#Arya is riverlands and bravoos

[nymerias-heart]

A Dream of Spring Headcanon

You have a wildness in you, Rickon. 'The wolf blood,' grandfather used to call it. Aunt Lyanna had a touch of it, and Uncle Brandon more than a touch. It brought them both to an early grave. Father said I inherited it too and so have you.

"Let me tell you something about wolves, brother. When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives. Summer is the time for squabbles. In winter, we must protect one another, keep each other warm, share our strengths. So if you must hate, Rickon, hate those who would truly do us harm.

"First lesson," Arya said. "Stick them with the pointy end."

I would really love it if Arya used all the lessons she was taught in AGOT to help Rickon out in the future. I think he will have the hardest time fitting in with the family. They will all have changed but he was so young when they all saw him last and it’s been years since he saw them and he may not even remember them fully either.

[wordsdontmeanshit]

Gendrya as Marshall and Lily

Not sure if this fic idea has already been written, but they are literally them. 

Arya and Gendry meet Arya’s freshman year of college in Riverlands University when they live across the hall from each other. Arya goes to Gendry’s dorm to ask him to help her set up her stereo. Instant love connection and they are inseparable ever since. After graduating college, they move to Westeros’ capital, King’s Landing, where Gendry grew up.

Arya gets a job as a kindergarten teacher despite studying Water Dancing in school while Gendry pursues a career in Mechanical Engineering, hoping to go back to school for his masters in the field. The pair live together right after college. Gendry proposes quickly after that, leading the pair to re-christen every surface of the apartment.

While planning their wedding, Arya receives an offer to professionally Water Dance in Bravoos, her lifelong dream. At the same time, Gendry receives an amazing job offer from a prestigious company in Storm’s End, who offers to pay for his Masters education as well. Gendry tells Arya that he will give up his job and follow Arya to Bravoos, but Arya doesn’t want him to have to give up his dream job either. Arya decides to leave, only leaving a note as an explanation.

Arya thrives as a Water Dancer, however, she decides to leave after a year because she misses Gendry. She shows up at his apartment, hoping to pick up where they left off. But Gendry is furious and not willing to forgive Arya right away.

Arya finds an apartment in Storm’s End to show Gendry that she is serious about working toward their relationship. Gendry does everything to show Arya that he has moved on even going on dates with different woman, causing Arya to become incredibly jealous. Arya is too stubborn to leave, showing Gendry that she is serious about them being together.

Arya and Gendry eventually get married.

Another fun scene from HIMYM would be Gendry wanting children shortly after they are married, while Arya is unsure. Arya’s siblings visit her that weekend in Storm’s End and Arya gets drunk while they weigh the pros and cons of having a child. Arya sneaks out of the apartment because her drunk mind is telling her that Gendry should put a baby in her right away. Gendry is in an important meeting that he has to step away from to take care of his drunk wife. Gendry concludes that they might not be as ready for children as he thought as he takes care of drunk Arya. They decide to wait for a bit.

[thebluelemontree]

Hello! I'd like to ask what in your opinion will happen to Jeyne Poole Bolton. I read theories about her going with Ser Justyn and Tycho Nestoris to Bravoos and then asking of gift of mercy at The House of Black and White so Arya can use her face when returning to Westeros. I really hope that never happen, I don't want her to just give up and die. The monsters can't win. Maybe she can provide information about Boltons and Littlefinger and see northern justice being served to them.

It looks like a strong possibility that Jeyne Poole (and I really don’t like tacking Bolton on to her name, sorry) could end up going to Braavos and meet with Arya.  Jeyne has pertinent information to share with Arya about everything that happened to her since the purge of the Stark men in the Red Keep.  Like you said, most notably Jeyne knows that Littlefinger was the one who sold her the Bolton’s.  Encountering Jeyne, who is a tie to Arya Stark’s identity and past, could very well be the catalyst for Arya deciding to return to Westeros.  I suspect she’ll return by way of the Riverlands first as many other characters connected to Arya have already converged there.  I wrote about it in this post bout Brienne and how she is heavily tied to Arya and has been the entire time. There are many loose ends to tie up in the Riverlands, especially with Lady Stoneheart, the face of what ruthless, indiscriminate vengeance really looks like.  That really isn’t Arya.  So I personally feel Arya will play a role in putting what’s left to her mother to rest and ending the Frey/Lannister bloodbath after it spills out of control.  The tears will be pouring, but I think that resolution is most appropriate to Arya’s arc over just booking it to WF and to do what?  It’s Stannis that is currently poised to go up against Ramsay and retake Winterfell, which will probably happen before Arya leaves.  

That part about Jeyne offing herself so Arya can take her face?  Ew, wtf, gross!  Gross on so many levels!  Jeyne is as much a survivor as Sansa and Arya.  They are all bound by the same traumatic event that scattered them on different paths.  I mean, it is possible she may become suicidally depressed from all the trauma and the constant threat of being unmasked as an imposter.  She may feel hopeless and in despair if/when she reaches Braavos, but my gut feeling says she won’t die there and in that way.  Despite what we saw between them in AGOT, Arya and Jeyne used to play together when they were little too.  Jeyne’s childish bullying would never make Arya indifferent to Jeyne’s suffering, nor would she be okay with Jeyne taking her life, let alone cut her face off.  :P  I don’t think Arya truly buys into the philosophy of the House of Black and White.  For both girls meeting a person they knew before everything went to hell, someone who recognizes them for the person they truly are and can call them by their real name would be a profound moment for both of them.  I do agree that such an event could motivate Arya to abandon the HoBaW for good.  

I mean I’m all for theories, but one crucial thing people often neglect to think through when making them is “what purpose does this idea serve in furthering the story?  What are the implications and does it jive with everything we already know?”  Most of the time, they are constructed around what people think sounds cool.  Sure, we wanna see what Arya has learned from the FM put into action and we will.  But taking Jeyne’s face doesn’t make much sense to me.  The whole point of the Jeyne impersonating Arya subplot is that there are very few people left alive who actually know what the real Arya looks like.  What does Arya need Jeyne’s face for if it’s highly unlikely anyone will recognize her anyway?  I’m not sure what they think the useful application will be.  Just going back to WF with it and wearing it while she stabs Ramsey or something?  Does she need Jeyne’s face to do that or is just for poetic justice and flair?  As I said before, it looks like Stannis will have already dealt with the Bolton’s before Arya even leaves for Westeros.  Unless they can show it is necessary for plot purposes that Jeyne is sacrificed so Arya can move forward, I don’t see that happening.  I’m not saying that can’t happen, but I don’t see why it would need to happen for the story to work.  Arya can be plenty motivated to act and has other skills and options available to her without needing to take Jeyne’s face.  She could also steal another face from the HoBaW.    

If I had to guess at what would happen after a meeting between Jeyne and Arya, I would say that after Arya learns that Jeyne is still in danger of being exposed as a fake, she would try to help get her away from Justyn Massey.  Justyn is not a man to be trusted.  He’s ambitious, out for himself, and it is believed he’s seeking to wed a girl with a claim for a lordship (Val, Asha, and even “Arya” who Jon believed was the girl on the dying horse).  With Jon dead and “Arya” in his custody, just a guess, but he may seek to wed her under Stannis’s nose (especially if he thinks Stannis may perish in the battle); however, I believe Justyn would react really badly if he found out she is really Jeyne Poole.  I would love to see Arya and Jeyne absconding back to Westeros together.  I think that would be a nice touch to bring their relationship full circle in that way.  So after that, it’s anyone’s guess.  Jeyne has a lot to share with Sansa as well.  I’d really like to see the three of them reunited, the conflict of the past put to rest, and moving the plot forward together.                                                       

[nymerias-heart]

Firstly, the parallels between Arya/Lyanna are canon. They are not based on assumptions or theories of who Lyanna was. Ned tells Arya that she reminds him of Lyanna and that she looks like her. Harwin tells Arya she rides a horse as good as her aunt did. Bran sees a young Lyanna and immediately thinks it's Arya, the reason he concludes he isn't looking at Arya is because if the girl was Arya then the boy would have had to be him but he didn't wear his hair that long and Arya didn't beat him with swords the way this girl was beating the boy. So, Bran seen a young Lyanna and wasn't able to tell the difference between her and Arya. So, when speaking about looks, Arya IS Lyanna reborn. George wrote this. This is Canon. If George wanted sansa to have parallels with Lyanna then he would have written them. If he wanted Sansa to be Lyanna reborn, then he would have written it, he would have written characters comparing the two but he didn't. Sansa is compared to Catelyn not Lyanna. So it isn't that you can give Arya stans the parallels. The parallels ARE about Lyanna and Arya and no amount of twisting will make them about sansa. So, no, you can't give to us what already belonged to our fav.

"I was however trying to point out that you're not convincing anyone with your 'sansa has her own parallels with this raging lunatic who tried to kill her' routine" - - - - - I'm not trying to convince anyone. Sansa has parallels to Lysa. That is Canon. It's not me hating on sansa or making anything up. Her having parallels with lysa doesn't make sansa a 'raging lunatic'.

No one was comparing Sansa to Lysa, I was saying that sansa and lysa have parallels, not that they are the same person. But comparing their parallels to the parallels between Arya and Lyanna is the same. Why?. Because we are not changing who a character is to fit our parallels. It is the way the characters were written by George. Lysa and Sansa have parallels and that is not hate or saying that sansa will go crazy or shit. Or saying that Arya will marry a targaryen in secret and runaway to dorne. What we are doing is pointing out the similarities between characters but this does not mean they will have the Same fate or be the same person. What I think you meant is that we are comparing Arya to someone good while comparing Sansa to someone bad. But this isn't me making things up, it's the way George wrote the characters. And since when is Lyanna the most adored character?? Anyways, sansa can and does have parallels with other good characters but just not Lyanna. Or at the least not as many 'parallels' as stansas make their out to be. The ones you do have, just like in the op, are based on a Fanon Lyanna and not the one that is shown in the books.

Arya did flee from Kingslanding just like Lysa and Sansa did but in a much different way. Arya fled the red keep all on her own and no-one knew what happened to her. Then Yoren found her and cut off her hair and she left Kingslanding disguised as Arry the orphan boy. In comparison Lysa left with her son sweet Robin and obviously some small retinue. Though it's not mentioned in the books, she would have had to have been accompanied by someone because like HOW?? would she get to the Vale on her own. Sansa got notes from someone to meet her in the gods wood. Can't remember the name of the drunk Knight who helped her get out, but anyways someone helped her out of the castle and city and brought her to a ship where littlefinger was waiting for her, littlefinger who planned her escape. You could argue that syrio helped Arya escape but it's not the same because he wasn't there with her when she was escaping you could compare to the show when septa mordane tried to give sansa a head start. So Arya's escape was very much different. Not only was her escape different but also the place she escaped to. Arya went to the riverlands while Sansa and lysa went to the Vale.

It's not about who is superior to who. It's about who is who's foil. George said the initial reason for making sansa was because the starks were too good and he needed someone to cause strife within the family. Sansa was written as a foil to Arya. A foil doesn't mean being better, it means being there to draw an direct comparison to another character. From Aryas first chapter we can see that sansa is her foil.

Obviously, Arya wouldn't become the lady of the Vale, she has nothing to do with that plot line but sansa does. It's sansa who may or may not end up married to Harry the heir, not Arya. It's sansa who is in the Vale, not Arya. It's sansa who has parallels to Lysa, not Arya.

I agree that having parallels doesn't equal to having the same fate or becoming the same person. But don't twist Canon so you can make parallels where there aren't any, just like in the op with sansa/Lyanna. It's one thing to point out what is in the books and another to try and twist the books to suit your fanon.

I agree, any character can have parallels with another. But those sansa/Lyanna parallels weren't true to Lyannas character and were just something the op made up.

No one is going to be another character come again. But it is Canon that Young Lyanna and Arya look almost identical. So my point was if one of the two sisters was to be Lyanna reborn it physically could not be sansa. Once again obviously Arya is not Lyanna reborn she is so much more than Lyanna could ever be. Arya is a faceless assasin in Bravoos. That alone tells us that the two are not the same. But there are still many parallels between them. For example if you believe the jaqen=aegon theory then you have another parallel with a targaryen prince and a star girl in harrenhal.

I did not respond to the post because it said one character was another reborn. I responded to it because the 'parallels' they used were made up and were in no way true to who Lyanna was, a GNC woman. Guess what, GNC women can also be loved, turns out you do not have to be gentle and t

Courteous and ladylike for someone to see you as attractive.

It is Canon that lyanna/Arya have parallels. So when a stansa comes out and twists Lyannas entire character to fit the parallels, then that is stealing from Arya because it is arya who parallels with Lyanna not sansa. If you want to know, it is not the first thing that a stansa would have stolen from Aryas storyline. So yes it annoys us, because if you guys actually liked sansa why would you constantly steal storylines and aspects from other characters like Arya or Dany. The op who made that sansa/Lyanna post also made posts in which they plastered sansas face over Arya's and had Jon give her needle. Stansas do steal and it gets really annoying.

By the way I didn't say stansas were stealing Lyanna, I said they were stealing the parallels which you were. If the parallels were actually based on Canon, I wouldn't have said anything. But Lyannas entire character had to be twisted to fit those parallels.

The sansa is Lysa reborn was me using the op's logic to prove a point.

George wrote these books, he created these characters, he wrote the characters the way they are. The parallels between arya/Lyanna and sansa/Lysa were made by him.

[nymerias-heart]

I also think the final battle will happen in harrenhal. It makes the most sense. If the battle were to happen and end in the North, then people would call it 'the north's problem', when it's supposed to be the living vs. the dead. So It kind of has to be Brought into the south, so then it would nó longer just be a story or some tale to the southerners, it would be a problem they will ALL have to face. I also don't see how Daenerys could possibly get any of her armies North without them all dying. The North will be hit the hardest by the weather and attacks from the others. I fully expect it to happen in the south. So we will see some northern evacuation happening. Also, having the war in the south is just a lot more convenient for George. He doesn't actually have to give any pages over to the armies travelling North whether it's Daenerys, aegon, riverlords, Knights of the Vale, the lannister armies or even the dornish and tyrells. Its not like any of them would survive in the North anyways, seeing as how its going for Stannis. I'm 98% sure the war will happen(end) in the riverlands. I also think a lot of the armies mentioned above would already at some point be in riverlands/crownlands region. A trip from there to harrenhal wouldn't take them months and wouldn't kill off half their armies as it would if they tried to go north.

Catelyn being brought back from the dead has to have happened for a reason. She needs to have some form of impact on the story. And I don't think killing Freys and getting revenge for them will be the reason. So I'm really curious to see what exactly she'll do/cause to happen. Do you think she'll live long enough not only to see Arya again but also an evacuated bran and Rickon. And sansa from the vale. Ooh how would undead cat react to undead Jon and vice versa👀👀👀. Imagine the stark kids having to see what their mom has become 😬😬😬. How do you think they would react to that? Aryas the only one who has any inkling that catelyn could be alive, but even she has no idea.

The idea of a large part of the riverlands being converted to the Lord of light, really appeals to me because I want to see how melisandre will react to it. Also, how she'll react to Thoros, a drunk old priest, being able to bring a person a person back from the dead several times. Another reason I like it, is because when the war does happen we will see a mix of religions: Lord of light, the seven, the old gods, the drowned God, the horse God?? (what's the name of the one the dothraki believe in?) and other smaller groups of people who worship different gods. I want to see how they would all act around each other, I'm assuming there would at least be small fights constantly breaking out. And I want to see how the high septons will all react to it. I'd want to see what George would write Arya doing in this situation, seeing as she's been the character most exposed to the many different religions of asoiaf. The old gods from her father, the seven from her mother, the Lord of light from Thoros and the brother Hood and most importantly the many faced god (which is basically every single religion/God/deity).

Yeah, I agree, arya isn't going to spend another book in Bravoos, there would be no point to it. I'm betting she'll have about 3 more chapter there maybe. She has too much unresolved plot in westeros. Do you think she would come back not only with Justin Massey and the sell swords but also the wildlings which were taken as slaves before landing in Bravoos?

I have no idea how Arya and Jeyne would react to seeing each other again. It's 100% not going to be them crying as they happily reunite. Jeyne and sansa (but primarily jeyne) bullied arya. And no I'm not saying jeyne deserved any of the stuff that happened to her but that happening doesn't change how she treated Arya and the relationship(I wouldn't call it a relationship but don't have any other word for it) they have as of now. Jeyne isn't a good memory for Arya. This is another thing I really want to see. Like, how is George going to write it? How will he have them react to each other? Will we see jeyne blaming Arya for what happened to her? (seeing as it was Arya she was forced to pretend to be) will we see them growing closer? (for them to grow closer jeyne 1000% needs to apologise to Arya, even if they were children, as we see from Aryas own pov she hasn't forgotten any of it and it has affected her). I once seen a post about Arya killing jeyne and taking her face and that is like one of 10 things I'm positive would not ever happen. Even if jeyne treated Arya horribly, she does not deserve to die.

Three people have/will be resurrected in the books and I just realised all three had a connection to arya.

Obviously Lord Beric has died and been resurrected a couple of times but the reason he gets killed by Sandor is because of Arya's accusations against him about Mycah, the reason why Beric fought Sandor. As we know Beric gets killed and is resurrected by Thoros. You could say Arya played a part in his death(5th/6th death).

Then we have Catelyn, who was killed at the red wedding. She didn't die because of anything Arya did but the only reason she ever got resurrected was because, Arya while warging in Nymeria, pulled her out of the river and left just before the brotherhood arrived. Beric then proceeded to give Catelyn the kiss of life. If not for Arya, I don't think Catelyn would have ever been resurrected.

Then we have Jon, who was killed because he decided to fight Ramsey, after receiving the letter from him. The part of the letter that stuck out the most to him was 'I want my bride back' as Jon repeats it another 3 times and 'stick them with the pointy end' is his last dieing thought (the last thing he said was ghost, the last thing he thought about was Arya and the last thing he felt was the cold).

I don't really have a point to make, other than that it's really interesting how there have been/will be 3 ressurections (counting Beric as one) in the series and Arya is connected to all 3. Playing either a part in the person's death or in their ressurection.

Do you think George wrote it this way on purpose? Will it mean anything in the future books?

[nymerias-heart]

I seen this theory once, where sansa crowned Arya. Basically, in the books the snow melting in robbs hair is mentioned A LOT. And the theory said the snow could be foreshadowing a crown, but the snow in robbs hair was melting, signifying him quickly losing the crown. Then we see Jon describing alys(a girl he thought was Arya) on her wedding day, he said the snow in her hair looked like a crown, I think. So once again snow in hair=crown. Then we have a memory where sansa rubbed snow into Arya's hair and another one where arya kept trying to make a snow ball but the snow was melting away, so she kept on having to reform it. This could be foreshadowing of sansa crowning, or playing a part in Arya becoming queen. And Arya trying to rule and keep things stable while things keep falling apart(the threat of the others, the cold, the lack of food, the lannister army, the Freys, maybe, etc. All problems she would have to face) . Do you think sansa could have anything to do with Arya becoming queen? There is zero chance of sansa going north, so maybe the battle the knights of the Vale help win is one in the riverlands and this time its her helping Arya.

So many people ignore Arya's training and just classify it as 'spy stuff' because it kills them to admit Arya has politics in her storyline and will have more of it in future books or just have any skill that could be useful for things that aren't fighting or anything that's not 'physical' 🙄😑😑.

I could definitely see Arya as a mistress of whispers for Bran. People like to say she will go west and travel🙄🙄 or be a knight, regardless of the fact she has never once in her life expressed any desire to be a knight🤬😤. She asked Ned if she could build castles, be a KING'S COUNCILLOR or become a High Septon. But noooo, she wants to be a knight and and go west to commit suicide. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️.

If Arya does take the wildlings from Bravoos with her they could very well teach her skinchanging. Arya is already very powerful being able to skin change from a continent away, and do it with out even realising what she is doing. She has skin changed nymeria and a cat so far. So we definitely will be seeing her skinchanging more animals in winds.

I'm betting the faceless men do have another motive to be helping Arya. The whole situation is just way too sketchy for it just being so she can become a faceless men. The majority of her training doesn't even focus on killing people, but on honing skills she could use out in the world. Did you see the theory were Arya could hear the dead? I like that one and it actually makes sense. Just like this post was originally about Arya being the connection to the only 3 ressurections in the books, it would once again connect Arya with the theme of death (and in a way that isn't just her being a psychopath who kills people😑). I'll try find a link if you didn't see it. But in it, the reason why the faceless men were so interested in Arya was because she was a 'chosen one' kind of figure. Each god/religion has their champion like the Lord of light has Azor Ahai. If the other religions have one, then what's stopping the faceless men?

Yeah, I agree lady stoneheart does seem to be more of a catalyst. Even before her death Catelyn was one too. Like the war would have probably happened anyways but the reason Tywin started attacking and burning the riverlands was because Catelyn kidnapped tyrion and tried to have him executed. Earning her a role in the beginning of the war. I do think the Lord of light / Beric bringing her back had to have happened for a big/important reason.

Three people have/will be resurrected in the books and I just realised all three had a connection to arya.

Obviously Lord Beric has died and been resurrected a couple of times but the reason he gets killed by Sandor is because of Arya's accusations against him about Mycah, the reason why Beric fought Sandor. As we know Beric gets killed and is resurrected by Thoros. You could say Arya played a part in his death(5th/6th death).

Then we have Catelyn, who was killed at the red wedding. She didn't die because of anything Arya did but the only reason she ever got resurrected was because, Arya while warging in Nymeria, pulled her out of the river and left just before the brotherhood arrived. Beric then proceeded to give Catelyn the kiss of life. If not for Arya, I don't think Catelyn would have ever been resurrected.

Then we have Jon, who was killed because he decided to fight Ramsey, after receiving the letter from him. The part of the letter that stuck out the most to him was 'I want my bride back' as Jon repeats it another 3 times and 'stick them with the pointy end' is his last dieing thought (the last thing he said was ghost, the last thing he thought about was Arya and the last thing he felt was the cold).

I don't really have a point to make, other than that it's really interesting how there have been/will be 3 ressurections (counting Beric as one) in the series and Arya is connected to all 3. Playing either a part in the person's death or in their ressurection.

Do you think George wrote it this way on purpose? Will it mean anything in the future books?