#Anti Anti NaruHina

[naruhinalife555]

No Naruhina is not from one side and go to fucking hell good? even Kishimoto said that Hinata was Naruto's love interest

To no one of care that you struggle to see the hype NaruHina is real couple with Development remember that Kishimoto drow this it part of NaruHina's love story that come out in2002

Lol shut up mostly from the people don't love it because this ship comforts!! Kishimoto make NaruHina from the beginning!! Not only Hinata think about Naruto

nothing was from thinking that somewhere a kind and beautiful waifu noticed them and loves them without them having to do anything!! Naruto also noticed to Hinata in anime and in manga so you are really wrong stop talking bullshit

Fuck of* haters go to worth manga from your self before you even negative NaruHina Hinata she is the only option of Naruto all that you are saying this is nonsense and more from that I think that you even not know what this love!! Because Naruto and Hinata both are was side of each other in both parts!!

people really stupid! NaruHina she is the ship that got a lot of art of Kishimoto and you said that all not was real??

Nothing in the manga provided that the feelings was from one side!!

I really sorry get a life

[narhinafan]

If antis are insisting that NaruHina failed due to Naruto not responding to Hinata's confession during the Pain Arc must put themselves in his position so they can understand the situation. Imagine, a 16 year old kid, who grew up alone and emotionally stunted, pinned down by a formidable foe who killed three of his mentor figures, one of which he saw first hand and was powerless to stop it. Then, a girl who he thought was weird at first, came to his aid in an attempt to fight the same foe, confessed her feelings to him. While he heard that, his mind can't process things properly plus it is also the first time that someone did that to him. Then he saw that same girl stabbed in front of him and being taunted by the same foe then all hell breaks loose.

Expecting Naruto to respond to a confession in a highly charged situation is bollocks plus insinuating his failure to do so as a sign that he didn't respond to it is another kind of bollocks.

Honestly, it's 2024 already and anti NaruHina are still at it. Why can't they just let it die as the series is already finished and NaruHina is canon, much like how Kishi planned it in the pre-series.

I know what you mean, but its not even that in Japanese's they like and love are expressed with the same word so its not as clear cut as it is for other languages.

Add that as you said a 16 emotionally stunned gets confessed and shown real love for the first time only to almost get killed and then go berserk. Then the fact going nine tails affects his memory so likely what he remembers when Hinata stepped is likely fuzzy as well.

I get yeah I blame BoruSara giving all the NaruSaku stains a second wind and hence sticking around in the fandom.

[kathrahender]

Please can the male character of a fantasy show/shonen anime not end with a female character for once? Stop with the heteronormativity dear God.

Give the main male character more female friends instead of giving him female love interests. Male characters deserve to have female friends. They don't have to be always romantically involved! I'm tired of people always wanting to ship a girl and a boy without any other option. They could be just friends! (and this feels very close to me because I had a best male friend in high school and people ALWAYS saw us as lovers and it WASN'T true at all! It was so irritating I swear. "You look good together" "You are a good couple" "Are you two together?" Why can't you leave us alone??? He was just my friend). Because YES, a girl and a boy can be friends without feeling romantic love for each other.

Annabeth could have been Percy Jackson's first female friend and she could have been the first girl who cared about him, just like a "female version of Grover" and just a friend- but no, they had to end up together because God forbid a main male character not being the boyfriend of a girl (and the same happens with Hiccstrid, Jlaire and Anidala, they could also just have been friends)

Naruto and Hinata could have been besties instead of lovers but no- they had to make Hinata a girl whose life was only centered in "How do I make Naruto-kun love me?" (and the same happened to Iris West. She could have been more important to the plot and Barry's best female friend- but instead she was just his love interests and her development was null. And the same happened with Allura. At first she was a good character, but then she was only there to be Lance love interest, what he should have been overcome. And btw Allura's romantic love towards Lance felt very rushed. As well as Hinny was so bad developed in the movies and Ginny's development didn't exist).

Seriously people stop with these things. Stop reducing a female character to a love interest. Don't make the main male character end up with a female character because that "it's better for the plot" "it's better for the world" "people won't accept the male character dating another male character" "people won't accept the male character not dating anyone". Not everything has to be a straight couple. Actually, not everything has to be a couple! All relationships in the book/show/movie/anime could be platonic and it wouldn't be a big deal! (Although personally I like romance, but aroace people also exist and they deserve to be represented in media).

[lavender-phoenix-flames]

"Sasuke and naruto are just friends"

The just friends in question:

Naruto:

Sasuke:

[ironjeonss]

Hi, sasunaru shipper! You got new friend😂

[theflorasdiary]

Do you know who hate women more than men?

Women that ship a (non canon)gay couple and there’s also a girl in the picture(the canon girlfriend/wife/love interest of one of the male characters).

[narutouzumakiarchive]

How to deal with the homophobic and horrible ss, nh, sh etc. stans? Just reading their content makes me feel gaslighted and makes me want to quit my little sns blog, because I feel isolated.

First of all, I'm sorry you feel that way. The best thing to do is honestly to just ignore them. The canon ships, in particular, are horrid and are consequently routinely subjected to lots of criticism by people outside of the carefully constructed echo chambers of canon shippers. SS/NH fans cope with this by harassing SNS shippers who have been a particular source of insecurity for the entire run of the show. There's a reason why they routinely steal from the sns dynamic to prop up their ship and have to rely on fillers and novels and databooks, etc. instead of working with the manga.

This brings me to my next point. Part of the reason they are so emboldened is because the "victors" are the ones who write the story, and they've used this to control the narrative and recontextualize what actually happened during the original run of the story. So, something you should know is that SNS fans have always been right about the core of the manga.

While there were obviously endgame SS/NH believers, the idea that Sasuke/Sakura and Naruto/Hinata were mutually in love was not a unifying factor in those fandoms.

In the Naruto Collector Book 3, there was an interview in which Kishimoto himself acknowledged the fact that Sakura and Hinata's feelings of love were unrequited. This interview is practically lost media, and is conveniently never discussed but the book is still available. The collector series has other interviews with Kishimoto as well.

But the main point is that this interview was released in 2007, long after we were already into Part 2 of the manga. This firstly debunks the idea that there was a secret budding love story that was sabotaged by SP, though you don't need any interview to tell you that Sasuke literally only thinking of Team 7 during Sakura's love confession, or Naruto not reflecting on any special moments with Hinata was proof enough of the lack of romance. More importantly, however, this is connected to my point about belief in "true love all along" was not a unifying factor in the SS/NH fandoms. Many of them were aware of this interview (see the respective examples of a SS fan and a NH fan reacting to it below) and thus spent their time taking solace in databooks and writing longwinded posts about how mutual romantic development weren't required for endgame.

What DID unite solo/multshipping SS in particular was the belief that Sasuke considered Sakura special, and thus, she would be the one who helped heal his heart. And this belief is where the real "war" between SS/SNS lied. If you look at old SNS posts, you'll see that there was never a unifying belief that SNS would be canon either, for obvious reasons. You'll notice that many posts were prefaced with some variation of "regardless of the nature of their bond...." because it wasn't so much what they were to each other rather than how significant they were to each other. You'll see a lot of posts about them transcending traditional relationship categories.

So this was the primary context in which SS and SNS fans argued. You can see below just some of the drivel that SS came up with. They have always been relentlessly insecure harassers who used to attack SNS fans for simply seeing the direction in which the manga would go.

They ignored Naruto making Sasuke's heart beat repeatedly, they ignored Naruto being tied to Sasuke's sharingan transformation — which later in the manga was explicitly called out for being the reflection of the heart that SNS fans postulated it was. They ignored the fact that Sakura was rendered fungible [a fact you can see reflected in the interview below when Kishimoto discusses what makes Team 7 special and completely evades mention of Sakura] and that Kishi usurped moments that could have been special for Sasuke and Sakura by including Naruto (eg. Sasuke bringing up not wanting Naruto to worry in the FOD, Sasuke thinking about Naruto to keep the curse mark at bay as well despite the fact that Sakura was the one who was explicitly worried about him, Sasuke including Naruto and talking about precious nakama in the fight against Gaara despite the fact that Sakura was the only one in mortal danger, etc.). They ignored the fact that Sasuke quite literally hierarchially ranked Naruto as a more intimate friend than Sakura. Harassed SNS fans for pointing out the basic setup in the manga that served to reinforce SNS fans' interpretations because they constructed a version of the manga that was wholly centered on the special and unique "bond" between Sakura/Sasuke.

All this lasted to the war arc. They twisted themselves in pretzels to argue about how Sasuke leaving Sakura to burn in lava and outright stating that her and Kakashi's lives didn't matter was him repressing his super secret feelings of care for her while attempting to downplay the mutual affection displayed in the SNS bond. Even the more "neutral" pro team 7 SS fans looked for ways to subtly denigrate SNS' bond. Sasuke makes no mentions of Sakura when the 10 tails is about to blow up the shinobi alliance? Who cares because at least Sakura's face doesn't have a cut across it (yes, they really did misinterpret pro SNS moments where Sasuke individuated Naruto as negative). And they did all this while making anti Sasunaru clubs and hiding in forums to complain about how SNS was getting too much focus in the manga (something older fans can attest to) because deep down many of them saw the writing on the wall.

Now SNS fans, on the other hand, displayed the critical reading skills that the SS fandom lacked — and I don't mean that facetiously. They picked up on the fact that it was significant that Sasuke lost control of himself when Naruto showed up. They understood the significance of Sasuke specifically asking about the status of the 9 tails given the prior context of Sasuke specifically needing to kill Naruto because he wanted to become stronger. They recognized that Naruto was specifically singled out with a cut precisely because he was special by picking up on the patterns peppered throughout the text. They also respected the Team 7 bonds established in Part 1 — they had no need to undermine it because there was a confidence in Naruto/Sasuke's relationship being special — while understanding the disadvantage in the fact that Sasuke and Sakura dynamic always included a "we" (see example from a 2008 analysis below). They knew there would be a reconciliation in which the tension between duty and desire would be resolved and would lead to Sasuke accepting his heart/inner child which would lead him to Naruto.

And lo and behold, 698 came and SNS fans were validated while SS fans were livid and angry. They complained and harassed SNS blogs and threw tantrums and cried about the manga being retconned. It's so easy for them to pretend they knew everything in hindsight, but the receipts don't lie. There has never been anyone more in denial about the core facts of the manga than SS/NH fans. Don't let them prevent you from supporting SNS. The SNS bond was validated.

Even to this day, they have never gotten over the fact that Sasuke confirmed their worst nightmares which is why they have to cope by literally cropping Naruto out of panels (Look at the 97 likes — and this is tame for them), spreading poor translations, and taking glee in the idea of Kishimoto not being the arbiter of canonicity, so they can take refuge in material not written by him, because they hate what he did write.

As I type this, they are getting made fun of in different languages and SS fans are coping by pretending that anyone who points out the dysfunction of their implied no kiss couple has has no literacy and is ignoring 700 chapters of development, the development in question being Sakura still acting infantile while Sasuke remains indifferent.

Why should you feel isolated because you want to support the main bond when SS fans even have to lie about the poorly written filler novels that were expressly created FOR them (eg. Sakura forcefully kissing Sasuke and then Sasuke immediately grabbing Naruto and leaving Sakura to fall off the motorcycle they were all riding on; A scene SS fans repeatedly lied about and repeatedly misrepresented).

Unfortunately I've nearly run out of images and I didn't even get to finish highlighting all of the lies of SS or discuss NH fans the way I wanted too but please, don't worry about the hate and the homophobia. A significant part of it is them lashing out because of insecurity.

Then and now, nothing has changed.

They hated the fact that Kishimoto wasn't concerned with Hinata's unrequited feelings and patiently waited for Sasuke to fade into oblivion so Naruto and Hinata could ride off into the sunset. When that didn't come, and Naruto prioritized Sasuke even after Hinata's confession, they took to harassing SNS fans. All they have is a retcon movie that Kishimoto wasn't even devoted to, which is why, in addition to lionizing scenes from the film, they even have to read panels incorrectly to achieve some satisfaction.

SNS is amazing and enough to keep me occupied, but another way of dealing with the hatred and homophobia (which is the main point of this post) is remembering why it's so rampant in the first place. The reason you feel gaslighted is because they are literally trying to rewrite history (these people have even lied about how much their novel sold and had to be corrected by a sale tracking account).

I haven't even scratched the surface, but you can see a few more examples here, here, here, and here. Giving in to their bullying is how the liars win. Don't let them!

[thesauce8]

another reason the canon pairings arent believable is that it is way too difficult for me to believe that naruto loves his wife more than sasuke

like just judging by the canon interactions, a bond that should be very obvious to me simply isnt

you cant just say “oh yeah he loves hinata more than anyone because she is the love of his life” but have him promise to die by sasukes side and say shit like “when you hurt, I hurt”

its plain laziness

[moon-trees]

If Naruto and Sasuke had to choose between each other and their wives, they would definitely choose each other.

[naruhinalife555]

Naruto was alywas alone to Naruto not was friends all the people ignored from him he was a lonely so why Naruto bad???

Hinata encouraged Naruto in the war, causing him not to give up on looking closer than ever

The fact that Hinata see the only the good in Naruto not making NaruHina so stale NaruHina is the best Hinata was alywas nice to Naruto even if was a loser

This not broder to her was closer to him she is want connected to Naruto that he not feeling alone

Hinata believe in him and knows that he can change his life he actually wants that she is be in his around

This want that makes him develop feelings for her

He understand that Hinata important to him in both the part of manga Naruto see her the only person who stand side him

[narhinafan]

Since my return to the Naruto fandom over a year ago one thing I have noticed that is a common thing about anti's excuse my language is their media literacy is shit. Not to mention how little they understand Naruto's character in general because one common argument I've heard against NaruHina is.

"Naruto didn't love Hinata until the last and he fell in love with her through a genjutsu"

That's false because of anyone paid attention to the movie it was heavily implied without any dialogue that Hinata and Naruto were more than friends but not yet lovers especially if you paid attention to the scenes where it showed Naruto's loneliness and Hinata's.

"Naruto didn't answer Hinata's confession"

Another dumb argument considering the fact Naruto someone who was emotionally abused did not grow up with any parents no siblings he didn't understand the difference between romantic love or the love of siblings. The very fact that people haven't been able to understand that astounds me Sasuke may have lost his family when he was a child but he actually understood what love truly was unlike Naruto.

I would say more but I'm not going to turn this into an essay I think Naruto the character is one of the most misunderstood characters by the fandom and it annoys the hell out of me.

I know sadly antis have gotten worse since it ended and NaruHina became canon sinking their ship.

Yeah the manga made it obvious NaruHina was end game there were a ton of subtle hints as well since early on in the series. The way they interacted with each other was just different. Then you have how perfect a match they are both underdogs and knowing loneliness as well as perfectly compensating for each others faults and being starved for love yet both being able fulfil that for the others.

True antis just don't bother understanding Naruto's character they don't care about him at all.

[lavender-phoenix-flames]

I don't care what you think but Sasuke and Naruto should have eloped and traveled the world together.

[snserendipity]

HELP IM PISSING MYSELF

[theflorasdiary]

Being called homophobic from shippers of non canon mlm couples,meanwhile they fetishized gay people and sees them as objects of their own fantasies and not real people.Treating women as baby machines,forcing sexuality on people and stripping down their traits to adjust them to their ship.

And then they go:“But the author and the character never said they were straight!😡”

The same character that only had girlfriends/have a wife and kids/has only been interested and sexually attracted to women.

[stardewpoesie]

I just want to say; sasuke being gay isn't a "headcanon" for me. It's pretty much canon. Naruto being gay is canon to me too, but I respect people who also see him as bisexual. There's honestly not much room for denying their queer coding and the queer portrayal of Naruto as a story.

And, Sakura's character is used in the story as a device to turn down heteronormativity. The way she comments on events, and the way her feelings canonically dont reach/touch Sasuke nor compare to Naruto's is proof of it.

[usuratongaychi]

“sasunaru is incest”

there is actually 2 reasons incest is not good evolutionarily speaking:

a. genetic defects arise bc the child gets multiple copies of already present defective genes, thats why incest results in club foot and genetic disorders or worse defects that dramatically survival/quality of life. humans are trained to not engage in this for survival of the species. thats why if you have siblings, you probably dont like their scent.

b. psychologically it destroys and distorts the family bond. evolutionarily the family bond is inportant bc those ppl are supposed to protect you. modt cases of incest are usually an abuse of power or just straight up rape, so its never really consensual anyways.

naruto and sasuke dont meet these criteria, their genetic relationship is incredibly distant and they were not raised together to believe they are family

neither circumstances are met

the term brother is used to mean close friend, also in gay relationships , “brother” was kinda used as a code word to mean close male relationships. “brother” doesnt mean “i literally think im related to you” it just means closer than a friend…

“but they are reincarnates” if being reincarnated makes them incest, then ppl who genuinely believe in reincarnation should never date anyone bc they could be dating a reincarnated family member

you dont have to like the ship but making up that a gay relationship is perverted and incest just because you dont like it is homophobic as hell and rooted in the idea that gay people are deviants <3