#DEAN DOESN'T SEE THAT
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it drives me up the wall that the first time we really see dean do anything that even remotely resembles praying, it's on his own deathbed in an out of body experience. he spent all of the first season trying to find a father that didn't want to see him, trying to keep his brother out of trouble that always ended up right in front of them anyway, spent years, years, doing a job that has dragged him down, and the first time we see him beg for help is when he's already almost dead. and even then, even then, it's not to angels, or a demon, or god, it's to his father. john winchester sits beside dean's bed as his son is a ghost and dean screams at him in confusion and frustration and fear, because he did everything his father ever asked of him, hunted monsters, saved people, saved sam, always followed orders, and here john sits, just watching. dean paces around the room as a reaper comes for him and watches as his father just sits there. "you haven't called a single person. after everything i've done for you? you're just gonna give up on me?" after we just watched in the season one finale that dean is laying on the floor bleeding out and begging sam not to kill their father. 'please, it's the one thing i can't stand, please don't separate our family any more than it's already divided. please, don't kill dad. we can find another way to kill the demon, but we can't do this without dad. i have served him my whole life and i love him and both of those things hurt.' and the very next fucking episode, the season two opener, we watch dean come as close to praying as he's ever come, and it's to his father. it's to john, who is just watching. dean's first prayers literally fall on deaf ears.
#'but john sacrifices himself to-' DEAN DOESN'T KNOW THAT#DEAN DOESN'T SEE THAT#and not to fucking mention that john's last words to dean are to warn him that he might have to kill his own brother if sam turns out evil#'dean i'm sorry i wasn't a better dad. i'm sorry i always put so much pressure on you and made you feel like you had to tell me everything-#'-was gonna be all right when it should have been the other way around... anyway my final words to you are gonna be more pressure :)'#sorry to everyone and anyone who follows me rn#i'm rewatching supernatural for the first time since i was like 13 and it's really getting me#dean winchester is so character#supernatural#smooth noob rewatches supernatural#dean winchester
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okay but you see sam has ALSO fallen for dean's act. sam also believes dean to be the macho, daddy's soldier, beer boobs cars guy he presents himself as. this is why sam makes fun of dean whenever he even lightly steps out of that mold and thinks it's harmless banter instead of attacking an insecurity. it's why he laughs when john talks down to dean in the early seasons and it's why he seems surprised when dean is more comfortable with himself in the later seasons. it's why he just scoffs but doesn't push it when dean puts up a front and refuses to talk about his emotions and just accepts whatever excuse he makes at face value. it's why he offers dean a strip club to make him feel better when cas dies. and this isn't his fault!! dean has spent a very long time perfecting this image in front of everyone and ESPECIALLY to sam because along with it comes safety and security and stability and the only person. who has consistently been able to see through it. is castiel
#charlie also a bit bc dean doesn't have to be desirable to her as a man or as a son#altho i would argue that she doesn't see through him he just doesn't perform as much for her. cas actively sees through it#this is why sam has never caught on to dean being queer also. btw. dean isn't closeted he's just never made a big deal of telling sam#you never really know your parents just the version of them they want you to see etc etc#anyway this is also why sam is thought to be More Sensitive in comparison#by people who have also fallen for the Act. i call this the General Audience Dean Act#because it was who he was SUPPOSED to be from kripke's pen until jensen went ummmmm no. he has trauma :) and forcibly gave him layers#this is also not samcrit btw i always need to clarify that#i am bad at sam studies but i think you could also write posts (and ppl have) about how dean doesn't truly know sam either#bc he has Little Baby Brother zoned him forever even though he is almost 40 by the end of s15
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A devastating and confusing thing about the Fallout setting, when you explore the pre-war aspects, is what the creators think about pre-war America. In the first games we only get hints of the pre-war world, but they seem to be some sort of wild fascist nation invading Canada. In Fallout 1, the first thing we're introduced to of the pre-war society is seeing a soldier shoot civilians and laughing.
Now, for the first 2 games and New Vegas we don't really know much. What we know is that there's a fascist military group known as the enclave who were a sort of US deep state even before the war, and that the government teamed up with corporate interests to preform vaguely MKULTRA-ish experiments with the Vaults. Basically, the government was an extreme version of the 50s American jingoism and McCarthyism.
This is well and dandy, I guess issues come up more when we get to the later games, especially 4, where it seems like none of this extreme plotting and societal civil unrest which would exist is seen. The society as presented in 4 also seems quite progressive, gay people are featured in the opening, and none of the baggage of say, civil rights not existing are included. Now on a baseline, I don't want settings to be more conservative, homophobic and sexist etc., but it becomes a very confusing setting when it's displayed both as this jingoist extreme thing with fascist tendencies aswell as a progressive place where everyone is seemingly equal. If you're focusing on the 50s as your setting, and American nationalism in the 50s, then you can't have McCarthyism spoofs and anti-communism as a societal paranoia norm while also general equality is the norm without misunderstanding why McCarthyism and nationalist jingoism is bad. A massive harm done in anti-communist paranoia is how it degrades and vilifies any progressive movements (women's rights, civil rights, homosexuality) as being morally un-American and therefore connected to communism. To ignore this just makes any critique of MacCarthyism and jingoism weird!
Basically, pre-war America in Fallout 4 becomes this both sides thing where America is both pure and equal and white fences in every instance that we see as the player (the intro), while also supposedly being this dystopic MacCarthyist hellscape that's broadcasting gladly about their war crimes in Canada, and wants to root out communism. I guess the only fix for this issue without getting into the fine print like they had to do is just not to focus too much on the pre-war world.
#fallout#fallout 1#fallout 2#fallout 3#fallout 4#fallout new vegas#fo1#fo2#fonv#fo4#I'm almost half-way through the show#it suffers from this too but whatever I'm just going to count it as it's own thing#it gets a pass or whatever. telling a video game story and telling a tv-series is completely different#they can do what they think is useful.#We see a bit of what the I'm talking about in New Vegas with mr house being able to be that rich etc#but new vegas cares more about the fallout of Fallout 2 + new ideas than some pre-war America. The most we get is like Poseidon energy and#Raul. but Raul doesn't really care that much about the details of the past world#his life seems pretty normal. it's not that important.#dead money and owb did this like... Okay. wasn't too bad it was fine. I don't like those DLCs too much. Dean Domino is whatever
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Whenever fanfiction has Dean say he hates Cas’s coat or thinks it's stupid or ugly and he wants to see Cas out of it as soon as possible I simply must disagree. He kept that thing for a whole year full of rank water. He saw Cas back in his usual getup and gotar bonar. Dean loves cartoons. He loves costumes. He loves Cas’s coat.
#he wants to jerk off on it. who said that.#he wants to jerk off on it both on the outside (marking his territory) and on the inside (intimate and defiling.).#he wants to wear the coat and nothing else and jerk off and then give it back to Cas while it's still warm from his body.#idk who said that must have been the wind#this is a passing thought I haven't seen this recently#Dean does ALSO very much enjoy seeing Cas dressed up but he LOVES base Cas who wears the same outfit every day#am i projecting because I always dismiss when cas is described in other clothes and imagine him in the trench coat anyway. yes.#but there is textual evidence that dean likes the coat#also his 'you think it's crappy 🥺' 'eye of the beholder' comment#even if he DID think Cas's coat was lame. which he doesn't!!! he could never say it to him
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I'm sure this has already been done, but I was rewatching Two Towers and I could not unsee the parallels of Aragorn trying to return Arwen's necklace and the mix tape scene from 12x19 🫠
#destiel#spn#dean winchester#castiel#lotr#two towers#supernatural#the brain rot is always rotting#it's even better because there's no way Ramble On wasn't on that mix tape#i actually love that the parallel is that Dean is Arwen bc i feel like that is how Cas would view them (even though he is an immortal being#like Cas would for sure think of himself as the man not living up to his potential who isn't worthy of this ethereal and wonderful person#who loves them enough to be the one to let go (even though the other person doesn't want the sacrifice)#And Dean is Arwen who is besotted and so in love and thinks it is so obvious that they are all in and showing love through precious gifts#but of course the other person (Cas/Aragon) is clueless and is pulling away because they think it's for the best of the other person#oh and there's the whole we-are-inherently-different-and-one-of-us-will-outlive-the-other agony#although i could see it the other way too because Arwen (as an elf) is very angel coded and the whole giving up immortality bit#someone take away the keyboard before I start writing a thesis#unrelated: anyone have any elf!Castiel/human!Dean fics they want to recommend 😂
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I'm breaking this one out by itself because it's a little funny.
*Dean's phone rings*
*Dean answers without looking*
*Dean proceeds to yell at Cas*
Ah, right. What could possible be so important?
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Sam goes on to tell Dean that *drumroll* Sam is Lucifer's true vessel.
WOW! Scary!
DEAN: *sarcastically* Just when you thought you were out, they pull you back in, huh Sammy? SAM: That's it? That's your response?
It's... completely lost of Sam, though, the REASON for Dean's sarcasm.
See. It's this: now that Sam's found out that HE'S a vessel, he's in his car, an absolute FIRE lit under his goddamned tail, EAGER to get back in and fight.
Sam.
SAMMY.
🤦🤦🤦🤦
Dean throws a hint.
DEAN: *sarcastically again* I guess I'm a little numb to the earth-shattering revelations at this point. SAM: Well what are we gonna do about it?
And Sam... still doesn't get it.
Sigh.
Here's the thing. Sam wasn't panicking when they learned that Dean was a vessel. Only Cas and Bobby were panicked and stressed. They were mean, but they were at least aware of the reality of things.
But Sam.
Yes, Sam was going through things, struggling with things, and taking time to go through things is okay. But on the other hand, it definitely still hurts that Sam wasn't insisting on staying in the fight on Dean's behalf, to protect Dean from becoming a vessel.
But now that Sam's learned that he's a vessel?
Boom.
It's not even that, though. It's this whole conversation.
Because what's missing here? Empathy for Dean's plight.
Sam doesn't realize that this is why he's perpetually at... the kids' table. This right here.
In this whole conversation, Sam is eaten up with ranting about his own feelings, about how he's sick of being a puppet, and how he's going to hunt Lucifer down and gain redemption.
Sam's all about "how he can do this," how he's "gonna prove it to you."
It makes him seem a lot younger than he is.
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There's no acknowledgment of how helpless Dean must have been feeling all this time, knowing that he's been targeted by an archangel, about how scary this whole thing is.
Hell, even Cas acknowledged Dean's fears re: Michael.
I mean: He did it in his Cas way, but it still acknowledged the enormity of the fear.
Cas:
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Meanwhile, Sam back in 5x01, right after DEAN learned about being Michael's vessel: Geez, why is everyone so cranky and stressed?
🥺Dean, what do you mean that you didn't mean your pep talk to Bobby? Whaaaat? 🥺
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And the thing is. Not "getting it"? That's understandable. But this conversation is just... devoid of support for Dean.
And they're not. Sam's zapping all the strength for himself.
When they've been together lately, Dean is the big brother who lends support, and Sam isn't giving anything back. Sam's out to prove himself, not to support others.
And they tell older siblings and parents to be patient, to let them learn, to step back and forgive, to be "a soft place to land."
That's hard to do. And it's exhausting.
And aside// Sam's apology to (demon) Bobby was SO MUCH NICER. Sam, where is this humility and energy for other people????
SAM: No, actually. Bobby, this is all my fault. I'm sorry. Lilith did not break the final seal. Lilith was the final seal. I killed her, and I set Lucifer free. You guys warned me about Ruby, the demon blood, but I didn't listen. I brought this on. I'm sorry.
#i think sibling jail is my fave new thing#GO TO SIBLING JAIL SAM#when sam is a vessel he expects everyone to panic#when dean is a vessel sam's just like: yay go team let's go#spn 5x04#spn 5x05#aside it's fun for dean to yell at cas at this point#he likes that cas is annoying him#and he likes making a fuss about it#i'm 99.999% sure i'm correct#it's part of the fun in bickering with someone who cares about you and is willing to disagree with you#dean doesn't get that form many people#it's probably comforting that cas calling him has become a regular part of his day#also i'm pretty sure there was a whole episode where sam AND dean are in a bratty fight and not thinking about bobby#but like#that kind of immaturity is expected sometimes#but there comes a point when...sigh#yes it's a very normal very frustrating part of life and growing up#to see your childhood caregivers as people#and hey from time to time dean puts too much on bobby on cas etc#it’s a scary tho to be alive
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FAMINE: That's one deep, dark nothing you've got there, Dean.
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dean and his father. dean and his family. dean and how bad it is.
(via @closetoyou1970)
#spn#vid#mind the warnings on this one for real#woe! fruit of my rewatch be upon ye.#pallas calls this my 'deangirl coming out vid' which honestly. true. but those who paid attention know i've always been a deangirl.#also. after this no more deanwinchester rilo kiley amvs I Pwomise#anyway. i'm not gonna give a full commentary here but a big reason why i chose this song is that the narrator#is essentially dismissing her own problems and instead watching the problems of someone else#and i kind of wanted to play with that theme. this is the parallels show so let's do some parallels. lots of things happen to characters#that are Like Dean somehow. either in personality or circumstance. that we know or can infer happen to him. but we don't see it bc it's#not sayable. not speakable. so like for an easy one. we see meg being tortured in caged heat. she also talks about apprenticing under#alastair just like dean. so i show her being tortured [in a way that is sexualized and demon-specific] and reacting how she does#because i invite the audience to imagine or interpret that this has also happened to dean at some point. we just don't see it#so there are many dean parallels in this video. some obvious. some subtle but textual. some products of my twisted mind. but that's the way#i am using them to make my argument.#oh also: dean voice sam's eyes going black is JUST like when he used to fight with dad and wouldn't listen to me when i told him not to.#i guess also the point is that because it's unsayable. dean can't say it. dean can't even acknowledge it. and so it bleeds through#into everything in his life#that's why it's important that the song narrator doesn't take her own problems seriously. dean doesn't either.
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Sam, getting to know Dean in season 1.
#was there even anything he knew about dean. like...#i wonder if it's because dean has changed a lot during the four years they were apart#or if sam was too young/immature to actually see dean past his exterior before stanford#probably a mix of both. but it's so interesting because the idea he had of him doesn't have anything to do with the actual dean!!#sam winchester#dean winchester#supernatural#spn season 1#corespnedit#.anna#also psst this is why it's dumb to call dean a creep just because sam once implied that dean would sleep with minors#like sam at times tends to see him as worse than he is!#like when he can't believe dean actually loved cassie or cares about saving a kid's life#so - don't trust too much what he says about him#in particular because all of the women dean actually slept with were roughly the same age as him or older#(aside from the fact that sam was probably joking that time)
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"sam how do you not remember-" umm his OWN CHILDHOOD WHAT DO YOU MEAN???
#l literally told myself today I shouldn't be drowning so many posts and then I see this which means it is my divine right to drown posts#I also think the “dean doesn't correct him” is interesting because not only do they believe everything sam says and thinks about his own-#childhood is wrong if it doesn't align with the fanon deangirl version but dean is so noble he will even agree-#with sam's Cruel Fake Memories 😔#like absolutely INCREDIBLE thing the fandom does that the canon fact of sam making his own dinners as a kid is Wrong because it comes-#from sam's mouth but it is accepted without debate that 4yo dean was changing diapers and cooking up a five course dinner every night-#because that's what they've collectively hallucinated#ANYWAY#salmon dean#5x06#hell fandom
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maybe my most controversial headcanon is that I see dean as a straight man and sam is his only exception
#when in fics he's written as an openly bisexual dude who has slept with men before I'm like...#it's not like that would make me dislike the fic or anything. I see the vision I get it. but it doesn't ring true#to the dean that lives inside my head yk?#the only bi!dean I genuinely enjoy is the repressed one who has never even been with a dude and genuinely thinks he's straight#why the fuck did I end up writing so much more in the tags than in the original post lmao
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I don't get why Gabriel and Anna are pictured as good perfect positive siblings in fanon when they literally abandoned everyone and spend much time saying the same stuff as Heaven (you have to accept your fate, angels don't feel, etc, etc).
Maybe they physically got away, but they didn't get free of the cult thinking and they have many issues because of it. Hope that helps 👍
#let the angels be fucked up#gabriel kills dean hundreds times to convince sam to become lucifer's vessel#because the apocalypse HAS to happen#anna looks at cas and tells him he can't feel because he's an angel and her behavior changes completely when she has/doesn't have grace#we see other angels losing their grace and they don't act *like that*#she's dissociating so much and projetting her issues#spn gabriel#anna milton#spn angels#canon vs fanon#my post
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mr ackles pls make destiel canon for once and all so I will no longer be resentful towards my tumblrinas for their reciprocated gay ships amen
#doesn't apply to 911 because not reciprocated#yet#and neither go I guess#i just#im just hyperbolizing here ok#just need to see dean and cas kiss#and i know so do you so#destiel#supernatural
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there is something about dean's hands. trembling hands checking sam's body for injuries, stitching his wounds. hands that hold sam's face with care, adoration, concern. a clap on sam's back, a squeeze on his shoulder for comfort. touching as reassurance. but also: gripping sam's long hair and pulling. one big hand wrapped around sam's throat, the pressure just right. stuffing two of his thick fingers in sam's mouth because he can be so noisy. grabbing sam's waist and ass with both hands, fingers splayed, grip firm and possessive. hands that take and demand.
#hands that hurt sam when he gets out of dean's control#accusatory pointing fingers when sam doesn't do as dean wishes#devoted!dean & controlling!dean can and do coexist#wincest#samdean#i cannot see a single screencap of dean's hands on sam without my mind going There
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it's still so interesting to me that there's this lasting perception in fandom that dean is the one who doesn't want sam to have any relationships outside of the two of them and not the other way around when all evidence points to the contrary. dean regularly pushes sam to make connections with people but because he *checks notes* showed up at sam's apartment when he was scared about their missing father and got mad at sam for ignoring the outside world in order to play house while dean was fighting for his life and kevin needed him, that must mean dean wants sam all to himself i guess? apparently taking sam back to his apartment and telling him to go to amelia and offering to take him to visit sarah blake and encouraging him to go after eileen and and and just doesn't stack up against that one time he was traumatized and angry.
#i can already see all the ways this post is going to play out#the arguments that 'dean stayed in his room while all the AW hunters were living in the bunker'#and 'dean had no right ot be angry about sam not looking for him what was sam supposed to do'#and 'dean didnt /want/ to take sam back to his apartment'#and 'dean only offered to take sam to see sarah because that was just sex and it doesn't count'#and 'dean killed amy'#and a whole bunch of things that sound like pretty sound arguments until you zoom out and take the context into account#deansam#mp
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Dean gets gender euphoria when he's dressed up as a cowboy and when he's dressed up with elliot ness and when he's flipping burgers and when he's working on his car and gets a smudge of oil on his cheek and when he's singing mouthing along to classic rock. What I'm saying here is drag king dean.
#if he's cis or if he's trans it doesn't matter he would still enjoy kinging#he likes being the centre of attention IF he's Performing#he likes to flirt and make inuenndos#he likes being sillay#he does routines to classic rock and he winks all the time and the first time he sees a drag king performance it's a transcendent experienc#(projecting for that last one sjfhahfhdj)#genderqueer dean#<not that doing drag makes one genderqueer that's just my dean is performing gender tag yk
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okay so my family just finished season 5 of supernatural and my mom thinks it is the perfect ending (minus sam lurking outside lisa's house)
this is the first time i've witnessed supernatural through the straight gaze (i don't like it)
#destiel#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#castiel#it is also making me feel a little sick because they view me (or anyone) seeing any queerness in supernatural as stupid#they just kinda talked to me like i am a stupid kid who doesn't know how the world works yet and i'm being ridiculous#i am kinda regretting sharing it with them because they just don't want to learn to see the world from my (the gay gaze) perspective#my cat was shitting while i was writing this lol
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