#AND THIS DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE STUFF ON PHILS CHANNEL
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I'm sorry but can we talk about how it's been 55 VIDEOS ON DAN AND PHIL GAMES since the hiatus has lifted???
#yes i just counted them#no i can't believe theyve made so many#or that it got lifted 5 months back#time isnt real#AND THIS DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE STUFF ON PHILS CHANNEL#OR DAN AND PHIL CRAFTS#55 WHOLE VIDEOS#dan and phil#dnp#dan howell#phil lester#dapg#dan and phil games#dan and phil crafts#dapc
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In relation to the "Quackity was losing money from the qsmp!!!" point that people bring up in defence of him, like... tbh in my opinion quackity probably could have made quite a bit of money in subs and donos if he ever actually... streamed on his server.....
Via twitchtracker from march 2023 to march 2024 (this is the timeline i use for all numbers/averages in this unless otherwise stated, also i use 1 year for emphasis sometimes even when meaning 13 months, start of march last year to end of march this year) The highest amount of subs quackity (on his main channel, quackitytoo's subs stats arent available) has received within a month (ie. subcount at end of month) is 2.7k in august 2023, with quite a few months dipping below 1k, and the lowest being just over 500 in july 2023 (Though he also only streamed once in the entire month, so this is understandable), coming to an average of 1.6k subs/month. While his average viewer count across those 13 months was about 35.1K, with a high of just under 65k average in august 2023, and a low of 22k average in january. (This is across all categories of game/just chatting)
Only 48 of quackity's main channel streams (67 total if im not miscounting) in that time were under the category minecraft (71%), with over half of them being in the first 4 months of qsmp (really mostly the first 3 months because it started in late march). With only 13 streams in the category in the latter half of 2023, and 8 in 2024.
To compare, ill use badboyhalo as an example: (Im using him because the vast majority of his streams were qsmp until recently, and i didnt want someone to try and say "but they stream other things!" to discredit this (even though so does quackity), and of the other streamers who have been on the qsmp since the start either a) They "stream other stuff" (ie. not qsmp, including other minecraft like phil's hardcore) often so it "wouldnt count", b) Their subs arent tracked on twitchtracker (its opt-in), or c) They stopped playing on the server/very very rarely play on the server so i cant accurately compare the full timeline. I could have probably also used foolish but bbh came to mind first (And his sub stats weirdly stop tracking in october 2023? I assume because that's when he changed his twitch channel name?))
Bbh's highest number of subs in a month was may 2023 with 4k, with his lowest being just under 400 in march 2023 (only 4 streams that month, so again this is understandable), across march'23-march'24, he got an average of 1.8k subs/month. To compare viewers, bbh's average viewcount across those 13 months was 3.7k (nearly 10 times lower than quackity), with his lowest being 1.7k average viewers in march 2024, and highest being 6k average viewers in september 2023. (again across all categories)
(Im not counting by hand all the times he's streamed in the category minecraft, but seeing as its nearly daily its over 300)
Of course, you could use the argument "Bbh streams every day for so long!", and like... Yeah. He does. In the past 13 months bbh has streamed for 2.1k hours. Quackity has streamed 106. One hundred and six hours. Quackity has streamed on his main channel less in a year than bbh streams in one month (avg 163 hours/month if anyone's wondering). And yet their average subs/month are only about 200 apart. No wonder hes apparently too broke to pay his employees fairly.
At time of sending this ask quackity has 6.3 million followers on twitch, bbh has 2.6 million. They have a drastic difference in followers and viewcount, and yet their subcounts are still so shockingly close to eachother.
If quackity needed money to pay for server costs or to pay his employees that badly he definitely could have made more by doing his job streaming more consistently. He doesn't even need to do it as much or as often as bbh does, seeing as hes already very close to bbh in average subs/month on his main channel with his incredibly low number of streams.
And again none of this factors in quackity's streams on his second channel, where he streams more often and for longer, because twitchtracker doesnt track that channel's subcount (again, it's opt-in) so i cant factor that in to how much he hypothetically makes. But as for the other stats on quackitytoo: 35.7k avg viewers, 168 total hours streamed (13 hrs/month), 65 streams in the category minecraft (march 23rd-now, though i might be off by a couple, my brain is fried for numbers at this point), and 4.6 million followers. Based on this, he most likely has a similar or higher amount of subs than his main channel on that one.
And this entire thing doesn't factor in donations at all seeing as that is a 3rd party thing and not something twitchtracker tracks.
Sidenote about the "in the category minecraft" thing: twitchtracker will include a stream in the category stats even if you forgot to change categories before starting stream playing/doing something else. So there are some "minecraft" streams where the time spent in the category is under 15 minutes, or if a stream crashes and restarts it will count as a separate stream. I still tried to count these to give the most benefit of the doubt
(In case anyone is curious about the foolish stats: (again across all categories, seeing as he does play quite a bit of valorant), viewers avg 6.7k/month, total hours streamed 2.4k, avg 190 hrs/month, subs avg (march-october 2023 because of the lack of tracking afterwards) 6.7k/month, ~250 streams in the category minecraft, and 2.1mil followers. Also, before anyone complains about only using english streamers to compare, the only spanish speaking streamer whos been on qsmp from the start and still logged on consistently through the entire year is roier, and his subs also arent tracked. And none of the other languages were there from the very start.)
Sorry about how long this ask got (i bolded the numbers to make skimming easier for anyone who's not reading all that). I just got so curious about people defending Q by saying how the server running costs meant paying his employees fairly was too expensive that i went to check the actual stats, and i was kinda shocked by how low everything but viewcount was. Of course, I never believed quackity was a "millionare" by any standard, but im also not a viewer of his so i didn't know how much/how often (how little/how rarely*) he actually streamed.
And as a final thing, I have no idea how truly accurate twitchtracker's subcount numbers are (and the wording is a bit confusing on the graphs, which is what i interpreted as "# subs at end of month/subs gained within month" seeing as subs last 30 days (i think?)), as I'm not a streamer and I don't personally subscribe to any streamers. I just know that streamers themselves see it as accurate enough for the "highest current/all-time subcount" records. So i guess that's to say disclaimer: this is all just estimates.
WHAT THE HELL ANON ? Ever thought of having a career in financial/statistical analysis because if not maybe you should consider.
I’ll admit that I don’t know anything about how exactly twitch revenue works so I can’t really make comments on what you just said, but I’ll leave it here for anyone who may be interested in the numbers side of things and this seems like quite the thorough investigation.
I just wanna add that, depending of the societal form of the company, Individual fund may be separated from company funds. Aka Quackity’s money ≠ Qstudios money.
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in 2019, my paternal grandfather died from a brain tumor. he'd been fighting cancer for 5 years at that point. he wasn't exactly young, either– he was 76. He had had a chance to live his life, get married, have children and grandchildren. So it was okay.
That was the rationale I gave myself at the time. He was old, he's lived a full life, he wasn't in pain anymore. so i thought it was okay, that i didn't cry much at his service, for that reason. There wasn't really anything to be sad about.
Sure, I cried when i first saw him in the casket and when they lowered him into his grave. But i wasn't sad. If anything, i was relieved. He wasn't in pain anymore. He could rest now.
My only other experience with death was when my maternal grandmother passed. I was 5 years old. I honestly don't remember her too much, but what very few memories of her I do have I treasure.
I don't think I cried at all at her service. I was too young, I think. I didn't really understand death in the way I do now, as an almost 26 year old.
what i'm feeling for techno right now feels so different. it is this hollow, aching pain. like a part of me has been torn out of my chest.
I teared up when watching the video, cried when i realized he didn't get to meet Tommy, or Niki, or tubbo or ranboo or dream or skeppy or any of his other friends. I sobbed while watching Phil build that monument for him on his hardcore world, which I had been hoping he'd do since the news dropped. i cried even harder reading through the entire document of all the ccs paying their respects for him (there were so many. it took me an hour to get through them all.) I got so angry when I went on YouTube and saw all these fucking clip channels exploiting him and his death. It made me physically sick.
Today is my first day off since the news hit. I'll be on vacation for a couple weeks. Originally, I had planned on finishing a bunch of stuff in my drafts, including that big new years fic i start at the end of last year (it's like 6k words at this point and I'm scared help).
I feel stuck. I want to keep his legacy alive. I want to keep writing for him. I have so many ideas of stories I could tell, reader insert or otherwise. But on the other hand, I feel… odd and out of place, writing a character created by a man who's dead. I know I want to keep going, because that's what he'd want, but I don't know. It's too… hard right now. I can watch his old videos, and look at fanart, but anything more than that is heartbreaking right now.
I promise I'll write him again some day. I want to finish polycule au, the series I've poured my heart and soul into. Right now, i think I'm just gonna… be. I hope Techno doesn't mind if I just exist for a while.
I love you all very much. Thank you for all your support lately, it really means a lot. And I mean that.
#long post#snail talks#cancer cw#death cw#i have a lot of thoughts going on rn i'm sorry#i just miss him and i'm so tired.
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