#AND MAKING FUN OF BAKUDEKU SHIPPERS

[orangerainforest]

that ending just hurt me in a whole new different way

[menuliso]

alright i ranted about this on twitter but lowkey i want to see what people on tumblr have to say bc i havent really seen anyone talk about this. though lowkey someone probably already has.

has anyone else noticed a trend in the bkdk space on tiktok of people really insisting that ‘BakuDeku🧡💚’ and ‘bkdk’ are two completely different things? because i have, and i don’t get it.

according to these people, ‘BakuDeku🧡💚’ is the version of bkdk where people mischaracterise them, sexualise them, and are overall ‘weird’ and ‘cringe’. they think it’s problematic. meanwhile, ‘bkdk’, the one they identify as, is ‘according to canon’ and is the ‘slowburn’, ‘right way of shipping bkdk’ and theyre not ‘weird’ or ‘cringe’.

to me, when people say this, it feels like a way to split the fandom up and appear more likable to dudebros and antis. its an ‘us vs them’, its a ‘we’re better than those weird shippers, we’re normal’ thing. and. it really doesn’t make any sense. absolutely no one has used ‘BakuDeku🧡💚’ as a way to display their preferences or opinions or anything,,, it’s just the extended ship name with an emoji combo. this ‘divide’ doesn’t exist, it was invented solely by the self proclaimed ‘normal bkdks’. and they make SUCH a big deal out of this.

the dudebros aren’t going to like you any better because you ship bkdk in a ‘normal’ way. the antis aren’t going to be kinder to you just because you’re not as ‘weird’ as the rest of us. you are in fandom. fandom is weird. it’s been weird since its conception. by splitting fandom up into categories, you are encouraging negativity to sprout up and you are pressuring yourself and other people to stay in the realm of ‘normal’… aka… making fun of other shippers for not being ‘normal’, or being cringe. or staying in the puritanical mindset that anything involving fictional characters doing anything more than kissing is harmful and bad and apparently super bad morally.

be cringe. be free. no one fucking cares. don’t be scared of other people having silly fandom fun. don’t be scared to have silly fandom fun yourself. once you stop hating, and stop caring about the haters, the internet is so much more enjoyable.

[c4nn1balkiwi]

Just saw a post by an izuchako saying bakudeku shippers ruined the series and that Horikoshi was pressured and threatened into developing Bakugo and their relationship and like.... did we read the same series???? Did we experience the same My Hero Academia????

Their relationship was being developed from the beginning. It started with them, and they were being developed since season ONE. Their relationship and growth was a key part of the series, and it feels like ignoring that isn't truly understanding the complicated themes of growth, heroism, and forgiveness in the series. It feels like you're simply ignoring it for the sake of ignoring it.

Furthermore, Horikoshi has said that Bakugo is his favorite character, so why wouldn't he develop him? Every character changed throughout the series, and that seems to be accepted, but people are so hesitant to accepting that when it comes to Bakugo for some reason.

I've seen tons of people say that Deku shouldn't have forgiven Bakugo like it's their choice who he should or shouldn't forgive. But, this was his experience, and it was his choice who to forgive or not. He chose to forgive Bakugo, but not Shigaraki. Forgiveness is a huge theme in this series, but people ignore it because they don't like it or how it was executed.

The person also stated that the series was ruined because izuchako didn't become canon. The only thing I have to say to that is: what???? The series was ruined for you because your ship didn't become canon? If you've been a part of fandom culture for a while, you should know that ships becoming canon means little to nothing to most fans. Because shipping isn't about it being canon or if they blush at each other or not. It's about having fun and making little what-ifs, and maybe you shouldn't be interacting with fandom if you can't accept that.

I don't care what you ship or what you do as long as it's legal, but respect goes both ways and I'm running out of a lot of it for parts of this fandom.

[whomstdosthouthinkiis]

my two cents on Horikoshi's end notes, and the fandom moving forward.

I know that other bakudekus and myself are #Going Through It™️and we want to be able to wash our hands of an ending we don't feel gives us emotional closure, especially when it comes to Kacchan's arc and their relationship. (I vacillate between seeing it as bittersweet with tints of hope and heartrendingly depressing and an absolute gut punch)

But I feel like a lot of us are jumping to conclusions and conspiracies way too quickly. When Hori says "he's turning off the camera and releasing them from their dramas" he's saying that he's not going to put them through another story. "their dramas" being the trials and tribulation and arcs that they went through over the course of the series, he's letting them off the hook and won't be putting another arc in the story. And, though he may refer to himself as the camera man, turning off the camera is just kinda a normal phrase to mean that the story is over, what ever happens now is up to our imaginations.

Now, I get why we are upset by this, ignoring canon wasn't how we got to be bakudeku shippers. Almost until the very end with very few hiccups, Kacchan and Deku's relationship was the most impactful and compelling one in the series, it grew and changed and blossomed in ways that only made the emotional resonance and investment stronger. They were each others most important person, to the point of insane unhinged acts of devotion, and their relationship was the driver of most of the stories major themes. it's not hard to see the appeal, even without shipper goggles (I legitimately only read the manga for the last 2 years when something bakugo or bakudeku related happened, that's how much this part of the story compelled me)

So, it really sucks to feel like we've been let down, when it felt like we had already made it to the end. I know I will always cherish those 5 months of canon compliant fluffy bakudeku fics and fanart after the first ending. It really felt like we had won in a way.

It sucks that now the last piece of canon we have is giving ammo to people who wish to belittle, hate, and judge us for our investment in, and interpretation of, these characters and this story. And, that all subsequent fan works will be colored by this development of the story, in a way that definitely shifts it in more angsty tragic direction. that this is the final note we leave off on sucks, even if we chose to ignore it, because not everyone will.

That sucks.

BUT, we can still ignore it.

We don't need it to not really be canon.

We don't need Horikoshi's permission to ship them, even now.

We have 400+ chapters of manga, side stories, anime, music, canon content that supports the bond and relationship that we love and hold dear, so much material to continue to interpret, and remix, and adapt, and transform from. so many moments, big and small, that can't be taken away by one chapter.

I know endings tend to re-contextualize things, but we can imagine a timeline that's different, that we like better or think is more compelling, or more fun, or just different. we can imagine 100 different timelines, all diverging from different points, filling in different gaps, and making new paths forward.

I know we're all coping, that our hearts are hurting, but I also see so much strength, and resilience, and creative energy, and love.

The cameras aren't rolling anymore.

Now, WE get to decide what the future for these characters will bring.

And I know we'll give them many many good ones

[eyesmadeofpearls]

Since it's not 2020-21 anymore i feel there's one thing i have to say to you all (Prepare for a yap session, and please remember that just because something isn't canon doesn't mean you cant ship it! please, continue to ship as i don't think anyone has a problem with it! :) This is just for people who seriously believe that any of its going to be put into the show and have went as far as harassing horikoshi, so if you find yourself getting angry with my words, then you've probably got a guilty conscious)

The bakudeku shippers who harassed the author and put him under social pressure have completely ruined the series. 🤗

Saying that he "doesn't understand English so he can't be affected by what fans say 🥺" is extremely rude and sooo fucking annoying of you. Of course bro knows English, he kind of has to?? To further my point i think it's pretty well known that the people of Japan are very particular about how others perceive them, they definitely care more than Americans do, that's for sure. To add onto my point above, the social culture over there is extremely lawful and strict, so stepping out of the norm can be scary. Crossing that unspoken line has created problems for people in the past and it's why there's a huge mental health epidemic over there. If you can imagine a handful of people over there harming themselves and becoming shut ins because of that pressure from people in their country, then imagine being a huge artist and show maker in that situation. Except.. It's not just half of Japan who's got their eye on him anymore, it's half of America too now. That is more than 'just' pressure especially when you know how die hard fans can really be.

I firmly believe that in his case he opted not to make any ships canon because he didn't want to anger bakudeku shippers. All of his official art both out of his work career (drawing just for fun) and in his work career (the manga and show) have been set up to ship uraraka and izuku. People seem to have forgotten that although a majority of the show watchers from America are teen girls like me, this show is for teen boys living in Japan because it's shonen. In japan it's also more socially acceptable to be straight and that's why it took so long for gay marriage to be legalized. So no, i don't believe that the horikoshi would be making a boy love anime and manga about teenage heroes in training. Notice how the plot doesn't focus on who he's in love with but it's been very clear he has a crush on uraraka? Yeah, that's what Shonen is. It's more plot than inner life things. It's like dragon ball z. Yeah, goku's got a love interest but guys aren't worried about that. Still, it's cool to see he's got a girlfriend since that's what's inspiring to teen boys i guess. I also dislike fans treatment of "feminine" acting guys. Midoriya isn't feminine, you're just an American and so am i, but at least i know that the way they raise boys over there vs here is wildly different. Our boys are quite frankly super disrespectful, loud, and ignorant as teens. The boys over there have to be respectful, they have to follow the rules, they can't afford to be loud, and their main focus is on being an adult and getting a job. Though i guess their parents strictness no matter how hard they try doesn't stop them from being rowdy after school. It's nothing compared to how guys over here are rowdy though. Because guys over there don't sit in the back of your class making fake moaning noises or begin to flip tables and scream loudly. Think of Midoriya like spiderman, he's just easily flustered, kind, and respectful but not "feminine" or gay.

Also, telling fans they watched the show with their eyes closed just because we acknowledged midoriya wouldn't get with his bully and rival is crazy work.. "He apologized!!'' if a murderer apologized, would you forgive them?? Yeah, he apologized and changed, but that doesn't mean its all okay now. Bro literally told him to jump off a roof, burned the notebook he values the most, and then proceeded to throw it in the water causing all of his time and effort to be practically useless. Not to mention he beat him to the point of real injuries and continued to be a right dick even after "apologizing". (An apology means nothing if you don't actually try to change and be a better person.) And no, insulting someone on purpose isn't romance worthy material. Unless you specify you're joking then you have brain damage for thinking anyone in their right mind would date someone who constantly calls them a nutsack face, an idiot, a dumbass, a loser, pathetic, a nerd, and genuinely believes that you should be below them in every way unless they've got a twisted degrading kink. And also, sacrificing himself for Midoriya is just plot. Everyone at one point has sacrificed themselves for him because he's the main character, the entire point of them trying to fight for him before he does anything is to weaken the enemies so that Midoriya can go in and finish them off after they beat the villains to near death. They all work towards protecting his future and upping his chances to defeat their common enemy and the man who raised villain motivation by creating more of them. (AFO) So yeah, no, it's not romantical at all that Bakugo wants to be heroic and give the only person who can defeat AFO a fighting chance. Midoriya has gotten hurt trying to protect everyone, uraraka included. But now that you know this would you say to my face that he's got feelings for her too? Or all of his friends? No, you wouldn't. Because that's just what a hero does.

Him and uraraka were meant to be a slow build up, people keep saying "well he always blushes!" yeah, but never at other men. It's been only women who can make his face entirely red like that. In japan, anime uses blush for multiple reasons, so you need to learn to read context on why they're blushing and the room.. Shock, a feeling of content, happiness, embarrassment, and romantical feelings can all contribute to blushing. If a guy were to put him in a headlock and bring him close to their chest, he wouldn't blush.. If a girl did it, his entire face would become pink. To clear up the blushing accusations, he blushed at tsu because she asked him to put her down since she was embarrassed, and he got embarrassed too because she didn't want to be held and felt bad for making her feel that way after realizing the implications of the way he held her. He blushed at hatsume because her literal chest was in his face, on top of him. That's called shock and embarrassment which is something you'd feel if a random pretty lady landed on you chest first. The other times with hatsume he never blushes again like he did and they return to speaking terms other than that one time she held his waist but that's for the same reasons as before. Uraraka however has managed to get him to blush with a full face without even doing anything. He called her cute, he said he liked her hair, her outfit, and he's always got to be standing next to her in every official art piece. Tell me when he's ever said anything like that about a man other than "he's so cool"?

Remember that in Japan love is a touchy subject, you're expected to focus on your future first so that you can have all that you need to settle down. A lot of people don't even say i love you until marriage over there, so it's not odd that Midoriya isn't as open about his feelings unlike uraraka. I think it's just common everywhere for guys to not be the first ones to say anything.. When i met a lot of my exes i was always the one to say i love you first and to initiate things, and i think that's just because it makes guys feel better knowing that they're being chased for some reason or it could hurt their social reputation with their friends who'd probably tease them about it. But anyways, when you pay attention to the way they act near each other, things tend to fall in place. Your actions will always speak louder than your words.

[razorblade180]

I do not mean this in any antagonistic way towards Jayvik as a ship in any shape or form but I do find it kind of wild how Arcane could have Jayce “He’s like a brother to me” in a moment of vulnerability and create an entire personal sense of grief and regret for Viktor over Sky’s death that included a brief backstory/letter about her feelings that ends with him killing her again; and yet the Arcane Fandom really just pushed that shit to the side.

Jayvik is cute but like…damn guys. There’s some real tragedy in the way Jayce and Mel ended but I’ve seen takes that devalue the entire dynamic and undermine Mel’s pain cause of it. This isn’t an issue I’ve seen exclusively to the Arcane fandom and I’m a shipping whore myself that is cool with a lot ships as long as someone isn’t being a jerk to others or harmful.

I’m only thinking about this cause my cousin is getting into some shows I recommend and others she’s seen around cause of art. She asked “Are there any deep stories with platonic relationships?” And honestly…I could think of a few but if she looks them up, the internet would tell her otherwise; especially between two guys. 😅💀

It’s kinda funny but also concerning as someone who loves to write. You can be blatant with feelings between characters but if a fandom wants it to be something else, it will. Once again, all for the fun and I participate a bit, but it also makes you wonder how many people genuinely stop acknowledging what’s given before applying headcanons. Case in point, certain BakuDeku shippers.

I want more world wide media literacy for Christmas.

[epickiya722]

Honestly, seeing something like "the apology scene would be better if the shippers stop looking at through shipping lens" is funny to me for several reasons.

For one, don't worry about how other people are seeing the apology scene, don't let what others say ruin that scene for you. Don't like, ignore them. So freaking easy, oh my gosh!! So effortless!!

Second, oh please! Don't act like you never seen your favorite ship on screen and had your shipping goggles on. We all have done it, stop it. You are no better going "I only see the scene as platonic" or whatever. Stop!

It's crazy to me a lot of you don't want BakuDeku's to be shippers. Oh, but you can see your ship on screen and make it about them, right? Okay, alright. You can have all the cute little banners and write fics and draw fanart, but forbid BakuDeku shippers from doing the same.

Third, it's not like the shippers are seeing the apology scene as just a romantic scene. Many, hell, ALL the BkDk shippers see that scene as Bakugou's growth as a character. They were one of the first in the fandom to point out this scene as a moment of Bakugou developing into a better version of himself. BakuDeku's (and other Bakugou fans) constantly have to defend his character because so many of you don't know how to distant yourself from the space you hate and can't help but to harass people over Bakugou. We get it! You don't like Bakugou or BakuDeku! Whoopee! What you want, a cookie?

I get the feeling that some of you who are now only going "It's not a romantic scene, it's showing Bakugou's character development" because you're an anti and you're switching up.

Be honest, don't act like you're not the same person who is anti Bakugou who refused to see his development before, because he been had his development starting, and only NOW want to say something because you also hate BkDk and looking for another opportunity to bash on it. I bet some of you will still go back to hating Bakugou.

You don't want BkDk shippers to have their fun, you don't. Otherwise, you wouldn't care about how they viewed the scene.

I literally had someone bring up BakuDeku on a post that had nothing to do with the ship. Could have easily said "I enjoyed the episode", but they had to bring up BakuDeku even though they didn't like it. Just shut up! Talk about the episode itself! You only did that to be an asshole. That's the shit some of you be doing.

[grimalkinmessor]

Salty Ask!! :D 2 (DN), 5 (any fandom), & 13 (L! I'm curious if you have any)

*backflips* Hello hello hello! :D

2. Are there any popular fandom OTPs you only BroTP?

No, actually! It's been quite the opposite for the DN fandom; I see lots of BroTPs that I turn into full ships. Terraito being first and foremost 🙏

5. Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?

OH yeah, absolutely. Mostly because of asshole antis always touting their "superior" holy ship against our barbaric "inferior" ship lmao like after a while the whole thing just gets tainted with drama. I can't see a kiribaku post without rolling my eyes, aND I THOUGHT THEY WERE CUTE AT FIRST. I was getting the same way with bakudeku too because of how shitty the shippers started being to other shippers, namely my fellow shigadekus, and bakudeku was my first OTP in that fandom!! They got REAL uppity and it drives me insane because they now do the same shit to other people that antis used to do to us. They get just as bad as the kiribaku nuts now istg. I faded out of the bigger part of the fandom before it got to the point of total abandonment though lol.

...Damn I guess I needed to rant about that >^> But yes! Yes it has! :D

13. Unpopular opinion about XXX character (L)?

I have several of them about L! The main thing of which would be that that man is the most whorish virgin alive. He has absolutely NO rizz and his version of flirting is intricate infuriating mind games—a foolish misstep from his supposed beau might very well be cause for him to grow instantly bored of them. He thinks people are gross and too emotional he has NEVER touched another human being's genitals except for his own, and he doesn't even like doing that. Even when he IS interested enough to put in the effort, the effort is fumbling. NO idea what he's doing. But he's very eager to learn, and quickly at that ;3 He makes up for his lack of experience by being utterly shameless, laying himself out on tables naked and covered in whip cream, saying the most off the wall horny shit you've ever heard that would makes pornstars blush in horror, chasing after what he wants like a dog and not letting up until he gets that pretty pillow to hump. Learning on the go is very useful for when you finally catch your prey in an inconvenient place 🙏

The second biggest one is a two-parter ✌️ The first part being that I don't think he gives a shit about the Wammy Kids. No familial or even fond feelings for those brats whatsoever, maybe a sense of irritation if anything. Tiny pawns in the wings if he ever needs them. The second part being that if he did give a shit about any of them it would be Mello, and still not,,,in a fond or familial way. More of a 'better keep an eye on that one because he's leaning a lot towards the grayer side of the morality scale which is a lot like me but also a lot like someone whose name starts with B and ends with eyondbirthday so lets not do that again mkay thanks' way ✨

I also think that he'd be more fun if he was completely evil but that's just me 💅

[numberoneredriotfan]

I cannot BREATHE in this fandom omfg. Dudebros making fun of bakudeku shippers because izuocha is canon now apparently (still really upset about getting spoiled). Can we not just. Be nice to each other. Please.

[lingy910y]

Weekly Tag Wednesday

thanks @energievie, @mybrainismelted, @deedala & @mmmichyyy for the tags! 😁😌💖 these questions are long but fun

1. which character from any media would you like to have as a father? I KNOW i said i don't think ian and mick would be that good as parents but screw it, i want ian to be my dad 😌

2. if money, laws, time, and effort were no object, what animal would you want to have? i still wouldn’t bc i would like them to be free instead of living with me. even if it’s effortless there’s still a lot of responsibility that comes with taking care of another thing but if there was an ethical way, i want a teacup dog

3. what is your chinese takeout order? i eat chinese food on a daily basis so there’s so much i like but fried ramen or yaki udon (ik it’s japanese but chinese restaurants have them) and wonton. or shrimp rice rolls, i have them every saturday bc they’re my fav food

4. what’s your favorite emoji? 💀 in terms of most used. it’s the superior way to laugh

5. would you rather have a library, greenhouse, or home theater in your house? oooooh library

6. what childhood tv show do you think of the most fondly? my little pony 🦄 my little pony🦄 ahh ahh AHH AHH (i still like it)

7. what was your tumblr like when you first joined? bakudeku stuff and kinda cringey posts like "reblog if you don't want to have bad luck" and bad jokes

8. what clothing style do you love but don't feel compelled to replicate yourself? the cutesy kind like oversized sweaters and leg warmers

9. if you were plopped into a fictional world, which one would you know the layout of the best? genshin, even tho i did so bad on its geoguesser parody LOL

10. what is your favorite piece of art? the question didn't specify the type of art, so i'll say this person's fanart is up there: https://x.com/Tarokunnnn/status/1235139944525504513?s=20

11. do you have a water bottle? yes, it's coral-colored and insulated from zojirushi

12. what fanfic trope is a fanfic fave? ...cheating? if it's one half of the ship cheating on the other person with someone else. the fics aren't my fav bc it's ooc (most of the time) but like i've said before i like angsty drama lmao

13. do you carry a daily bag? what does it look like? what’s the weirdest thing in it? yeah my backpack that's preppy with pink and tan colors. weirdest things are post-its i still keep from compliments my classmates gave me on my english projects during gallery walks where we have to write down "glows and grows" for others (it's not weird but i had to write smth shh)

14. if you had to ship mickey with another gallagher, who would it be? lip is the least weird option bc debbie, carl, and liam have a way too big age gap with him and they look up to him. that leaves fiona but she's also a girl 😭 and i know i just said cheating is fun to read and it could just be an au but lickey makes me mad AKDJASF (no hate to the shippers) i'm thinking way too hard abt this let's just go with frank

15. what is a fanfic trope you didn’t expect to like and then very much did? historical aus :0c i said i don't really like aus but maybe it's cause i already like history

16. do you think s11 mickey can still carry s11 ian? yeah he's still buff as fuck

17. who got custody of the killing bat when they sold the house? they did not go through with selling the house <3 but if they do i see carl and mickey fighting for it LOL

tagging @heymrspatel, @softmick, @krystallouwho, @michellemisfit, @jademickian, @iansw0rld & @juliakayyy

[haleigh-sloth]

It’s bakudeku vs izuocha but also just people being upset about ochako given way more attention than the rest of the class even tho her role is at the very end of the arc. So the controversy is both shippers and people who don’t like how it portrays character roles

Ohhh duh

I should have guessed that, Izuocha completely slipped my mind.

I’ll be honest, anybody actually convinced that BkDk will be a thing has managed to detach themselves from canon to an impressive extent. Also from the genre in general….lol.

I am so sorry to say but Ochacko is the canon love interest.

Bakugo is, objectively, not. He is not a love interest. There is no romantic context in his interactions with Izuku. There just isn’t. Of course if you ship it then you can work with canon to twist it to fit the ship! I mean that’s the point of ships, they’re fun and you play off of canon. But that’s fanon, not like, what’s actually on screen.

The ship wars between fanon ships are one thing, but between a fanon ship and an objectively, romantically implied pair makes me scratch my head.

Idk what to say about the character roles. I’ve seen Ochacko hate rise because people wanted Iida to have more in the OP. And like, I get that. It’s personal preference. But imo it shouldn’t be “Should Ochacko have gotten the screen time”, because she literally closed down the villain hunt arc. It isn’t out of nowhere to give her screen time and focus.

She also is carrying a significant portion of the final arc currently, with Toga yes, but it’s still her involvement. Iida has a wonderful moment in this arc, and he will get it. Bakugo too. But Iida really doesn’t hold as much weight in the following arc, and anyone who tries to argue that Bakugo doesn’t get screentime or focus in stuff is just wrong.

This is just a weird debate imo.

[bootlickerhawks]

bakudeku? kacchako? izuocha?

Don’t Ship It : Bakudeku

Why don’t you ship it?

Their relationship never compelled me tbh. And the behavior of the more radical and vocal Bakugou/bkdk stans has turned me off the ship entirely.

What would have made you like it?

Their relationship reminds me too much of the toxic relationship I had with my so called friends in middle school so I don't think there's anything I could change abt them without taking away what makes this ship unique.

Despite not shipping it, do you have anything positive to say about it?

Despite my personal issues with the ship I could always understand why people would ship them. They have an interesting interpersonal conflict and they play an important role in each other's character development. Plus on an aesthetic level their designs and personalities are complimentary and make for good fanart/fanfic.

Ship It : Kacchako

What made you ship it?

This is the ship that got me into bnha lmao (more specifically saisai-chan's metas abt them got me into bnha)

and like 90% of the kacchako fandom I got into it because of the Sport's Festival Arc 😂

What are your favorite things about the ship?

Their personalities clash in a really fun way and I like that Ochako doesn't take any of his shit and even called him out on it. Plus I think they'd make a great team and I love meself some battle/power couple vibes 😤

Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship?

I haven't read a kacchako fic in years but the trend of having Katsuki be Endeavor 2.0 and wanting to make babies with Ochako for eugenics reasons was fucking nasty.

Portraying them in a very cishet way is also another ick of mine (tho that one is common to most m/f ships)

Ship It : Izuocha

What made you ship it?

I'm not a super big shipper but I think they're really cute together ^^

I like that they have the vibe of friends first romance partners second. A lot of shounen m/f ships focus so much on the romantic aspect (*cough* the girl pining for the guy *cough*) that they neglect the friendship/platonic bond. I have a hard time getting invested in ships if I feel like they couldn't just hang out, have fun and crack jokes together.

What are your favorite things about the ship?

I like how supportive they are of each other. I especially loved their convo abt Toga and Shigaraki and Ochako standing up for him when he came back to UA (even if her speech was pretty cheesy lmao but I forgive it)

Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship?

I don't think it's an unpopular opinion to say that I wish we'd seen more content of them hanging out and bonding.

Ig my unpopular opinion is that I think it's kinda unfair to compare it to naruhina/sasusaku/ichihime or whatever other underdeveloped romance you want to compare it to. Like, yeah Hori could have done a better job at writing their romance but for the most part I'm okay with the way it's handled right now.

I think at most we'll get the implication that they're together in the future and possibly we'll see Ochako confess at the end of this arc.

[fwu-ffy]

Typing my random thoughts till I get bored:

I genuinely hate bait accs. I get that being one is fun and all, but some of them go way too far. Also, why do so many ppl hate Ed Sheeran? What did he do? Bcuz I genuinely can't find anything. I'm not even a fan of his but even I think some of these ppl are being way too rude. Sometimes when I get a hyperfocus, I talk about it so much that I start feeling awkward bringing it up bcuz I feel like ppl are getting annoyed w me talking about it sm, so even me even mentioning said topic will feel like a thousand tiny cameras are pointed at me. I should watch Wednesday. I keep seeing content everywhere and I feel like I'm missing out. I got Omori for Christmas and I really need to play it. I also got Doki Doki Literature Club and I've already gotten 1 ending. I think that Pinterest is on of the most xenogender supportive platforms I've been on. Everywhere I go on there I see people that either use or support them and it's really nice. Of course, not everyone uses or supports them, but it still is more supportive than other platforms I've used. I really hate the dsmp members. I like Ranboo and BadBoyHalo, but other than that everyone is garbage. I still listen to Wilburs music bcuz I like it, but he's done some pretty messed up stuff too. I adore the storyline and stuff, but unless I really need to watch their content, I just watch EvanMcGaming to keep up on the lore. I hate doing lineart. It's so time consuming and annoying. Plus I need to make sure it matches the sketch. I LOVE coloring and shading though. I'm craving pizza rn. Like, I actually will die if I don't get some. And a cheese burger. That sounds so good. Using 🤪 or 🥶 isn't cringey as long as you're doing it ironically imo. I joke about among us a lot and now I can't tell if it's ironically or not. Taking a Benadryl and passing out feels so good. I remember one time I took one and all I remember is talking about giraffes and bananas and then passing out. Apparently I was just spouting random nonsense. I want to get a TBH plushie at some point. I hate people that think that anxiety disorders aren't a neurodivergency. Living in constant fear and worry is not normal. There's anxiety caused by stress, and then there is an anxiety disorder. which is, in fact, neurodivergent. Anything that strays from the neurotypical is neurodivergent. That's the exact definition. I loathe bakudeku shippers with every inch of my body. They genuinely have -10000 braincells. Anyways, I'm tired of typing now :p Peace ✌️

[millimim]

Take your pick~💖🌹

[abilusanji]

1. They do not hate each other but even if they did, they've shown their loyalty and their abilities to fight alongside each other time and time again. A major memorable early zosan moment is them in the Davy back fight where they are arguing and fighting with each other, and then agree to kick ass together for a few seconds.

2. We know they don't hate each other even outside of actions because Sanji talks to most men rudely. We see in his backstory that the cooks talk to each other like that, it's how they show care. Zoro is also harsh and kinda blunt, but shows he cares thru actions.

3. Sanji likes women a lot, this is true. And shippers love to make him bi or to get over his internalized homophobia as a result. It's an easy plot that you can write 1000 times, and it's only emphasized by supplemental materials + canon where it's shown Sanji gains a lot of male admirers lmao.

4. Zoro does like swords, this is true. There are many headcanons of him being ace, aro, autistic with a special interest due to this. None of this preclude him from being shipped! Ive written grayace!Zoro/Sanji before. It's a lot of fun.

5. Shonen rivals have a history of being shipped. Goku/Vegeta, Narusasu, Bakudeku, etc. this is a Shonen shipping tale as old as time. You don't have to like it, but you can't deny that folks often like these ships because of the way they clash. They're not looking for perfect harmony, they want the harmony that rises from the chaos. The only way zosan is notable here is that oda chose to make the Shonen rivalry not be with the protagonist.

Can someone explain why so many people ship Zoro and Sanji? I mean, it's not even practical. First of all, they hate each other. Second of all, Zoro's sexuality is swords, and Sanji's type is anything female, slightly attractive, and breathing. So again, they are not compatible. Plus, I'm convinced they're both virgins. There is no way either one has banged

Defend Your Blurbo #45

Please remember this post is about curiosity and genuine fandom discourse. Be kind with your answers because this is not a debate essay, this is a discussion between fans

Meets Sanji and Zoro from One Piece. They're probably the most popular ship from One Piece. Now, canonically, they do have a rivalry and argue constantly. However, that might be part of the appeal

I want to add an edit. Because I don't think they actually hate each other but they do hate each other in the same way me and my brother hate each other. I would give him my kidney, but I would shank him if he tried to make me share the last cookie with him.

Now One Piece fandom defend your blurbos

[eri-cheri]

Now that we have reached the last chapter of the year. It is time to do a 2020 roll call of what I like to call, “State of the Shippers”:

1. IzuOcha. Status: Placated.

-IzuOcha’s could celebrate several cute tidbits throughout the year. Mini moments as they say.

Anime Highlights: The OVA’s came in clutch with moments for shippers all around and IzuOcha is no exception. We got a cute tidbit where Izuku and Ochako bumped into each other and were flustered.

Manga Highlights: Christmas kept on giving to this fandom as the AM doll Izuku gave Ochako made many appearances. A cute fist bump between the two was also exchanged and Mina was right there bouncing with y’all.

Heroes Rising: Izuku super man carried Ochako to safety. And was Angy she was injured. Fans could enjoy the small Lois Lane moment.

Troubling Signs?: Ochako said “I would like to be excluded from this narrative” when it comes to her feelings for Deku. She’s a hero damnit! So if they are in for something, probably won’t be while they are still in school.

II. DabiHawks. Status: Yikes.

- Dabi and Hawk’s very public breakup set this fandom in disarray but also kind of disayay?

Anime Highlights: None yet. This fandom was cruelly cock blocked by Bones. Sorry DabiHawks stans.

Manga Highlights: Where to begin, my goodness. With these fans, I guess the good and the bad is a plus in this homoerotic double agent relationship. We have the notion that Dabi may have known Hawks when they were kids, which may be a positive? Hori sure loves his childhood friends. Other than that. The GIRLS WERE FIGHTIN’. Hawks is now permanently scarred by Dabi and I don’t think it was kinky folks. Tokoyami inserted himself in the middle to White Knight Hawks, Dabi broke up with him via YT expose and overall, shippers could anguish in the absolute MESS that this ship endured this year. But I’m sure that’s part of the appeal. So...yay?

Heroes Rising: They were both in it.

Troubling Signs?: The entire relationship is a troubling sign which again, is part of the appeal. Maybe Hawks will cuddle up with Dabi’s father after the war. That’s troubling! Speaking of...

III. EndHawks. Status: Yearning and Burning.

-If there’s one thing Endeavor couldn’t stop worrying about, it was his hot (in more ways than one) new side piece who probably should have looked at the fine print when signing a contract to be a recurring guest star on “Keeping up with the Todoroki’s”.

Anime Highlights: A fateful meeting finally in high definition for all our eyes to see! Hawks’s unwavering support of his biggest hero was endearing to watch and their shenanigans together spurred the anime onlies to finally jump on the biggest May-December ship in the series.

Manga Highlights: Endeavor’s admiration and concern for Hawks seeped through the pages as we entered our most exciting arc in the manga yet. Fate split these two up yet entwined their downfall together. And that Fate’s name was Dabi...or should I say ⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️ or should I just say Touya!

Heroes Rising: “Don’t bite my head off, Endeavor.” Geez, can you flirt a little less loud Hawks?

Troubling Signs?: They say never meet your heroes and Hawks is in for a rude awakening. We shall see just how deep his admiration runs or if Endeavor’s past will split our dynamic duo up for good.

IV: TodoDeku. Status: “Precious”

-Shoto’s “Midoriya is in Danger” radar was highlighted in both manga and anime. 4th User’s quirk, who?

Anime Highlights: “Midoriya hasn’t returned yet.” “Where’s Midoriya?” “Midoriya! Grab my hand!” “Have some of my Soba Midoriya.” Shoto gets it. His emotional support friend is a danger magnet. TodoDeku’s also enjoyed tiny tidbits in the OVA such as a hand grabbing scene. Gotta hold tight to those crumbs.

Manga Highlights: Two Words. “Precious Friend.” Deku comes in w/o arms or legs fighting for Shoto and Shoto’s honor. These two spent the entire year worried sick about each other, and going against all odds to save each other. Precious Friends indeed. TDDK fans ate.

Heroes Rising: Shoto kicks some dog ass and then faints thinking of Deku (and Bakugo but shh. Let the shippers rejoice.) On the bright side, we have a 3rd movie coming featuring “The Three Musketeers” so shippers of TdDk can HOLD TIGHT to what’s to come.

Troubling Signs?: Shoto still doesn’t know about OFA and he’s gonna have LOTS of questions after this arc. Will Deku finally tell him? If not, it could make or break the ship.

V. TodoBaku. Status: “Shining through the city with a little funk and soul.”

-Who knew the greatest comedy duo we needed was Shoto and his hot headed “friend” or not friend? It still remains unclear to Shoto. Regardless, these two had a fun year.

Anime Highlights: “I wanna see your cute face”, disco dancing, and more fun in the provisional license training. Plus the OVA added some cute moments between the two such as Bakugo staying behind to save Todoroki during a dangerous excercise and his adorable plan neatly animated for us. I’d say TodoBaku’s really were resurgent and energized this year!

Manga Highlights: Shoto, that is not how you properly Catch a Kacchan, I’m sorry. But at least you did it you mad lad. As with Deku, Shoto spent the year worried sick about Bakugo. While the anime let us have our fun, these two were suffering in the manga.

Heroes Rising: Again, Shoto put a dog down and then fainted with Bakugo on his mind (and Deku but we ignore that. Shush.) TodoBaku’s have the 3rd movie to look forward to which is bound to have some amazing content!

Troubling Signs?: They have a lot of trauma to deal with. And a lot of Deku to worry about. I also imagine Shoto will be hurt about being left out of the OFA secret. We shall see what 2021 has to offer.

VI. KiriMina. Status: Unbreakable.

-Changing your hairstyle to match the gal who inspired you in middle school? Sorry y’all but if Mina were a guy, I’d say that’s gay af.

Anime Highlights: We got that backstory Bois. Red Riot’s origin might as well make him be called Pink Riot. Again with Hori and the childhood friends though I wouldn’t exactly call them friends. They just went to the same middle school but Kirishima was highly influenced by Mina’s Chivalrous spirit! A ship is born!

Manga Highlights: The influence is mutual! Mina creates a move based on Kirishima’s unbreakable and we all let out a collective “awwww”. Also in the war arc, we got Kirishima making sure Mina’s chivalrous spirit shines through right into Gigantomachia’s mouth! KiriMina may just be the unsung MVP’s of this arc.

Heroes Rising: They were in it.

Troubling Signs?: I can’t think of a single one. KiriMina’s can enjoy a peaceful sailing.

VII: KiriBaku. Status: Crumb Collectors.

-2020 was an uneventful year for KiriBaku but Bones made sure there were crumbs aplenty! Thank God for OVA’s!

Anime Highlights: KiriBaku’s did thrive in one episode! Kirishima reflects on the sludge incident and evolves his quirk based on inspiring words from Bakugo! Hooray! KiriBaku’s can thrive in their blossoming friendship. The OVA also has Kirishima (and Kaminari but shh) once again following Bakugo’s lead when it comes to the training excercise. How can you not? He’s so manly!

Manga Highlights: Not gonna lie. There is nothing much here this year. I did find a teeny tiny flake in Aizawa’s flashback. Kirishima and Bakugo are sitting next to each other. Oh! And at the hot pot gathering, Bakugo sits next to Kirishima! Eat your crumbs KiriBaku’s! There’s always next year!

Heroes Rising: Kirishima hangs with a lazy Bakugo and delivers the most hilarious line in the whole movie. “Silly Bakugo, there won’t be villains here!” Hahah... Silly Bakugo. Oh you~ KiriBaku’s can inhale the fact that those two sure love to hover around each other!

Troubling Signs?: With great crumbs come little responsiblity. No trouble if there’s no content! 🤔

VIII: KamiJirou. Status: Singing their hearts out 🎶

-If there’s any ship that’s coming close to canonization, I think this is it, folks! “Think of the person most important to you!” Can’t argue with Midnight!

Anime Highlights: Kaminari does non stop encouraging of Jirou and her hobbies! He works super hard to learn guitar for her sake! We love a king who can encourage his queen!

Manga Highlights: Kaminari thinks of the most important person to him and surprise! It’s Jirou! All of the feels can commence.

Heroes Rising: They were in it!

Troubling Signs?: Kaminari does love his women. And men. Kaminari overall is a huge flirt. But Jirou appears to have his heart strings. ❤️

IX: BakuDeku. Status: Rising. 👑

-Alternative Statuses include Winning, Thriving, Soaring. It’s just been non stop content this year. 2020 is truly the year for BakuDeku. The shippers can rejoice.

Anime Highlights: Three words. Be. My. Cane. The OVA’s helped fan the flames of the BkDk hearts with a surprise! Deku tops! Not only that, we got a lovely shoulder tap of encouragement in the canon material. While in season 4, Deku’s primary focus was Eri. Bakugo and Deku still had their moments to be hella gay.

Manga Highlights: Where do I even begin? I guess we’ll just cut to the chase with Bakugo Katsuki: Rising. We finally saw Bakugo’s true feelings manifest for Deku and if getting stabbed for him isn’t the ultimate showing of love, then idk what is. BakuDeku’s rounded out the year with the Volume 29 cover AND the volume 29 cover drafts to eat at our heart strings. Overall, their relationship got the spotlight in the manga this year. And we’re bound to start 2021 with a dramatic confrontation. Hand holding seems to be the key with these two and it didn’t stop with Heroes Rising...speaking of.

Heroes Rising: The entire movie. Like....yeah. That’s it. [OP, your bias is showing. You have to be SPECIFIC.] {But random criticizer in my head, if I lay out the entire plot of the movie, my post will be too long} [OP....] UGHHHH Okay okay. The POPSICLE MELTING. THE HAND HOLDING. THE CHARACTER DESIGNS OF WHAT MIGHT AS WELL BE THEIR LOVE CHILDREN. Did I mention? “It’s fine if it’s you?” CAUSE YEAH. Oh and All Might randomly officiating their wedding in their heads like idk. Isn’t it just simpler if I say the whole movie??!

Troubling Signs?: Well these two’s relationship is extremely delicate and while it has non stop soared this year, Deku might not take too kindly to Bakugo almost dying for him. Will they stop pushing each other away? Time will tell.

That’s all for this year folks! Happy Shipping and good luck to everyone next year!