#But I think it's really good rep even tho they're not confirmed or in a relationship (yet?)
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arrayoflightarchives Ā· 2 months ago
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Okay so having 1. Realised we were on the aro spec while in a romantic relationship and 2. Being a system which has people in various point along the spectrum here are some thoughts:
Ā° I don't think it was a rude question, your not completely sure (by the sounds of it) whether ur gonna have an aro character in a relationship so you wanted to ask actual aro people how best to go about that
Ā° It is important to understand and show in your writing that it's a spectrum both in terms if the amount of romantic attraction and the levels of romance repulsion because you have some ppl who are demi or grey romantic and you have some aros who are romance favourable or repulsed or neutral
Ā° I find personally (as someone who us aro but romance favourable) it's I care about that person a significant amount to want to date them and I want them to be happy and be happy with me, however it still doesn't feel like romantic attraction
Ā° Boundaries are honestly the most important bit like first of all (for me at least) are they aware/understand aromanticism and do they understand that or I care about them, it's not romantically. If they're okay with that(which might take some time) then it's about what level of romance am I comfortable with (which for me is basically all of it, I just don't have the feelings but that doesn't go for a lot of aro ppl)
Ā° I think for people who are demi or grey or flux or somewhere else along the spectrum thdn it's a bit different as the relationship works very similar to allow relationships, there is just often an understanding that their aromanticism has had and/or may continue to have on their relationship and it's development
Ā° I think (for me at least) the gestures are seen as nice gestures for someone I care about forever in aware that they're being interpreted as romantic gestures and they know there is still feeling behind these gestures even tho it's not romantic. Like I wouldn't like confess to someone or something but like I'd happily go on or plan dates in order to make them happy because I get fulfilment from that without the romantic feelings pressure
Can aromantic people please explain what it's like for an aromantic person to romatically date and be in romantic relationships?
Like, how do they differ from those from allos? Do they still do gestures considered romantic? Is it mainly based off of alterous attraction or can it be from romantic attraction? How would an aro dating an allo work?
One of the aro characters I'm writing might be in a romantic realtionship, therefore I want to correctly represent what an aro dating would look like.
(If this questions are considered rude, please let me know)
(not referring to qpr, specifically romantic)
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yeonanak Ā· 3 years ago
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hi, sorry if this question bothers u but i want to genuinely ask bcs itā€™s been bothering me a lot. If u remember i posted about the misinformation on the saiki k fandom and when i saw ur repost and account i noticed that ur ace, so i want to ask u something.
The time when i posted the post i was only got 1-2 post/video on tiktok about ppl misinformating on their video or comments, But! now even tho its rare a saiki content on my fyp but almost evry time there is one the bideo pr the comment will be flooded with misinformation especially around ppl saying saiki aroace canon. i also see it on twitter or tumbkr on those ā€œur (character name) is canonly aro/aceā€. And i Hate when ppl give misinformation to other ppl so i want to ask u, is it wrong to comment/reply ā€œheā€™s not canonly ace/aroā€ or something like that to ppl comment saying saiki is canon ace/aro??
Bcs i dont want to hurt the aro/ace community with my words if i say that, or being seen as ā€˜ruining the funā€™ bcs ik sometimes the ppl who says saiki is canon ace/aro is usually also ace/aro, and i dont want to hurt them. Sorry again for asking u this
Your question is no problem for me! Sorry if you had to wait for my response.
ā€œI dont want to hurt the aro/ace community with my words if i say that, or being seen as ā€˜ruining the funā€™ bcs ik sometimes the ppl who says saiki is canon ace/aro is usually also ace/aro, and i dont want to hurt them.ā€
I might not be able to speak for everyone in the aroace community, but I'll answer this how I would like to be responded to as an aroace person.
In my opinion if someone is just wanting some representation and it makes them feel good, the better move might be to take a step back and let them have it, because chances are they're not taking it that seriously. For example, I liked this one blog that was like "_insert character_ has ADHD is canon!" (but it wasn't canon) I didn't actually believe it was true, I just really liked the rep because I don't get it often.
It hasnā€™t been confirmed that Saiki is aroace, but it also hasnā€™t been confirmed that he isnā€™t aroace. Commenting ā€œheā€™s not canonly ace/aro,ā€ while true is very blunt and might seem like youā€™re shutting them down, even if thatā€™s not what you mean to do. If you donā€™t want to be misunderstood, it could be better for you to ignore it or at least make sure your comment can't be taken the wrong way.
"Saiki can be aroace but I don't think it's been confirmed" or maybe even nicer because communication through text can be read negatively lol. If you're reacting to a creator's content I would suggest telling them what you liked about their work, offering constructive criticism, or not commenting at all. But again thats my opinion.
If you want to comment, I would just say to make sure the message you put out is respectful, and remember that sometimes commenting isnā€™t necessary anyway. Even if it would be false and can get annoying for someone to claim Saiki is canonically aroace, sometimes itā€™s not worth your energy or time to correct people because that would be a lot of people. People are going to have their own interpretations of the show regardless of whatever is canonically confirmed. Some people are open to debate, but youā€™re bound to find someone you disagree with so try not to let it get to you. Remember itā€™s a show that you enjoy so donā€™t let something minor ruin the fandom for you. What I like about the Saiki k fandom on tumblr and on AO3 is that there's a reallly wide variety of people with their hcs, and only the occasional bitter post about how Saiki should only be aroace.
I hope I helped somehow!
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punkscowardschampions Ā· 6 years ago
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Ali & Carly
Ali: Worth leaving your park for? Carly: fun Carly: he likes you more but its k cuz so do i Ali: nah Ali: he was so šŸ˜ for the whole sitch I thought he might genuinely explode on sight Ali: it was fun tho, you were so good Carly: that would've been disappointing Carly: he was better than i thought hed be Carly: lads that cocky dont usually come through Carly: youre always good Ali: yeah, i'll give him that Ali: obviously overhyped himself but all lads do Ali: worth it to see my baby work it Ali: and i hope not šŸ˜‰ Ali: though u can tell my Ma that, get me off the hook, like Carly: not just lads me too Carly: never seen you play someone like that before tho Carly: we gonna try this on caleb next or Carly: she scares me more than your ex but still would Carly: for you my baby Ali: how can you, you're perfect Ali: i know, crossing lads but not each other back then, babe Ali: not mad, not exactly my finest hour but wouldn't hate having met you sooner Ali: idk if it'd work on him Ali: he's not as dumb as Drew, bless him šŸ˜˜ Ali: felt weird being at his house, woulda died if any of them had come back, like šŸ˜‚ Ali: never mind my Ma, have you ever seen his? Carly: you're too sweet Carly: i kno cuz you wanna treat him nice like you do me Carly: not how you did drew hot as that was tho Carly: nah thats the first time ive been there & mas w sons give me space like Carly: sorry we should have brought him back to here my bad Ali: blah shut up šŸ˜ Ali: obvs I wanna ride him too but idk Ali: gives off #loyal vibes to me so probs not a goer Ali: Well you know, had to show you what a real girl on girl on boy threesome was all about, boo Ali: nah, it added to the experience Ali: whatever it was, it wasn't boring Carly: i kno that he gives off šŸ˜ for you Carly: & you like him Carly: catch you in his room collecting hair or w ever to put a spell on the boy Carly: when you could just do it the easy way Carly: aw never boring when im w you girl Carly: youve shown me a lot Ali: There's definitely attraction but I don't really know him Ali: Only see some people at parties, he's one of 'em Ali: like you said, we didn't properly SEE each other 'til now, did we? same kinda vibe Ali: my rep proceeds me šŸ’€ Ali: where's the fun in easy? Ali: besides, I'm with you, and you're so fucking cute Ali: who else I need Carly: k but if you want him to see you you've gotta get out there Carly: if you can turn me you can make him forget your rep Carly: got the magic baby you kno Carly: you're cuter Carly: making me blush Ali: you're right Ali: work on being MORE extra Ali: the world ain't ready šŸ˜‰ Carly: me either Carly: you're also so hot Carly: unfair Carly: if you get more Ali: baby Ali: making me miss you already Ali: that's what's unfair Carly: can i be at yours later tho Carly: my parents are fighting about me & think idk Carly: bitch its a caravan Ali: That's fun Ali: about parenting styles or? Ali: Of course you can Ali: I share a room with Ro though remember, so, best behaviour Carly: ha Carly: theyve got no flair Carly: about to throw this washing up bowl at my ma as my contribution to the convo Carly: shit i forgot Carly: maybe i shouldnt come over then Ali: trying to think of a witty one-liner for when you do Ali: all i've got is 'this convo is as dull as dishwater' lemme workshop it, hold fire boo Ali: nah, please come Ali: lmao, flashbacks to Drew there but forreal Ali: we can sleep on the sofa if needs Carly: lads are so funny Carly: i thought he was gonna cry w he thought we'd changed our minds Carly: good stash tho Carly: only reason my ma still running her mouth about me Carly: well zen Ali: another night crywanking Ali: gutting Ali: yeah, and you see all that fancy shit in his room, clearly on his big badman hype Carly: cant ever bring him here Carly: never hear the end Ali: gonna have trouble keeping him away now, babe Ali: šŸ’¦ Carly: only if youre here Carly: you speak the local lingo yea? Ali: Gabh mo leithscĆ©al? Ali: šŸ˜ Carly: wtf Carly: you could've just said yea babe Ali: could've but i'm a showoff Carly: cant act like i dont love it now Ali: can but it'd be a blatant lie Ali: right tongue workout, Gaelic, like Carly: thatll be why you bothered & i never Carly: very gay of you Ali: odds already stacked against me being 50% scum Ali: had to do what i could, babe Carly: help me out then Carly: my da's trying to start a fight w ronan's da who dont even speak english Carly: funny or fucked that he thinks thats where i go Carly: guaranteed his da is calling me a slag while my dad does the same Carly: ha Ali: šŸ˜’ Ali: fight for your honour or gtfo Ali: So stupid Ali: want me to rock up translator cum where you've been wasting your time? Carly: i told em all ive been too busy having 3ways w you & the golden god but they aren't having it Carly: gonna have to give you all a show, am i lads that aint what you want da but its what ill do k Carly: walking away before they start kissing themselves Carly: the tension Ali: Oh, middle-aged straight men Ali: never far away from a crisis or homoerotic awakening Ali: Join the club Carly: grab another beer lads itll be alright Carly: im not knocked up or running off with your lad Carly: do wanna get out of here tho Ali: Oh he is not potential baby daddy material at all Ali: Please Ali: come over or you wanna go somewhere else Ali: think my Da is firing up the BBQ, another staple of manliness Ali: sure we can keep him from brawling and strictly on the burgers tho Carly: who is Carly: get me on the ferry before you get me down the aisle Carly: k im walking Carly: keep me company babe Ali: valid Ali: benefits of being a gay is no awkward hush hush trips to England Ali: of course Carly: if only my parents believed i like you Carly: get back to slagging me off for other shit Carly: irish at me again. i liked it Ali: Bit offended, like, have you seen me guys? I'm a sensation Carly: i dont think they know who you are sorry Ali: TĆ” tuillte agat ar fud an domhain, Carly Walsh Ali: at least I can dramatically ask 'em then and really fucking mean my shock horror Carly: if you don't live on site you don't exist Carly: do i need to be offended at what you're saying about me in that gay tongue twister Ali: everyone got their own bubble Ali: i found out the world extends beyond the end of my street tho but you do you lads, it is easier that way Ali: tho not safer, ask ginge šŸ˜ˆ Ali: i hope not Ali: was nice, promise Carly: i wanna see more of it than this Carly: like you said wheres the fun in easy Carly: shit yea shes your ronan like Carly: she gonna show herself at the bbq Carly: i believe you, you don't kno how to be anything else to me even if you should Ali: You will Ali: Make sure of it Ali: I've shown you the stars, gonna show you the wonders on this world too, scout's honour Ali: omg, so is Ali: although she doesn't occasionally come by when she's horny Ali: so we're safe Ali: she'd never trust me serving her a bevvy, like šŸ§™ā€ā™€ļø #witchesbrew Ali: why should I? don't be telling me what to do woman šŸ˜œ Carly: maybe she should Carly: she might be less sad and mad once she's had a ride w you Carly: you gonna play like you don't like it now Carly: just in the bedroom k hear you Ali: I'll put it out there Ali: get ready to cover my bruises this time Ali: šŸ˜ Ali: time and a place, baby Carly: if you're showing her what real magic is she can't be mad Carly: but if she is she can go through me i got you girl Carly: wont beat me a second time like Ali: my lil million dollar baby Ali: into it Carly: your sister would be too Carly: not in the same way but would get her on side Ali: she's so on side Ali: now she knows you ain't tryna be my bosom bud like that Carly: she still dont vibe w me tho Carly: i kno it wasnt just that Ali: she's just shy, don't worry Ali: no one out here you need to impress but me and i already am Carly: what about your ma and da Carly: i kno they arent shy Carly: how do you want me to play that Ali: just be you you don't gotta do anything more or less baby Carly: im scared Ali: you don't have to be, I swear, Ma's not as bad as she šŸ‘€ and my Da's a big softie Ali: you can just come as my friend, they aren't gonna pry Carly: k Carly: i trust you Carly: itll be fun yea Ali: s2g Ali: you can meet Tommo, you'll like him Ali: and your fave will be dying for your attention, obvs Carly: mystery boy Carly: is he hot like your other brothers Ali: i'm not gonna confirm or deny 'cos bit weird Ali: also potentially rude if I nah it 'cos I reckon he ain't your type Ali: I cannot promise hot brothers making an appearance but you might get šŸ€ Carly: hot sister then Carly: I dont mean my fangirl but the older one Ali: package deal with the freckly one Ali: not rock, weirddd Ali: but see, so ready with the compliments they're gonna šŸ’š u Carly: he's hot too Carly: & you kno i think the littlest is such a cutie Carly: but i dont wanna compliment anyone but you Ali: I'm not gonna complain about that Carly: better not cuz im almost at yours Carly: its too hot to turn around & walk back Ali: yay! Ali: lemme come get you Ali: i wanna kiss you before we have to be social Carly: i want you to kiss me whenever you feel like it Ali: might just take you up on that Carly: do cuz it means i can too Ali: deal šŸ’š
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somewhere-inthemeadow Ā· 8 years ago
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Hi, I just wanted to ask about Jughead. I thought he was only confirmed as asexual and the aromantic thing was to be kind of decided/expanded upon? If this isn't the case I apologize! I kind of feel as though Betty and Jughead came out of nowhere and Betty was literally head over heels for Archie one second and then this. So I think the show would make a lot of sense if they realized they misunderstood their relationship because I mean they're 15 who has hormones figured out? Have a great day!
hi anon. I hope you have a great day too. Iā€™m gonna do a brief summary of the issue cause thereā€™s a billion people who could explain it better than me, I can guarantee.
jughead has always been written as tho he is aroace, even in the original archie canon. in his own spinoff, jughead has come out as asexual (using that exact word) and the writer of the spinoff has confirmed that he has been writing jughead with aromantic leanings. So essentially the voice of god has deemed that jughead is aroace (Its also implied throughout the canon that jughead is touch-averse, but thatā€™s another issue).
Its too early in the morning for me to find receipts for these, but if you want me to I definitely can, or like just google them, they are not that hard to find.
I have a lot of issues with riverdale in general, but I feel like bughead attacks me personally due to the I N T E N T I O N A L erasure of jugheadā€™s aromanticism and asexuality that the writers have no plans on correcting themselves on in the future. This shows that they do not think aces are WORTHY enough to be written about, that we do not DESERVE to see ourselves on tv and that because we are aroace, we inherently cannot be part of decent arcs because of our aroaceness. And thus we end up with a jughead that feels like he has had something cut out of him as the writers rewrite his whole being and force him into situations he is super uncomfortable in.Ā 
To Sprouseā€™s credit (or this may just be me holding out hope for a character that I can connect with) jughead is still played, and kinda written, as though he is a confused aroace/aroace in denial. However, bughead seeks to erase any mention of the AROace part of his identity and thatā€™s why a lot of the community is mad.
And let us not forget how DISRESPECTFUL the riverdale fandom is. They talk about jughead without know the damage his re-writing is doing to the ace and aro communities and how bughead personally invalidates us. And their bullshitĀ ā€˜alternative universeā€™ is bullshit because as I have said before it goes to show how aphobic this fandom and show can be just so they can force a ship that was never meant to be onto a character that literally does not need one. There is romance between other characters in the show, you do not need to attack the A R O M A N T I C A S E X U A L and force him to fit your allo romance mould.Ā 
it also proves that IF JUGHEAD HAD BEEN ANY OTHER KIND OF QUEER WE WOULDNā€™T BE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS. people would accept jugheadā€™s queerness and move on. how dare bughead shippers (or jarchie shippers for that matter) think they can talk over me, an aroace, about how I should be responding to a ship that personally invalidates ME! the sheer audacity you need to have to keep your hate ship going, knowing that seeing it being presented onstage is painful. What does it take you to understand that this ship tears something very important away from a character that represents a very underrepresented community and that by doing so tells us that we are not worthy of stories? that we are a lower class? and let us not forget the shippers that admit he is ace, but refuse to admit he is aro just so they can keep their ship afloat.
I am yet to write down my full thoughts on bughead, but trust me when I say a lot of the issues I have with it comes from the sheerness thickheadness of the bughead shippers and how they love to keep that aphobia coming.
Of course, riverdale in general is a shit show. Thereā€™s a reason that its only pulling a two star rating on netflix. the writing is shit and makes no sense (anyone who has ever paid any attention to my liveblog will know how I feel about this). In ep 1 betty was meant to be head over heels, irrevocably in love with archie, in ep 3 she wouldnā€™t have blinked if you said his name. there was also something going on with veronica and archie, but that was literally never mentioned again. and after the betty/veronica kiss in ep 1, did they ever even discuss that again?? cause I can tell you if someone kissed me and I wasnā€™t aware they were going to, and do it so publicly and unexpectedly, I would be flipping my shit.
Its things like that that show that riverdale was written by people who donā€™t really know what they are doing. And its things like the queer-baiting beronica kiss that show that river was written by non-queer writers. the way the show has handled its queer rep has been bullshit. I mean kevin says in either ep 3 or 4 that he wishes moose would just stay in the closet?? What kind of self respecting queer person would push away and further closet someone who is obviously struggling with themselves?? and do we get to know more about the snake guy from the drive in episode?? I reckon we wonā€™t. The show is not progressive for having a gay character, and they way the have handled him is bullshit to say the least.Ā 
And this doesnā€™t even begin to describe the showā€™s inability to deal with its own storylines. the writing is painful and I hate it but I keep holding out because jughead means a lot to me as an ace person. even without the consideration of queer rep, the plotlines in the show do not develop naturally or overlap with each other well enough to make this show any kind of Good. I mean, what was going on with the wolf masks in the fear ep?? I have written about this elsewhere but that makes no sense in writing or onstage?? This show has bitten off more than it can chew and I think it knows it.
Of course, it is reasonable that betty and jughead will break up in a few episodes, but to rectify the damage that bughead has caused, this breakup needs to be followed with jughead coming to terms with and being comfortable in his AROMANTIC ASEXUAL self. And the fandom but accept this and move on, or else continue to ship bughead in non-romantic ways.Ā 
I am all down for this kind of arc, but something tells me that the writers do not have the guts to do something so bold.
I could rant on 5eva about bughead and riverdale in general but Iā€™m gonna stop because it is early and I want today to be a good day
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