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howwelldoyouknowyourmoon · 2 years ago
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Barrytown: We talked to our son “for over 12 hours and he was shaking and vomiting”
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Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 7
March 22, 1976
To whom it may concern:
Our son joined Moon’s group in late 1971 and was coaxed to join by a room-mate. Our son was taking graduate courses. He was a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of a U.S. University in the mid-west. He was definitely idealistic, because he quit his job in his hometown because he felt the institution he worked for charged exorbitant interest rates to under-developed countries.
Mike (this is not his name) has never been home since he joined the group, because we told him we felt he was wasting his life working for Moon. We believe he has been in practically every state in the union, even Alaska, but not Hawaii. We had cards from many places. However, we did visit him twice. We noted the houses were clean where he lived. But I thought the food was not adequate. Both places had an open jar of peanut butter sitting on a table and a loaf of bread. Coffee and tea seemed to be available, but we saw no fresh fruit nor vegetables.
Mail from Mike has been infrequent and short, usually cards. However the very first letter was frightening—rambling and 10 or 12 pages long, trying to tell us why he joined this movement. He talked about the drug problem, the race problem, poverty in the world, etc. And he implied that those who joined this group had all the answers. He never mentioned the name Unification Church nor Moon for over a year after he was in the group.
We seemed to get no Christmas or Easter greetings. One Christmas we got a Christmas greeting with a snow scene. Our family always sent religious cards at Christmas. But Christmas 1974 we got no word at all. Then in February we got word Mike was married by Moon in a mass wedding in Korea. He was married to a German girl we had never heard of.
He said he worked with her in the group for a year, but our daughter, a nurse went to hear one of Moon’s talks the November before and met all the young people with him and this girl was not one of them. So we feel Mike lies to protect Moon. Later (in March) we received a letter from “our daughter-in-law”. She said, “I know you must wonder about your son who went out into the world and married someone you never met before”. But she gave no explanation of this.
Then later we received a letter from our son’s father-in-law from Germany. He and his wife are very good Christian people and they went to the trouble to find a student to write to us in English. They wanted to know about the family now related to their daughter. We immediately told them we did not approve of the Moon Movement and they too said it has been the heartbreak of their lives. She, the daughter-in-law, was still being held in Germany after being flown from Japan in December. They are having visa problems we hear.
Our son was taken back to the States in early November 1995 to Barrytown, N.Y. The father-in-law of our son told us about this and we called for several days before he finally called us back. Then we took a chance on going up to see him, my other son, an ex-Moonie and I, Mike’s mother. The ex-Moonie told him the movement was a big rip-off. We talked to him for over 12 hours and he was shaking and vomiting. It was terrible to see him so programmed that if he broke in the middle of an explanation, he would have to start all over again just like a record. He told us he just read that Franco of Spain died that morning, after we told him he does not read nor listen to TV or radio. Franco, in fact, did not die for several days. Anyway, I stepped into the bathroom for a minute and he fled, because his brother fell asleep. He left his coat and ran out into the rain. We looked for him for a while and then called the ex-Moonie’s mother and she told us to get out of New York quick or we would be arrested. We left and I was so shaken from this experience, I spent 10 days in a mental hospital for my nerves. After witnessing the fear and vomiting, I was relieved to see him go. But later I still cry for what has happened to my intelligent son.
I want to add here too that my son gave Moon $1,400 he had in a local bank. And when he married he defaulted on a state school educational loan. I received a letter about this in January 1975 and I gave the state all the recent addresses I had for my son. My son told me when we saw him November 1975 that he thought Moon paid off his loan. We heard also from a reliable source that Moon charged each person he married $400. Moon now is sending out booklets “Way of World” to presently active Moonie’s parents to make us more understanding. The NERVE he has—we now NEVER get a letter from our son at all. I cannot understand why the U.S. government lets this terrible thing happen to us, the tax paying citizens, and this foreigner with a permanent visa makes fools of us. Someone must be getting paid off. The First Amendment we need, but our judges and law makers administer the law.
Name withheld
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A visit to Ann at Barrytown (1975)
At Barrytown all members must continually strive to lose their identity and become one with Moon’s will (1976)
Ken Sudo and the secret Barrytown 120-day training manual and Unification Church telephone fraud
Physically restrained against his will at Barrytown
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 2 Moon’s mass marriages are “a form of sex perversion”
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 3 Our son “seemed to be in a bizarre world of science fiction”
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 4 “only if she got rid of the baby and gave it up for adoption”
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 5 Moon is a man devoid of of human compassion
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 6 “One of your ancestors was a peeping Tom.”
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 8 Many parents suffered heartbreak after losing their children to the Moonies
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whatisonthemoon · 2 years ago
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Security with guns at Barrytown
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“. . . New Haven Advocate, Jan. 7, 1976, at 3, col. 2 (visitors to Unification Church training camp in Barrytown describe "security measures" that include guard houses, walkie-talkies, and shotguns);  . . .”
Cited in The Assassination of Representative Leo J. Ryan and the Jonestown, Guyana Tragedy: Report of a Staff Investigative Group to the Committee on Foreign Affairs, U.S. House of Representatives
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cillianmurphysdimples · 2 months ago
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Time for a new read. Well, re-read. It's been a couple of years since I read this one through so it's time to pick it up again. God bless these three hilariously addictive stories.
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dryndelicate · 3 months ago
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AI Creator Challenge: Musical Inspirations
The song, with all the biting sarcasm typical of Donald Fagan's lyrics, is one of the strongest pleas for tolerance and for overcoming reservations about apparent outsiders in order to connect as human beings.
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Having missed the instruction to provide a single image, this will be the selected one. After all "Barrytown people got to be from another world".
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I want all of you, from whichever Barrytown you're coming from and whatever baggage you're carrying, feel welcome here on Tumblr in our little AI community, even when my AI tool utterly fails at diversity, populating the place with all white hippies.
@synth-ai @danni-gurrl @gigiprinceton
@ai-satin-chic @softsmooth69 @fluffyfaza
@mohairmaster @mistressmaurahypno @hollyjumper
@andysfantasie @milunessence @anderii @burningpoisonroaster
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garadinervi · 22 days ago
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Dick Higgins, Poems Plain & Fancy, Station Hill Press, Inc., Barrytown, NY, 1986 [Fondazione Bonotto, Molvena (VI). © Dick Higgins]
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chernobog13 · 10 months ago
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ST. PADDY'S DAY MOVIE LIST
What I'll be tossin' in the ole BluRay player to watch tonight and tomorrow (I've got the day off, to make up for today), in no particular order:
Gorgo (1961)
Darby O'Gill and the Little People (1959)
The Quiet Man (1952)
The Barrytown Trilogy: The Commitments (1991), The Snapper (1993), and The Van (1996), all featuring our man Colm Meaney
Hear My Song (1991)
The Guard (2011)
Waking Ned Devine (1998)
Agnes Brown (1999)
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nedison · 1 year ago
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Joetown - XTC // Steely Dan
Standing In For Joe meets Barrytown.
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unexpected-analogues · 1 year ago
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Thread Two: In Barrytown, New Jersey a young amateur computer hacker, Bobby Newmark, self-named "Count Zero", is given a piece of black market software by some criminal associates "to test". When he plugs himself into the matrix and runs the program, it almost kills him. The only thing that saves his life is a sudden image of a girl made of light who interferes and unhooks him from the software just before he flatlines. After fleeing his house (which is immediately thereafter destroyed) he meets Lucas, Beauvoir, and Jackie, a group fascinated by and dedicated to the recent appearance of voodoo deities in Cyberspace, who take him into their protection as they are collectively targeted by various corporate agents.
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Only Seeing God When I Come - Sega Bodega (2021)
Shot by Aidan Zamiri Styled by Aga Dziedzic Makeup by Isamaya Ffrench
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radiophd · 3 months ago
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steely dan -- barrytown
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maximuswolf · 8 months ago
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Covers by unlikely artists?
Covers by unlikely artists? What are some cover songs by artists that you would never have expected to cover that song, or even anything else by the original artist? The covers don't necessary have to be brilliant, just unexpected. A few to get started:The Beatles' "I Want To Tell You", covered by Ted Nugent Bruce Springsteen's "Sandy (4th Of July, Asbury Park)Sandy (4th Of July, Asbury Park)", covered by The Hollies Steely Dan's "Barrytown", covered by Ben Folds Five Submitted May 09, 2024 at 11:42AM by TheSanityInspector https://ift.tt/9PNzTFL via /r/Music
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magnetictapedatastorage · 9 months ago
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howwelldoyouknowyourmoon · 2 years ago
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Ken Sudo and the secret Barrytown 120-day training manual and UC telephone fraud
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▲ Ken Sudo
1976
To whom it may concern:
I, Janis, was a member of the Unification Church cult for 13 months.
When I completed toy 120-day training session at Barrytown, New York, I was given a manual which included the lectures that Mr. Ken Sudo, the head of Barrytown, had given in this 120-day session, I, as well as each graduate of that session, was told to guard that manual with my life, not to show it to even another Unification Church member. We were strongly cautioned that the press and the police would not understand it.
When I was rescued from this cult, I was home a week before my parents brought in a deprogrammer. In this period I kept this manual in a locked suitcase and had told my parents that the suitcase contained winter clothing. I lived in fear that someone might see this and was trying to decide on a safe place to hide it.
When I was deprogrammed and could see that I had been deceived by this so-called “Church”, I brought out this manual for my deprogrammer and my parents to see.
Since then I have had many nightmares in which the cult was trying to kill me for having brought this manual out of the cult and having shown it to others.
My parents in a recent trip to Washington, D.C. gave a copy of this manual to the Justice Department, in the hope that it will encourage them to investigate this cult, I believe this manual to be an excellent example of the "brainwashing" or "mind-control" techniques used by this Unification Church cult.
I have never known such terror as I did the moment I came to the realization that I could not control my own mind, that I had been given a new pattern of thinking.
Janis F.
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Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 1
To whom it may concern:
Our daughter, Janis, was a member of the Unification Church cult for thirteen months. We rescued her from this cult in August 1975.
In January 1976, a Mrs. Gardiner who is a collector for the Southwestern Bell Telephone Company in Houston, Texas, called our home trying to locate our daughter, Janis. We inquired as to what her purpose was. She then informed us that Janis had an overdue telephone account in Houston. We assured her there must be a mistake as Janis had never lived in Houston, Mrs. Gardiner said the Unification Church had opened an account in Janis’ name; so she contacted the Yonkers, N.Y., office and a Kevin McCarthy gave her Janis’ home phone number.
Since Janis was totally unaware that such an account had been opened and had never given anyone permission to charge calls to her, Mrs. Gardiner has since written a letter exonerating her from this liability.
Mrs. Gardiner did inform us that this was the way the Unification seems to operate—they open telephone accounts in the name of members with telephone accounts in good standing. This was not the first such experience the telephone company had had with the Unification Church.
We requested that the telephone company write us a letter stating this but, because of having nothing written, no signatures, they would not as they did not want to become liable for a suit from the Unification Church. Their records would be open for investigation only under order of a subpoena—should any government agency decide to look into such matters.
We feel that this constitutes a conspiracy to commit fraud or theft and that it also constitutes slander or defamation of character against our daughter.
J. F. R. F., Lt. Col. (Ret.)
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Sun Myung Moon makes me feel ashamed to be Korean
Papasan Choi and Boonville’s Japanese origins
Moon church of Japan used members for profit, not religious purposes
How Sun Myung Moon bought protection in Japan
At Barrytown all members must continually strive to lose their identity and become one with Moon’s will (1976)
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 2 Moon’s mass marriages are “a form of sex perversion”
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 3 Our son “seemed to be in a bizarre world of science fiction”
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 4 “only if she got rid of the baby and gave it up for adoption”
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 5 Moon is a man devoid of of human compassion
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 6 “One of your ancestors was a peeping Tom.”
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 7 Secret 1975 marriage, shaking and vomiting
Voices of parents of children lost to the moonies 8 Many parents suffered heartbreak after losing their children to the Moonies
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whatisonthemoon · 2 years ago
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Not exactly a fixer-upper: Unification Seminary in Barrytown up for sale (2018)
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Got a spare $20 million on hand? Ready to finally fork over for those 260 acres with nine buildings, gorgeously overlooking the Hudson River and distant Catskill Mountains? For a cool $16,750,000, down from the original asking price of $17,995,000, you can have the former Massena estate in Barrytown, originally owned by the illustrious Livingston family, later bought by John D. Rockefeller so he could build a monastery for the Christian Brothers there, and still later sold to the Unification Church, then led by the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, so he could start a Theological Seminary for his huge enterprise in the 1970s. That’s who is selling it now.
And an extra $2 million could go a long way towards making it into whatever one wanted.
“We have to find someone wealthy. We’re thinking in terms of museums, wellness centers, schools,” said Victoria Fischer of the property, being one of two brokers at Marcus & Milchap in Westchester County handling its sale since late Spring. “The place is in great shape; they’re still using the building.”
Fisher spoke about other large properties in the general neighborhood. Edgewater is a storied estate overlooking the Hudson that’s regained its old glory in recent years, after being owned for a spell by a much-younger Gore Vidal. Rokeby, also known as La Bergerie, is the former Astor estate a little to the south, run by the Aldrich family for years as a shared creative bastion where, among other things, New York City’s annual Halloween parade through Greenwich Village gets plotted out each summer and fall. Sylvania, smaller than the rest, remains in a storied family whose name shall go unmentioned; George and Susan Quasha maintain their long-running Station Hill compound for publishing and other artistic endeavors in what could be construed as “downtown” Barrytown (a crossroads of buildings, as it were).
“I’m not one to look behind I know that times must change/ But over there in Barrytown they do things very strange,” sang Steely Dan in their song “Barrytown,” off their 1974 album Pretzel Logic.
“The Banks are lined with elegant villas — thought it was the consummation of Earthly Bliss to live in one of those palaces, on such a Noble River, under such a Government,” wrote a young poet named Davidson in the early 19th century, who later grew Edgewater into a grand mansion while some of the old money was running from the area once a railroad was put in right up the banks of the Hudson, breaking their fabled views (and quiet).
When asked about the Unification Seminary’s largest neighbor, Bard College in nearby Annandale-on-Hudson — which recently bought the historic Montgomery Place estate just to the north of what was once Massena, to be used for events and environmental studies programs, among other things — Fisher said her company has reached out to the college. She added that they said they “were not interested at this point.”
What the realtors have been getting to date, she added, were “nibbles and bites, basically from people who want to make sure they have the money to do what they want.”
She mentioned the recent sale of a large convent, formerly the Kenwood Academy and Doane Stuart School in Albany, that sold to developers looking to create condominiums (Doane Stuart moved to a new location within the past decade). What she didn’t mention was that sale ended up one third under its original asking price.
In Barrytown, meanwhile, the Unification Church property includes a 120,000 square foot main building, shaped like an “H” with an updated “upper” half and older, mid-century-style dorms on the lower half. Ancillary buildings add up to another 150,000 square feet. There’s a chapel, library, dining halls, kitchens. There are offices, classrooms, guest rooms, an infirmary, a two-story gym, a 400-seat auditorium, and a 100-seat lecture hall.
“The Unification people feel as if they’re cutting off their left arm, selling the seminary,” Fisher added. They want to keep it but already have a lot of expensive real estate in midtown Manhattan.”
The Unification Church was founded by Rev. Moon in South Korea in the 1950s, following the Korean Conflict. It began spreading in the United States throughout the 1960s, after which Moon moved stateside in 1971. The Barrytown property was bought in 1974, and eventually the church and Rev. Moon bought numerous other properties, including the old New Yorker Hotel on 34th Street in Manhattan. They founded the conservative Washington Times, started matching couples and marrying couples from his followers in mass ceremonies at Madison Square Garden and other arena venues, and Dr. Moon was jailed for tax evasion for several years. He died in 2012.
Back in 1994, when the 25th anniversary of the Woodstock Festival took place in Saugerties, a number of key acts staying on the east side of the Hudson, including Bob Dylan, were flown by helicopter to the Winston Farm concert grounds from a landing area at the seminary.
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leanstooneside · 1 year ago
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Seeking clarity
HORROR BUT I
DAYS OR HOURS
IT TO THEM
MONEY BUT YOU
NIGHT BEFORE? NO
CREAK AND RUSTLE
PROJECTS OR WHITES
ACTION AND THERE
BARRYTOWN AND HE
MATRIX BUT HE'D
GIRLHAIR BUT IT'S
BOBBY BECAUSE RELIGION
MONTH BUT HE
ZERO BUT IT
HAMMER AND COCK
BLEEDOVER SO SHE'D
CUTOUTS AND FRILLS
HERE AND THERE'S
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craycraytime · 1 year ago
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The Dismantling of Rev. Moon's Empire in the US
With the news about the sale of UTS Barrytown, the Boston Church, and Morning Garden, and the possible sale of 43rd St. and the New Yorker Hotel, the powers that be are dismantling the physical assets of Rev. Moon's empire.
With the rewriting of the theological dogmas: Rev. Moon failed two of his primary missions, everything after the Principle of Creation must be extirpated from the the Divine Principle, and Mrs. Moon being the OBDOG and Jesus being the OBSOG (Which is true), and Rev. Moon being just a leader, the dismantling of the theological dogmas of Rev. Moon's religion.
With the picking and choosing of "church coaches", all graduates of another cults' ideology, that cult being the Landmark Forum (highly accepted by the homosexual community), almost the entire leadership is run by an outside ideology and leaders are chosen based on whether they graduated from the Landmark Forum's training.
As we can see the UC/FFWPU is not what it once was. People who are against these changes need to communicate and work together. We have been a community for decades. We love and respect one another. Let's do something about the false teachings and the corruption within the church!
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tetelbierg · 2 years ago
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Brief account of my experiences in the Unification Church - now Family Federation -etc.
Unification Church members gathering at Tarrytown upstate New York in early 1975. Adapted from a story originally written for the Facebook group Unification Church under the Microscope (*) I’m from Luxembourg but I met and joined the Unification Church in the United States – twice, in 1975. The first time was during its teaching workshops in Barrytown (on the Hudson River in upstate New York,…
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