#Adam and lute die at about the same age

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Adam and lute are so besties 2 me here’s my lore for them in my redesigns

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au where vaggie has another little secret she didn't even know was a secret still (spoiler it's Mortality) (spoiler charlie Isn't Happy) and when she sits down with charlie for a hotel talk it goees like (TRAUMATIC EMOTIONAL SPEED RUN AAAAHAHAHA)

Vaggie: "Alright sweetie, the hotel's going good so far, one soul redeemed, minimal fire damage this week, so we should probably start planning for the next hundred years of operations."

Charlie: "YAY!!! Planning planning planning~ What's first on the list??"

Vaggie: "Start looking for a replacement manager."

Charlie: "You don't wanna keep being manager? OH- we can be CO-FOUNDERS together! WE COULD HAVE A PARTY FOR IT! And plan for the next one too- Charlie and Vaggie's centennial wow the hotel is still here celebration...!"

Vaggie: "That's sweet, but I'll be dead by then either way, so we still need to deal with the staffing shortage before then."

Charlie: "....dead... tired?"

Vaggie: "Dead as in dead. Doornail style."

Charlie: "What?"

Vaggie: "Expired. Shit, when did we last check the hotel fridge..."

Charlie: "Vaggie wait, I'm, I'm not hearing you right, what are you saying?"

Vaggie: "Heaven born don't live forever? Especially not down in hell, turns out."

Charlie: "I don't understand."

Vaggie: (chuckles) "Sweetie, thanks for ignoring my eyebags and zombie groans while getting out of bed in the morning- but my wings are already GREY, for fuck's sake."

Charlie: "Yes they're, grey. Beautiful and- aren't they supposed to be-?"

Vaggie: "And I'm pretty sure it's not just from the stress of running a business for a few months. Being hotel manager isn't that hard."

Vaggie: "....Mostly. Compared to, some things...." (sigh)

Vaggie: "Think anyone would believe that if we put it in the want ad?"

Charlie: "But-"

Vaggie: "No buts. We really need to get a head start on this."

Charlie: "....but you're a winner."

Vaggie: (SNORTS) "In my dating life, yeah. Anyway-"

Charlie: "But none of the other exorcists' wings are grey! So, so THEY aren't aging- so YOU aren't aging!!"

Vaggie: "They've got halos to protect them from the whole physically getting old thing-"

Charlie: "Halos???"

Vaggie: "-so we- they- can keep fit and ready for fighting our- THEIR whole lives, but duh we don't live forever. Lute and Adam left me here to die, not chill for all eternity."

Charlie: "Wh.. but-"

Vaggie: "Can you imagine how much heaven would've freaked if one of their actually immortal souls had gotten killed down here in hell...? But it was just one of us Adam's girls, and it was up to him to deal with it. With more murder. Bastard."

Charlie: "...."

Vaggie: "Uh.... Charlie?"

Charlie: "....your mortal?"

Vaggie: "I'm, yeah.... wait, Charlie..."

Vaggie: "...people know that about exorcists, right? You didn't... think heaven would risk putting winners in their rank and file army and send them down to hell?"

Charlie: "I thought you were a sinner."

Vaggie: "Hostia- right. I keep forgetting, they don't get old do they?"

Charlie: "Sinners don't. They get killed but they don't just. Die."

Vaggie: "I'm sorry. I thought- I really should've told you-"

Charlie: "Angels aren't supposed to die either."

Vaggie: "We did a good job proving that wrong. Exhibit A, Adam's corpse."

Charlie: "He was KILLED- it's not the same!"

Vaggie: "And angels aren't the same either. There's a lot of different kinds in creation- most of us aren't in the higher orders, there's waaaay more exorcists than seraphim."

Charlie: "But heaven is still supposed to be HEAVEN! People don't DIE in heaven! That wouldn't be Heaven! How could- how could it ever be HAPPY up there if, if- if people still left!?"

Vaggie: "Oh, sweetie... the only people who've earned a heaven like that are the winners. The rest of us are just-"

Charlie: "Just what? JUST, WHAT???"

Vaggie: "We're there to make heaven a good place for them. Keep it running smooth and safe. Mostly it's the higher ups who deal with winners personally, the rest of us stay back and stick to our jobs, try to keep some distance so no one... gets too attached... shit that sounded a lot less fucked up before I said it out loud-"

Vaggie: "Look- it's like that with hellborn too isn't it? The imps and hellhounds and-"

Charlie: "NO! YES? But this is HELL! Of course it hurts and isn't fair! You're not FROM hell it's not supposed to BE like that for you!"

Vaggie: "Or for my girlfriend."

Charlie: "I'm not the one who's dying!"

Vaggie: "You're kinda freaking-"

Charlie: "IM NOT FREAKING OUT!!"

Vaggie: "Right. I meant, you should've had more warning. I'm sorry I didn't say... I wasn't thinking that far ahead."

Charlie: "WELL I WAS! And I'm not- we're not losing that."

Vaggie: "Charlie-"

Charlie: "We're getting you your halo back."

Vaggie: "Pretty sure it's already been recycled-"

Charlie: "THEN WE'RE FINDING ONE FROM ONE OF THE DEAD EXORCISTS and you are WEARING IT until we FIX THIS."

Vaggie: "Sweetie- heaven collected all the halos from our battle-"

Charlie: "They didn't pick up all the spears and stuff, maybe they also missed-"

Vaggie: "No they wouldn't have. Halos aren't, they're not like the weapons. Heaven doesn't care if sinners kill each other with some left behind divine steel, but a halo? They store and conduct heavenly power or whatever. No one's gonna leave one of them lying around."

Charlie: "Fine. FINE- let me think-"

Vaggie: "Can we think less and focus more on you not shaking like a damn leaf first? C'mon, sit down-"

Charlie: "-the angel Carmilla killed. We'll use that one."

Vaggie: "We could use a deep breath right now."

Charlie: "It's head was missing when heaven picked up the body."

Vaggie: "Yeah? An Overlord probably has it hanging on their wall, big whoop, Charlie please slow down-"

Charlie: "If it's head was left behind then maybe it's halo was too! If we find the Overlord-"

Vaggie: "No. No more deals with Overlords."

Charlie: "I'll make as many damn deals with them as I want!"

Vaggie: "But not for ME, alright! If it's about me then you don't get to sell your fucking soul! Or bind it or whatever! You can't make me be the reason for that!"

Charlie: "Vaggie- we NEED that halo."

Vaggie: "No we don't. I don't."

Charlie: "You're dying without it!"

Vaggie: "I KNOW I am. But that's just, life!"

Charlie: "LIFE? Dying so soon isn't-!"

Vaggie: "Charlie, you're half seraphim. You mom was the original demon, your view on life expectancies is kinda skewed."

Charlie: "You said the halos let you live longer!"

Vaggie: "I said they keep us young. It's not the same thing."

Charlie: "It's still SOMETHING!"

Vaggie: "We don't even know that would help at this point, I've been in hell for years-"

Charlie: "Oh so we shouldn't even try!? Just, sit back and go 'well we haven't don't anything to stop this but I guess it was just completely unavoidable'-"

Vaggie: "It probably WON'T help. No, listen- It worked up in heaven and for short runs down here- that doesn't mean it'd have any power to draw on in hell. It's probably just a fancy looking hoop down here."

Charlie: "Then we'll get you back to heaven until we can make it work."

Vaggie: "I'm not going back to fucking heaven!"

Charlie: "AND I'M NOT LETTING YOU STAY HERE AND DIE!"

Vaggie: "You can't kick me out- this is OUR hotel, not just yours."

Charlie: "YOU- you-"

Vaggie: "We need. To calm down."

Charlie: "CALM DOWN! Every second you spend down here your body is-"

Vaggie: "Not dying anytime soon, okay? I'm fine. This whole talk has gone way too far way, way to fast. That's my fault for not thinking about all this sooner, but. Just. Take a breath. Let's just take a breath, take a break, and come back to this when we're both had a moment."

Charlie: "....."

Charlie: "Did you plan all this."

Vaggie: "What?"

Charlie: "Owning the hotel together. Making sure you couldn't be forced out of hell."

Vaggie: "That's not why we started the hotel-"

Charlie: "No, that's not what I was thinking when we started it. But were you?"

Vaggie: "Charlie... you're connecting dots that aren't there..."

Charlie: "You're here. You're here and dying and don't want to leave."

Vaggie: "I'd be dying up in heaven too."

Charlie: "But your wings wouldn't already be GREY, would they?"

Vaggie: "They'd still be an exorcist's wings, if I'd never left-"

Charlie: "Well they're not anymore and going back wouldn't change that. All it would do is help you stay alive."

Vaggie: "I don't want that life."

Charlie: "It's that or die."

Vaggie: "You're being dramatic-"

Charlie: "You've always said you liked that about me. Was that a lie too?"

Vaggie: "No."

Charlie: "Do you want to die, Vaggie?"

Vaggie: "Of course I don't- I could've just let Lute-"

Charlie: "Die, not be killed. Does it make you feel better about all the people you've killed? You'll die and join them, sooner rather than later?"

Vaggie: "......."

Vaggie: "... I want. To spend my life. With you."

Charlie: "No you don't." (voice cracking) "You can't do that when you're dead."

Vaggie: "That's not my fault."

Charlie: "Your choice though, right?"

Vaggie: "It’s not same thing-"

Charlie: "Yes it is. You want to be one who leaves."

Vaggie: "....... wouldn't you?"

Charlie: "...."

Vaggie: "..."

Charlie: "I don't.... want it to b- be like this."

Vaggie: "I know."

Charlie: "I want US! Not like this."

Vaggie: "I know, sweetie, I know... I'm so sorry-"

Charlie: "Stop it." (muffled in vaggie's hair) "You don't want this either, stop apologizing for it!"

Vaggie: "... I shouldn't have let you think, it could be different."

Charlie: "...."

Charlie: "It will be."

Vaggie: "Okay. Denial, that's a, normal step in-"

Charlie: "No- It WILL BE. I- We going to- we'll MAKE it different."

Vaggie: "I don't think we can..."

Charlie: "We will."

Vaggie: "Charlie-"

Charlie: "Damnit just trust me! If we can save a sinner's soul, then we can f-fucking save you."

Vaggie: "....."

Charlie: "Please, Vaggie. Can we try?"

Vaggie: "...it'll be a waste of time."

Charlie: "No it won't."

Vaggie: "We're already not gonna have forever together, sweetie. Why not just. Enjoy what we do have?"

Charlie: "I will! We will."

Charlie: "But we're going to have longer than one century for it."

Vaggie: "Half that, maybe..."

Charlie: "That's not the sound of trying. Vaggie. Please."

Vaggie: "...well... if you're gonna look at me like that about it..."

Charlie: "Don't joke about this."

Vaggie: "I'm not." (smile) "I just know better than to doubt Charlie Morningstar when she gets an idea into her cute, stubborn head."

Charlie: "All my head needs right now is an answer. One word. Clear. Honest."

Vaggie: "... alright. Yes. We can try."

Charlie: "Thank you." (kiss) "Thank you, thank you, thank you..."

Vaggie: "But you have to promise me. No deals. No selling souls- not for my sake, not even a little bit. Got it?"

Charlie: "Why are you so strict about this-"

Vaggie: "Because it's your soul."

Charlie: "-people make deals all the time! YOU made one with-"

Vaggie: "And it creeped me out even though it wasn't with my soul. Do you promise?"

Charlie: "This is a heaven thing isn't it?"

Vaggie: "Do you promise."

Charlie: "...."

Charlie: "I won't make, deals with anyone in hell, to save you."

Vaggie: (breathes out) "Then... we'll start by talking to Carmilla tomorrow."

Charlie: "TOMORROW!? But that-"

Vaggie: "Will give us time to figure out what we actually wanna SAY to Carmilla. She's still an Overlord, Charlie. Any info we give her she'll want to sure to keep her family safe first."

Charlie: "I know the fucking feeling..."

Vaggie: "So we're slowing this down and doing things carefully, so we do them right. Right?"

Charlie: "Right." (grumbling) "Fools rush in- blah blah BLAH."

Vaggie: "That's my girl."

Vaggie: (hesitates) (tentative smooch)

Vaggie: "Feeling better?"

Charlie: "Fine. I wish you'd stop asking ME that."

Vaggie: "Just glad you're not shaking so much anymore. Kinda scared me for a second."

Charlie: "I'm fine." (sighs) (hugs vaggie) "I didn't mean..."

Vaggie: "I didn't mean to scare you, too."

Charlie: "It's fine. You'll be okay."

Vaggie: "Mm. Already am."

Charlie: "And we're NOT looking for a replacement hotel manager."

Vaggie: "We're gonna need-"

Charlie: "NO."

Vaggie: "-okay. We'll hold off on it. We've got time."

Charlie: (holds her closer) (glares at distant light of heaven)

[davekat-sucks]

lute x adam is better than davekat and chaggie. they both sound killer singing together.

also just like wish's "villain", I find no fault in adam's reasoning, sinners such as rapists and pedos should be eradicated. i dont give a fuck about how apparently there are random kids in hell to emotionally manipulate the audience, for all we know that could be a grown ass man pretending to be a kid, and maybe that could have been more interesting: to see a hell's citizen take advantage of vaggie's kindness. it'd explain her trust issues & lute's bizarre reaction to actual mercy.

whats up with modern shows/films these days and their weird morals...

Adam x Lute is better than Davekat and Chaggie. Funny enough, Vivziepop confirmed that pedophiles, Nazis, and racists are already wiped out after they died. Like, human pedophiles/Nazis/racists who die, don't go to hell, limbo, purgatory, or heaven. They just get erased from existence. Angels have nothing to do with it. The Hazbin/Helluva universe already does its work. Of course, imps and hellborn creatures like hellhounds or the Sin ringleaders, can still be pedophiles, Nazis, and racists. But they are exempt from extermination. So the only sinners that do get sent to Hell to just do the same old shit would be murderers, con artists, human traffickers, rapists, and those who commit slavery, are still around. Which makes me question where does child murderers or those who lead child human trafficking and slavery fall in. Do they get wiped out from existence too if they didn't touch the child in that way? Do they get wiped out from existence for harming a young soul? Or do they get straight sent to Hell because murder is bad, regardless of age? Probably doesn't help that Heaven already admitted they don't know the requirements of people getting into Heaven, so it's a mystery on who is even checking since apparently at this point, even innocent souls who likely died of accident or bad circumstances, get sent to Hell regardless. It probably will be answered later on by some bullshit means, but it raises more questions on when in point did that become a thing. People pointed out that Angel Dust's sister, MOLLY, is there. What point in time Heaven allowed others to get in before it all changed with the extermination? Does even something small as when you were a kid stealing from the cookie jar, count as a major sin to be sent straight to Hell and that's why the child is sent in? Who the fuck knows. Maybe it will get answered in finale. Maybe they will hold it off for season 2 since it is confirmed and they are already recording the lines as we speak. I think the reason for these weird morals in recent modern media, just only goes for the straight black-white mortality, but hide it differently in these recent times as an act of justice that we won't make the same mistakes like we did in the past. Unfortunately, they are but are too ignorant to see it. Also in the case of how Hazbin Hotel is presenting with its rushed pacing, people, audiences and creators, would rather get to the heart of the matter fast and immediately than to build it up on how to get there. Why the fuck should we know about Camille and her backstory when all that matters is that she is a protective mother and that's it? No need to build up sustenance, all it matters is just the emotional factor to pull at your heartstrings for one moment like a quick sugar rush. No need to show the slow burn romance of why Vaggie likes Charlie. All it matters that she is now cute lesbians with her and its a good rep for LGBT. TL;DR of that is people are impatient.

[things-arent-what-they-seem66]

(Mulan AU)

*after many wars in the Kingdom of Eden which resulted in the deaths of most of the male population, the kingdom decided that it is now up to the women to fight for their kingdom with the few remaining male officers to lead the armies since the few men were needed to keep the population of Eden strong, it was then that a wrathful warlord named Satan decided to strike at Eden, in the Kingdom of Eden a noblewoman named Sera heard once again that her son Adam hadn’t picked a bride*

Sera: Adam, I had thought that you would have liked being married to Eve. You two are friends.

Adam: Yeah, that is what we are friends and nothing more.

*Adam was practicing with Emily’s sword, though Emily was meant to one day take up the mantle of warrior, she was too gentle of a soul to be a fighter and that fit Adam better though it was illegal for him now, Sera beckoned for him to sit by her*

Sera: My Starlight, if fate had been fair you would have been one of the greatest warriors around.

Adam: But I was born in a time where it was illegal for me to do it.

*she hugged her son understanding his frustration, just then they heard a call to the town square where it was decreed that all families with a woman of fighting must join the army to fight against Satan’s army, when the Kadmon family was called, a frightened Emily stepped forward to get her draft papers, but Adam stepped between them*

Adam: My sister is too young to fight.

Recruitment Officer: She looks to be only a year under fighting age, with how desperately we need soldiers we can make an exception.

Emily: Adam please.

*Emily grabbed the draft papers, but she looked like she was on the verge of tears*

Sera: Adam, you can’t go make a scene like that.

*Adam was walking home with his mother and sister wishing there was something he could do to keep Emily from fighting*

(I would place Adam at about 20 years old and Lucifer at 30 years old, so there is a little bit of an age gap but not too crazy, I am also thinking of having Eve, Lute, and Vaggie be the three soldiers that Mulan befriends and in this AU they will know Adam’s secret and are willing to help him keep it. Emily would be 17 when the fighting age is 18)

((Yeah Eve would recognize him after she got a good enough look at him. Poor Emily so frightened.))

Sera: It's going to be okay Emily sweetheart. You're a strong capable young woman.

Emily: I don't want to fight mum.

Sera: I know, but there is nothing that can be done.

Adam hated this, he didn't want his sister to die in war. He didn't want to stay back and make a bunch of babies with some woman he didn't love. He didn't have the heart to tell his mother that he preferred men.

That night, Adam laid awake when an idea came to him. What if he was the oldest Kadmon daughter?

He snuck into his sister's room while she slept. Adam took her draft letter, lucky it didn't have her first name on it just the family name. He then took a wig she owned, long brown and wavy, some basic makeup and a couple bras.

He wasn't sure how to feel that they were the same cup size.

Adam dressed up as a woman and even dawned the armor that Emily would need. He shaved his facial hair, arm pits and legs just in case. Adam used a protective cup to conceal his manhood.

Adam in his best female voice practiced in the mirror: Hello, my name is Adaline Kadmon. I'm the eldest daughter of the Kadmon family.

He said it over and over until it sounded just right.

Adam wrote a small note for his mother and sister for when they would wake up. It said that he was sorry, he loved them, but he had to do this and promised to be careful.

Adam: No turning back now.

When morning came, Adam left on their family horse to meet with the recruiting officer, all of his things packed.

Adam approached the officer, his heart pounding. He looked at the name tag it read Michael.

Michael: Name and paper please.

Adam handed him the draft paper: My name is Adaline Kadmon, eldest daughter of the Kadmon family.

[thebroadcast]

"One of the main six is going to die" - an opinion piece

Again, a show-relating rant of sorts! I do apologize for that, but the static that I call my mind just will not stop producing. Hence I will subject you, dear reader, to my very own take on a very sensitive matter. Hence, blanket TW for discussion of d*ath. In the cusps of the season one finale of HH, I have seen plenty of discussion on the topic of "who is going to die" - following an age-old (/h-jk) statement of the creator that "one of the main six is going to die". There seems to be a common conception that this will be happening now - which we do not know for sure, even if this is going to happen at all is not certain! - and the discourse mainly revolves around Vagatha and Angel Dust, with some speculating about Charlotte or possibly Alastor dying. If we stick with the common idea that the death is going to happen in the finale of the first season (which I am not completely sold on!), all of these could be compelling story-defining events, lending new and deeper motivations for those around them to oppose Heaven - but they would also be terribly boring because they are so overt!

Thus, I want to revisit two ideas with you, dear reader.. who are the "main six" in question and what does "dying" mean for each of them?

For the first one, I do not believe that the addressed "main six" are the main cast of the show or even the main characters living in the hotel! Eight characters are living there currently (Charlotte, Vagatha, Alastor, Nifty, Husker, Angel Dust, Keekee, and Pentious) and while, yes, dear Nifty and Keekee have been more of a supportive staff for now, again, this would be too overt. I will offer you a different reading.. how about the main six characters developing the plot and conflict of season one - the possibility of rehabilitation, redemption, and the opposition of this idea? Would not a death in this rank have a much bigger impact on the narrative..? I present to you, dear reader!

- Charlotte - the leader of the rebellion forming, the spokesperson for the worth and rehabilitation of Sinners. Her death could be a tragic rebirth, thrusting her into her Becoming and the Blooming of her powers. - Adam - the leader of the Exorcists, her direct foil and antagonist. His death could be an escalation of the conflict and/or the gateway to the introduction of an even Greater Evil.. we don't know what Exorcists really do all year long, and what if they keep the Greater Evil at bay? (Hints for Roo, possibly, and/or the things not written in ink). - Vagatha - the fallen Angel, protector of Charlotte, her partner and confidant. Her death could be a rebirth as a true Demon or Angel again (redemption through sacrifice, perhaps?) or a permanent fixture to support Charlotte's drive for justice. Also, why is no one talking about the possibility of HER having killed the Exorcist? - Lute - the second in command to the Exorcists and Adam's companion, as Vagatha's foil. Her death could be just as much a trigger to violence for Adam and the Exorcists, pushing the conflict to a new level. (Also, as a little side note.. we have seen her face. That cannot be a good sign! Also, what are the LED screen helmet designs all about? I cannot stop thinking about it!) - Emily - the Seraph who comes to the same conclusion as Charlotte, that Heaven has to be a lie. Her death could be a reprise of the Fall of Lucifer, her joining the main cast in the fight against the double standards of judgment to make right of what is wrong. - Carmilla - the Sinner (and possibly fallen Angel, seeing all the thematic ties she shares with Vagatha) who seems to know that Heaven cannot be trusted, but speaks for the status quo to remain unchanged - her call to conservation is a foil to Emily's drive to change. Her death would shake up the Overlords, possibly opening up the scene for the Vs to spark the fight on their front.

In my humble opinion, Lute and Carmilla would make the most compelling candidates for the character to die, if this is to happen in the finale of the season. The potential impacts of their deaths could be magnificent while also omitting the sacrifice of characters that bear the possibility of age-old, deep conflicts and developments yet to be seen. What do you think?

[gctchell]

Asking this of pretty most at this point. How dark would things have gotten if Charlie had actually been killed by Adam?

Dark.

Niffty has a mindset that's like a steel trap in stress situations. She becomes the very opposite of her manic self - she's methodical and uncomfortably stilled, is put together and the person you can surprisingly rely on when shit hits the fan. Everyone is freaking out with the loss of Charlie in that moment and Niffty has switched gears in her head - she looked at the fight and saw fun. She gave way to chaos and violence like a bird gliding on the breeze. Charlie's death is the turn point and the other switch turns on, and she uses that moment to kill Adam while he's killing Charlie - his back is exposed and she is swift.

I imagine Lute would probably try and kill her in this moment and land a fatal blow, but Niffty is using her speed and size to her advantage to become a total honed killer in the moment. It's possible she nails Lute, or in the least slices and stabs her enough to leave damage where she needs to retreat.

Hell is rough living, but there's something particularly altering about watching the hope and heart of Hell die in front of you. Anyone else's death is something that could happen, but Charlie feels like the one person who will never die, and she died. That put some edge on Niffty and makes her a more vicious and sardonic individual.

Carmilla hears of it and she knows there is barely any time to seize hold of the situation. Hell is about to turn on its head. She has means to get to the human world, she's planned for an escape probability ages ago. She is grabbing her daughters and those who mean something dear to her and moving them to Earth. She stays behind to settle her business, but loved ones are evacuated.

Stella knows war is coming. There is a sick feeling in the gut hearing that Charlie has died. She does not personally know Charlie, but she holds personal fondness for Lilith and as a result, has some of that spread to her daughter. It's heavy news, and it's even heavier when you're part of the demonic monarchy who own legions. Stolas is going to be expected to take to the battlefield, she knows that, and there is an immense bout of anxiety and fear knowing that regardless of their relationship.

She gathers with Octavia and Stolas and immediately begins to prepare for the worst, because it's coming. Luckily, due to her emotional control, she is able to keep a firm mind about this. She knows it's impossible to speak to Paimon at this time, but she would try to as to find out if there is any sort of emergency fallback for the families of his descendants. She needs to know if there is a fail safe for Octavia.

She arms herself with her grimoires and her snow globes, expecting partially to be drawn in for part of the battle, and expecting to be the prime caregiver for her daughter. Total lockdown.

Lilith.

mentions of child death beneath the cut.

This is Lilith's surviving baby after thousands of years lined up with stillborns, miscarriages, and child death. Lilith worked hard to have Charlie, she put her soul into that girl being born and beating the curse laid upon her womb and she succeeded, yet like the rest of her unnamed children, she still died by Heaven's hand - even worse, she died by the man who Lilith was born with at the very same time. Her intended mate, killing her baby.

Lilith feels it happen and her voice rips a bloody swathe across Heaven. Her screeching penetrates the realms. Her voice, magical and her signature power, is filled with desolation and a mother's deepest ache. I think it stops the battle. I think Adam feels her deep in his chest in his soul that was created alongside hers and he feels her coming, and then he feels Niffty's dagger.

Lilith frees herself and if Lucifer has not done so already, the Exorcists are slain instantly by her voice, her screech. With her return, Hell has entered the War Era. She is leaning into her darker, nightmare aspects completely. She is weaving to life demonic creatures and monstrosities in her workshop specifically meant for this. She will not meet for peace. She will meet with concerned Deadly Sins and Nobles, and Overlords who are joining the war and hear them out, because going to war with just emotion driving you is how you lose. She's strategic and bringing in the sharpest of the Ars Goetia and other Royals (Paimon for one). This is Heaven, and it's going to fall by hook or by crook. (whether they actually succeed, who knows? it depends entirely on the writing, but regardless, it will not be easy and it will be long)

In the middle of all this, Lilith takes Charlie's body and multiple times, she tries to bring her back. Her daughter's body is kept safe in a different dimension, specifically shaped just for her, honoring her. A light space filled with flowers, and she is resting in a bed with a bouquet and a red veil draped over her. Only Lilith and Lucifer have access to her, though Lilith would grant permission to Vaggie.

This is a very dark timeline. Charlie's existence holds so much power, and you kill her, you invite chaos. That's Hell's daughter.

[spookky-aint-spooky]

More of this! Tbh when i started writing it i only intended on focusing on Sir Pentious but along the way I roped in the other characters and just kept on going. I like world building ok, what can I say. But I've got some more ideas to share with you savages >:)

In the aforementioned ask I roughly expanded on my ideas in the replies and I want to polish them up so you can actually understand what I was trying to convey.

But long story short, Lilith and Peter (he's no saint no more) take the roles of Adam (because song parallel bullshit, Adam plays guitar and Lilith is the Lady Gaga of hell) and Lute, with Adam exchanging places with Eve, officially making him the original sinner. And Eve fills the eccentric Charlie-shaped hole she left behind after locking herself up in her home, awaiting her fathers return from heaven. In response to Charlie's depressive slump, Eve, in hopes of bringing back that radiant charm, decided to make her dream come true.

Anyways, moving on the three divas, Rosie, the darling face on every canned sinner product in hell, from flaming hot loins to crispy bits, every product is 100% organic. Working with her trusted and most loyal adviser alongside her, Susan, to ensure that the products are up to code. Alastor is the founder of the company and the proud owner of his critically acclaimed jazz club who he co owens with Mimzy, he also plays radio host on the side. Sinners know that when he picks up the mick shits about to go down, because the last time he did that he absolutely demolished a company that was getting a bit too close to home to his liking. Where he gets the dirt from to deflect onto rivals is unknown (Mimzy, it's Mimzy). Speaking of Mimzy, the self-proclaimed sweetheart of the pride ring is a beast to deal with when she feels she's been slighted, taking the phrase “devil in high heels” to a whole new level. Despite her smal stature it's impossible to miss her and her signature luxurious white fur coat santuring around covered in jewels. The diamond ring alone on her index finger costing more than any old shabby rundown hotel.

Together the three are an unstoppable force on their side of the pentagram they set shop in, and together they call themselves the RAMs.

Vaggie is mostly unchanged, her backstory is the same but instead of being saved by Charlie she saves herself, and builds a company from the ground up using the military training to her advantage. Creating a military run weapons organization and quickly becoming hell's number one weapons dealer. With a sinner that I retconned into being a hellhound in this au by her side as her second in command, Crymini, who stuck by her side after Vaggie spared her. This is also bittersweet because unlike sinners, hellborn can age, and die of age :)

Also, on another note on a minor character, Vox is now a news anchor along with… ehhh, have not really come that far. I was thinking maby arackniss because when Katie gets angry she grows a pair of arms, and arackniss is a spider, idk. Also Carmilla is a seraphim along with her daughters, may or may not be why Zestial wasn't seen for years, because he was visiting his friend, in heaven (and didn't tell Pentious).

Like I said earlier this started as a Sir Pentious centered thing but, you know, and I've been mentally calling this the scrabble au, because my mind becomes scrambled everytime i think of whose what and such (psst, i don't mind it just being called overlord Pentious au, just saying).

Again, all of y'all, LOOK AT THIS GENIUS IN MY ASKS

[evulosie]

𝐐𝐔𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍𝐒 & 𝐀𝐍𝐒𝐖𝐄𝐑𝐒 :

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀𝗦𝗢 𝗬𝗢𝗨, 𝗔𝗦 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗠𝗨𝗡, 𝗗𝗢𝗡'𝗧 𝗔𝗖𝗧𝗨𝗔𝗟𝗟𝗬 𝗕𝗘𝗟𝗜𝗘𝗩𝗘 𝗟𝗨𝗧𝗘 𝗜𝗦 𝗘𝗩𝗘 ?⠀⠀⠀⠀Nope! I just really like this fandom theory / speculation & [ I think ] makes for interesting implications! Personally, I subscribe to either that the mother Charlie grew up is Eve ( pretending to be Lillith ) or that Roo is Eve, pulling all the strings on the deal with Alastor; neither of which I will be roleplaying on this blog in particular,

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀𝗪𝗛𝗔𝗧 𝗪𝗜𝗟𝗟 𝗬𝗢𝗨 𝗗𝗢 𝗪𝗛𝗘𝗡 𝗘𝗩𝗘 𝗜𝗦 𝗥𝗘𝗩𝗘𝗔𝗟𝗘𝗗 𝗜𝗡 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗦 ?⠀⠀⠀⠀I will either backup + delete the blog [ or simply archive it ], or make this a dual blog that features Lute & plays a more canon-aligned Eve [ or move respective muses to my main hub over on Kitty as sideblogs ] - this is for fun, I don’t truly subscribe to this theory. On the wild, unlikely scenario this turns out to be canon, I’ll keep writing on the blog,

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀𝗗𝗢 𝗬𝗢𝗨 𝗕𝗘𝗟𝗜𝗘𝗩𝗘 𝗟𝗨𝗖𝗜𝗙𝗘𝗥 𝗪𝗔𝗦 𝗧𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗧𝗥𝗨𝗧𝗛 𝗥𝗘𝗚𝗔𝗥𝗗𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗘𝗩𝗘 ?⠀⠀⠀⠀I don’t know what to think, honestly - could be either way. I initially believed he was bluffing + the show paints him as very devoted to his wife [ or gives that impression, I suppose ] but it’s just as likely that he was telling the truth, given Adam’s reaction. For this blog, I lean more towards it was just a bluff, but regardless, Eve / Lute doesn’t like to talk about it,

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀𝗪𝗛𝗔𝗧 𝗜𝗦 𝗗𝗜𝗙𝗙𝗘𝗥𝗘𝗡𝗧 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗝𝗪 𝗗𝗢𝗖𝗧𝗥𝗜𝗡𝗘 & 𝗛𝗢𝗪 𝗗𝗢𝗘𝗦 𝗜𝗧 𝗔𝗙𝗙𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗩𝗘 / 𝗟𝗨𝗧𝗘 ?⠀⠀⠀⠀It’s the religion I ( unfortunately ) was raised in [ note: I’m not in it anymore, as I’m agnostic ], & the one I reference the most.

Per JW doctrine, Adam & Eve were ‘perfect’ & once they disobeyed God, they lost what made them as such; the consequence of eating the fruit & gaining knowledge was to become imperfect, to gradually age & eventually die. They had the prospect of endless life, with perfect health & perpetually youthful bodies; they were perfect in mind & body. They were created for eternal life; I believe per Hazbin lore, Adam probably didn’t eat the fruit [ so he’s permitted to remain in Heaven, despite sinning as well ] - regardless, Eve / Lute clearly remembers Adam eating the fruit alongside her [ whether someone made her remember as such is up to debate ]

Eve was also the first one to acknowledge God by his name when giving birth to Cain, stating she gave birth with His aid; for the purposes of this blog, I interpret that as Eve & God having a slightly more special dynamic versus God & Adam,

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀𝗪𝗛𝗬 𝗗𝗢𝗘𝗦 𝗟𝗨𝗧𝗘 𝗛𝗔𝗧𝗘 𝗩𝗔𝗚𝗚𝗜𝗘 𝗦𝗢 𝗠𝗨𝗖𝗛 ?⠀⠀⠀⠀Canonically speaking? I like to theorize that she was either jealous that Adam held Vaggie in such high regard, to the point where he named her after ‘the best thing ever’; that, or she liked her romantically, but because such feelings [ toward the same sex ] are frowned upon in Heaven, she repressed such feelings + began to resent her, as if it was Vaggie’s fault. Those are just theories though! It could be that she’s just an equal opportunity hater, haha…

But for the purposes of this blog, well… in essence, Lute views all humans [ current & former ] as less than ( despite her being the ‘mother’ of mankind ) not unlike a disappointed & abusive parent. She also tends to project her insecurities / past mistakes & act of ( arguably ) inventing Sin onto literally everyone else. What Vaggie did was go against orders; for that, she is to be punished without mercy, just as she was. When she committed sin, she was immediately condemned - why wouldn’t anyone else?

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀𝗗𝗢𝗘𝗦 𝗔𝗗𝗔𝗠 𝗞𝗡𝗢𝗪 𝗢𝗙 𝗟𝗨𝗧𝗘'𝗦 𝗜𝗗𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗜𝗧𝗬 ?⠀⠀⠀⠀This largely depends on what Adam I’m writing with. My default canon is left ambiguous for this reason; personally I like to think he may have an inkling, but that’s it. It can go either way; Adam may be a jerk, but he’s not intellectually stupid ( … I don’t think so, anyway? ) so he could very well know Lute’s true identity & simply go along with the ruse; plotting is the way to go! Personally, I much fancy the idea that he doesn't know; I love me angst & drama!

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀𝗪𝗛𝗬 𝗗𝗢𝗘𝗦 𝗟𝗨𝗧𝗘 𝗟𝗢𝗢𝗞 𝗦𝗢 𝗗𝗜𝗙𝗙𝗘𝗥𝗘𝗡𝗧 𝗖𝗢𝗠𝗣𝗔𝗥𝗘𝗗 𝗧𝗢 𝗕𝗘𝗙𝗢𝗥𝗘 ?⠀⠀⠀⠀Her current physical appearance is a result of punishment; in exchange to remain in Heaven, Lute / Eve lives in the physical appearance she died, from old age - this would include her hair & short stature [ graying hair & 'shrinking', as one does when elderly ]. Her skin is the result of the affliction of ‘specialized’ vitiligo [ as in, placed by her Father ] due to the constant exposure to celestial / holy light as she lives in Heaven.

Her skin literally burns off in the presence of divine light, being stripped of its’ healthy color [ which is constantly ], hence why she chooses to place her helmet & uniform on a lot of the time. Lute / Eve’s skin constantly burns & itches, she’s in constant physical discomfort; underneath her uniform, she has large white patches, peeling skin & burns,

Per 1 Corinthians 11:14 / 15,⠀⠀‘ [ … ] BUT IF A WOMAN HAS LONG HAIR, IT IS A GLORY TO HER? FOR HER HAIR IS GIVEN TO HER INSTEAD OF A COVERING, ’⠀⠀- as such, Lute dons short hair, signifying zero glory to her person, & emphasizes dishonor

[strykingback]

Zek's Hazbin Hotel Verse

Before continuing, we do not condone Vizviepop's immoral actions and more that they have done. Thus interacting with this verse will be gaining the Hazbin Hotel TW/Hellaverse Tw/Helluva Boss TW

Name: Zek Sunna Simo Birthdate: June 11th, 1905 Age When He Became Death/The Grim Reaper: 22 Age Now: Unknown but possibly thousands of years old.

Bio: Amongst Heaven and Hell, there has been one figure that many had wondered who he was and why do they take the souls and deliver them to either Heaven or Hell for either Eternal Peace or Eternal Suffering. In the human realm he is known by many names, Charon of the River Styx in Greek Mythology, Anubis in Egyptian Mythology, Shinigami in Japanese Mythology. However.... if there is one thing that all three realms agree on that they are known as the Grim Reaper.... and they do not judge what someone did before dying. What matters to him is how they lived their life and should they not appreciate the life that was given to them... then they do not deserve a painless end....

However, what other do not know is that the Title and Power of the Grim Reaper has been passed down from generation to generation, from the start of man to the very present the Grim Reapers name has been given to humans who understand the balance of life and death..... as in the early 20th century.. the recent Grim Reaper had to find a successor thus did he see a man born in Yakutia who was ready to suffer the harsh cold winters, that was when that man turned twenty two as he would be sent out into the front lines as a Sniper as he found his targets easily and sniped them without a scope. However it was one day a counter sniper caught him slipping up and shot the man.....as he laid there dying the Grim Reaper approached him and gave him an offer.... To Become Death as he was ready to pass on the role..... Thus the young man accepted as he asked him his name as he responded with Zek Sunna Simo as he only donned the Simo part after hearing about a Sniper in the finnish army who was a deadly sniper and was inspired by him to do the same. Which Death granted him his powers... and thus Zek became the new immortal figure of death.... as he saw how long someone had to live and how they may or may not die. He saw empires rise and fall... but he had access to Heaven and Hell at the same time... thus he would meet Adam who he refers the the First Asshole of Humanity. Then Lute who he was friends with for a while until they broke up as heard about the Exorcisms in Hell as Zek feared the WORST for demons.

However, in hell things were different as he met with Lucifer and his daughter Charlie as he got to know them and even agreed with Charlie about her ideas about Demons being redeemed and being capable of ascending to heaven. Thus when the final battle of Season one of Hazbin Hotel came Zek chose to stand against the Exorcists and protected them stating that no one not even demons seeking redemption should face a second death...

Thus when he is asked by Lucifer to look through and find out about Liliths whereabouts in which he looks into her mysterious disappearance and where she is.....

[awesome-cookies-and-cream]

Reki and Langa’s dynamic

It’s speculation at my part and a shameless rant on what i like about sk8 just to get it off my chest I’ve been so fixated help

it’s 5am I’m at uni and i have a shit ton to do, am I really gonna make an essay about sk8 instead? yes abso-fucking-lutely. strap on to your metaphorical skateboards kids. this is going to be long ride

this isn’t to call out anyone lol so in case you get that impression I’m sorry. I understand everyone is out to interpret media in whatever they like and that’s fine, but sometimes i feel like either some missed some points of the story? anyway here are my thoughts tho

alright so what i absolutely love about sk8 is how they didn’t make anyone into a genius.Genius is a mockery of the hardships everyone does to attain that level of skills. And no Langa is not a genius or a prodigy which I will explain later. I’ve seen enough shounen animes back in the day and usually it’s ‘annoying heart of gold beginner vs. calm and collected genius’ they usually hate each other’s guts and bicker all the time though secretly, deep down care for each other but would rather die than admit it dynamic. While I’m glad we’re moving past that, I really thought Reki and Langa would be like that so....

imagine my surprise when Langa was the ‘beginner’ in skating. He has the potential to be a second sasuke here lol. (blue, handsome, cool) but no he isn’t. he’s an adorable idiot, an airhead, head empty only skating dude and i love it. 

Reki as well. He could have been the usual protagonist. (sucks at his sport, loud, hardworking, and by the power of friendship he suddenly beats everyone else which i think is pretty overused at this point, don’t you think?) some people complain how Reki despite being the MC isn’t given screentime and hasn’t won a single beef. (and sure that’s true. he should have won some and langa lose some but we only have 12 eps so lol) but he’s not the usual protagonist you know? and sk8 isn’t about winning. if it was, I think they would have focused on the techniques. the hows and the what to do.

Idk if you noticed, but sports anime with winning in its goal would often explain in detail certain techniques. (see haikyuu) but shows like Free and Yuri on Ice isn’t exactly talking about how to win that seriously as Haikyuu did. It’s more focusing on the feelings and how their lives are affected with their passion for this sport. it’s about the character development!!! and i think SK8 is something like that too. It explores the character’s feelings rather than sport. (like what i tell my sister, they use the sport as a character device if that makes sense?)

this was literally in the opening lol. it’s really about the feelings you know?

so anyway it’s been pointed out several times that Reki was already feeling insecure about his skills in skating since ep 1 way before Langa came. But he still likes to skate and despite feeling never enough, he still enjoyed it. (some also pointed out that Reki’s reason of going into a beef against Shadow has been because he insulted his way of skating not because he wanted to be the best) so the show from the get go was already hinting at his self esteem issues.

this also implies that Reki has always been feeling like this in a while, added with his tendencies to bottle things up, it makes sense that he’ll blow up at some point and he’ll need to release all of those feelings. (so yeah i think this is just the right amount of eps for their fall out. i see some people complaining shush. otherwise it would also feel too rushed. this is years weighing him)

and i guess it’s also implied in here he’s had days like these too in the past! seriously it’s an ongoing problem he’s been carrying. i think 3 eps is pretty good enough pace to internalize it

so point: Reki was already down way before Langa came. langa just added to that. And don’t go blaming Langa cause the boy did nothing wrong.

Consider that Langa just lost his dad (i think we need more backstory on this though. please sdsjkdksl i need little Langa and his dad interactions) he just moved countries, and the only connection to his dad (snowboarding) is gone cause it doesn’t snow in OKinawa

though one also argues that Langa hasn’t been snowboarding since his dad was gone.

so for Langa, Reki introducing skating to him was revolutionary. You’re someone grieving over the death of what is probably the most important person in your life, the thing you love the most no longer gives you joy (as was shown in the flashbacks and basically Langa going ‘it’s the same’) and you’re in a new country with a language you barely are fluent. you can’t even read or write, and you barely have friends granted you don’t have much back in the day. it’s horrible.

and then this guy you barely know talks to you, befriends you, helps you get a job, and teaches you something you thought you’ve lost and through that you made more friends??

yeah you see why Langa likes Reki. You also see why he’s obsessed with skating. It’s kind of like a coping, a fixation. plus he’s bad with social cues i guess? the interview says he’s likely to get dumped for being too inattentive lmao and that’s what makes him interesting!

also the thing that really surprised me when they first interacted was how supportive Reki is to Langa. it also got to me with how much Langa thinks highly of Reki. Again a deviation to the ‘i say i hate you but deep down i care for you’ trope. they’re full on supportive and protective. i like that. it’s fresh to me. I thought Reki was going to the tsundere ‘hmph that’s not a big deal’ route at the start of ep 2 but he’s really amazed. (kinda also says he’s been very desperate for someone to share skating with but that’s another topic)

so Reki teaches Langa how to skate. and Langa sucks. Which was interesting to me because I thought Langa would be some flawless prince-like character. But nah. He trips and faints at his own blood lol. He’s so uncool and i love it.

Some people say Langa is over powered with a thick ass plot armor which gets him to win (which is why i see people saying he should have won against Joe and I actually agree that Langa should lose some beefs but again only 12 eps, so little time)

but I still wanna talk about it anyway so it’s revealed Langa was snowboarding since 2. That’s 15 years. I think that should be around the same time Joe and Cherry should be skating. and i think if you start earlier as a kid, your body develops differently. (should Langa, “an amateur” win against Joe a pro? the question falls more on whether you can classify Langa as an amateur) i think it’s like Langa being very used to motorcycle tricks from age 2 then suddenly he’s using a regular bicycle, and sure the feeling is mostly the same but there’s just something off. Your body doesn’t easily forget what you know, especially if it did it for 15 years. and so Reki customizes a board for Langa so it’ll feel exactly like snowboarding

So Langa has a customized board that he needed to get used to before he went pro. He really sucked the first few eps lmao. but that’s more of him getting used to the new rules. he pretty much told Reki in ep 2 that he can’t do a skateboard ollie, but he can do a snowboard one bec it’s attached to his feet.

(i may just want to add that one thing i also like about sk8 is that it really doesn’t care what you need for accommodation? if that’s how you do it best, then go for it. When Langa says to Reki he can’t do the ollie without the board attached to his feet, Reki immediately goes his way to accommodate him. usually people in real life might say ‘it’s not real skateboarding if you need a modification etc. but look at Cherry with a freaking AI board and people are like yeah whatever do what you want man. whatever rolls your board.)

so anyway Langa vs. Joe with Langa winning despite being an amateur? if you can even call him an amateur that is. Plus all his tricks are snowboarding tricks lol. everything he’s done is testament to his 15 years of snowboarding?? We don’t even know how good Langa is in snowboarding. Someone make a post about how difficult the snowboarding equivalent of those tricks Langa has done just to show people it means he’s pretty pro (I’ll even argue maybe Langa’s real talent is his creative ways of going around things which kind of why Adam is highkey obsessed, and calls Cherry who calculates everything to the last second boring but that’s a different can of worms I’m opening later) plus Langa barely won against Joe so there’s not much difference in level i think. Should Langa have lost though?

I think some have missed the point of that beef in Reki’s pov. and if the Renga reconciliation is done well, it would be worth it.

that beef got Reki to realize he what he really wants! that it’ll kill him if he can’t skate anymore! that he doesn’t wanna only cheer on for others and be a support! THAT HE WANTS TO SKATE BY LANGA’S SIDE WHICH IS THE REASON FOR ALL THIS INSECURITIES if Langa lost, that cathartic realization might not have happened. He might have gone to Langa and cheered him up, brushed off his insecurities and, made up with Langa halfheartedly without addressing his problems

I’m going to go back to Reki’s insecurities. In ep 6 he’s been afraid of being left behind, and sure Langa came back for him but he still forgot until midway. (will that parallel how Langa got too excited with the idea of skating, the same feeling he thought he lost forever. The same thing that he thinks connects him with his dad, and might have left Reki behind, but later remembers and goes back to chase him? hopefully) in ep 4 it’s obvious he’s afraid of the near death experience Adam gave him, and he’s just realized how different their skills were. in ep 5 he worries about Langa, enough to get nightmares about it. mixed with his friend getting hurt. it’s obvious the feelings are very very muddled there.

So he begs Langa not to skate with Adam.

And what did Langa do? say that he wanted to skate with Adam. (again he’s not the most attentive. he probably thinks he’s just skating with his best friend, all is good then boom. Reki leaves. as a person shit with dealing with other people, i don’t blame him at all) he’s trying to fix it though, but his bond with Reki primarily revolves around skating! how else was he going to warm up with Reki? He also doesn’t know that Reki has self esteem issues that’s always been there since the beginning. He probably doesn’t understand it too because he holds Reki up highly. in ep 6 when Reki was going over his board, Langa thinks he’s pretty cool. he didn’t hear what other said to Reki. He’s earnestly having fun with his friend

We should also note that Reki was never angry at Langa’s skills, he wasn’t resentful that Langa was far ahead. Again he’s been nothing but supportive. He doesn’t want to pull Langa down. He wasn’t like Miya’s friends that lashed out at Miya for being better. in ep 7 he tries his best to follow Langa

it feels like he’s mostly regretful that he can’t catch up. he doesn’t want Langa to slow down, he wants to go faster and meet him where he was. So it makes the realization that all he wants to do was be in equal with Langa more frustrating because he thinks he can’t keep up. (and this only ever started when he heard he’s like Langa’s plus one. there’s that daunting feeling about being pulled around. not being his equal) 

if you need further proof, when Langa and Joe were having a beef, he wasn’t aggressively hoping Langa would lose. in fact he encouraged him. He worries deeply He calls him out when he was doing badly. Still very supportive as ever. So really the frustration isn’t to Langa, again, it’s all internal. He wants to be better

so he’s feeling shit and Langa goes to him in the middle of the rain, bless langa for trying, thinking talking about skating (what he thinks Reki loves and would probably cheer him up, not knowing that’s exactly his problem) tells him

which is probably the worst he could say.

THAT’S what got Reki mad, not really Reki being insecure though that’s part of it, that’s what they’re fighting about, Reki is angry he’s breaking his promise. He thinks Langa doesn’t care about Reki, that he’ll easily break a promise between them that Reki obviously cares about just so he can go skate with Adam who is way better than him. It blows to the self esteem. Reki probably also think that if only he was better, langa wouldn’t bother skating with someone that dangerous. it doesn’t help at all.

but langa doesn’t know this. he doesn’t see all this. Langa might have been too up the high of skating like in ep 6, he sorta left Reki behind again.

it kinda makes Langa’s mom’s words hit harder though

and he did just that. he got too engrossed.

It parallels adam, cherry and joe’s friendship then probably tadahsi’s too but who knows? reki and langa, and tadashi and adam might parallel too, the master and the student thingy Adam might have gotten too obsessed. So Joe trying his best to make sure Reki and Langa won’t end up like them hits a little harder in my chest ;’)

but Langa won’t be to engrossed i think

because unlike Adam who’s aggressively looking for his ‘equal’, Langa is just looking for someone who makes his heart beat, to make him feel like he’s skating with his dad again, someone he loves dearly. (there’s a parallel about loves here too between Adam’s and Langa’s. but I can’t write it now) and he probably already thinks Reki is his equal anyway. He just wants to have fun. he doesn’t think much about the skills.

maybe at first he does. that’s why he’s drawn to Adam but from ep 9, it was pretty much shown that skills really doesn’t matter from when he skated against Joe

if Adam easily discarded his friends because he think they’re boring (which was why the whole skateboard to the face thing with Cherry), langa doesn’t think like that

if anything Reki is important to Langa because he only has fun skating with Reki, who taught him how to skate and made his board. (his board that was customized to fit his style btw, and arguably the only reason he could skate that well. without it, he might as well be a beginner once again.) so without reki, langa is left with nothing. especially with his broken board

no fun in skating, no way of skating. He’s only manage to get this far because of Reki and he knows that now. All of it would be pointless if he doesn’t have Reki (and either he gets so obsessed in chasing that feeling again, or he stops completely) but in case you haven’t noticed it, Langa’s motivation revolves around having fun with skating no matter the skill or place. And he’s having most fun with Reki.

But Reki obviously doesn't know Langa’s feelings. He thinks Langa was forever looking for someone better. So he’s still caught up in the idea that Langa won’t want to skate with him (even though Langa has never shown this) and he left S entirely, thinking what he wants is impossible. fucking just talk you two motherfucker

(I also wanna point out that Reki has always been shown from episode one to be good at making boards. And that’s amazing? We need some support recognition and appreciation, seriously) I think maybe most who find problem with Reki not winning beefs like the usual shounen protags aren’t used to the nuance and perspective of being someone ‘ordinary’. Reki’s character is relatable because most of us feel ordinary, never enough, surrounded by geniuses, ‘inferior’. And if we’re being realistic since a lot are saying joe should have won because langa winning is unrealistic and you want realism so bad no I’m not salty at all there will always be someone better than you. ALWAYS. but what’s important is for you to have fun in what you love! in what makes you happy! AND even if you’re not good at one thing (in Reki’s part, skating) he’s also good at other things (making boards) so does he need to stop one for the other? no. He’s shown to enjoy skating with Langa, he doesn’t wanna stop it hurts him so much he quit. But he can also hone his skills in making boards as well as skate. He’s equal with Langa in a way he doesn’t even notice when he made that board for Langa, but even Reki’s presence alone makes Langa enjoy skating the way Reki also wants Langa by his side.

So I think the next ep is the best time to confront all these feelings. And how it happens might be what’s tricky. Like romantic or not, i personally can read it both ways though i prefer if they do become canon. (idk if it’s queerbaiting. i guess friends can care as deeply as that but ngl, these shounen bestfriends having deep connections that are written off as friends while also giving us bland af hetero love interests who did nothing but exist and be straight really is messing with my perception of romantic and platonic love irl) anyway their talk better be done really well, or else all those episodes of tension would be for nothing

It’s a nice perspective to give a shounen protagonist this time. It’s new, it’s fresh. How many incarnations of underdog turned the best at their craft can you take? variety is nice! and if you don’t like it, there are always a dozen other animes like that for you to turn to. to conclude, IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE START: WHAT IS YOUR HAPPINESS???! AND FOR THEM IT’S THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP BUT IN A VERY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. FRIENDSHIP DOESN’T  SUDDENLY GET YOU TO LEVEL 100000000000 TO DEFEAT THE FINAL BOSS. FRIENDSHIP IS WHAT MAKES DEFEATING THE FINAL BOSS WORTHWHILE

Anyway tldr; maybe the real Eve is the friends we made along the way :D  and idk if I’m making sense but obviously I’m head empty only sk8. Renga needs to talk, i can’t believe they have the audacity to make a recap episode as if i wasn’t head empty only sk8 since february, and if there’s more emotional edging to come, i will burn some of the palm trees outside my house

[whataboutthefish]

The Last Winter

With each new spring, it got harder and harder to say goodbye to his wolves. They all knew with each goodbye they were drawing closer to the last one, and each year Jaskier would promise them the same thing. “I’ll try not to die.” 

Vesemir had offered Jaskier the keep as his permanent home ten years past, the two of them enjoyed the company as they rattled around Kaer Morhen. Jaskier now looked older than Vesemir, his hair still mostly black with a shock of grey streaking through his fringe. It had thinned some in recent years and Jaskier kept a jaunty hat with a purple feather in it firmly atop his head all year round. 

He wore a beard as white as Geralt’s to cover some of the damage age had done to him. His wolves would swear he looked as beautiful as the day they first met him, and Jaskier would chuckle at their sweet words. But he couldn’t help but feel wilted among these men who hadn’t changed while he couldn’t seem to stop.

He spent most of his days in the library, determined to have the whole thing catalogued in his lifetime, he worked tirelessly or so he’d tell his wolves when they returned for winter. Vesemir would flash a knowing smirk his way before being prodded with a stick in the gut. He knew Jaskier spent more time sleeping on the comfortable lounge Lambert had purchased for him as a retirement gift.

The stick was new. Last winter his hip had started to ache and then one day he found himself on the ground one too many times for his wolves' liking. Eskel had presented him with a wooden staff, the head carved into a wolf, he’d carved it himself, polished it to a high sheen so the wood was as smooth as stone. Jaskier didn’t like to admit it but he needed to use it, he told himself he was honouring his wolves by carrying the gift.

Geralt was the worst for fussing if Jaskier so much as grunted while getting up he was lifted and coddled, the White Wolf holding onto his elbow like he was a fragile maiden. At least he told himself it was that and not an old crone which he felt on long nights when his wolves were all asleep around him, youthful and strong and him the shriveled shell with nothing but his memories of youth and adventure.

And what a life he’d had, his only resentment was he would have to leave this life. Not because he was afraid to die, no he was ready when death came knocking. He was afraid to leave his wolves. 

They loved him so fiercely, all in their own different way. They had grown so much since the first winter, they loved freely now and easily, they opened their hearts, their worries and fears. They shared with one another as well as himself, there was a calm around them that had taken decades for him to pull from them. To free them.

Their bed was not without fun though, he still enjoyed pleasure with his wolves. Vesemir had brewed a herbal potion that helped when things wouldn’t come as easy as they had in his youth, and he still took a cock like a champ. In those regards it was as if his wolves didn’t see him as old, yes they might have been a little more gentle but Jaskier could still give them a look and they’d toss him over one of their shoulders and they’d run to their room. 

Vesemir still got cranky when things escalated in the main hall, throwing a cloth at one of his pups, “You could at least clean up after yourselves.”

But the goodbyes, they were the worst. Jaskier saw the pain in his wolves’ eyes as they took their leave one at a time. The hugs were tighter, the kisses lingered and they would keep looking back until the path turned out of view. A little part of Jaskier’s heart broke every time.

This summer Jaskier got a cold, it started in his head like any other but he couldn’t shake it, it went to his chest and soon Kaer Morhen echoed with the rattling bark as he shuffled around. Vesemir tried all manner of potions and herbs to help soothe and cure, he even contacted Triss to see if she had some insight. 

Jaskier knew as soon as he saw her face after she had done her inspection. “No don’t say it, I will prepare myself.” Triss sat with him that night, leaving all manner of herbs and bottles to ease the pain that would inevitably come. She didn’t baby him but laid it all out with instructions so that Jaskier was in full control of his care. The final vial she slipped him was small and black, the last thing that would touch his lips.

Vesemir wanted to send word to the wolves on the path, but Jaskier was adamant that he shouldn’t. They would only rush back or worse be reckless on the path with their full attention broken by him. He would do nothing to hurt his wolves even if they might never forgive him for this. The world still needed Witcher’s and Jaskier, he’d had them for many decades in every way he could ever dream of. No, he would not have them off the Path because he was... because this would be his last winter.

The autumn was cooler than usual and Jaskier left his room less and less. His voice was ragged, which probably hurt worse than anything else. He could no longer keep his breath to sing so he would sit with his lute and will his knotted fingers to obey.

Vesemir would sit with him once his chores were done, they played gwent in the afternoons sipping the very best vintages and getting happily merry together to while the days away. When Jaskier could hardly breathe for coughing Vesemir would rub slaves into his chest and back and sit with him through the night. 

They didn’t talk about this, but they both knew why. Jaskier was afraid of dying alone, after all these years on the Path and in Kaer Morhen Jaskier didn’t want to leave without a wolf by his side.

Lambert was the first home, he didn’t even pause in time for Vesemir to warn him, the stench of sickness filled the keep and he sprinted to their room. He pulled up in the doorway dropping his swords and bundling Jaskier’s frail body into his arms. The tears were already falling freely from his wolf as he took long shuddering breaths from his neck. 

“How long,” Lambert asked, Jaskier was unsure if he meant since he’d known or, well.

He just held the wolf tighter, not long now, he just had to wait for his pack to all come home. 

Lambert barely left his side, he told him stories of this year, of his favourite hunts, of his favourite times with Jaskier. They kissed a lot when Jaskier was able to, drank deeply, bathed often and Jaskier felt a sense of calm come over him that had been lost in the previous months.

Eskel was next, his actions mirrored his brother’s except he didn’t bother to remove his swords before Jaskier was in his big strong arms. Eskel held his tears, not wanting to scare Jaskier, but even his strong bear couldn’t hold back when wrapped in Jaskier’s arms that night. Jaskier started to remind him of all the adventures they’d had together. When Eskel finally let go the sounds of his sobs filled the keep.

Lambert attended to the winter chores to give Eskel the alone time he’d been given before his arrival.

Eskel sang for Jaskier, his baritone drifting through the keep only halting when Jaskier’s coughs took hold. Then he would hold his bard close trying to ease him through the episode. Eskel would massage Jaskier’s weary back and chest, the pain sometimes too much even for the strong potions Triss had left for him. He wished every night for just one more day and sent prayers on the winds that Geralt would arrive soon.

Geralt arrived four days later. He stood at the entrance to Kaer Morhen, Vesemir was there to greet him but his brothers were not. He smelt it as he entered, his eyes seeking out Vesemir’s, seeking answers and finding none that satisfied him. Geralt didn’t run to their room, in fact, he didn’t move at all. He knew Jaskier was waiting for him, knew it in his very core, and couldn’t bring himself to be the one that brought death upon their doorstep.

He crumpled to his knees, hands palm up in supplication, a prayer on his lips to all the gods he did not believe in. It was Eskel that got through to him. “Brother, he’s in pain.” The words cut Geralt deeper than any other in the past. It was him, again, he always brought pain to those he loved.

Eskel picked him up under the arms, pulling him into a kiss. “This isn’t your fault.”

Jaskier’s face broke into a huge smile when Geralt walked into their room, he was having a good day, the coughs only troubling him when he lay down. Jaskier was sitting back against Lambert’s chest while reading a rather scandalous poem.

Jaskier held his arms out to Geralt, running a thumb over his brow to wipe away his frown. Geralt got to his knees and lay his head in Jaskier’s lap, not speaking, barely breathing. He stayed that way for hours, his bard running gnarled fingers through his hair and down his neck, soothing his wolf.

Lambert and Eskel left them alone the next day, Jaskier giving them a weary smile as they promised to be within ear’s reach if, well, they never did say it. 

Geralt was the quietest of his wolves, some things never change. Jaskier let Geralt hold him, perhaps tighter than was comfortable but now Jaskier was never without pain and the feeling of his White Wolf purring against his back was worth any amount of discomfort he should feel.

When the pack came back at dusk with tankards of mead and warm roast meats and vegetables, they enjoyed a meal together, his wolves laughing and joking with each other as they shared memories of their winters, of their times as a pack.

When the food was gone and the drinks empty Jaskier had them gather close. “My time has come, dear hearts.” He whispered. He took up each wolf in turn, kissing them deeply, tracing his fingers over their hearts. When he had taken each wolf into himself and pushed a part of his soul into them he asked Lambert to fetch Vesemir.

The old wolf bowed deeply at the door, “It’s been an honour, little lark.” Vesemir took a seat at the foot of the bed. Eskel sat at Jaskier’s back, Geralt tucked under both the bards and Eskel’s arm, Lambert lay with his head in Jaskier’s lap.

“My life has been a hell of an adventure, and as the poets of old say after all death is but the next great adventure.” He smiled at his pack and pulled the black vial from his pocket. Uncorking it with his teeth he held it up, “I will be waiting at the gates of the afterlife for you my wolves. Be sure to make me wait a very long time.” He choked down a sob before he pushed the vial between his lips and leaned his head back.

Cradled between his wolves Jaskier closed his eyes, a smile on his lips as he drifted off on his next great adventure.

Jaskier was given a Witcher’s funeral, his pyre stacked high and burned all day and all night. His wolves didn’t leave until Jaskier was returned to dust.  

In the great hall, Jaskier’s lute was hung amongst the swords of the Witchers of old. 

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