#9-1-1 ls spoilers

[shadesofdeviant]

Tarlos Thoughts

I'm honestly struggling to write anything Tarlos related at the moment and I entirely blame season 4.

Listen, I can accept TK and Carlos' flaws, they're human beings not caricatures and I do not expect them to be perfect at all times. Equally I do not suddenly despise one of them when they make mistakes, I want 3-dimensional characters that seem real and flawed, not perfect idols of worship. But my god this season is testing my patience and I'm putting it beneath a read more because I will ramble.

TL:DR I fucking hate miscommunication and Tarlos is looking far too unhealthy in this series. I do not blame this on the characters or the actors. I'm looking at you Tim.

Also, just incase anyone needs it, trigger warning for 2x12, spoiler warning for 4x12 and more importantly a trigger warning for discussions of actions that could be interpreted as abuse.

I got why Carlos was married. I appreciate that he was lost, feeling very much unaccepted and it was during a time at which the idea of marrying another man was little more than a fever dream. So he has this close relationship with his best friend, and honestly if my best friend wasn't already married, she'd be the only one I would ever consider marrying. I Get that.

What I DON'T get though. Is how long it took for him to bring it up to TK.

Listen miscommunication rubs me the wrong way. Whether it's in TV, Movies, Asian Dramas, Fanfiction etc. If I see any form of miscommunication I will back out. I have the tag blacklisted on AO3 because I don't like it and so I choose to avoid it. Because I get feral and just end up screaming "Just fricking talk to each other OMFG!". It's also why I don't watch too many TV shows.

The thing about the marriage that bugs me is that Carlos seemingly had no intention of telling TK. TK proposed, spent weeks, months? (LS timelines elude me sometimes) planning the wedding, visiting venues etc. and not one peep of Carlos telling him or even trying to tell him. Again, I get Carlos is a control freak and tries to fix everything himself and does not like admitting when things are beyond his ability and he is very much captain deflection and does not like to share his own problems ever.

And honestly, with the way TK runs away at the slightest sign of issues within the relationship and explodes like a minefield, it's not explicitly mentioned, but I can very much imagine that this humongous flaw played a part in Carlos keeping the issue to himself. And I will admit I was...surprised...TK was so calm when Carlos admitted he was married, I was fully expecting him to end up back at his Dad's for a few months again.

But it feels very much a disservice to himself and TK for it to get to the point it did. It felt very much like he was hoping to divorce Iris and then marry TK without TK being any the wiser. Which is too much on the side of lying for my comfort.

Especially since we've often seen him trying to get TK to talk to him about things.

Now this discourse about kids.

Again I get it. I do not want kids EVER. I will gladly be the godparent and cool relative who gets them hyped on sugar then give them back with an evil grin.

Carlos' wants for the future sound very much like a "Not yet" rather than a "not ever" and look, the pair of them are still young and haven't been together that long in the grand scheme of things especially considering breakups and comas etc. But how has this conversation never come up before? It's just drama for drama's sake.

But what really really irks me about the entire season....is the jokes about his wife and being married that he just peppers into conversation constantly. How long has it been since the truth was revealed? Are Carlos and Iris even divorced/annulled yet? What part of TK's reaction to the marriage made Carlos think it was okay to joke about it?

Carlos you lied to TK about the marriage, then you seemingly got angry and blamed TK for when Iris disappeared, you then lied again when you told TK you were staying at the hospital overnight. How does any of that equate to TK being okay with you making "my wife" jokes?

Honestly with all this miscommunication drama that the writers/producers are putting in seemingly for the sake of creating drama...all they're doing is making Carlos come across as mean and TK come across as being baby-fied and uwued or whatever the current terminology is.

I wont go as far as to say the way Carlos talks to TK is gaslighting, but its coming very very close with the way he deflects and responds to some of the things TK says (especially in the parental discussion) and how he often seems to trivialise TK being upset. And let me be clear I am blaming poor writing for that, not Carlos as a character or Rafael.

Equally the way TK jumps to "So you're saying you think I'll be a bad father" whilst obviously intended to be a show of his lingering insecurities, could be argued as quite the gaslight as well. And don't get me started on TK's explosive reaction in season 2 or the way he ran away and didn't communicate prior to season 3. Honestly, if I was the one dating either of them, I would have ran for the hills like my name was Owen Strand, months, if not years ago.

STOP GAP FOR A MOMENT.

Just to reiterate. I AM NOT ACCUSING CARLOS OR TK OF BEING ABUSIVE. I am saying that POOR WRITING and a lack of understanding of healthy relationships by TIM and the WRITERS are allowing for actions/words to be interpreted as borderline abusive.

But...honestly Tarlos used to be one of my comfort relationships and it's very much drifting into the typical media territory of never letting the gays be happy. It started at the end of season 2 with how TK reacted to the news Gabriel arrested Owen and it's just been getting worse as the seasons go on.

We're drifting dangerously towards the "bury your gays" trope and I don't care how much reassurance we get from Tim or Ronen etc. that Tarlos is endgame, I'm starting to not believe it, or...dare I say it...want it.

I don't know if I can make it to the end of the season at this rate.

Please bear in mind this is my opinion. If you do not agree with this fine. I will not accept anyone coming at me in my ask box to defend or vilify Carlos or TK for their actions and I am not team TK or team Carlos I have issues with both of them, they both have flaws as characters and are the direct equal cause of issues in their relationship

But finally, I would like to point out this:

Dotted moments of cuteness and lightheartedness do not a healthy relationship make.

[fireladybuckley]

Can anyone that still watches LS give me the quick and dirty about what happened with Marjan?! Why does she feel like she can’t do the job anymore? What the heck happened?? She was one of the few LS characters I loved ☹️

[whattarush]

like mother, like son

[sothisisablog]

“No more 9-1-1 Lone Star and 9-1-1 crossovers because of the network change.” Both Fox and ABC are owned by the same parent company. (It’s The Mouse)

[butternutsquashthesenutz]

Has Tk forgotten the three comas, two kidnappings, I don't even know how many concussions, multiple overdoses, gunshot, two murders, and what ever else I'm missing, plus the fact that he's a paramedic and Carlos is a police officer? Like babe, why are just now worried about death in your relationship?

[janivewe]

EVERYONE LOOK WHAT I'VE FOUND!

Season 2 Ep 18

[rapha-reads]

Us: excited for the Tarlos wedding.

911 Lone Star writers: naaah, first we need more angst in this house. We definitely haven't had enough this season.

For heaven's sake. Was absolutely not expecting that.

[rebel-at-heart713]

9-1-1 Lone Star S4 E15 Donors Spoilers

So in the bar scene I totally saw Grace switch the glass. Of course the gut put it in her drink but when he grabbed the glass to me it seemed he reached too far to grab it. So I actually predicted what was going to happen.

I mean, between Grace making sure she had the same drink plus him reaching further, I rewinded and watched it multiple times and thought, “yeah she totally pulled a ‘Glass Onion’ on him.

[merthurians-prat-and-idiot]

Just caught up with some Tarlos bits and they are making me 💓😭 such phenomenal actors & dialogue too

[cu-sidhe13]

Every time I go online there's another sneakpeak or interview or leak about the new season of 911: LS! How am I meant to get any work done when I constantly hearing about the Tarlos wedding or Carlos' secret!! 😂😂

[whattarush]

tarlos touches in 4x01 ♥

[911-wassup-bby]

I'm not saying that it's funny ... but omg I genuinely think this is the funniest shit I've seen this month

But in all seriousness this feels like it was supposed to happen in season 2

[lesbianevankinard]

Looks like both Molly Green and James Leffler wrote:

S3. Ep 6 The ATX Files

S3. Ep 15 Down To Clown

S4. Ep 1 The New Hotness

S4. Ep 5 Human Resources

S4. Ep 10 Sellouts They were both story editors for Season 1 and 2

"Writers and Directors" are listed on the poster as James, James and Molly

Director is most like James as in James Wong.

Writers seem to be the writing duo from Lone Star of Molly Green and James Leffler

[butternutsquashthesenutz]

I can't watch episode 4 till it airs on Hulu which isn't for another 4 hours. I'm dying here trying to avoid spoilers, I can't wait til 3am

[guardian-angle22]

welcome back! I need your thoughts on all the stuff that happened while you were “out of office”… Spinoff show! All the spoilers about carlos content and Tarlos spicy scenes (breaking a dresser! heehee) this year! are you excited?

Apologies for the late reply since you must've sent this to me back when I first got back from vaca. The show aired and I lost my mind and didn't notice this was sitting there.

Soo... Thoughts on the Spinoff show! I feel like there are two separate spinoff show discussions that have been had by various people and I'm not sure if they're being merged together into one now or not but my thoughts are very different for each.

Spinoff Option #1: 9-1-1 in a different city. This has been in discussion for years by various people. Lone Star was a success, so why not turn it into a franchise like CSI or NCIS with multiple cities? Angela Bassett made a comment about it during a recent Emmy presser saying something along the lines of “people need help in every city”… This is the spinoff that I could see happening regardless of how this season goes but with a brand new cast of characters. I probably would not watch this. I’m not a procedural girlie, this show was an absolute anomaly and I don't know how I got here but it's really just these LS characters I love.

Spinoff Option #2: the “Tarlos” spinoff. This is the one Rashad has spoken about pushing for and Ronen has been hyping up on social media and at cons saying it could possibly happen based on how viewership goes this season. I know some have talked about these as two separate shows but I don’t think that’s the case. I think Rashad talked about it in the context of Carlos’ character and the new ranger because that was the interview/article topic, but I genuinely don’t think there has ever been a discussion of having a Carlos only spinoff without TK. Given the popularity of the pair, from a marketing standpoint it would just be silly to even attempt to have one of the characters headline a show without the other also there. This one I feel like would have to be set in Texas and named something other than 9-1-1. I would absolutely watch... most of it LOL. I don't think I would watch any of the ranger content ngl. which I guess segues into my thoughts on the Carlos content spoilers...

Thoughts on the content spoilers!

The Carlos plots… I don’t really care about if I’m being honest cause I just don’t care about the rangers stuff and the s4 Gabriel murder plot actively makes me angry if I think about it for too long… BUT people are gonna like things I don’t and I’m gonna like things other people don’t. There’s nothing wrong with that as long as no one is a dick about it. and I certainly have no plans to yuck anyone else's yum. so my thoughts are: I hope other people enjoy!

The spoiler I AM insanely excited to see is the infamous furniture breaking sex scene. It just tickles me that they really went so hard they almost broke a toe and some furniture. That's the dedication we get from the Tarlos actors and I appreciate the hell out of it... Although it does not surprise me in the least given 1.02… I MEAN...

[transmothofaman]

Can I hear about your pysch/9-1-1 lone star fic? I love both of those shows so much (but I’m only halfway through s3 of lone star so no spoilers if you can)

UM HELLO?!?! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS ASK!!! I"VE BEEN WANTING TO TALK ABOUT THIS!!!

Okay so basically, I'm thinking that Shawn and TK are related. Probably a second cousins' situation (Henry and Owen are cousins that never really interacted much, being across the country from each other and all, but every now and again there is an extended family gatherings they interact with).

I'm currently only have watched through season 4 of Psych so I don't know where those characters would be during 2024, but in my mind Shawn and Gus are operating Psych on-and-off again, Shawn's gotten kinda jaded with it after all of these years but doesn't know what else to do with his life.

Originally, I was thinking that TK calls Shawn to come over and help with a certain very big mystery at the end of 9-1-1 LS season 4, but after thinking about it I'll probably go with an original case fic where Carlos stresses over a case so much that TK askes for backup. Shawn somehow ropes Gus, Jules, and Lassie to come with (mostly just for funsies, he claimed they all needed a vacation and whatnot but really that's his gang and he needs them). The fire fam would absolutely adore Jules and Gus, I feel like Lassie's had enough of an arc that they'd be chill with him by then too.

It'll definitely be interesting to put comedy characters and drama characters and mush them together. Shawn and Gus' goofiness will absolutely slam any sort of Tarlos/Firefam whump. Judd and Lassie would either kinda get along or annoy each to no end, no in between methinks. Nobody except Owen and probably Judd will get Shawn and Gus' movie reference and it would exasperate them.

I would really like to write this; I'll probably post about it more as it gets developed. Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you for the ask, I'm so glad to be able to talk about two of my favorite shows and combining them.