#ALSO BABY COLIN ROBINSON

[shippy-from-apocalypse]

I know what we do in The shadows has a Very "back to the status quo" energy but by god please PLEASE bring back The marwa storyline i am begging i am on my knees that can Not be the end of her and nandor still has one or two wishes left correct?

[anerstellae]

Colin finally getting a kiss on his bald head and nobody’s talking about it? Come on guys…

[theshriekingsisterhood]

The way I SPRINTED to my computer to make this the second Risky showed me this textpost

[terriblegam2r]

Can we bring up the fact that Laszlo, up until this point, has never been interested in Guillermo (that wasn't out of boredom, necessity or putting him down - I'm talking genuine interest (and dare I say slight concern?) in him), or literally anything he had to say or what he did throughout the day. Not even once. But here Laszlo is, constantly bringing up the topic of Guillermo's seemingly odd behavior to the other vampires - also showcasing that he's paid enough attention to him to where he can recognize that Guillermo's not acting like his usual~ self. I also noticed that Laszlo praised Guillermo's familiar duties (has he ever complimented him before? Idts) and proclaimed to Nandor on his own that he agreed with Guillermo that Nandor was using hypnosis too much. He even said "Ah! There he is." to himself when Guillermo showed up after he and Nandor met up with Nadja after they got out of jail, meaning that he was still thinking of Guillermo even when he was hanging out with Sean and Nandor and after all the crazy excitement that happened that night. And in the end it turned out that he kind of was concerned about Guillermo because he told him he pretty much thought he had a bad stomach ache and wanted to tell him to be careful about what he eats. Aww.

I think Laszlo co-parenting with Guillermo towards baby Colin Robinson last season sparked an interest (and respect) in Guillermo, and I love finally seeing their relationship develop, and I look forward to seeing them bond more this season (even if it is baby steps lol But in a way it's the total opposite because Laszlo has never talked about/to Guillermo this much in one season before, much less the series as a whole, and I am loving every second of it).

[sharkbath]

People aren’t talking enough about Colin Robinson remembering bits and pieces about Laszlo raising him like…I’m still so heartbroken over him not remembering but this is a start cuz Laszlo loved him so much like GUYS

[sallyrhubarb]

4.01

[scullys-scalpel]

WWDITS 4.01

They were wild for this 😂

[honestlywhyamibackhere]

I think part of the reason Lazlo was so in tune with Guillermo and him acting off at the start of season 5 was because of how they both raised Colin Robinson in season 4. I know we always talk about the bond between Lazlo and baby Colin, but I hardly ever see people mention how Guillermo was also a parent to baby Colin and had almost as big of a part in raising him as Lazlo. When I was rewatching season 4, I noticed that Lazlo and Guillermo would often discuss what to do and work with each other to help Colin, especially episode 10 where they're struggling with him growing up. This was the season I noticed the start of a change in how he treats Guillermo (same with Nadja after their year in London, and Nandor with the power dynamics balancing out). The whole situation with baby Colin is probably what made Lazlo realise he also cares and values Guillermo

This is just something I realised and wanted to have a quick rant about before the chaos of the season 5 finale (I'm not ready)

[emptyspaaace]

My even hotter take is that the what we do in the shadows fandom treats the vampires and vampirism in much the same way that a certain brand of dudebro treats bojack horseman or rick Sanchez. Yes they are relatable but you are not supposed to idolise them or use them to justify your own behaviour you’re supposed to think they’re arrogant unselfaware and have arrested development brought on by the fact that the idiots cannot die no matter how stupid they are. Guillermo is the only competent one amongst them BECAUSE he is not a vampire, he is the only one who suffers consequences for his actions, ergo he is the only one who learns from his mistakes. Becoming a vampire would take that away from him. Nandor needs to improve to be with Guillermo, Guillermo does not need to stoop to Nandors level

[sickgraymeat]

They’re the same picture

[thepunkmuppet]

laszlo fucking lied.

remembering for a second that season 5 takes place straight after season 4, laszlo is clearly grieving baby colin and using guillermo as a distraction. it is NOT a coincidence that in this episode colin mentioned dreaming about his time as baby colin and just happened to make a joke about dads and sons (using buzzwords like “boy” and “act” as well).

I think not being able to fix guillermo and, to a lesser extent, (from his perspective) having to kill guillermo’s “babies” sent laszlo into a downward spiral and he was genuinely semi-catatonic. he’s said and shown that he struggles with emotional stuff many times, and actually feeling those emotions and thinking those thoughts and having to actually confront them would definitely do weird things to him.

another thing we know about laszlo is that he is a really good liar. when he snapped out of it, saying “THAT’S IT!” he 1000% made up the book thing on the fly. but it worked because he was genuinely happy again! his distraction is back in business!!

I think he either figured out why guillermo is the way he is, how to turn him fully into a vampire, or how to turn him human again. and the colin robinson thing will build over the next two episodes, with the two still avoiding each other until the finale is an emotional confrontation between laszlo and colin about their time together, and nandor and guillermo about… well, you know.

anyway yeah matt berry is a fucking good actor and I know this is a comedy but that was not “figuring out how to alphabetise my books” that was “grappling with raising and losing a son who now doesn’t remember me but I have to live with him every day and also the not-coping mechanism I’ve found to distract myself from my pain has stopped working and also I am a centuries old vampire who cannot deal with crushing human emotions”. or you know something like that

[ahogettena]

assigning wwdits characters furbies based on their personality/vibes because i love being cringe.

nandor- 2005 "fiesta" emoto-tronic furby

i genuinely have no explanation for this one. vibes i guess. it's more so about how i view the emoto-tronic furby as an era of furby than their actual personality really.

laszlo- 1998 gen. 7 "red wolf" furby

he'd absolutely be an original 1998 furby so i just picked one that had like. vibes to it

nadja- 2012 "punky pink" furby

could be controversial but she's definitely one of the more "modern" furbies. probably not a furby boom though. the 2012 furbies just have a vibe about them that i think would fit her. also she's a girlboss (or at least attempts to be) and come on if this isn't the girl-bossiest looking furby there is.

the guide- unproduced 1998 gen. 10 "snowy owl" furby

yeah. yeahhhhhhhhh

colin robinson- 1998 "human" furby prototype

they just have the same uncanny energy. also the outfit. there's also a chance he'd be one of those delightfully freaky 2005 baby furbies.

guillermo- 2002 "toad" shelby

do i even have to explain why he'd be a shelby. also the colours i mean just look at these two images side-by-side.

[salan-d-er]

No you don't understand, Laszlo had such a bad father figure but, he still managed to raise baby Colin Robinson and he still is so very protective of him. That he told the adult Colin Robinson words he also needed to hear that his father cared for him. AND THE FACT that he still does care about Colin Robinson NO YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND

[nandorisms]

I know we are going to be moving onto season 6 for WWDITS, but mentally, I'm still in season 4. We just ate so much that season.

Like...

1. Nandor felt so lost and lonely that he returned to the last place he felt at home (which was not Staten Island, but makes total sense considering how he must've felt after Guillermo abandoned him at the train station)

2. Nandor brings up how he misses Guillermo (though it was in a context about cleaning, I think we've all learned to read between the lines whenever Nandor says something like this)

3. Nandor is genuinely surprised to see Guillermo when he is freed from the crate (meaning that Nandor had likely thought he had left like all the other times)

4. When Guillermo points his finger and says, "you're dead to me," and Nandor responds with "what the fuck did I do?" (This further solidifies the idea of Nandor having the mindset of being a scorned bride left at the altar, with him being the one that had suffered, and that Guillermo was the one who left)

5. Nandor defends Guillermo when Laszlo and Nadja tease him

6. Nandor, with absolutely zero hesitation, jumps straight into the open floor to grab and save Guillermo as soon as he falls into the hole

7. Nandor gives Guillermo a robe (likely stolen from the hotel he stayed at while traveling) and proceeds to dry his hair with a towel (also likely stolen)

8. Nandor gets Guillermo a glass of water (it's sewage water, but he's a 750 yr old vampire, I don't think he understands what clean water is anymore)

9. Nandor admits to feeling disrespected about being left at the train station alone (again with the scorned bride left at the altar schtick) before subtly manipulating him to stay/very sneakily trying to find if Guillermo is still in love with him, he brings up this whole scheme about needing Guillermo to be his bestman and help him find a bride

10. Then, Nandor is surprised and overly-nonchalant when he realizes that Guillermo isn't jealous and is actually happy for him (it's that little confused head tilt and dejected, "oh, okay" that really sells it for me, also that overly chipper "great," and tight smile when Guillermo says he will "accept this great honour" like bitch...I see you 👀)

11. Nandor trying to find a partner right away because he's lonely (👀 insert, I know what you are meme, here)

12. Nandor acting as Guillermo's voice while Guillermo is pissed at Laszlo and Nadja

13. Nandor immediately stopping his laughter after he sees that it has upset Guillermo (wouldn't want to risk pissing him off after just getting reunited and missing him the entire time you were apart, would you, Nandor?)

14. Nandor immediately going along with Guillermo's idea and grabbing a pen and paper to write down baby Colin Robinson's answer.

15. Nandor looking to Guillermo for help to rob Fort Knox and then Henry Ford (it's very telling of who he trusts, although one could say it's because Guillermo is familiar, I believe personally that Nandor trusts him after all of his help capturing the sire)

16. Guillermo being the only one to ask and genuinely be interested in Nandor'a travels back home and even going further by asking why it hadn't been a happy trip for him (unlike Laszlo and Nadja)

And this is just episode 1 of season 4.

The rest of the season has so, so, so much more.

[gimmiesophiebaek]

Season Four: What Do We Know

Returning: Luke Thompson (Benedict, lead), Claudia Jessie (Eloise), Hannah Dodd (Francesca), Will Tilston (Gregory), Florence Hunt (Hyacinth), Ruth Gemmell (Violet), Victor Alli (John), Adjoa Andoh (Lady Danbury), Masali Baduza (Michaela), Golda Rosheuvel (Queen Charlotte), Hugh Sachs (Brimsley), Emma Naomi (Alice), Martins Imhangbe (Will), Daniel Francis (Marcus), Jonathan Bailey (Anthony), Simone Ashley (Kate), Luke Newton (Colin), Nicola Coughlan (Penelope), Polly Walker (Portia), Lorraine Ashbourne (Mrs. Varley), Geraldine Alexander (Mrs. Wilson), Julie Andrews (voice of Lady Whistledown)

Status unknown: Chris Fulton (Phillip), Jessica Madsen (Cressida), Kathryn Drysdale (Genevieve)

Joining: Yerin Ha (Sophie, lead), Katie Leung (Araminta), Michelle Mao (Rosamund), Isabella Wei (Posy), Susan Brown (Mrs. Crabtree), Gracie McGonigal (maid), Summer Knox (debutant), Sachin K. Sharma (Louis), Pablo Diska (“Pretty boy”), David Anthony Barr (“Demimonde Man”)

Rumored/Unconfirmed: Elena Saurel (Miss O), Yoyo Chan (undetermined), Arthur Lee (Richard), Chloe Park (young Sophie), unnamed baby Edmund and unnamed baby Lord Featherington

Shonda Rimes: EP

Besty Beers: EP

Julie Ann Robinson: EP

Chris Van Dusen: Creator and EP emeritus

Jess Bronwell: Showrunner

Kris Bowers: Composer

Tom Verica: Director

Jaffar Mahmood: Director (rumored)

Possible flashbacks of Sophie’s childhood: There are two actors who follow each other on IG that could be playing the Penwood (Arthur Lee) and young Sophie (Chloe Park: please do not repost her social media). Rumored young Sophie also follows Shondaland and Bridgerton IGs.   

Sophie "Baek" background. Sophie has a Korean last name but we don't know if that's from her mother or something her dad made up. His last name was Gun (as far as I understand, also a Korean last name), but her stepsisters' last name is Chinese (Li).

Masquerade: Most likely in E1 because it's the season's first ball. It's the place where “attendees are encouraged to transform into whomever they choose”.

It seems that Benedict arrives late to the masquerade ball.

Benophie dance lesson is switched from the terrace to inside a gazebo. One of Sophie's gloves is *involved*. We still don't know how but probably as in the book (i.e. Cinderella's shoe). Sophie's dress is regency style. Benedict's costume is all black or dark brown.

Lake scene. Since both Yerin and Luke have already talked about this I think it's safe to say it will be the big talking point in the season's promo with the Masquerade.

There will be a Xiangqi game, a popular Chinese board game.

Benedict's bachelor place: Confirmed thanks to the designer's mood boards on Pinterest).

Kilmartin Estate in Scotland will also be featured (also from the designer's mood boards in Pinterest).

Both Li sisters will debut at the same time.

Rosamund is vain and Araminta's favorite. She tries to win Benedict, who is "the ton’s most eligible (if totally reluctant) bachelor".

Posy is kinder, chatty, overly friendly and socially embarrassing. According to Wei, Posy goes “on a nice journey” throughout the season. 

Leung: Araminta is fabulous, discerning, blunt and does "not respond well when anything -or anyone- threatens her standing in society". She is a "mother-slash-villain" and would “never call her evil because I adore her – I think she’s absolutely fabulous. She’s just heavily misunderstood”. She is also "feeling the pressure to get at least one of her girls married of" and “chemes to marry off one… to Benedict Bridgerton”.

Leung said Araminta’s costumes “are something else”.

Eloise, Francesca and John return to London, specifically to Bridgerton house.

According to Andoh, there is a garden party in E1 or E2. Not sure if Danbury is hosting that party.

The Demimonde is back. We have seen the Demimonde in Granville's parties in S1.

The story most likely begins in spring (social season's time) but there will be a time jump to autumn. There are leaked photos of the Bridgerton house with changing seasons. In an interview, Brownell mentioned how this will “open the Bridgerton world: this could mean the autumn, the countryside or the working class with a main character (or all three at the same time).”

Benedict will begin the season "aimless" and "loveless". Despite "his elder and younger brothers both being happily married, [he] is loathe to settle down"

Benedict’s fluidity will be explored.

Sophie doesn't know how to dance.

Ha: Sophie "craves and yearns for love despite all of her trauma and neglect". She is "a victim of tragic circumstances" and "has trouble trusting others". She has "been forced to work as a maid for one of the most demanding employers in the ton… [but] her resourcefulness helps her persevere".

Thompson: Benedict is "a man of many interests, and that’s great in some ways, and in some ways, though, can betray a sense of being lost or a little bit restless. And that goes quite deep… There is clearly something in him that’s not very comfortable, a bit scared or a bit worried about the idea of really committing to something. And that’s partly the struggle".

Sophie's decision to disguise herself in order to attend the masquerade will be "risky". This probably means they are following the part of the book where Araminta throws her out into the street after the ball.

We'll see a "shift" in Benedict when he meets a "mysterious lady in silver". He will "find himself on the hunt for Sophie".

Sophie is not "like the debutantes that usually populate Bridgerton". There is a "sincerity of her face".

Love at first sight trope confirmed: Sophie's decision also means that "both lives [hers and Benedicts] are forever changed" after the ball. Ha described it as "prismatic… when the light comes in and then it goes into a rainbow".

Ha: The season will be an "emotional tug of war, this kind of push and pull between what their hearts desire and what society desires for them".

Thompson: Also a "struggle between a proper old-school fairy tale -the romance of it- and the actual reality of the world… both are true. You have to hold both of them -the romance and the reality- in your hand. In its best version, 'true love' happens in the middle of that".

Sophie will struggle with her own mask because of the "battle of social status" or when she is "trying to hide her feelings from Benedict".

Upper and lower class trope: Confirmed. Ha: "It is the first time we really see the upper and lower class come together this season… My character is someone who constantly has her guard up. She… is always reminded of her place and doesn’t dream of more than her station as a maid. However, she is human after all, and craves that human-to-human love and connection. And it’s not until she meets Benedict that she slowly lets her guard down, bit by bit, and starts to create space to let love flow in for her."

Thank you to Mado_93 on Reddit for gathering all this info and allowing me to bring this over to Tumblr!

[sallyrhubarb]

"can you read me something from one of your real books about real stuff?"