#Bayverse Sentinel? Never heard of him

[orion-archives]

I can't wait to see the shitstorm and hell that is going to be Sentinel Prime's tag the second the film officially releases.

You aren't ready. You have no idea what happens to him or what he does. YOU DON'T KNOW.

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The Council of Optimuses: Pleasant, generally positive, they exiled Bayverse a while ago but they still check in once in a while to make sure he's ok/out of curiosity, Earthspark enables One's 'I can fix him' delusion to the point that Prime is falling into it too, IDW does NOT want to add to the delusion pile so he shuts up, Cyberverse kinda doesn't want to be at this meeting it feels too much like a party, IDW keeps making calls to somebody but he won't tell anyone who, they used to have 'bring your Bumblebee to work day' but Skybound had a breakdown over it so they can't do that anymore, everybody is suspicious of Skybound's new arm but the only person who actually brought it up was Bayverse whose solution was 'kill him' so now everybody thinks they are getting paranoid and should maybe start seeing a therapist (they should start seeing therapists, but they ARE right about the arm).

The Council of Megatrons: They are having a great time even if it looks horrible from the outside looking in, Prime constantly wants to fight IDW for his spot as the strongest Megatron but IDW is not about that, they tried to kick out Earthspark but he somehow keeps getting in (IDW leaves the door open), One has like 5 devils on his shoulder telling him to escalate and two fallen angels who are desperately trying to get across that maybe total destruction isn't the move, IDW is trying to hide his redemption arc in order to keep the situation under control (only Earthspark is aware of it, though Skybound has his suspicions), Cyberverse always tries to kill the others to take over their universes and it's the highlight of everybody's month, Bayverse is mocked for being killed by Optimus but secretly everybody is kinda jealous about it (Prime especially), one time an unidentified Starscream (it was Animated) broke in and it was on sight (he got away because every Megatron wanted to be the one who killed him and they fought each other over it), IDW keeps taking calls from somebody but he won't tell anyone who, Skybound can listen in on his Optimus's meetings due to being his arm and reports back, there is an ongoing debate about whether Galvatrons should be included.

Inspired by @jyang030107 's art of ES and IDW Megs advising their One counterpart.

[jd-arts319]

Emberblade official bio

Designation: Emberblade

Former name: ashblade(past-formerly),Cinderblade(present-formerly)

Nickname:emby,berry,Em,Emy,Cindy/indy

Age: late 20’s

Gender: (Mech, Femme)

Status: (Single, Taken)single-taken

Appearance:

- Dark purple & blue with teal & yellow truck

2nd:

-dark blue/navy blue & pale gold truck

Size: 7’0 ft

Alt Mode: customize petro-built truck & jet(windblades jet alt-mode)

Armor colors:

Primary:purple(formerly),dark/Navy blue(currently)

Secondary:blue(formerly),pale gold(currently)

Accents:teal & blue

Speed Limits:

- 145

Weapon(s):

- scythes,saber swords,Spears,bare servos,

Universe: (G1, Animated, Prime, RID,Beast wars, Beast Machines, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Bayverse,TF machinimas/combiner wars,power of the primes,war of Cybertron,IDW,Cyberverse)

-G1,animated,Prime-RID,TF machinimas/combiner wars,war of Cybertron,power of the primes,movieverse,cyberverse,IDW,

Sparkmate:Optimus prime

Sexuality:BI

Faction: (Autobot, Deceptcion, Neutral, Own creation)

-Autobot neutral 

Role:

Movieverse:espionage-leader,animated:scientist & inventor,Prime-RID:leader,scientist,inventor,POTP:chosen/ascendant of solus prime,IDW:vigilante leader & a cityspeaking oracle from Caminus,TF CV:(same as prime-RID),G1:Scientist,inventor & medic

Primary Class Function: scientist & inventor,leader

Secondary Class Function: espionage,medic

Subroutine Function: scout

Personality:

- crazy,perky,playful,kind,cunning,empathetic,intelligent,mild-tempered(don't test her),protective,mature,stern yet gentle,calm & patient(also never test it...)

Background story: 

she was once died as a science experiment from another timeline & reborn in Cybertron,she tries not to let herself be centered of attention & try to live like the rest of Cybertronian normally,however it was an avoidable as she ends up meeting alpha Trion then Orion pax,she became orion’s crazy amica endura.

{becoming orion’s amica endura}

-She was only known as Ashblades & stayed at iacon,she lives in a apartment when she was given a place to stay,skyfire was a jet who had let her stay on his complex for. While,she starts exploring iacon, she got interested when she saw they also had arts-based as well & she always had Fond of arts,so she decided to get herself a supply & digital art pads,for days she had done this,until she crossed path with Orion by accident,there where their friendship blossoms.

{meeting megatronus in kaon} 

-She met him when she goes to one of his matches,after the match is over,she goes to get his autograph for Orion,but she ends up running into some mech’s(2) who ends up flirting & harassing her,Megatronus heard noise,he thought she was in trouble but he ends seeing her beat down the last mech with her pedes,she grumbles until she sees him,both end up feeling awkward but she did get the autograph however it ends with her,being invited by him to his matches,leading up to her with Orion being friends with megatronus. 

{Orion becoming a prime & the start of the war}

-She had gone with megatronus & Orion to the council about megatronus ideal prospect to be heard,unfortunately it turns out he plans anarchy against them,however Orion had given his own ideals leading to the council being moved by his words,chosen as a prime & had megatronus start the war,both she & orion-now as Optimus-are in trouble.

{meeting Optimus & the humans} 

-When the evacuation of Cybertron happens,she got evacuate earlier than before by accident,that Optimus thought she was dead since he can't feel her bond,fast forward years later,they met again when she saved the humans(jack,Miko,& Raf) from some vehicons,the three only know her as neutral Cybertronian,none had told the autobots about her until she revealed herself when she saved Miko from her reckless behavior again,she & Optimus had a lot of catching up to do.

Strengths:

- her friends & family,her confidence,her mind

Weakness:

- her spark,herself her past,her nightmares,being hated,being ignored for too long,her self-esteem.

Abilities:

-telepathy,precognition & recognition,telekinesis, weapon summoning, Enhanced strength & speed,combat skills,teleportation,Telekinesis,weapon & soul manipulation,Enhanced intelligent.

Fighting style:

-Panzer kunst,Krav Maga,aikido,Brazilian jiu Jitsu,jeet kune do

Strength-10

Intelligence-9

Speed-10

Endurance-9

Rank-8

Courage-9

Firepower-10

Skill-10

Teamwork-9

Cooperation-9

Armor-9

Charisma-9

Dexterity-10

Stamina-10

Constitution-9

Wisdom-10

Family:

- Vita(creator),unknown parents(deceased)

Sparklings:

-Orpheus,Orion,bluewing

Friends:

- Orion pax/Optimus prime(amica/conjunx),ratchet(close friend),Skyfire,megatron,Dion pax/Ultra magnus, hot rod/rodimus prime,drift & wing(amica endura),eris,nightingale,pyra magna,elita-1,chromia & windblade, starscream,bumblebee(close friends),arcee,bulkhead,jazz(friends)

Enemies: 

Tfp

-megatron,arachnid,M.E.C.H/silas,nemesis prime (formerly)

Bayverse 

-Sentinel prime(formerly),KSI(formerly),astinger & savoy(currently/deceased),lockdown(deceased),Quintessons & Quintessa(unknown),nemesis prime(formerly)

Tfa

-Sentinel minor(refuse to acknowledge as a prime),council 

Tf G1 

-Quintessons,

Favorite Quotes to says:

-“it doesn't matter if you are in different Factions,I choose to help them because friend or foe,we are still Cybertronians,children of primus Themsleves”

2nd bio:bayverse 

Transformers 

{before TF1,meeting bumblebee}

-she first met him when he came down to earth,she was already hiding there & seeing his signal was an accident,she wants to avoid meeting him,but she did end up meeting him in the end,afterwards she decided to join bumblebee on finding the glasses,she became close friends with him for a long time,until she met Sam,mikaela & the rest of the Autobots.

Aftermath of TF1 

-after the battle,she took the piece of the all spark from megatron’s chest,she kept it hidden & she was offered by Optimus to join to come with them,not only she protected Sam but she also saved jazz life,not long after she asked to join,she became an Autobot neutral,she now stayed at the N.E.S.T base with the Autobots & start a new life there,it took time but she grew closer with them,especially the leader himself.

ROTF 

-when she & the others found out about the fallen,they decided to deal with it,leaving into more surprising aspects,when Optimus died,it broke her but she kept it in & decided to help Sam & the others get the matrix to Optimus,she protected Sam from megatron’s blast by shielding him but both end up getting hurt,only for Sam to meet the primes,after he gone back from passing out,he manage to revive Optimus,despite her major wounds she still ends up fighting along side with the others,then after the battle she pass out. 

Aftermath of ROFT 

-she woke up on the medbay with bumblebee,Sam & Optimus,she understood bumblebee & Sam,but surprised to see Optimus as well,the 4 end up talked about what happened,with Optimus thanking her & sam’s help,she was surprised & asked why? She understood Sam,but why her?,it turns out because of her protecting sam despite he passed out,suffered minor injuries,he was able to get to revive Optimus thanks to her,she brushed it off & said that is ok,she still didn't do much anyway,afterwards things gone off nicely but she & Sam grew closer,along with the certain leader as well.

DOTM 

-after what happened,they rescued sentinel prime,they found out her made deal with megaton,but thanks to the orcale pendant,they manage to upper hand him before he can hurt anyone else,leaving Ironhide alive,they put him on stasis cuffs to make sure he will not escape,but Shockwave manage got to him & took the information by brutal force,leaving sentinel sacred,he ends up joining their sides,with the help thanks to ratchet,Optimus,& herself,they were able to defeat megatron.

Aftermath DOTM 

-after the battle they stayed a few weeks before leaving,William found out that the pendant had warned them about Autobots & Decepticons no-all Cybertronians destruction,when the day the world broke their alliagance with them,before the government could even announce this,they already had left & gone into hiding.

AOE

-when they found out drift,crosshair & Hound are out there,she,Optimus,& bumblebee decided to go,leaving Sentinel & ratchet in charge of their hideout,they send a message that they will be gone a few months,inches months they too had gone into hiding as well,they end up meeting casualties,Optimus still end up meeting the Yeager family,everything had gone the same except the KSI,had most Decepticons & minimum of Autobots,while the others remain alive & are in the hiding,Optimus still end up leaving but left the leadership role to Emberblade & Bumblebee.

Aftermath of AOE 

-after he left,Emberblade told bumblebee to call the others while she asked crosshair & drift to help her bring the Dinobot back to their hiding place,metroplex,a hidden city for all Cybertronians-a like,once they brought them back,she replayed the message that Optimus told her to the others & help them with the dinobots while she & other two left.

TF the last knight 

-After a year.Optimus was gone,she & the others take refuge on a scrap yard with cade & his new companions Isabela & sqeeks,they end up meeting new Cybertronians,however they had a ran in with the TRF,ending with meeting sir Edmundo,hot rod,Cogman & Viviane,finding out about quintessa arrival on earth with Cybertron,the Knights of Cybertron & fighting nemesis prime & megatron-who now resurfaced once more,with the help of the others,they won the battle but.Something surrounds a mystery of earth itself.

Aftermath of TF the last knight 

-all of them had gone back to metroplex,they decided to stay longer before departing back to Cybertron,but among those years,a surprising twist shocked them finding out that Ember & Optimus are gonna have a 2nd sparkling,it turns out they start courting each other after the Egypt incident,& sparkbonded after the Chicago incident,they had their 1st sparkling back in metroplex,before they met Hound, drift, & crosshair 

Other: (other things about the character)

-she is my main TFverse oc

-She was an old oc who is shipped with Optimus prime 

-A cyber Esper,also came from the colony planet Caminus,

-Same past as my main oc,Reine but goes differently 

-this is TF(all media) X undertale crossover

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She belongs to me-

All Transformers media belongs to Hasbro's & the aligned continuities

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Why I love TFA pt 1: OP

OK SO! About a month ago I sent an ask to @needs-to-stop-looking-at-valves while they were doing their watch through of TFA to explain why I love TFA’s rendition of Optimus Prime. In the reblog I linked to, I mentioned that I could do a lot of writing about why I love TFA in general...so here’s part one, starting with the character that started it all! It’s 907 words, so it’s under a ‘read more’. 

It seems fitting to begin with the bot that started this entire idea of rambling about why I love the show that introduced me to Transformers, Optimus Prime in Transformers Animated. A quick summary of why I love him that I’ll expand on:

- Relatable thanks to his age

- Doing his best

- Not put up on a pedestal

- HE MAKES MISTAKES

- Genuinely unique origin story based on what I know

- Good personality

So whenever I describe TFA Optimus to someone who hasn’t watched the series, I tend to describe him as a “20-something year old trying his best.” And I feel like that is a fairly accurate description of him, He seems to be a lot younger than any other incarnation of OP, and it shows. He doesn’t understand everything, he has a type of optimism in a lot of situations that I don’t think is like, little kid ‘invincibility’ optimism, but it’s not grown up ‘could be worse!’ optimism either if that makes any sense. His is more in the form of hopefulness that things will get better, even if they aren’t great now. His motivational speech just within the first episode (That we can figure he does often since Prowl says “Not this speech again.”) is about how “Together we can move mountains.” Putting forth the effort, we can make anything happen. We can make things better.

He also makes more mistakes than I think any other incarnation of OP makes, and he acknowledges them and tries to fix them. He learns from his mistakes, which is so important! Especially considering the target audience for TFA is younger kids (though that doesn’t mean it sugar coats either!). It shows that actions have consequences, what you say to people has an affect on them. But it also shows that apologies are important, and so is listening to your teammates. Off the top of my head, whenever he gets in a fight with the rest of Team Prime, it’s because he’s being stubborn and isn’t listening to them because he’s the leader with the training (or something along those lines). Then the episode is spent with him realizing that he needs to listen to his friends, and he apologizes and listens to them, and things turn out ok. He’s allowed to make mistakes, and he’s shown being forgiven. (There’s also the Black Arachnea arc, where he isn’t forgiven, and it shows that not everyone will forgive you. But you can’t please everyone.)

Building off of him being allowed to make mistakes, it helps that he isn’t held on the same pedestal that I think every other Optimus is held up to. He’s not some wise, extremely powerful always calm and collected leader in a war. In TFA, Optimus is a soldier who made a mistake (That wasn’t entirely his fault either), and was punished for it by being demoted to repairing space bridges. He’s made mistakes and continues to make them, Ultra Magnus tells him not to be the hero, because it isn’t in his coding. He’s just a case of being in the right place at the right time, and managing to get in over his head. But he also managed to rise to the occasion, earning his position by the end of season 3.

Building off of that, while I don’t know a lot of backstories for Optimus (I have only seen TFA and TFP, and a tiiiiiny bit of Bayverse that I don’t even remember beyond the memes), his TFA backstory is really interesting and unique. TFA happens AFTER the ‘great war’ (or whatever it’s called in the show, I don’t remember), so Optimus wasn’t there for it. As far as I’m aware, he doesn’t have the Orion Pax origin story. He’s always been Optimus. AND PRIME WAS AN EARNED TITLE. It’s not something special bestowed by the 13 original Primes or Primus Himself thanks to the Matrix of Leadership or anything. It’s like our real life General or Colonel (I don’t know what Prime would actually equate to, in my head it’s a General). He’s not the only Prime we see in the show! (Given the only other Prime I remember is Sentinel...who I don’t think should be a Prime but that’s a rant for another day. JAZZ PRIME WOULD BE COOL THOUGH.)

The last thing I can think of about TFA Optimus that I think makes him stand out is that he has such a noticeable personality. By ‘noticeable personality’ I mean a personality that goes beyond the personally boring personality that most other Optimus’s (Optimi??) have that boils down to ‘Calm and collected leader who can do no wrong’. TFA Optimus is so expressive, he gets angry and sad. I don’t think I’ve heard literally any other Optimus laugh, and I know TFP Optimus never yelled at the rest of Team Prime. But TFA Optimus has gotten angry at Team Prime, because everyone gets frustrated. No realistic person has the patience of a saint. It’s hard to relate to because every normal person has lost their patience with someone, and wants to be listened to just this once. It’s so much more relatable to have an Optimus Prime who isn’t afraid to express himself and what he’s thinking. It’s so refreshing.

So...yeah...TFA Optimus is my favorite incarnation of Optimus Prime that I’ve come across so far because I find him to be more interesting and relatable, and extremely unique.

[matrixbearer]

Bayverse!anon again I'm a bit disappointed in both fandom and film makers that the tragedies shown in the movies are not being discussed more in depth. I have nobody who cares enough about the franchise to discuss anything except the "explosions", but that's why I appreciate your insight. There was something about the movies that left me with a weird feeling. You put it into words when you explained that the Transformers are facing extinction. Having seen TLK recently, I noticed that P ½

P 2/2 Optimus and Megatron’s actions can be seen from different perspectives. No doubt Optimus is the better person of the two. However, if I was a Transformer there is a chance I could side with Megatron especially after AoE. During the last fight in against Quintessa one of my thoughts was: if I was a Transformer desperate and angry enough I would probably let her? This is what makes the theme of extinction so interesting. It has no solution. And at the end of the film nobody is really fine.

Hm, I’ve heard similar arguments for Megatron, including Tyran Megatron. However, I find it is an error in judgment for a variety of reasons beyond the “Well, Megatron is the worst.”

Cool motive, still genocide—

Megatron never wants to rebuild Cybertron. Well, he never wants to rebuild Cybertron. He always wants to rebuild it in his image; it is a Biblical theme of of some divine entity exerting influence over another and reforming them to mirror their own.

The other issue the same as with Sentinel and Quintessa: they want to rebuild Cybertron, which they will rule as they see fit, at the sacrifice of another plane (see: Earth). Many Autobots would love to have their world back, but this is a faction that has almost the same philosophical loyalty to Optimus as the Decepticons (when it was convenient for them or the writers) had with Megatron. In the end it is about the motives: selflessness vs. selfishness.

Optimus’ desire for Cybertron is legitimately about the continuation of his people. This is his homeworld. He fought in the tribal wars and he helped unite them. He helped to build the Empire as it was in its last age, arguably one of its golden age if not for the pesky problem of energon resources steadily beginning to run low—think of our climate change and how it started small, scientists were warning us, and now it is sneaking up at us at a rapid pace. But back to what I was saying about how Optimus genuinely loves Cybertron. He doesn’t love himself. He doesn’t love the power. He doesn’t see Cybertron OR its people as a tool for himself, he sees himself as a tool for Cybertron and its people.

Before Megatron’s faulty motives is explained in the context of his back story and past before, I must clarify one important fact about Tyran Cybertron:

Cybertron had two real divisions in their society: civilian and military.

This shaped everything. From the macro level to the micro. Megatron was the leader of the military, and Optimus was the leader of the civilians.

Cybertronian civilians have taken a vow to give up their violent ways. Referring a previous anon, it was explained how the Cybertronians are naturally violent. As a test of their free will many Cybertronians took that vow as a way of making amends for the tribal wars that came to follow. Think of it like this: it was almost like half the population took a vow of silence. But, instead of silence, it was to abstain from violence. Another fictional analogy would be to refer to the history of Star Trek’s Vulcans, who also had a history of extensive conflict until they were led to peace through a vow of logic. Monk’s (may) give up their speech, Vulcan’s get rid of their emotions, and Cybertronians gave up violence. It was a societal addiction and they went all or nothing. So, military went all out and the civilians had none of it.

This distance from their violent past was crucial to the civilians, and one reason why Optimus was chosen to be their leader beyond reasons of “Oh, he’s a Prime.” It is because he was the first leader to show any ability to be peaceful; he gave a speech on a battlefield that swayed the sparks of many, and Ironhide was the first to preferably lay down his sword. The laying down of sword for the civilians was everything. They would struggle like any addict, and one way they managed it was clearly defining the differences between those in the military and those not.

As leader of the military, Megatron’s job was to led those will indulgent in violence to use that in a way that protected Cybertron and freed the civilians to… well, more civil pursuits.

Thus, Optimus became Prime and Megatron became the “High Lord Protector.” However, originally he was to solely be referred to as the “Protector.” But notice that in his official title “High Lord” is added on. Why? Was that already there? No, it was there at Megatron’s behest. He wanted to still Lord over people. 

When the energon famine really began to be a clear and present danger he argued with Optimus, the civilian leader, that the resources should be rationed and diverted predominantly to the more “stronger” Cybertronians and the weak should be left to fend for themselves. Notably this is a primal way of thinking, and isn’t without some basic evolutionary logic. However, as Optimus ascertained they are not wild animals. They are sentient—the strong should PROTECT the weak. Although it could be said Megatron wanted to keep the resources for the “most likely to survive” had some logic, it loses that rationality when put into the context that Megatron’s motives were that the strongest Cybertronian’s were the military—which was directly under his control. On the other hand, the civilians (Optimus’ part) was considered the weaker. This would leave Megatron with total control of Cyberton, and Optimus would have no legitimate influence to help curb Megatron’s worst qualities—qualities that Sentinel constantly criticized.

With the leaders unable to come to a settlement the struggle began as a cold conflict working behind the scenes. As it could be surmised, it was Megatron and his supporters who had more subversive means of getting their way while the leaders were officially in a morally grey stalemate. Officially their factions were given equal share of the resources and the leader would divide the resources among their faction as they saw fit. Megatron the strongest, Optimus everyone.

At that time Megatron claimed to agree with Optimus on one thing goal in the meantime: finding the AllSpark. It is important to note that before becoming Prime, Optimus had previously been an archeologist. Now, the military has no archeologists, and Optimus was the senior most archeologist on Cybertron. So, according to the laws of the land the hunt for the AllSpark fell directly under Optimus’ purview, not Megatron’s or his military. This was salt to rub in that Megatron was just a violent soldier, the fiercest and more volatile of them all. In the military this gave him respect, but the civilians did not respect that.

Respect was something Megatron struggled with, and it was one of his emotional hot buttons. The two (spark brothers) had been groomed and mentored by Sentinel—he was something of a father to them. The two absolutely adored him. Sentinel loved Optimus, even if he was frustrated with Optimus’ absolutism about sticking to his personal virtues. Optimus was perfect, could really do no wrong, and Megatron was a failure in comparison because he was such a brute. At least, that is how Megatron saw Sentinel’s treatment of them and honestly he wasn’t far off. Sentinel was cruel to both, though in different ways. Most of the time he was groomed into a sense of security and trust in loyalty, given positive feedback if he pleased Sentinel. His mentor would manipulate him in the most seditious of ways. If Optimus went against his wishes.Sentinel was passive-aggressive of just nasty, making Optimus feel like he wasn’t living up to him—he was a disappointment. But Megatron? He got smacked around, physically. He was always scolded and treated like a rabid dog that failed. In the end, both wanted Sentinel’s approval.

Now, the relationship between Sentinel and the dyadic leaders as both a singular unit and individuals is important. It shapes Megatron’s motives to find the AllSpark before Optimus. The famine began to ramp up and the quest for the AllSpark began. As mentioned earlier this quest would be Optimus’ job, his responsibility, because he was the civilian leader & a highly respected archeologist. So when the AllSpark would be found… who would get all the credit and the glory? Let it not be forgotten that they wait to fight over the I had already begun before it was even found. Megatron had to get to it first if he was going to become the more powerful of the two, have his military control Cybertron. Yes he cared about Optimus or even Sentinel, but it was not sufficient to stop him from undermining Optimus’ powers. At that time he was torn between completely overthrowing his brother or just asserting dominance with his military.

So, the race to find the AllSpark was off. This was when Megatron found the Fallen’s tomb. Why did he find the tomb? Because he was searching for the AllSpark when according to Cybertronian laws he wasn’t supposed to. The Fallen possessed him, brought out the already destructive traits to the surface and had them completely take over. In the end it was the Autobots who found the AllSpark and the war began.

Megatron has no track record of wanting to rebuild Cybertron for altruistic reasons. His motives were selfish, malicious, and ultimately brought ruin to their world. In TLK Lennox asks Megatron what he wants and Megatron’s answer is, “To go home.”

This sounds sincere, but it isn’t. If it was he would have done what was written in the DOTM’s book ending and that was a call for truce. In the DOTM’s book it ends not with Megatron’s death, instead it is the two reuniting because Megatron realizes that the only way for Cybertron to be rebuilt is if he works WITH Optimus. In TLK he is fighting against Optimus.

Of course, that is when Quintessa comes into play. When Quintessa slaps Optimus she leaves a scarlet mark; the mark of her ownership. Whatever powers are in it have the capacity to begin take control. The mark on Megatron’s face shows exactly who he belongs to, and the best plausibility is that he is Quintessa’s puppet. Her strings with Megatron were probably much the same as with Optimus: the promise of reviving Cybertron.

It is unlike that Quintessa’s revival of Cybertron would have been good for the surviving Transformers.

Note: I will shortly be writing up a headcanon to explain the state of Cybertron as presented in the movie and it will elaborate on what is to follow in this answer.

Cybertronians fear enslavement. They fear it. Yes, we do too. But not all of us have experienced a recent memory of enslavement. Cybertronians do. They also know what it is like to be led by someone that ultimately destroys everything they care about. Many Decepticons didn’t even think far enough about why they were obeying Megatron. They did it out of loyalty or because they get to blow shit up. Autobots, for all their roughhousing and their inclination to interact as we would perceive as violent, they do want peace. They don’t want to have the kind of war Megatron and his Decepticons want. They know they are the last of their kind. They want to sun on the beaches of Cuba and play some volley ball. They are TIRED. Right now all they have is Earth or a dead & rotten planet. Most Cybertronians are going to see a repeat of their experiences: Megatron leading them to domination or the Autobots trying to protect what they care about. One is total destruction and one is just total preservation.

Ultimately, I do not believe most Cybertronians would help Quintessa and/or Megatron revive Cybertron unless they are already a follower of Megatron and inclined to excessive violence for the sake of it. They will see that Optimus and Megatron are on opposing sides and unless they are already a Decepticon… they are going to side with who they trust to not be a planet killer. These are the last survivors—they are experienced, they know better. They know that Megatron’s word can never be taken at face value.

And ultimately, those surviving Transformers who are not already on Megatron’s side are the ones who have lived long enough to value the sanctity of sentient life more than they already did before the war, and that’s saying a lot because Optimus wasn’t the only one advocating for the preservation of sentient beings. This particular virtue isn’t even an ethical one for Cybertronian, but a moral one with practical applications. The original Primes had the law that they could not use the sun of a solar system that had any planets with life on it. The Cybertronians find it aborhant to throw away like that, which puts their so-called violent nature into perspective by illustrating that they, by large, had a clear line on the issue of sacrificing one group of sentient beings for the benefit of another—even their own. Transformers just don’t respect any action calling for the compromise of their most highly valued ideals if committed at the expense of others. They like seeing themselves of guardians of younger alien species.

As you can see I have a lot to say on the matter of justifications of Megatron’s intentions to revive Cybertron. It is a subject that has come up in a few continuities, Tyran and Aligned being chief among them.

In the end I see no way to justify Megatron’s actions that he may disguise as altruism until it is clearly narrated that he has had a redemptive moment of self-insight. i.e. Him at the end of TFP Season 2 and him at the end of Predacon’s Rising.

Trust no bucket until it the truck says so.

[j0sei]

Hoo boy, do I have some opinions about this movie. I saw it at noon today and I'm still processing some things. I largely agree with The Ragin Nation's first review. The editing is so abrupt and the pacing is so fast at points that I'm actually having trouble remembering certain things. Most of the time I just wasn't engaged in what was happening. I'm gonna say straight up that this review will be disjointed because I'm still thinking about what happened and, well, I'm a lousy writer lol.

Absolute favorite part of the movie: Cogman. 90% of the time he's on screen, I'm clutching my gut. Amazing, amazing character. He has the best lines. Cogman: (cheerfully) Master, if you rip a human's arm off they'll do whatever you tell them to! Sir Edmund: ...what is wrong with you? Then there's his head spinning while he threatens to crush Cade's windpipe and the part where he talks about being filled with road rage while pounding the steering wheel and singing Ludacris' "Move Bitch." I don't know why most of the other Transformers weren't that well-written but Cogman was gold. Thankfully, he doesn't die. Unfortunately, while he is called a Headmaster, he doesn't do any Headmaster-like things. Sir Edmund is a cool character, too, but he dies at the end. Anthony Hopkins is incredible as always. I like Laura Haddock's performance. Vivian is clever and funny and by far the most interesting human character after Sir Edmund. Cade is, uh, as he always is. His bluff about punching a kid in the face isn't really that funny, but texting his daughter with smiley faces to look at the sky for him at the end is pretty endearing (even if cell phones shouldn't really work up there lol). The Daytrader is another interesting character that's only around for two minutes. He knows what the little medallion thing is and what it represents before anyone else, so I wonder if that's a hint for later movies. His comment about Hound possibly having a drinking problem was actually pretty funny. Also his suggestive comment about taking an oil bath and Drift's revulsion at the image. Drift does some interesting sword yoga/meditation. He seems like he still struggles to keep his violent impulses under control. The baby dinobots are never explained at all. Unnervingly, the Autobots are a little callous towards them. Drift threatens to kill mini-Strafe (and plays with him afterwards, so I don't think he was too serious but he WAS violently swinging his sword at him) when mini-Strafe interrupts his sword yoga and Hound actually shoots one off a roof with his bullet cigar. He calls having them around a "Transformers puppy infestation.” Cade calls mini-Grimlock "T" and I think mini-Strafe was "P"? Something like that. I don't recall the name of mini-Slug. Hound is also pretty callous about Izabella coming with them on the front lines. She doesn't have to sneak around, he literally just brings her along when she asks. I just remembered the little watch-bot that killed Hitler. WTH. Also the Jetfire look-alike at Sir Edmund’s mansion was a nice touch. EDIT 2: I also like the fact that they actually name names in this movie. I mean, how many characters go unnamed in every movie in this series? I love when Sir Edmund tells Cade that Bumblebee was part of the Devil's Brigade and Cade has a hard time believing it because "Bee's so nice." Sir Edmund says Bumblebee was known for many things—nice was not one of them. I mean, damn. Bee has some skeletons in his closet. I wanna know how he handles mowing down humans in WWII when, technologically speaking, they weren't able to hurt Cybertronians at the time. It's actually really uncomfortable to think about. Also the fact that Cybertronians fought in our wars at all. The implications are never touched on. Seeing the crazy-faced eBay picture of Sam from the first movie was cool but there's STILL no mention of what happened to him. Are they leaving things open for Shia to come back or what? I'm 1000% sure that's not gonna happen. One thing I love is how the movie now drops any pretense of Cybertronians doing things—like defying the Laws of Physics—because of superior technology and just says everything is Magic™. Speaking of, Hot Rod's magic gun is AWESOME. One of the best parts of the movie is when he uses it to help Hound push back Megatron. In the one part where Megatron is holding Starscream's head, he calls him his "treacherous friend" and rubs his thumb over Starscream's mouth piece. It was ... strangely intimate. I ship it. Now for the worst part of the movie: Optimus Prime's dialogue. I hate, hate, hate his dialogue SO MUCH. It sounds like Optimus is trying to give a rousing speech all the time and it's awkward and stilted. It's like he's talking AT people instead of TO them; an actor in a play reciting his lines to the audience. This movie takes a few cues from Transformers: Prime, so I think they made Bayverse Optimus more like that Optimus—but in a bad, flanderized way. It seems like the director told Cullen to recite his lines in the most dramatic way and had him call it a day. It just didn't feel organic at all. There's this one line that's so baffling and cringey where he laments betraying humans and how Earth was the only planet he was allowed to call home. WTF? YOU WEREN'T ALLOWED TO CALL CYBERTRON HOME? Also did you forget what happened in the last movie??? It was SUCH a weird fucking line of dialogue. EDIT 1: I just remembered another part where Optimus says he has not heard Bee speak since the fall of Cybertron, but Bee gained his voice back at the end of the very first movie. Uh? Optimus kept saying he betrayed the Knights and Earth but he was brainwashed into it and nothing is said of it. It's like everyone but Cade assumes he did it of his own free will and Optimus himself makes NO point to contradict that. Although, he does get a few good lines. Megatron: We were brothers once! Optimus: Once. Optimus: Did you forget who I am? [kills all the Infernocons in one swing] I am Optimus Prime! Optimus: (to Quintessa) Say 'hello' to my little friend: Bumblebee. Also, am I crazy or did Optimus sound strangely like Sentinel in the beginning of the movie? Almost EXACTLY like him when he landed on Cybertron. But he lands on Cybertron and acts horrified and confused as to what happened to it. Again, did he not pay attention to what happened in DOTM? I just don't understand wtf was going on here. It's bizarre how amazing the writing is in some spots and horrible in others. I did read that they took two scripts and joined them, so maybe that's why? I don't want to say I hate the movie but ... it's like ... it's a mostly meh movie with some really entertaining parts thrown in. I really liked the humor. I didn't think it was forced like the Ragin Nation said. The stinger was definitely interesting and I want to see more, but ... I just think it could have been better. I think Optimus deserved better.

[tinydefector]

I know, I'm waiting with you to watch it all go down

I can't wait to see the shitstorm and hell that is going to be Sentinel Prime's tag the second the film officially releases.

You aren't ready. You have no idea what happens to him or what he does. YOU DON'T KNOW.