#BibleThumper

[underwaterspiderbird]

order 66 was NOT a genocide. you can only genocide people & cultures, you can’t genocide a systemically deified super-religion that wants everyone in existence to either agree with them & exist their way or burn in hell for eternity. any decent ppl who went down with the purge forfeit their lives down the drain along with their family, home & very sense of self. they. had. it. fucking. coming.

from an indigenous person, fuck y’all for even comparing order 66 to genocide & talking all over survivors of real genocides to save face for your evangelical faith & the people you think are good guys. you are not about to disrespect the continent-sized OCEANS of blood that make up our ancestors & loved ones who were lost to real genocide. fuck off.

[witchblade]

I CARNT SEE

[chowtrolls]

o(-< <- born to write literary analyses of song lyrics in relation to my little ocs, forced to go to the fucking grocery store.

[mintedwitcher]

I really really fucking hate Christmas tbh.

[underwaterspiderbird]

even lucas can get things wrong. he's good with broad concepts that can evolve and be refined on, but he sucks ass at writing & when he gets something wrong, he gets it royally wrong. trying to force the jedi's worldview on everyone was one of those mistakes & even he acknowledges it. he even loves the acolyte and says its everything he could have hoped for and more. your own guy, who's own farts & old takes you suck up like air, sang praise of the Acolyte for how it shows everything we've ever known about star wars but from a point of view that isn't shoving jedi propaganda down the viewer's throat. sith may have their flaws as a group too but at least they value autonomy & self-empowerment. jedi are like fundamentalist christians who preach about how bad hate is while simultaneously despising anything that exists differently than them & justify committing atrocities to them with "well they were dark and bad so they deserved to die". at least they're not thought police who were systemically dominant for the better have of forever & subsequently got a free pass to either slaughter or brainwash anyone who doesn't agree with them.

a person considered "dark" and "evil" who values common decency & autonomy and channels their "darkness" into positive change that benefits them and their loved ones will always be a better person than someone considered "holy" and "righteous" who uses their platitudes of goodwill to justify the genocide of anyone they deem wrong & unnatural, kidnaps & brainwashes the children of the cultures they trample, & then throw those away those same children the moment they disagree with the jedi. ur colonizer is showing

"The idea of it..."

This is obviously a reference to the ol' argument:

"The Jedi weren't bad but the Jedi Order as an institution needed to go."

So as a quick reminder I thought I'd point out:

1) George Lucas describes the Jedi's eradication as a sad thing, not something sad-but-necessary:

"[The] Jedi getting killed through the Order 66 of the clones is just done as one of those kind of inevitable pay offs in terms of getting rid of everybody, the Emperor is getting rid of all his enemies, but there’s a certain inevitability of it all and a sadness to it.  - Revenge of the Sith, Director’s Commentary, 2005

2) Out of 770 George Lucas quotes, I've never seen him refer to the Jedi Order as "an institution" once.

He does refer to the Republic itself as an institution.

"[In The Phantom Menace one of the many storylines is] the story of a young queen who's faced with the total annihilation of a people, and how she can get a sluggish political institution to pay attention to what's going on." - Premiere, 1999

He might be referring to the Senate instead of the Republic as a whole, but the point stands: he's not talking about the Jedi.

Which tracks with what Lucas defined as Dooku's reason for leaving the Order: his disenchantment with the Republic/Senate, not the Jedi themselves.

But let's go slightly further:

The Jedi Temple was designed as a place of worship that would contrast with the corporate coldness of the Senate.

Also, the Jedi were originally designed as a more organized police force. As the script evolved, they were turned into peacekeepers, diplomats.

Mace's room was redesigned so as to not convey that the Jedi were mired in bureaucracy and protocol.

And when describing the political situation of the Prequels, Lucas doesn't blame the Jedi, but rather the corporations and Senate:

"But as often happens when wealth and power grow beyond all reasonable proportion, an evil fueled by greed arose. The massive organs of commerce mushroomed in power, the Senate became corrupt, and an ambitious named Palpatine was voted Supreme Chancellor." - Shatterpoint, Prologue, 2004

Wow, it's looking like not only is the "Jedi Order as an institution needed to go" narrative not a thing per Lucas, but

3) Lucas went out of his way to make it clear that the Jedi aren't the issue, here, the Republic/Senate is.

So how did we get this narrative?

Well, it comes from a generation of fans and Star Wars creators who were not the target audience.

You know the type. It's the kind who, when asked if they like the Prequel Trilogy, will respond that they liked...

... but not the execution.

AKA they disliked the Prequels, but then EU books and The Clone Wars came out and provided them with enough material to form a headcanon justifying why they didn't like the Jedi, despite wanting to: it's because the Jedi are meant to be disliked! Totally!

The Jedi failed as an institution is an idea that comes from authors who wanted to engage with the material (it IS Star Wars, after all) but not the narrative that George Lucas had crafted, whose work then influenced older fans who preferred the author's retconned version of the story to the original one.

The rest is history.

As Prequels producer Rick McCallum put it:

"The myth begins on paper. During preproduction, filming, and postproduction, the myth becomes visible through the work of hundreds of dedicated people. Following the film's release, the myth becomes public and the public makes it its own." - Rick McCallum, Mythmaking: Behind the Scenes of Attack of the Clones, 2002

[mightywario]

this thing feels like an emote they would use in an icarly parody of twitch

which is basically the entire purpose of it, come to think of it

[libraford]

I told y'all about Jay the BibleThumper, and I swear that for the most part he's an alright dude when he's not trying to convert me to a religion that I've already decided wasn't for me.

He was telling me about a dude that he used to work with that makes me realize that he could be... so much worse.

They were carpooling from one town to the next and the other dude was on a dating app and he says:

"Now that's a mix I can get my hands on."

Shocked at the statement, Jay says- "What?"

Which he says... again... with no change in inflection.

"What are you implying?"

"I'm against interracial marriage- the bible is against it."

"It absolutely is not."

"You're not supposed to mix with people who are unequally yoked!"

"Buddy, that's about marrying non-believers!"

"Black people aren't Christians."

It is at this point in the retelling of the story that I dropped my tuna salad. Imagine going up to a black church lady and telling her she's not a Christian.

A second example of this dude:

They were eating lunch with the boss, who is from a South American country (didn't say which one) and they were playing the hispanic station on the radio. Dude says:

"I bet you clean your house to this music."

Stares from everyone at the table. Like what the fuck?

Boss talked to him about it and he quit that day because "you guys are too soft here."

Like... wow.

[bloodpen-to-paper]

Qsmp Finale Moments That Take Me Back to the Start (And Other Things I Enjoyed)

-Pre-stream chatting between streamers and their chats. Friendly teasing, funny donos, and talk about what's gonna happen next

-Quackity and Pol chatting while Bagi tries to kill Mike in the background. Q and Vegetta talking about using the plane to go to Andorra while Foolish yells about having a bomb to Cellbit and Tina. The chaos of people doing something crazy while others have calm conversations on the side

-The feeling before an event stream, when you're waiting for the timer to count down as you listen to the cinematic music. You and the others in chat, holding hands

-The admins doing lore cinematics, the kind that you might've needed to get used to since its all in Minecraft but that in this community gets your blood pumping and your eyes bright

-Streamers doing lore cinematics to make some goofy ass plotline where they turn into a rat or an egg

-The voice of Cucurucho

-Vegetta and Foolish being obnoxiously flirtatious, especially in public

-Bagi and Tina running towards each other with no hesitation

-Baghera and Cellbit wearing gas masks. Bolas. Always.

-Quackity not being able to teleport on his own server cause he's eternally broke (and only realizing he has no money when he's at the teleporter. and having to ask the admins for tps)

-Tazercraft coming in with the gimmicks, Zombie Mike and Pacovo

-Various multilingual conversations happening at the same time

-Seeing all the BibleThump crying emojis in chat when something sad happens, and the kkkkkkk's and jajajaja's when its something funny

-The streamers taking asides to set up the real time translation, for all the languages

-the hug emote being used. group hugs

-Tina making high pitched noises to signal distress

-Funny screenshots from the translators above the cubitos heads and the in-game chat messages

-Reunions with the more inactive members when they finally log on again

-Everyone getting abruptly tp'd to spawn and immediately screaming

-Quackity being reminded about his lack of houses

-The buildings. The Wall. Fit's gym. Foolish's Titan. Baghera, Vegetta, Cellbit's houses. The train station. Spawn.

-People killing each other out of boredom waiting for the event to start

-Foolish revealing that Cellbit killed the Fed workers

-Pierre greeting people with "hola!"

-The special way Bad greets Pierre and Baghera, the french speakers

-Group visits to the museum

-People (Quackity) moaning over Vegetta in a suit

-Pierre whining for Maximus

-The part in the museum with the server's historical items. The memories every one of these items brings back. The reminder of how much this project meant to the admins who put it all together, and how much it meant to us

-Foolish and Pol laughing as soon as they see each other, and Fit being there to witness it all over again

-"Quackity pay the server"

-Quackity being obsessed with Fit's baldness

-Pierre being a furry

-Maximus being a furry

-At least one person having the rainbow jelly effect

-Lucky Ducks mention

-Vegetta freaking out over copyright music

-Cellbit revealing he stole the Gem of Fobo

-Cellbit throwing a tantrum cause he never got to kill Empanada, followed by Bagi critting him

-The sound of a chainsaw revving. Baghera laughing not long after

-People trying to break out of designated event areas to explore

-Everyone getting tp'd to an event location on the same block and immediately taking damage from entity cramming (and then screaming)

-My computer lagging the fuck out during streams. This isn't something I miss in fact its something that infuriates me to the point of violence but the prompt was "things that take me back to the start" so here it is

-Q, Pierre and Vegetta walking in on Pol shitting and refusing to leave

-Quackity hitting on random men

-The introduction of a new launcher. The feeling that shit's about to get real

-CCs immediately crashing after the introduction of a new launcher

-cine. cinema. the PopCorn emote

-That eerie, electrifying feeling when the CCs have been transported to an entirely new place, far from home...

-Foolish getting downed 2 seconds into the new location

-Bad running away from the group shouting "every man for himself!"

-The puzzles. Enigmas. The CCs having to work together however chaotically in order to solve them

-Quackity panicking and going "we're fucked" over and over as soon as they're given an objective

-Foolish, Cellbit and Quackity screaming at each other over the radios (sometimes in fear, sometimes just because they can)

-At least one person suggesting cannibalism upon realizing they've been left to the wolves

-Cellbit locking in and working through the enigmas

-Bad and YD chatting, being in their own little bubble

-People getting the radios and immediately messing around with them and using them to insult each other

-Pierre asking "how does this thing work?" and Quackity excitedly explaining the transceiver before a beat of awkward silence and Pierre going "I MEANT THE MAP"

-Foolish's 10/10 voice acting making the horror event feel genuinely tense

-Fit using the transceiver to say "buttcheeks" and Cellbit going "what the fuck is wrong with you" in that way he does

-"Language"

-Cellbit bringing up who he'd eat first if they run out of food

-The admins getting one last opportunity to jumpscare the players with scary soundbites

-Fit saying "calma" when Pac starts freaking out

-Those special conversations that happen when the CCs are having to travel long distances

-Bagi traveling with a blue bird and calling it Jaiden

-Quackity seeing a crow and calling it Philza

-Seeing skeletons and scattered codes on the floor

-Dungeons. Code fights.

-Quackity explaining the Federation lore to YD. YD being the last newbie to get The Talk from an existing member who's dealt with the Federation first hand. Carrying on the tradition.

-The realization that the Federation were the ones that brought the August batch to the island. That the Feds were the ones who encased them in ice all those months ago. We might've known, but now they know

-Pac and Mike figuring out how to exploit game mechanics

-Maxo talking about atomic bombs

-Maxo immediately interrogating YD on her Federation allegiances

-The sight of an egg running around. The ghost of what once was

-Players getting downed either to stupidity or op mobs and having to wait around for revives

-Tina speaking spanish with Maxo, and them speaking korean with YD. Fit speaking portuguese around Pac, Foolish speaking spanish with Vegetta, and Vegetta speaking english with Foolish

-Quackity hitting on Badboyhalo

-Pierre and Maxo being the way that they are (the way they haven't been able to be in so long)

-Tina finally telling people she's a demon. Tina telling Bagi, who already knew. Who stills loves her.

-CCs crashing and having to wait for the server to start back up

-Autotune Quackity

-The Bad x Cucurucho allegations

-Baghera distributing random items she definitely should not have

-Cellbit antagonizing Tina on principle and her clapping back that she's marrying his sister

-Maxo getting bombs and having them stolen by the admins

-Quackity telling Baghera and Cellbit to throw up in his mouth and Baghera being 100% down no questions asked and doing it (while Cellbit runs away from these freaks)

-LGBTQsmp jokes

-Pierre's incredibly horny type of humor

-Cellbit telling Tina he'll be at the wedding

-Bad stealing all the couches

-The players being utterly unable to find the elevator they need and deciding to just destroy the entire house

-The admins having to replay a cinematic because it didn't play the whole way through the first time

-Bad admitting to stealing all the couches. All of them.

-Old Ordo and Resistance members getting together for theory meetings. Pac telling everyone about the Codes in the basements. Everyone communicating their way through building the escape plane like a well-oiled machine. The familiarity of it.

-It happening amidst Maxo singing the Halo theme with reverb right next to their ear

-The sky turning red

-The Codes being enemies

-Bad getting absolutely swarmed by mobs as Foolish comically screams in the background

-SOFIA. Her and Maxo. Maxo's final moment in the spotlight.

-Running through the old Federation hallways. The last rush to find the exit. To freedom.

-The final cinematics. Getting kicked from the server.

-"Thank you for participating :)"

-Elena's montage of all the old bases and moments. Her saying the hell she went through was worth it for the beauty of what she saw and experienced with the players. The Qsmp's message to us.

-Vodwatching lore you missed cause you slept through it

-Scrolling through the Qsmp tag to find all the details of streamer POVs you missed

-Liking fanart, seeing people's reactions, memes, clips. Laughing together, crying together, theorizing and taking in every last little detail. Seeing people make the most cursed comments under Cucurucho thirst art. Seeing people cry over images of the eggs. In all languages. On the Qsmp.

-Being part of a community. Being Here. Juntos.

[pleasantspark]

Viziepop has characters that are depicted by biblethumpers as sinners in Hell, while there's none in Heaven, the whole "I don't want this close to being the Bible" shit is annoying lmfaaaooo.

Yeah, it's obvious you DON'T know what you're fucking doing with the characters you have been working on since High School and or adulthood, at this rate.

There's no "Bad People" in Hell, I am not even asking you to add Hitler because fuck no, I am just saying the ONLY bad people in here are people who indulge in vices or who have killed people, there's no generally bad bigots here (Though I suspect Val was a rapist when he was still alive.)

The only fucker I can remember who made a character for Hazbin Hotel was a notoriously known person who got into drama (I am not naming them due to not wanting LOLSUITS.) they made a Hazbin Hotel OC who was a Nazi.

And people didn't like that.

The one excuse of it being Hell would work, but yeah.

I am not asking for this shit to be in the show, I just find the "Not wanting to be near the bible" excuse to be really fucking rere. Like jfc, South Park didn't have this much fear and VIV WAS INSPIRED BY THAT SHOW!

[blockgamepirate]

Fit: It's like every week it's something different, eggs being kidnapped, people losing their memories...

Baghera: Yeah...

Chatter: I went to check Fit's stream, he's sitting with the classic emote, in the light, while Baghs is sitting with her knees against her chest, in the shadow BibleThump

^ just wanted to shout out this chatter who pointed out the visual here

Somebody who is not me should draw fanart of this moment

(This is Baghera telling Fit about growing up on the island and being scared to tell the others about it and being worried that even if they escape the Feds will just bring them back and also that she might have been the reason the plane crashed and therefore the reason why the French are now also stuck on the island.)

(The stream is Sept 21st, titled QSMP - SI TOUT FONCTIONNE, around 2h30min)

[l3m-ntwo]

Just realized. No matter how frustrated Badboyhallow gets at the baby grubs, he can never-not free them because if he doesn't, he would be keeping the baby's away from their father.

Which is the exact same thing that has happened to him from every single guardian figure in his life. PLEASE. Biblethump.

[google-searchhistory-official]

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[q-nihachu]

watching wilbur's offline chat switch from DinoDance to BibleThump over the past few hours has been a better tragedy than i've ever written

[wheatlev]

wikipedia claims that 'biblethumping' is a gaming term and has something to do with Binding of Isaac. pretty sure that is not it

right

[artcommunityvent]

when you find a biblethumper screaming about certain art on an art site. It is soo tempting too tell them "sir/mam this is an art site NOT a church"

Don't like nudity, sexual content within site rules,swearing and being "progressive"? Then get the hell of DeviantArt.

☁

[quackitytheduck]

bro im biblethumping so hard rn :'))) that last animatic was so fucking good awwwuuuuggghh