#CLAIRE LILA.
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@chaos--mode // claire said: "it's not polite to point out people's flaws."
<<OK,>> she signs lazily with one hand.
<<I'm not trying to offend you. It's just better to be self aware. You know? Close your eyes. I need to put on the eye shadow. I promise not to sign anything rude while you can't see it.>>
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You know I used to applaud Umbrella Academy for the drama it had. It had deeply broken complex characters with superpowers that reflected their personality. My favorite saying is “I like my superhero stories to be soap operas” but after season 4. Not like this. I don’t want my superhero stories be dramatized like this. This isn’t fun or silly
#the sad part is I can see why they went in these directions#but like why#was this the best you could come up with#I was so excited for this season too#what character wasn’t character assassinated#the umbrella academy#tua s4#luther hargreeves#diego hargreeves#claire hargreeves#five hargreeves#klaus hargreeves#ben hargreeves#viktor hargreeves#lila pitts#the writers hate women
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I don't think that the majority of people being mad on the internet actually hate s4. I think that they're grieving something that they held very close to their hearts and are in the anger stage of the process. It'll be interesting to see in the next few months what the attitude around the season comes to be.
#everyone is talking about fivela#literally no one is talking about the explanations we got for the world#very few people are talking about how they had to sacrifice themselves to stop the end of the timelines for good#no one is talking about the new characters that we met#or the potential for the umbrellas to be alive in a different way in the new universe#since we saw the marigolds blooming in the end credits scene with magic around them#no one is talking about lila and diego being fucking miserable#or ray walking out???#or that klaus actually suffered the most this season from the shortness of the episodes#like he just jumps off the wagon the first chance he gets?#claire is barely a person despite being brought up constantly in s3#jennifer is a non entity too#but all people want to talk about is fivela#i haven't even seen anyone talk about how fucking cool diego and viktor's powers are in this season#tua#the umbrella academy#tua season 4#tua s4#tua spoilers
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One of the aspects of season 1 and 2 that made them my favourite were the portrayal of the dynamics of the characters with each and themselves in their adult life.
Give me Klaus having a breakdown cause he’s starting to forget what Dave looks like and the sound of his voice. Show me him begging Five to just go back and save him, as he’s just one person, it won’t matter. But it will. Klaus knows that. He just doesn’t want to believe that.
Show me how Allison sees her daughter refusal to going to bed as something alike herself. Show me the doubt and fear that might come from her seeing herself in Claire.
Show me Luther trying to socialise with other people without it sounding like a formal report.
Show me Five having a hard time opening up entirely with anyone, especially his family. Show me Victor and him both relating that they feel like outsiders with their siblings, that no matter how good they are now, they will never know how it feels to be completely comfortable and secure with them. That deep down, they will always be alone.
Give me the honesty between Diego and Luther, the outraged desperation of Diego wanting to be the leader, to be seen as an equal to Luther, and Luther telling him that he always knew how that affected him. And deep down Luther enjoyed that his leadership was able to ignite some sort of emotion, even if it was disdain, just something to prove to him that what he was doing was worth a reaction.
Show me victor not being used of people calling on him to make the shots.
Show me Allison and Diego bonding over how it feels to lose their voice, to feel weak and defenceless in a world that is so quick to take away their power and anatomy
Show me Luther and Lila undermining anyone older who gives them guidance or are authoritative in fear of becoming susceptible in becoming mindless obedient soldiers again.
Show me Victors tedious relationship with the violin. How he wants to entirely forget how to play the violin, but hating himself by how easily it is to regain that skill. It feels like Reginald’s hand will always be holding his shoulder every time he holds that god forsaken thing.
Show me how Allison is able to conceal her insecurities and guilt with her award wining smile, on and off set.
Show me a quiet bonding moment between Diego and Victor showing each other’s littered scars on their hands, either by failed knife tricks and tightening strings. Both brought upon by an absent father that each other will never quite understand the others perspective
Show me Lila first thought fleeing anytime her and Diego get into a fight, thinking that it’ll be easier to ran away then to face him.
Give me Diego trying so hard trying to be badass but failing, because intrinsically he isn’t a whiskey shooting cold blooded ‘lone wolf’, he’s just someone who loves his family and wants to be truly close to someone
#just show me that they are human#it feels like the show treats them as superheroes before they are kids#reminds me of someone….#sir reginald hargreeves#…very Meta#headcanon#sorry that this is long#if you like this I can write some more#the umbrella academy#tua#umbrella academy#diego hargreeves#luther hargreeves#klaus hargreeves#allison hargreeves#reginald hargreeves#five hargreeves#victor hargreeves#lila pitts#claire hargreeves#ben hargreeves#tua s2#tua s1#tua 4
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ok some things i LIKED about tua 4 since we all have talked exclusively about what we hated (SPOILERS AHEAD):
idc what anyone says the baby shark bit was iconic every time it came on i jammed
klaus had a comic book storyline from hotel oblivion!! let’s go source material!!
diego and luther being himbos
allison and klaus friendship
the entire birthday party scene was hilarious and fun and so THEM ok
the road trip scene that was in the trailer such iconic sibling goofy clownery they’re fucking idiots
klaus. he was in it. any time i get to see my little freak is time well spent.
incredibly unpopular opinion but i liked the ending i think they need an end from the cycle of apocalypses and suffering like they deserve a rest they’ve earned it and it was sweet that they all went together and the “i love you guys………but you’re all such fucking assholes” and then “fuck you” and everyone laughing and crying and THEN AND THEN ALL THE CHARACTERS FROM THE VARIOUS SEASONS BEING AT THE END i was SOBBING
klaus having a podcast of himself giving himself affirmations like that’s so funny
they actually gave somewhat of a shit about each other like diego was so DAD my babies have grown up but not too much they’re still fucking toddlers
lila is so pretty and funny and hot and unhinged she means so much to me
lila and klaus friendship!! lila and allison!! bonding!!
gene and jean were SUCH classic umbrella academy characters. loved them.
viktor gets all the pussy
i cannot stress how much all of the group scenes were so fucking sibling i love them ok
NO LUTHER AND ALLISON INCEST THANK FUCK
THUNDERBOLT THE GHOST DOG <3<3<3
klaus and claire oh my god i love uncle klaus so much and he loves her so much
seeing sober klaus and how hard he tried and then the heartbreak when that went away because he’s KLAUS he’s gerard way’s trauma self insert. as much as i want klaus to be safe and content and free from all this bullshit it was just so consistent and i can appreciate that. and i cried like a little bitch it was truly devastating but it was just sooooo klaus. also getting to see him make it incredibly clear that he didn’t want his powers back—him being the ONLY ONE who didn’t want his powers back—was important to me idk. and he was LOVED like he has a family!! he is cared for!! ahhHHHHHH!! love it
claire was great and getting to see her and allison and their tumultuous relationship and their love for each other after all of these seasons of allison looking for her and just wanting to be with her daughter
klaus got dave’s dog tags <3
more flashbacks to brellie kids!!
getting answers to some series-long mysteries
the underground subway system between timelines was so fucking cool and mindfucky 100/10
klaus’s look being reminiscent of s1 sorry that was my favourite klaus look ok
their sort of evolved powers when they got them back
so many good one liners and comedic scenes
ben being a crypto bro is SO FUNNY
will add stuff as i think of it. this is incredibly out of character for me i am an eternal pessimist but i did enjoy s4 (mostly because, as an eternal pessimist, my expectations are always low) so here we are.
#the umbrella academy#tua#tua season 4#tua spoilers#the umbrella academy comics#gerard way#klaus hargreeves#diego hargreeves#five hargreeves#viktor hargreeves#gene thibedeau#jean thibedeau#ben hargreeves#claire hargreeves#allison hargreeves#luther hargreeves#the sparrow academy#lila pitts#dave katz#klave#sparrow!ben#yeet my deet#gabriel bà#dark horse comics#reginald hargreeves#abigail hargreeves#the jennifer incident#brellies
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'Inaugral' class of umbrella academy strikes again. Reginald is collecting all their kids to start the next session and that's why Lila was crying in Five's arms. Her daughter was abducted to be made into a killer just like she was. That's why there was the rescue mission. In this essay, I will-
#tua#the umbrella academy#reginald hargreeves#lila pitts#diego hargreeves#allison hargreeves#claire hargreeves#five hagreeves
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The character assasination of Lila being more happy to see the family than five. FIVE survived an apocalypse and a deranged bureau for 46 years so he could fight his way back to save his family FIVE. isn't happy to see them after getting lost against his will for 7 years.
Like he thinks the cleanse is over and done with he thinks he's coming back to peace and his family happy and together and Lila is more excited to see them than him? Five who has traversed space and time for his siblings, who has outrun apocalypse after apocalypse after apocalypse for them. and 7 years is enough to destroy all that make him wish for a time without them? I call bullshit.
#god lets talk about about five I would very much love to meet clair hargreeves would never betray his brother like that.#I hate the five/lila thing because I could see it coming which is why it feels even stupider to interwine her with diego#Destroy 3 seasons worth of character for a half episode love story be so fucking for real steve.#also this isnt me shitting on lila I know that she loves them and I am glad she is happy to see them#KC watches#the umbrella academy#anti five x lila#lila pitts#five hargreeves#the hargreeves#hargreeves siblings#tua season 4#tua#tua s4#tua spoilers
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The TUA fandom after murking Steve Blackman
#umbrella academy season 4#umbrella academy#tua#the umbrella academy#luther hargreeves#diego hargreeves#allison hargreeves#klaus hargreeves#five hargreeves#ben hargreeves#viktor hargreeves#lila pitts#claire hargreeves#reginald hargreeves#I’m not okay and I will never be okay
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thinking about how they never got to spend Christmas together. Thinking about the Christmas presents and the family secret Santa gifts and doing elaborate stuff so that Grace still believes that Santa puts the gift under the tree. Thinking about the burnt Christmas ham and the hot cocoa and the late night diner where they all debrief and get drunk and the leftovers in all their fridges afterward. Thinking about Claire having a stupid long wishlist that’s really expensive but Klaus gets her a cool ring from a vending machine and she wears it every day. Thinking about how five gets her a moleskine notebook and thinking about how Lila gives her an old necklace she wore to prom one year. Thinking about Luther and ray nerding out to MCU movies and Diego joining in. Thinking about Viktor learning Christmas songs on the violin and giving them a concert. Thinking about Allison baking cookies with Grace and Claire sleeping over at Diego and Lila’s house all winter break. Thinking about five helping them all with their homework. Thinking about how Klaus and Viktor would say “we had it a lot worse” when the kids complain about having homework during Christmas. Thinking about Ben wanting to run away from all this but getting dragged into it anyway. Thinking about Luther making Christmas dinner and all of them trying and failing to help. Thinking about all eight of them doing dishes and cleaning up together at 2am on Christmas Eve when all the kids are asleep. Thinking about how tired they would be. Thinking about how warm they would feel inside
#tua#the umbrella academy#tua s4#luther hargreeves#diego hargreeves#allison hargreeves#number five#viktor hargreeves#lila pitts#ben hargreeves#claire hargreeves#grace hargreeves#the twins <3#tua fanfic#tua au
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how are claire and Lila’s children still alive without creating another Kugelblitz?? The parents of the children don’t exist anymore soo… isn’t the childrens existance not going to fuck up the timeline again?
Is this not kind of like another grandfather paradox..?
#tua s4#the umbrella academy#umbrella academy#lila hargreeves#lila pitts#alison hargreeves#claire hargreeves#five hargreeves#luther hargreeves#klaus hargreeves
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TUA: THE GOOD ENDING AU (s4 spoilers)
so yeah making an au giving tua a good ending also rewriting s4 also just to know this will include ocs so yeah lets discuss it
What this au will contain:
The Five and Lila thing never happened
They managed to create one working timeline
Sloane and Luther
Lila and Diego being stressed parents
Allison dealing with teen Claire
Klaus and Ben bonding
Ben and Jennifer
The Siblings are Finally at peace from any apocalypse
Another way to save the world
Ben and Jennifer's powers were removed (okay so I had to I want them to be happy)
five eventually being the founder of the commission
Ray and Allison?? (not sure)
IDK what to do with Reginald and Abigail yet
TUA OCS
That's all I have for now at least I already have the concept for this au in the works.
#tua#tua netflix#the umbrella academy#viktorhargreeves#the umbrella academy au#theumbrellaacademyoc#tua season 4#tua s4 spoilers#allison hargreeves#luther hargreeves#claire hargreeves#lila hargreeves#diego hargreeves#five hargreeves#klaus hargreeves#ben hargreeves#sloane hargreeves#tua au#umbrella academy au#au#rewriting whatever THAT was
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Who the fuck were Lila's family? Her backstory in season 2 was that her parents are brits, but in this timeline she just has like 3 or 4 random american aunties and uncles and it's never explained? We're just expected to accept that she has this gaggle of family who are ready to babysit her plot device children.
And why are her and Allison the only one's who get other family members? it doesn't make sense and it feels like we were so cheated out of seeing the Hargreeves sruggle to fit in with whatever nuclear family dynamic this new timeline dumped them in
#it would have been so much more interesting if Diego and Lila had just had Grace and had to take her round with them this season#such a missed opportunity#and I wanted Klaus living with his single mother who ran away from the Amish after her suprise miracle baby#Viktor struggling with his first generation Russian immigrant parents#Luthor with a real classic WASP family who can't stand each other but always do matching PJ christmas cards#Alison having like an aging ex-beauty queen for a mother who lives with her and takes care of Claire#Diego having like 4 sisters and feeling very annoyed that he has EVEN MORE sibling BS to deal with#Ben having very loving and kind parents who don't understand why their son has suddenly become a raging arsehole#tua#the umbrella academy#tua spoilers#tua s4#tua season 4#the umbrella academy season 4
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I finished Umbrella Academy last night. The further I got into the season the messier the writing seemed to get. I've seen a few things pointed out already: like Lila totally wore bracelets before, why did Luther go chimp again, Five said Lila wasn't his type etc.. Here's a list I was compiling while I watched of things that didn't sit right or made no goddamn sense. It is by no means exhaustive (meaning that it's definitely not every issue, but definitely exhausting to write).
The whole reason Ben was killed was because he touched Jennifer. But Luther and Victor both touch "The Cleanse" during the department store scene. Luther gets stuck, but all it takes is Victor & Lila to get them out. Victor is pushed away by Ben just before he's shot. Were they both also infected and it didn't have time to stick? Or did the writers truly forget this was a plot point partway into the finale?
Quinn came in on the second meeting with Klaus's client Loretta saying "that was fast". They didn't call for him. They didn't give any indication they were done or that he should interrupt. So for all he knows, he should be walking in on them having sex. So is this poor writing in that they put in a statement that makes zero sense? Or poor writing in that they were watching Klaus "work" with surveillance camera and they just never explained that? (Which for the record that's even more screwed up.)
Speaking of which, did we just forget that Klaus has real issues with consent of his body (see season 2) and locked in small spaces with the dead (see season 1)? Or do the writers just not care and played it for laughs?
So we're down 4 episodes, but we're going to introduce 2 love triangles no one asked for (Sy, Jean, and Gene and Diego, Lila, Five)? Cool, that seems like a smart use of time.
After all the trouble Five has gone through, he's suddenly cool with changing the original timeline? Like no notes, no calculations - just down to mess things up by letting Ben live? Who are you Five? (The only calculations we saw from Five this season were a notebook he found another Five wrote - blasphemy.)
So Five is just going to conveniently find a notebook with a way out and we're never going to explain that?
Lila and Five spend 6 1/2 years searching for a way home, but Five's sad Lila picked Diego and he immediately stumbles into a Deli straight off an exit with all the Fives? And somehow that's not something he or Lila ever found?
Do the writers know how being buried alive works? Because first Klaus opened the coffin easily and then managed to accidentally fall in it and get it so stuck he couldn't get it open again. Incredibly implausible. But then wouldn't he run out of air eventually? Seems like he should have in the half a day he was in there. And I can't imagine the lighter would have been good for that situation (I'm not an expert, but any gas release, does it use air, etc.)
So Lila's family is cool with them missing for days? Claire too? I saw little to no attempt to check in, until it was convenient for the plot for Claire to say Klaus upset her when Allison calls. And multiple days seem to pass, but other than Klaus in his coffin and Ben in the hotel, there's no explanation where they slept, or that they really should be in contact with their families. And at least 2 nights pass for Ben (fight at the barn, hotel).
Ben kind of just turns into OG timeline! Ben around Jennifer. There's no explanation for his change in personality, even just that he was lonely without his family. But other than some vague "I can't stop thinking of her" there's no explanation of why they're so connected and Ben had a personality re-write. It gives us "magic made us fall in love" vibes.
I'm fully convinced that the elevator fight with Luther is a call back to CA:WS but TUA did not have either the money or the motivation to choreograph and film the fight scene, so they just waved their hands and said "close enough".
So we're just not going to explain how Five, who ostensibly is physically about 19 per canon, joined the CIA? And on top of that Five, arguably the sharpest, most paranoid character who took down the Commission in a single day in season 1, never checked into his boss or got suspicious about the CIA?
It's a 13 hour drive, but Klaus just magically got back to town on his own after ditching his family and it's never addressed? We've neither seen him drive and he doesn't seem to have a job to pay for a ride home, so I'm at a loss here. Admittedly, I'm not entirely clear how Allison got back to confront Klaus, unless she rode with Diego and Luther before their CIA trip? Though they also seems to have walked back from the CIA so I'm not sure how they got there either?
Okay, so I'll admit that Ben wouldn't necessarily know Reginald shot him. And I'm guessing Reginald wiped their memories quickly. And Ben's bullet would is less obvious in the back of the head. But you're telling me in the 15-ish years of hanging out together as each others' primary companion (12 in original timeline, 3 in the 60s), Klaus never made a dig about Ben's death? Ben never said something and Klaus repeated that weird statement from Reginald? Neither of them said anything weird about it the other one questioned? I swear that's why Klaus was written a whole separate plot with being kidnapped, so he specifically wasn't around for that scene to question or react to it. Also I'm pissed that it's very likely Klaus never knew how Ben died before he also died.
So after multiple episodes of (completely awful) jokes about Diego getting fat, you're going to actually make the character shirtless for no reason and him look exactly as he did before. I just...really?
Claire makes a comment when Allison first returns like "Why are you saving someone whose immortal?" Like what? First, okay let's assume Claire heard this about Klaus at some point (weird, but not impossible). Allison has been back for 5 minutes from the mission where Klaus got his powers back. Klaus didn't tell her. Allison didn't tell her on the phone call we saw or when she walked in. There is exactly zero reason Claire should have this information again.
Claire and Allison interrogate Quinn and all he tells them is pet cemetery. I'm concerned they don't know it's a dog or the dog's name, but I let it slide. Maybe they'll look for freshly dug holes. They're looking and they hear a dog bark to get them closer and they're like "OMG Thunderbolt". Like they're relieved they found the correct dog's grave when they have not actually been told that name before.
I'm not even going to unpack the mess that is Lila and Five here. Going to have to be a separate post.
(I will add that I'm not contesting the ending being on 8/8/24 when it should be 2025/2026 because if they've reset the timeline, the ending can really be whenever they feel like it. So I guess 1 point in the writers favor to the dozen and a half points I listed against them.)
#tua#the umbrella academy#umbrella acedmy#tua season 4#tua season four#tua season 4 spoilers#tua season four spoilers#tua spoilers#tua critical#tua s4#claire hargreeves#allison hargreeves#five hargreeves#lila hargreeves#lila pitts#klaus hargreeves#diego hargreeves#victor hargreeves#ben hargreeves#luther hargreeves
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so Lila's 3 months pregnant at the end of s3. presuming the arrive back post reset on April of 2019,
then she should be due in october, but if her baby comes late (can be up to 2 weeks late) then her baby might be born in november.
so it's possible that the party is for diego and lila's baby if s4 is set in november?
but it looks more like christmas since theres a lot of christmas decorations around (like in the far right of the above) and november is a bit early for full blown christmas decs which are more or less everywhere in this trailer:
so... what’s going on with that..
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Once More (but with feeling!) S4 Rewrite Fan Script Episode 3
Sugar and Spice
EPISODE 3 HAS LANDED!! Hope you all enjoy reading and let me know what you think!!
(TW: use of deadname and incorrect pronouns for Viktor in the first scene due to flashback)
#the umbrella academy#tua#tua s4#tua fix it fic#tua rewrite#tua season 4#tua s4 rewrite#luther hargreeves#diego hargreeves#allison hargreeves#klaus hargreeves#five hargreeves#ben hargreeves#viktor hargreeves#lila pitts#claire hargreeves#ray chestnut#fan script#once more (but with feeling!)
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Teaser Trailer TUA spoilers
This may seem crack but the two people we see be strapped into those machines are the two people who have kids, and we do seemingly see those kids in the trailer.
#lila pitts#diego hargreeves#allison hargreeves#Claire Chestnut#And wee see Lila crying and hugging fives#something bad must have happened for that to happen#tua#tua s4#the umbrella academy#season four#diego x lila#I’ll feel real stupid if that’s not Diego’s kid
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