#Crabbe and Goyle

[velvet4510]

Nobody can convince me Draco was actually planning to turn Harry in to Voldemort when he cornered him in the Room of Requirement. Dude could’ve pressed his Dark Mark in two seconds to summon Voldemort but he didn’t. Crabbe and Goyle were the ones who shot Unforgivable curses at Harry and his friends. I think it’s just because Crabbe and Goyle, two true Voldemort loyalists, were there that Draco didn’t want to give away the fact that he actually wanted to help Harry. Plus in the movie Harry calls out Draco for covering for him at the manor and Draco doesn’t deny it.

[seriousbrat]

vincent crabbe and gregory goyle

There are few HP characters I think are badly written, but while rereading I often feel like we could have done without Crabbe and Goyle. Or at least without one of them. They basically have no speaking lines and just "flex their muscles" a lot (I hate this lol it's so silly to me.)

To be fair, Crabbe does get more interesting in HBP/DH, when he emerges from Draco's shadow and becomes a character in his own right. And in a way Harry himself points this out in the narration-- he's surprised at the softness of Crabbe's voice because... he's basically never heard his voice in 7 years. Like alright I'll accept Crabbe's presence in the books because I do actually like the fact that he starts rebelling against Malfoy. The brief final exchange with Crabbe alone gives him a lot more depth, and it's hinted at in HBP with Crabbe starting to question Malfoy's orders. Like I think this is quite good:

All of this makes Crabbe slightly more interesting to me, but I'm pretty sure Goyle's only given character trait over 7 books is being stupid lmao. Arguably some of this lack of depth is just because Harry doesn't pay attention to them, but also it's remarkable how much more interesting Theodore Nott, who doesn't appear until OotP, seems just because of his ability to see Thestrals (also his father is more interesting than Crabbe Sr and Goyle Sr in the graveyard.) And it's weird because jkr is typically quite good at infusing very minor characters with interest and depth, even if they only have one line in the entire series (Nott's father being a good example.)

Goyle I think literally just doesn't add anything as a character. I'm a little torn about Crabbe because in a way I do think it's interesting for him to basically be a non-entity and then take Harry (and us) by surprise during their first conversation in 7 years, right before his death. So I think Crabbe would be a better character overall without Goyle dragging him down by association lol.

But anyway despite Crabbe's last hurrah, most of the time both characters are just kind of extensions of Draco, it's even stated that they "seemed to exist to do Malfoy's bidding." Pansy and even the much more minor Zabini and Nott all feel so much more dynamic. Like I said, characters who only appear for a single line are given more depth than Crabbe and Goyle who are "on screen" all the time but seem to share a non-personality, because until HBP there's almost no distinction between the two (apart from Goyle being a bit stupider.)

Honestly it seems like until HBP they're mostly there to make Malfoy more of a threat to the trio, since otherwise Ron and Harry could just pummel Draco when he got mouthy and win. I think if Malfoy's gang had just been one of them (Crabbe) and then maybe Nott as more of a sycophant type of role rather than just a thug, this would have worked much better.

I mentioned the Crabbe Sr and Goyle Sr, who are also remarkably uninteresting/blank compared to other minor Death Eaters like Nott Sr or Avery. This makes me never want to include them as Death Eaters in anything I write haha. They just "bow clumsily and mutter dully" so it feels like all we can conclude is that Crabbe Sr and Goyle Sr are just.. exactly the same as their sons but as adults, which is doubly boring because them being copies of their sons is boring but also their sons are boring to begin with. Neither family is part of the Sacred Twenty-eight, and the only mildly interesting inference I can draw here is that they were low-ranking Death Eaters, untalented, basic lackeys who deliberately encouraged their sons to suck up to Lucius Malfoy's son, which is why Vincent and Gregory dutifully followed Draco's orders for so long.

I can imagine that after Lord Voldemort's downfall, Lucius was probably the highest-ranking Death Eater to escape Azkaban, and he might have been seen as a sort of rallying point by those who believed Voldemort was gone. Natural followers like Crabbe and Goyle would have gravitated to Lucius as the new alpha lol, and I think it does add a little bit of interest if the reason why Vincent and Gregory allowed themselves to be bossed around and talked down to by Draco for so long is because they were specifically instructed or encouraged to do so as children. This also explains why Crabbe starts to rebel when Lucius loses favour after OotP.

[citruswriter]

Hogwarts Cast + Fancasting + Other Characters - Pt 2

❤ = Original Actor

💙 = Fancast

💘 = OC

Gregory Goyle 💙 Draco Malfoy ❤ Vincent Crabbe 💙

Blaise Zabini 💙 Pansy Parkinson 💙

Tom Riddle ❤ Mattheo Riddle 💘 Theodore Nott 💘💙

Lorenzo Berkshire 💘 Adrian Pucey 💙 Lucian Bole 💙💘

[thefairyissy]

𓂃۶ৎ yes, i'm a slytherin

[dr3amgrlll]

#magick

chapter two- snow

📍Whispering Wands Camp

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draculam: i’m going to tell snape you’ve got that bottle at camp ..

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draculam: my view all summer🏕️⛵️

user: i wish YOU were my view all summer

ggoyle: oh boy..

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@baocean

[basiatlu]

Draco working so incredibly hard at sewing the dementor costume and making crabbe and goyle practice with him before the match (because flying while sitting on someone’s shoulders would have to be challenging, right??). And everyone in Slytherin being totally exasperated (“it’s cute, really, leave the kid alone).

Feel free to take this wherever you want!

Ohmigosh yes!!! Hahaha or like when he made all of the “Potter Stinks!” badges?? He’s so ridiculous I adore him. Snape and the older classmates would probably watch on with confusion and amusement. The hi-jinx!

[hp-confessions]

People rehabilitating Pansy but not Millicent, or Theo and not Crabbe or Goyle, is fat phobia.

An extra layer for Blaise who gets ignored for racist reasons.

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[mineashthetrash]

(Sorry i have not posted art in a while, illness) Some more HP kitty sketches!!!!!! mostly based on the guy whos ship art keeps appearing on my feed despite me not following any of the tags (im not angry btw im thrilled. keep it up 👍)

[starcrossedkayla]

I'm currently on HBP on my reread through, and I thought it a bit crazy that their results on their 5th year exams were the deciding factor in their careers, especially because Harry was attacked by Voldemort during one of his exams. Luckily for Harry, it was an exam he didn't care about, but I was wondering if the attack had happened during DADA or another class that did matter for being an Auror, if he just would've been out of luck.

Then I came across this from when Harry eavesdrops on Draco arguing with Snape

‘I would’ve had Crabbe and Goyle with me if you hadn’t put them in detention!’ ‘Keep your voice down!’ spat Snape, for Malfoy’s voice had risen excitedly. ‘If your friends Crabbe and Goyle intend to pass their Defence Against the Dark Arts O.W.L. this time around, they will need to work a little harder than they are doing at pres—’

Which was really fascinating to me as it implies a mechanism by which you can retake exams you've failed. Do you think it's an independent study or do they just retake the 5th year class?

[the-colourful-witch]

* Crabbe and Goyle *

These two were such a struggle to draw. Mostly because they have as much personality as a bowl of porridge. They are the perfect cronies just for that reason. They are followers, led by Malfoy, that's their element. Normally, I'm all for everyone having their own way of doing things and being their own person, but with these two I don't believe it. When I had to dress them, I imagined they would just pick something out every morning with this being their only thought: 'It needs to be clothing.' ... That's it! Nothing more than that. And so, this came out of it. I am happy to now move on to different characters :)

[mushroomheadgirl]

Draco's friends' reactions to her coming out. (all part of the same au that now lives in my head)

Pansy: I talked about this briefly before, but Pansy was the first friend Draco came out to. At first, Pansy didn't get it. But to be fair, even Draco struggled with understanding all she was feeling. She didn't even have a word yet for her desire to be a woman. So Pansy thought Draco just liked wearing women's clothes. It took a while to explain to Pansy that no, it wasn't just the clothes, she wanted to be a woman fully. Pansy ended up being very supportive, but she's the one who kind of got it into Draco's head that she had to somehow biologically transform to fully actualize her womanhood. Now, Draco already had plenty of hangups of her own, but Pansy definitely helped by obsessing over ways to turn Draco into a "real girl."

Blaise: Blaise got a weird about it. Out of all of her friends, he's the one with the most connections to the Muggle world. He's the one who helps her find the doctor that gives her hormone therapy, but also, the majority of his knowledge on transgender people comes from fetish magazines and movie houses. He views her transition through a sexual lens. When she starts looking more outwardly feminine, his crude jokes start sounding a lot more like sexual passes. Draco snaps back at him for being a pervert, but mostly puts up with it despite her discomfort. When she and Harry start dating, Harry gets angry the first time he hears Blaise make one of his "jokes" and demands he apologize. This turns into a fight that ends with Draco and Blaise not speaking for months. Eventually, Blaise apologizes and promises to lay off. Draco accepts him back into her life easily, though Harry always remains wary of him.

Theo: This was a hard one for Draco. Theo was her first love. They had a short but intense relationship during seventh year, when they were wrapped up in a war and terrified and clung to each other. They remained friends after, but it was never the same. He was always the quiet type, and just kept nodding while Draco filled in the silence until she ran out of steam. After a while he said, "I suppose we could technically get married now like we used to talk about." Draco starts tearing up and almost suggests running to the courthouse right there. Instead she says, "It would never work. You don't like women." Theo shrugs and says, "You're not really though, right? You'll still have all the parts." Draco almost cries then, for a much different reason. Ever since that conversation, she wonders if Theo sees her as faking it. She never gains the courage to ask.

Greg: He's the most publicly supportive of her. When they're out together after she reenters society, he starts acting like her attack dog again, glaring at anyone who looks at Draco funny and sometimes starting fights like they're back on the schoolyard. He sometimes slips up with Draco's pronouns, but he gets better at it as time goes on. He's always overly apologetic about it when he catches himself and that grates on Draco more than the slip-up in the first place. One day Draco blows up on him to "Correct yourself and move on without the theatrics. You're a big boy, I know you can do it." When she cools down, she feels a bit guilty, but her barbed words have never bothered Greg, and he's moved on before she can get an apology out.

Vince: Draco visits his empty grave every year on the anniversary of the Battle. She doesn't usually talk—there's nothing there but a headstone—but this time she feels the need to. She's already started hormones by the time she visits him, and her mood swings have her all over the place so she's already sobbing before she gets any words out. She eventually does, but she hardly spends any time on her transition. Mostly she tells him how much she misses him and how she wishes he were with her through this. She, Greg, and Vince had been friends since they were babies. It always felt wrong after his death, so much so that she pulled away from Greg for a while too, but now going through such a major life change without him when they shared every other change together feels indescribably wrong.

More trans femme Draco headcanons

[leaelakey]

My favourite hp characters are definitely Ron Weasley, Harry Potter and Albus Dumbledore.

Least favourite is Crabbe, Goyle, Umbridge, Bellatrix and Lucius.

Sirius and Voldemort are both kind of in the middle. These two guys annoy me a lot but I can appreciate them at the same time.

[slytherinwhydontyou]

Better a witty fool, than a foolish wit

•Gregory Goyle II (b. November 2, 1979; Scorpio)

Gregory Goyle Sr. & Ianthe Goyle (née Abbott)

Pureblood

Slytherin 🐍 (1991-1998)

Beater (formerly)

Archivist (for the British Ministry of Magic Records Room)

ESFJ (The Consul) - Dutiful, Loyal, Inflexible, Overly Worried About Social Status

[vicky-sc-art]

I based Millicent off the Trunchbull…

[magnificentandstrange]

[goga-je-pieroga]

“Honestly, if you were any slower, you’d be going backward.” ~ Draco Malfoy

"Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets", 1998, J.K. Rowling