucking German
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this. this is the error i don't have even the SLIGHTEST explanation for. and, correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm 99.9% sure nobody else does either.
this was....just one line. just the one line of dialogue. where he speaks german. in a japanese farming game that was being localized into english.
at least with the untranslated kanji you have some general sense of how that happened. like, yeah, okay, they just missed a line, whatever. but this isn't even remotely close to the same situation. there should be NO german in this equation whatsoever. it's like if you did 2 + 2 and somehow got 17. and nobody looked over your paper and went, "hey, that doesn't look quite right, man, maybe you should fix that", so you just turned it in and for some reason not even the TEACHER questioned it, they gave you a full grade and a gold star and put your paper on the whiteboard clear as day for all your classmates to see. that's what this feels like.
I. do not think the natsume employees are okay can someone check on them for me
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December 19th, 73 days since October 7th
TLDR- I am sick of seeing Hamas propaganda here. People here are posting literal blood libels and mistranslated quotes.
After taking a break from social media for the rest of Chanuka, your favorite Zionist is back. Don't worry though, once again, people who never had any interest in this tiny piece of land, continue to tell me, a Jewish Israeli, that I have got my history and facts wrong, while they know better than I do. To that, I have 2 answers: 1. I am just a student who wants to live in peace. I am not a "zionist demon" or a "genocidal killer".
When I call myself a Zionist, all it means is that I'm a Jewish woman who would like to live peacefully in her homeland. I don't inherently support war or death from any side because I am a Zionist. 2. I actually live here, born and raised, and so were my grandparents. How delusional and condescending can you be to suggest that you, a Western person who only found out about this conflict a while ago on Tiktok, know better than an Israeli??? More on double standards Sometimes I wonder why most of you didn’t have such a strong reaction to any other war & civil war going on right now: in Ukraine/ Yemen/Congo and Syria**, etc. Considering the amount of antisemitic hate anons I've received I have a feeling why...
**Which directly affected the lives of most Palestinians.
As I've said in previous posts- It’s easy to throw around big words you don’t understand. There is no apartheid as all Israeli citizens have the same rights. - Gaza is not occupied by Israel- it’s been returned multiple times in history ( just to name a few: 1956,1987,2006...).
*Even when it was under Israel’s control, all it meant was that there were approximately 10 Jewish settlements in Gaza*. The Israeli military presence was to protect those people& prevent terror attacks.
Blood Libels
In addition to the lies and the poor mistranslations from Hebrew, I have also received \ seen an alarming amount of Nazi Propaganda. -you say that you’re anti-Zionist and not anti-Semitic, yet you use antisemitic rhetoric…
Comparisons between Israelis and Nazis -Comparing Israelis to Nazis is wrong on so many levels.
In case you aren't aware, the holocaust was a premeditated and carefully planned genocide, that lasted 6 years. 6 MILLION Jews were killed and all of their possessions were stolen. It followed hundreds of years of persecution, violence, and discriminatory laws. They were also starved and enslaved in different sorts of manual labor, in addition to being experimented on. They were held in Ghettos and concentration camps. In the aftermath of the war, Jews were completely driven out of their land and face prosecution across the world to this day. The existence of Israel allows Jews to live free of that. The Israel-Hamas war following October 7th is a war against a terrorist organization that invaded Israel and massacred its civilians. Unfortunately, due to Hamas' tactics, there are a lot of Palestinian civilian casualties. While they are wrong- the treatment of Palestinians and the bombing of Gaza are nothing like what the Nazis did.
Debunking some misconceptions I've seen on Viral posts here: -No, we Jews do not control the media and global banks. At least invent something new, this is giving Medivel blood libels used by the church lol. -We do not go around killing innocent Palestinian babies for fun. We have laws and a moral compass (Shocking I know). We do not go and kidnap people or rape women for fun either. Do you know who does that? Hamas, the terrorist organization. -We're not all white, this conflict does not revolve around race: There are many Jewish Israelis from the same countries that Palestinians originated from (i.e: Egyptian & Jordanian Jews ). -Israelis perceive Palestinians as lesser human'- This claim is usually supported by mistranslation of Hewbew and out-of-context Interviews. The phrase חיות אדם (Chayot Adam, savages, acting like animals) was obviously often used to describe Hamas terrorists who took part in the October 7th masssacre. We do not call or treat Palestinians as "animals" or savages. All of the referenced instances were about those Hamas terrorists.
-There isn't a 'Gaza Ministry of Health', it's all Hamas. The number of Palestinian casualties and other claims they make are not to be trusted. Most of the casualties are terrorists.
So what is my point?
It is important to note that am not ignoring any of the Palestinian deaths. I’m not saying they should die either. Please stop assuming I do!!
All I’m saying is that Israeli victims matter as well. For some reason, some people cannot comprehend that Israeli civilians do not deserve to die just because of where they live.
You wouldn’t call for the death of all Americans/ Europeans/ South Africans etc… while they committed actual genocide & apartheid.
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MP100 Divine Tree Arc analysis (yet again): Dimple and Honesty
ok so divine tree arc is my favorite mp100 arc bc of the intricately-written miscommunication and understandable character motivations on both ends, and it's written in a way where i've watched its episodes easily 20-30 times and STILL notice new things!
(long analysis under cut)
So I've noticed that there's a mistranslation in a line in episode 5. Mob asks Teru to "snap out of it" / "come to your senses", but Dimple's response got mistranslated to this:
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When I'd initially watch this, I wouldn't listen to the spoken line closely enough to notice the translation was faulty, and would always think "but...you ARE controlling him with brainwashing. why lie like that?"
What he says would translate more accurately to, "Unfortunately for you, Hanazawa is sane." I'm fairly sure he says it this way in reference to his previous line about how "Their personalities won't be any different". He's telling Mob that Teru's acting in a way he normally would, which is then emphasized by Teru insisting 'this is just another important thing in my life'.
And you might wonder why I'm so particular about this mistranslation! It's because making Dimple say "I'm not controlling him" would be a lie! Even if he's not controlling him as if using a remote control, he is brainwashing him, so that would still count as control! It would be a lie for Dimple to say this!
And that specific distinction made me realize something!!!!!
Throughout the conversation Mob and Dimple have in episode 5, Dimple never flat-out lies. What puts Mob off is that Dimple isn't being entirely honest, but Dimple never lies about things, instead he omits the whole truth.
Despite the 'carried away' conversation in episode 3 ending poorly, Dimple makes the offer again within the broccoli that he and Mob should achieve this godhood goal together, but Mob is so focused on getting Dimple to stop that he doesn't notice that this is Dimple's attempt at working together with him. (Mob himself notes this in ep 6: "You could've achieved it by yourself, but you asked me to join you. You trusted me before i trusted you")
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The problem here is that Dimple is overly prepared for things to turn into a fight. He knows that Mob could easily erase him because of the difference in their powers, so he specifically waits within the broccoli and uses its powers to his advantage in this encounter. Even when talking to him, Mob's upset that they aren't talking face-to-face, unaware that Dimple's hiding specifically because he's scared of Mob's rage. Dimple even ASKS "If you don't agree with me, won't you resort to force in the end?" to test the waters, and when Mob replies that he will, it turns into a fight.
And when Mob realizes this after more of Dimple's hiding behind powers, he asks if Dimple's scared of him only to be met with silence.
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Dimple doesn't lie by saying he's not scared of Mob, he instead just conveniently doesn't talk until he thinks he has the upper hand. Only when Mob finally collapses and notices his powers are being absorbed by the broccoli does Dimple chime in, because now he thinks he's winning this fight.
He brings up Tsubomi and tells the truth about his perception of her, that she seems like the type who wouldn't accept a confession from Mob if he were to try it. It's a genuine observation from him, it's Dimple's honest thoughts, he's not lying. The problem is that he uses this observation to segue into the Psycho Helmet point, and offers a faulty solution to Mob's worries by suggesting he just rely on power. (Similar to how back when Mob ran the marathon with the goal of confessing to Tsubomi if he got at least 10th place, Dimple offered to cheat and possess him when he wounded his leg.)
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This then causes more tension and the two start fighting again. And yet again, Dimple is omitting some of the truth. He thinks to himself about how powerful Mob should be at this point, and how to win a fight against him if things have to come to that. Usually Dimple will give his thoughts on a risky situation out loud, but here he keeps it to himself.
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Just like earlier when Mob asked if Dimple was scared of him, Dimple conveniently stays silent here instead of being upfront about his apprehension.
Mob is offput by Dimple's insistence on the Psycho Helmet goal, and says that 'this isn't you, it doesn't suit you'. Dimple realizes later on that he doesn't feel fulfilled by this goal, but in the moment he's horribly upset by the way Mob jumps to the extreme of saying 'everything he's doing is fake'. Dimple has wanted this godhood goal this whole time even if it started waning, so to be told something like that feels like an insult to his efforts and ambitions. ("Don't go casually denying the thing I've been wanting this whole time!")
Dimple attacks, but on instinct tries to ask if Mob is ok, but upon seeing Mob's rage flare up again, shrinks back and says that he's been trying to use Mob this whole time.
It reminds me of the conversation Reigen and Dimple had when Mob was in the Mogami mindscape. Reigen was able to identify that Dimple is not the type to openly admit that he's starting to care about Mob's well-being seperate from the ulterior motive of the long-term godhood goal, so he spoke to Dimple on his own terms, by implying that he'd miss out on the chance to selfishly manipulate Mob from the shadows if he left now. Even though Reigen briefly points out that he knows Dimple feels odd about being trusted (a wink and a nod kind of way of saying "I know you care about Mob's safety"), he focuses the main point of his persuasion on this dishonest "yeah sure but you want to manipulate him right?" question.
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Dimple fucking SUCKS at admitting he cares for people. The closest he gets by this part in the story is hyping Mob up, but that's because he can easily hide that behind "Well I'm just thinking of the long-term godhood goal, if I hype him up, he'll want to be a god more!". Even in the Mogami mindscape, Dimple reminds Mob of how much everyone ELSE cares for him! He'll worry for Mob's well-being and advise him against getting into dangerous situations, but will never flat-out say "It's because I care about you as a friend, I genuinely have gotten to the point where I want you to be safe outside of this goal". And so in this scene, he lacks the insight to realize he cares, and falls back into "...Well I've been manipulating him, I know that much.".
And so then we finally have the monkey shirt insults. It can be easy to misunderstand this as the first instance Dimple's 'been honest / stopped lying' since Mob entered the Divine Tree, but that isn't right! Dimple has been honest about his godhood goal and his intent to team up with Mob to achieve it, but he had also been omitting the truth to get to that goal. He stays quiet about how scared he is of Mob's powers, and Mob's realization that Dimple's being dodgy about something makes Mob doubtful of Dimple's true intent in turn.
When Dimple offers to team up with him, the fact that it has this immense power attached to it deters Mob.
When Dimple says that Tsubomi likely wouldn't be interested in him, it's followed by the offer of this immense power as a solution.
But when Dimple insults the monkey shirt, there's nothing attached. He's JUST disgusted by the shirt. Instead of something that can give him some sort of power, he speaks honestly about something mundane. (If anything, it's something that risks him getting hurt due to Mob's bad mood.)
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And THIS is why Mob says this line:
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What's threatened to drive this wedge between them, what's caused Dimple to become dodgy about his thoughts is this potential immense power the Divine Tree can give, as well as Mob's immense power he wields being seen as a threat by Dimple.
Mob entered the broccoli with intent to force Dimple to stop this plan entirely, and so it took him a while to notice that his power and anger had made Dimple feel like he had to prepare for a fight.
Dimple hid behind these new powers and tried to persuade Mob that they're amazing by doing things like showing off his new God form and its powers. But his initial refusal to ask himself why his godhood goal had been feeling empty made it so he tried to insist to Mob that these powers are great (Basically like a sunk-cost fallacy. It's what he wanted this whole time and what he'd put so much effort into, so it has to be worth it, right?).
So it's only when Mob realizes that powers are in the way of the conversation they're trying to have, do they begin to both look inwards and realize how their miscommunication had gotten so extreme.
And so from then on, Dimple is able to speak honestly without any ulterior motives.
(From here I'm tempted to get somewhat side-tracked and mention how the Divine Tree is a perfect symbol for immense power, and how it perfectly represents how Dimple had been trying to persuade Mob to abuse power initially in the series. He kept insisting powers are all-encompassing and can do ANYTHING in the beginning, and then his abuse of the tree's power leads to the Psycho Helmet entities trying to EAT everything and turn EVERYTHING into fuel for its own power. Power for nothing but power's sake. Some translations + the ENG dub somewhat skews their dialogue, but the Psycho Helmet entities speak in a very fragmented way, and don't ever refer to Mob as a person or with any person-related pronouns! They ONLY refer to Mob once and it's as "that." And so there's a horror there that this tree will consume ANYTHING for power. It's the epitome of the flawed ideology Dimple had at the very beginning of the series turned physical, so Dimple has to fight against it, and realizes the error in his ways in the conversation after said fight. So he is then sacrificed in a way to use his new immense power for a GOOD cause, to get rid of this threat. It perfectly puts that flawed ideology Dimple had at the beginning of the series to rest.)
...but this post was meant to be about observing the specific point that Dimple never flat-out lies in episode 5's conversation. A really subtle touch to the character writing in this arc, the fact that he's not just "evil again", but rather feels the need to prepare for a fight with underhanded means. He's not lying, he's omitting more of the truth than he usually does.
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jazpers-vampyr-kronikkerz · 8 months ago
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Okay! Nosferatu lore
Nosferatu 1922 is based on Dracula the book and all tha,t so the basic plot is the same, but it has some differences that make it its own thing.
Firstly, Count Orlok. He's some sort of a demon, a manifestation of human sin, created as punishment for mankind, who feeds on blood and whose "spell" can cause someone to "lust after blood without reason" (we'll talk about that later). He also shares many characteristics with a rat and has a bunch of rats, who he uses to spread the plague (we will also discuss the plague, maybe). I've had a previous theory, based on two lines which may or may not have been a slight mistranslation, about him being a human who died during the Black Death and reborn as a vampire. But, not sure if that is quite it. Maybe some mix of the two. The script also mentions portraits of his ancestors, which, I don't think demons really have those. What matters is, by the start of the story he poses as a Transylvanian Count, who wishes to purchase property in Wisborg (made up place) in Germany (real place).
In doing so, he reaches out via a very cryptic letter full of unintelligible symbols to a house agent. People call him Knock. What is going on with Knock is unclear - one thing we know for sure, he has some sort of a connection with Orlok. He and Orlok have known eachother before we were introduced to them, since Knock knows how to read that weird mess of letters. Later, Knock becomes the renfieldddddd. Goes mad, starts eating bugs, establishes a psychic connection with Orlok and senses his approach, all that shit, you know how it is. Thing about Knock; Orlok can't really turn people into vampires unlike Dracula, so Knock probably doesn't inherit the other guy's motivation of becoming a vampire. That's where the "spell" line from before comes in. Many have theorized that Knock has been brainwashed into serving Orlok, that seems like a viable explanation to me. Knock is much more devoted, I'd say, even if he's not that useful. He stays loyal until the very end, and either dies or becomes sad when Orlok dies. It's possible that he has been brainwashed and turned into a servant, very likely in fact. I choose to ignore it, excuse the "spell" as love or some shit, and Knock going mad and eating bugs is just how gay people get sometimes when separated by a long distance. We've all been there.
Back to the beginning; Knock hands the task of selling the house over to Thomas Hutter, his employee, a man whom I shall not call a twink but still have the urge to. Thomas Hutter is a very unsuspecting man, probably numbed to it all by the long-term effects of working for someone like Knock, a giggling lunatic (i say this lovingly). Oh. Did I mention that the Hutters are shown to not have the most wealthy lifestyle, and Knock is described as "paying his employees well", and he also tells Hutter that he might get quite a lot of money from the deal (at the cost of just a bit of blood)? I think you can see the themes here. Well, Hutter takes up the journey. Instantly regrets it (I mean, not really instantly. It took him long enough. As I said, a very unsuspecting man). Enough about him let's talk about his wife. He loves his wife, that's what he would have wanted, trust me.
Ellen Hutter! Introduced as Thomas Hutter's wife, indeed, she is. She is a kind woman, I'd say, extremely so - the first line we hear from her is her "Why did you kill those beautiful flowers?" in response to Hutter bringing her a boquet. Normal reaction, don't worry about it. The two are shown to have quite a happy life, they love eachother; that is, until Orlok sees Ellen's portrait, compliments her neck and decides to go to Wisborg to get the blood. When he tries to drink from Hutter, we see that Ellen also has some sort of a telepathic connection, either with Hutter or Orlok, who knows, thing is, she calls out to Hutter and wards Orlok off. So, we've got two telepaths tied to some men. We'll come back to that later. Both Hutter and Orlok arrive to Wisborg; Hutter has a book from which he learned about Orlok (also called Nosferatu), but refuses to let Ellen read it. Not sure why, maybe he thinks that everything he saw was just a hallucination created by the book after all? Anyway, the Plague from Orlok's rats sets in. Ellen has no choice but to investigate; in doing so, she finds out that to destroy Orlok and earn redemption, a willing sinless maiden must sacrifice herself and let Orlok drink her blood until sunrise, until Sun gets him. Ellen, unlike Hutter, instantly knows what she must do. And she does.
ooo :3
i mixed up the names but i’m somewhat sure orlok is the … ratty looking one ??? i think knock is the sorta round fella
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thefool0nthehill · 5 months ago
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Hi there I'm in a weird , random, and pointless headcanon mood so here's some miscellaneous Kefka headcanons I have. Tell me which ones u agree with and which ones are dead wrong , for science reasons
•Autistic. I don't think I really need to explain myself because I think you all already know it but I'd gladly do so if i needed to.
•VERY picky eater. To me he'd be one of those people you just never see eating anything and on the rare occasion they do, it's either candy or something fucked up like a ketchup and potato chip sandwich....
•on the subject of food for some reason I feel like he'd have a crazy sweet tooth, and eat a lot of sweets and candy all the time. (Clearly if there's one thing I don't believe this man can do its eat reasonably) I can't remember if this is even MY headcanon or if I got it from someone else's posts/fanfiction and it stuck in my brain's personal made up lore collection, so if ur reading this and I just stole your headcanon sorryyyyz💔
•No attention span. That's all.
•Not everyone will vibe with this one because I know historically in fandom we like to keep our mentally ill characters desirable and lightheartedly quirky but.. hoarder. Maybe a bit more random junk than trash but I've always had a feeling that wherever this dude lives, good luck finding %89 of the floor.
•If that last one doesn't make sense, I'll elaborate on how I see his mental state and motivations personally and maybe it will help. For me Kefka's obsession with destruction and the absurd concept of ending EXISTENCE as a whole is indicative of an obsessive grasping for control.
Maybe the surface level of his character doesn't indicate a desire for control, but I think stealing more and more power until he's drained and obliterated an entire civilization, then stealing it from literal gods regardless of the cost, and then sitting shut up in a tower nuking anyone who dares to maybe have hope or speak out against him absolutely does. So does the whole megalomania theme in and of itself.
And y'know, the whole mind controlling Terra thing does too, since if control wasn't a motivator for him, only destruction for the sake of it, he'd let Terra run amok I think.
The poisoning at Doma kinda reeks of it for me too, it shows not only his lack of impulse control and lack of value for human life but also a secret third thing no one talks about which is how everything has to happen when he wants, in the way he wants it to. Even if he has to sneak behind other's backs and get himself in trouble to achieve that.
So to me, I think that among other motivations, he knows the only way he can control everything is to destroy it. He's pissed when he gives his little monologue and the main party disagrees, he can't convince them away from their reasons that life is worth living to them. So he'll destroy them all, so that no one will be left to resist him or call him down.
Aaaand drawing that all back in , you see a lot of people with hoarding disorders who have struggled a lot in a hectic, unpleasant life and a subconscious need for something you can control and take comfort in is filled by stuff. (Gee , ask me how -I- know)
•This could be %100 canon, could be mistranslated or %100 made up, so there's really no telling if this is a headcanon or not. But anyone seen that translated Ultimania profile from a gameFAQ post like 15 years ago? I've been taking every word of it as canon because it's just so on point with details that make sense and make him more fleshed out and interesting. Here are some favorites
•In his little bio thing with his age, height,(5'5 which is canon to me for ever and ever) etc , for likes it just says
"Likes: Mirror "
same. Me. King shit. truest and most relatable thing ever.
•"- After spiraling into insanity, Kefka starts to wear makeup and garish clothing, acting like a complete buffoon. His behavior changes and his patterns of speech deteriorate."
this is just what happened to me when I turned 20. give the man a break . hes just a girl in the world
•Theres a lot in there about him collecting dolls, playing with them, and dressing them/doing their makeup like he does his own. And just a lot in general about his more feminine interests and tastes (because it's the 90s/2000s and unfortunately we have to show the bad crazy guy is bad and crazy by making him gnc methinks)
I love this aspect of Kefka's character very very dearly. That is all.
And there's many more details there I appreciate but just don't feel like writing down but I could in a part two if anyone enjoyed reading this. Lmk what u think and if I cooked or didn't cook because I love talking to ppl about the funny man...
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emblemxeno · 1 year ago
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I've been playing Fates again (thanks gay fates mod ily kiss kiss) and after (re)reading through counter-critiques of its story and generally thinking about it again I'm kinda left with the following thoughts and wanted to share as you're our resident Fates Was Good, Actually blogger.
a) so much of Fates critique falls into cinemasins-level "this isn't explicitly stated therefore BAD" territory (or otherwise stuff that shouldn't be, and often isn't, a problem in other games in the series)
b) we wouldn't need to bring up the Japanese script in contrast with the localization in the first place if the fandom hadn't completely poisoned the well in regards to talking about Fates' story. I had no idea about any of the localization changes my first play-through and I still thought Fates' plot was fine. Good, even!
The fatescourse is what made me leave the fandom around the time 3H came out, and every time I take a peek back in the subreddit or other fandom spaces it still seems to be just as much of a toxic cesspool as ever. Which sucks because I want to talk about Blorbo from my Emblems again, but I really don't want to have to deal with The Discourse & general toxicity
Hope you don't mind me posting this!
I feel you 100% and the sentiments are very appreciated, thanks!
For your first point, yeah, that's what it feels like. Saying it's CinemaSins-esque feels like a low blow, but it honestly does remind me of those videos. And they aren't meant to be actual critique! They're sarcastic entertainment and little else! But so much of Fates criticism is "why doesn't X just do Y? never explained by in-game text, so therefore story bad" or "why isn't Z plot point expanded upon? game never tells me so story bad." It's cheap and shallow, above all else. It's reminiscent of the Blue Curtains literary discourse, in that people only go with what's written explicitly rather than connect the dots from plot point to plot point. You're supposed to connect Azura's pacifying song to Mikoto's pacifying magic to Valla's history of magical development due to being directly blessed by Anankos; same with the crystal ball, water motifs, and future sight, those are all Valla-centered traits. But because the game never says "oh this is because of Valla", people think the place is just a nameless evil nation with no history or unique aspects.
For your second point, god, yes. Soooo many take any localization criticism as either a) alignment with unsavory anti-censorship anti-sjw chuds who are mostly complaining about not getting to boink lolis or b) not worth the time because "it wasn't gonna make a bad story any better anyway" which is such a gutter thing to say because localizations have literally changed things and removed crucial information in the series before Fates. The big examples being stuff with the Black Knight in the Tellius games, the long script removal in Radiant Dawn, and lines relating to Nergal's backstory in FE7 being mistranslated. Awakening had its share of localization discourse and criticism due to characters like Henry being changed, as well.
And I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a little resentful that 3H of all games is when people started giving a shit, cuz now that a "good game with a good story is being affected, it's now worth our time."
Plus this shit is still happening, considering that FEH consistently gets stuff wrong or mistranslated to this day.
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talistheintrovert · 2 years ago
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OKAY. let's clarify some stuff for people who are confused:
the entire episode is not a dream sequence. aside from that just being lazy, it's also not what the editing is communicating. this show is very good at editing in a dreamlike, slightly disjointed way; it's part of what contributes to it feeling so intimate and personal, and nothing about that editing really changed in episode 6 except for when it got dramatic RIGHT at the end, but i'm gonna address that particular tone change under the cut for those who want spoilers
the show intercuts flashbacks throughout, even dispersing flashbacks of what appears to be the same scene (therapy) through multiple episodes, and intercutting current dialogue with flashbacks (jaewon's brother flashbacks with his father's voice). the last five minutes MIGHT be a flash forward, which means that a lot of the coupley stuff left from the trailer could be coming up in episode 7 either as a lead-up to the inevitable or afterwards in flashback form, but again, i'm leaving my personal thoughts on that for under the cut
ALSO, he definitely says "boyfriend". he says "남자 친구" which literally translates to "namja - man, chingu - friend" and used together like that is the colloquially understood term for "boyfriend" in korean; it is sometimes shorted to "남친" (namchin) but BLs haven't reached that point yet. REGARDLESS, even though that technically translates to "male friend" SO DOES FUCKING BOYFRIEND. the only other word is "애인" (aein) which you may have heard, but it's gender neutral.
the context of that interaction is important. he says friend, the attendant clearly notices the implication and says "oh a girlfriend?" and he responds with "no, a boyfriend" and then the cashier gives him romantic fireworks. it was not an accident or a mistranslation. just because jaewon is closed off and masks does not mean he's like that about everything all of the time. like he says to jihyun, its easier to talk to him because he doesn't know his baggage. and as somebody who is very similar to jaewon I find it so easy to say things to strangers that I struggle to articulate to my friends. I come out to people as soon as I meet them but coming out to my friends was hard. it just be like that sometimes.
the last thing is a spoiler of what's actually happening in that last scene in relation to the movie version of this show that came out, so if you don't want to see those, simply do not look under the cut:
jihyun is not dead, nor is he a figment of jaewon's imagination. it is not a dream sequence or a fakeout - jihyun does almost drown and it does utterly fuck jaewon up.
that is literally the only spoiler i know from the movie because i saw it by accident and then noped out of the comments section of MDL and banned myself from going in there because i hate being spoiled, but it's actively starting to worry me just how many people are convincing themselves that it's all a dream or a fakeout who are going to be really distressed next week when it turns out not to be.
i'm all for collective fandom delusion (i was in The 100 fandom for years) but this seems like the kind of thing that, as somebody who is also a mentally ill queer person who gets WAY too attached to media, could be really damaging to everybody the longer this week goes on without answers and the collective fandom delusion spirals out of control.
(and hey, maybe this spoiler is a lie, or maybe the show is being edited differently to the film, but i still think it's HIGHLY unlikely all of that was just to trick us for no reason. that doesn't really align with the story they're telling)
take a breath like jihyun can't and remember there are FOUR WHOLE EPISODES LEFT. maybe the show will end tragically or bittersweet but i don't believe they'll do that in a way that is designed to actively hurt us. this is a show made by queer people, for queer people, and they foreshadowed from the start that this was going to happen. it's not a dropped plot point or a fakeout or an accident of editing - everything is VERY intentional.
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