#ACOTAR thoughts

[msbrownwithacrown]

So I reread UTM scenes.

The only time she gets slightly internally annoyed/accusatory of Tamlin is when Rhysand walks in on them, and Tamlin takes Rhysands advice and walks away... begrudgingly but for her protection.

So in crazy retcon world, we have her in acomaf saying she's mad at Tam for not doing more for her UTM, and in combining that phrase with the the previously mentioned scene, she's mad at him for not standing up to Rhysand.

Wait wait. Let me try this. Humor me.

"I'm mad at Tamlin for not fighting the male I'm currently with, Rhysand, while UTM. but I'm not mad at Rhysand for giving Tamlin a Reason to defend me." ...

I'm mad that my fiance didn't fight my kidnapper, and help/defend me from the abuse my kidnapper caused me....but I'm not mad at my kidnapper for causing any of that abuse or for being the reason I'm mad at my fiance for not fighting him. Did I kida sorta get that right?

[creativelydani]

So, everyone thinks Feyre = Mother, Elain = Maiden, Nesta = Crone, right? WRONG.

Well, Feyre DOES = Mother, but I argue that Elain & Nesta should be switched. Why? I’m glad you asked.

NESTA = MAIDEN

was an actual maiden when she went into the Cauldron (notably the only Archeron sister who was still a virgin)

prythian quivered when she was "born" or Made

canonically, the only character who can Make things

persephone, the greek goddess represented the Maiden, is associated with death and destruction as well as life and growth

part of her growth & healing journey was embracing girlhood and expression of self, a reclaiming of things the Maiden is associated with

ELAIN = CRONE

is a Seer, pertains to wisdom and endings (she predicted death but also prevented it with some of her visions)

crone is associated with midday (her mate is Lucien)

associated with nurturing - Elain gardens

Elain must learn to accept change and come to terms with the "death" of her old life, things the Crone is known for representing

hecate is known as the Crone, goddess of witchcraft, ghosts, necromancy, etc

Seers in the Maasverse are first introduced with the Ironteeth witches in TOG, and remain strongly associated with them throughout that series

[1800naveen]

Another opinion cause I'm bored.

People only ship Mor and Emerie because they're one of the canon queer characters.

Yeah, I said it. Sue me.

Yes, Emerie blushed Mor during solstice but she also blushed at Rhysand. And since it's Rhysand, he's so handsome and beautiful and blah.

Blushing at someone doesn't imply they will end up together.

Mor said that Nesta should be tossed in the court of nightmares and to toss her back to the mortal lands.

The court of nightmares where she was heavily abused by her father?

Nesta, who is Emerie's best friend and sister?

And people think Emerie would like her, let alone be with her?

This ship is ASS but do what you wanna do.

Anyways, what about Cressida? That's a good ship.

Remember, this is my opinion, you don't have to agree with it.

[rizzoreads88]

If you love Feyre ending up with Rhysand after he physically emotionally and sexually abused her by todays standards….

If you love Ruhn and Lidia after he straight up shoots her in the leg to stop her from trying to go against someone and protect her sons…

If you love Rowan and Aelin after he literally punched her in the face and told her she was better off dead like her family….

If you love Aedion & Lysandra after she conspired with his cousin to trick him and use him to have babies behind his back if it came down to it and then when he finds out is upset and throws her naked in the snow…

If your ok with ALLLLL of that…don’t go after people who still love Tamlin/Nesta & Chaol. Or people who want Tamlin to get a happy ending too.

If you don’t think it’s problematic for all these other couples to be together after the things they’ve done in the books then you have no right to say anyone’s problematic for wanting another fictional character to get a happy ending too.

& to be clear this is all fictional. I don’t think there is anything wrong loving any of these couples or romance stories because they aren’t real. They take place in a fictional world with different morals/standards ect. I actually love most of these couples too… but you can’t sit here and ignore allllll of this and super problematic themes and romances for all these couples but then judge others who just enjoy different fictional characters/ships.

“But it’s different because SJM put a domestic violence hotline in the books so it’s her intention to make tamlin abusive and no one else”

I can guarentee you if a man ever did to her best friend in real life what rhysand/rowan or 95% of the other men in her series did she would 100% think it’s abuse. It’s even ironic in Hofas rhysand explodes a room in anger towards nesta and it triggers Ember. SJM wrote this but you think she wouldn’t think this is abuse? Come on now.

We all have different triggers and that’s very valid.We all like different characters and ships and that’s very valid. But I am so tired of people excusing allll of this and all these forms of abuse BUT then vilifying and judging anyone who still loves tamlin/nesta/ chaol or anyone who wants tamlin to get a romantic happy ending too after he heals.

If the abuse bothers you then call out ALL abuse. Not just for the characters you don’t like. Or at the very least stop judging people for liking other characters when ALL of these characters would be considered very problematic in real life.

[shittalkingwiththesuriel]

The hottest thing Cassian did In ACOSF wasn’t the headboard scene…

It was when the queen was gonna have him kill Nesta and he decided to kill himself instead

[deathbealady]

to be clear: I hate Mor because she’s not a girl’s girl (though she loves to pretend she is)

I might have considered hating her less if it turned out she was so cruel to Nesta because she was wildly attracted to her and was jealous because she could see how Nesta and Cassian had a thing between them, but she’s clearly just upset at losing the attention of one of the toys she’s had fawning over her for 500 years

[wallflowers-in-the-wind]

If SJM has it revealed that Rhysand was always the villain he was in the beginning and Feyre has a realization of how much he used/abused her I may have to admit that she’s a much better writer than I give her credit for.

The bad guy who pretends to be the soulful sweetheart was putting on an act plot twist I would love to see.

[extremely-judgemental]

Rhys isn't good guy playing bad. He did bad things and sometimes felt bad about it.

Eris technically doesn't do anything wrong. People believe he did. He doesn't deny the rumours and plays along.

Eris is the real good guy playing bad.

[elainsgirl]

Imagine being R4ped, SA and tortured for 50 years. Apart from your family, isolated and alone. Having to put on a mask to make everyone hate you but deep down you’re just trying to survive. Imagine being locked up in a cell deep within a mountain; where you’re tortured, made fun off, mentally and emotionally drained, day by day you’re losing your humanity and eventually you die only to be brought back to life as a strange new being.

Imagine going through all of that hard journey; losing yourself, losing the ones you love, fighting for a chance to be happy and once you finally get your happy ending it’s invalidated. You dont “deserve” it. You’re villainised and hated. Since other characters have gone through “more” trauma or deserve their happy ending more then you deserve yours. Or to make another character seem better, your entire story is undermined. Your trauma minimised compared to theirs.

Idc what this fandom says; Feyre & Rhys went through literal hell. They had to make tough choices and decisions but it was all for the ones they loved. They deserve to be happy & don’t deserve the treatment certain parts of the fandom are giving them.

[lainalit]

RIP Rhys you would have loved making street interview videos where you ask women what they think about feminism

RIP Cassian you would have loved going to the gym and filming a bunch of homoerotic tiktoks with your gym bros

RIP Azriel you would have loved Sims 2 emo machinimas with my Immortal playing in the background

RIP Tamlin you would have loved going to Anime conventions and walk behind cosplayers while playing the theme songs on your violin

RIP Eris you would have loved going to dog parks and instigate drama between dog owners

RIP Lucien you would have loved fishing with a bunch of middle-aged dads and trying to make them laugh with dad jokes

[harperbrynne]

Lucien asking Eris to show him the magic flames

[msbrownwithacrown]

Characters who have lost their temper and had an unexpected Outburst of magic:

1. Feyre, High Lords Meeting. LoA injured.

2. Tamlin, Study, office destroyed, Feyre injured.

3. Aelin, Nehemiah's death, Chaol injured. (Not a magical outburst but fae blinded rage, yes) .

4. Dorian, in the healers office, Sorscha injured.

5. Bryce, interrogation room, room is ruined. Shielding was required.

Characters who get called abusive because of this:

1. Tamlin.

[wingsdippedingold]

I know there’s stuff about the cauldron being corrupted, but I think it’s a lot deeper than that. I think the entire land of Prythian is corrupted.

The magic chooses MEN to be the rulers, despite the fae acknowledging and worshipping an absolute FEMALE goddess. Irl this would usually correlates to a matriarchal society

I really hope SJM does something with this because as a person who studied theology she knows that (or maybe she is just a bad writer idk 🤷‍♀️)

[1800naveen]

Stop saying Tamlin is boring because he's a vanilla type of guy (in a 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 way)

First of all, him and Feyre banged in the grass after he proposed to her. Many times I believe.

Second of all, he's good at playing the fiddle, meaning he's good with his fingers. And Feyre tells us so (acomaf, chapter 2).

Third of all, he's a nature guy. He could use vines to tie you up or some shit. Nature shibari.

Fourth of all, he's got a beast form. There are some monster fuckers out there so yeah... Do what you will with that.

Fifth of all, he can shapeshift. Himself and others. If you want to experiment, he's down. If you wanted to be shapeshifted into a man, he'll shapeshift into a woman and y'all can go to TOWN. Pull his hair, those luscious locks.

Sixth of all, he's got nice, sharp nails. He'll drag it down your back. Feyre mentions it in Acowar when he drags his nails and Tam smiled. HE A FREAKY GAL.

Seventh of all, he eats pussy like it's his last day on earth. He will make you see heaven again and again and again. AFTER HE BUSTED A NUT IN FEYRE, HE WENT DOWN ON HER. HE ON FREAKY TIME.

Anyways, take care✌🏾

[jinxdancer08]

I can’t wait for Gwyn and Az to exchange friendship bracelets.

That’s it. That’s the post.

[shittalkingwiththesuriel]

I still can’t get over how Mor’s POV in ACOFAS was just collectively forgotten…

Like, she was in the woods and there was a powerful dark entity STALKING HER

And then we get no further information and it’s been like six years

I’ve never heard any one even mention it