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espmodeus · 2 years
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The Goetia in Helluva Boss make no sense: A Rope of Sand
Ok I’m new to this whole critique thing and I don’t use tumblr that much but I just wanted to get something off my chest after discovering the Helluva Boss critique tags. Also if I get any demonology wrong I apologize, I’m still new to it !
How exactly do the Ars Goetia work in Helluva Boss?
In reality, the Ars Goetia are 72 fallen angels that rebelled with Lucifer during the War of Heaven. Makes sense right? But Helluva Boss seemed to take a different approach and imply that all of the Goetia are a collective family, or at least some of them are. We know this because Paimon can’t keep track of his children, which would make sense if he had 71 of them - if they’re going this route anyway.
Ok fair enough I guess, I guess I can see how that could come to mind. And I didn’t question it much… Until Paimon and Andrealphus were revealed.
Andrealphus and Paimon, if you didn’t know, are also part of the Ars Goetia alongside Stolas. Paimon is the 9th Spirit of the Ars Goetia and the King of Hell that is most loyal to Lucifer. He is depicted as a pale man with an effeminate face riding a camel. And what is Paimon in Helluva Boss like?
Stolas’s father.
Like why? Is it because he’s the closest to Lucifer, thus making him seem more “powerful” compared to the other Goetia. Is it because he’s the “most recognizable” Goetia because of Genshin Impact and Hereditary? Why is he an owl? Why not just make Stolas’s father an original character?? It would make things so much easier, and not act like a middle finger to people who enjoy Demonology like myself.
And then we have Andrealphus. Andrealphus is the 65th spirit of the Ars Goetia, depicted as a peacock. His design, while not my favorite, is still at least somewhat accurate to his description in the Lesser Key of Solomon. He’s at least implied to be a peacock, even though he hardly looks like one.
So if Andrealphus in Helluva Boss is a part of the Goetia as well, and the Goetia are implied to be a family, are him and Stolas related? Given that Andrealphus is Stella’s brother, does that mean Stolas and Stella are related too? Did Paimon really make his kids marry and make a child together???
Problem is, it would make even less sense if Andrealphus wasn’t a Goetia in Helluva Boss, bc who’s the 65th Spirit going to be ??? I know Helluva Boss has made some really dumb writing decisions, but I don’t think they’d be dumb enough to make an original character for the Goetia just to fill this plot hole right?
The whole thing is just SUPER confusing and I’ve been brooding on this for a while now. The whole show sucks, but I feel like this is something especially bad and wouldn’t have happened if the writers just made it clear outright rather than pussyfooting around bc it’s more “mysterious”.
Personally, if it were me, I wouldn’t make any of the Goetia related at all - or give them parents or whatever. If the Goetia in this universe are nearly on the same power level as the Seven Deadly Sins, why would they need to be born at all? They can simply be created or formed into existence. It makes a lot more sense that way, and doesn’t imply that Octavia is potentially inbred.
I may have missed a few things, but that’s all I have to say. Hopefully I’m not the only one who feels this way, or I at least opened your eyes to how absurd the Goetia are in this show. Feel free to disagree, just be respectful about it.
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scotianostra · 2 years
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Happy 65th Birthday comedian and actor Gordon Kennedy.
Gordon  was born of February 22nd 1958 in Glasgow but grew up in Tranent, East Lothian, he was educated at George Watson’s College in Edinburgh before studying physical education at Jordanhill College, now part of the University of Strathclyde.
I was a big fan of “alternative comedy” when it started to get going in the early 80’s Kennedy first got together with some friends in 1980 making his debut at the Edinburgh festival in 1980 under the name The Bodgers this led on to the channel 4 show Absolutely, with the same prominently Scottish team, he cut his teeth as an extra in several shows like Russ Abbot, Kenny Everett and Les Dennis beforehand.
Since then, his production company, Absolutely Productions, have made Welcome To Strathmuir, the BBC Scotland comedy starring John Gordon Sinclair, and Radio 4 comedy series Baggage with fellow Scots Peter Capaldi and Phyllis Logan. He went on to become more mainstream and was the original co-host of the National Lottery Lottery show on Saturday nights with Anthea Turner.I suppose those that didn’t follow the comedy scene will know Gordon from his time starring a Little John in noughties incarnation of Robin Hood on BBC 1.
If you’re a bit older you might recall him in the fab Glasgow Kiss with Iain Glenn and Sharon Small at the turn of the millennium or a few years later as Sgt. Bruce Hornsby in Red Cap. He was also the narrator in the first series of Ramsay’s Kitchen Nightmares, as well as Mac in oor ain soap River City for 18 months.
Kennedy sent an audition tape for a part Outlander, but missed out, I can’t find out what, if any part he was considered for, he bounced back though appearing in the mini series The Spanish Princess, which just like Outlander is shown on the Starz network in the States, he also appeared in 4 episodes of the British-American period drama  Harlots.
More recently Gordon has appeared in the ITV drama series Grantchester, the Scottish show Crime and the second series of forensic crime drama Traces, alongside Martin Compston  Giordon also turned up in an episode of the Amazon Prime series Mammals last year.
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conandaily2022 · 1 year
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Miss South Africa 2023 predictions: Bryoni Govender, Natasha Joubert, Jordan van der Vyver
The Miss South Africa 2023 coronation ceremony will be held at the SunBet Arena at Time Square in Pretoria, Gauteng, South Africa on August 13, 2023. It is the 65th edition of the national beauty pageant that selects South Africa’s Miss Universe, Miss World and Miss Supranational candidates. On August 13, 2022, Ndavi Nokeri of Tzaneen, Limpopo was crowned Miss South Africa 2022 at the SunBet…
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normanblogs · 3 years
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1-on-1: Miss Universe 2019 and the 65th Universe
1-on-1: Miss Universe 2019 and the 65th Universe
Here is the one-on-one between the still-reigning Miss Universe Zozibini Tunzi and the 65th Miss Universe Iris Mittenaere. Interestingly, both ladies were crowned by our two latest Miss Universe titleholders – Pia Wurtzbach for Iris and Catriona Gray for Zozi.
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paddylast · 7 years
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My 2017 Recap in Beauty Pageants! 2017 has been an eventful year in the world of pageantry from the staging of the 65th Miss Universe pageant in Manila in January up to it's homecoming in Las Vegas last November 26 and ever minor and major pageants in between - it was whirlwind and almost chaotic for both pageant fans and pundits!
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thejackscorner-blog · 8 years
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Final Hot Picks 65th Miss Universe - Final Predictions
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i-cant-sing · 3 years
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You should check out "Miss Netherlands dancing Beyonce on 65th Miss universe" on youtube. Definitely radiates first lady y/n energy. People be having fancams and candid recordings all over youtube about the first lady in the background just doing the cutest things when she thinks no one's watching. A̵n̵d̵ ̵C̵h̵i̵s̵a̵k̵i̵ ̵l̵e̵a̵v̵e̵s̵ ̵a̵ ̵l̵i̵k̵e̵ ̵o̵n̵ ̵e̵v̵e̵r̵y̵ ̵s̵i̵n̵g̵l̵e̵ ̵v̵i̵d̵e̵o̵
YES SHE DOESSSSSS 😭 😭 😭
Omg its so cute, and like I'm just imagining First Lady dancing to her favourite beats behind stage while Kai is giving speeches, and she's doing it front of her Secret Service, and they're all looking at with her awe and even Katsuki has a little smile on his face as you mess up the lip syncing.
You're comfortable around them, and besides no one else is watching you have fun, but of course, someone is always watching. Please, First Lady is the kind of person who could dance to anything, even the microwave's beeping, so imagine everyone surprise as they watch the fancam of First Lady Y/n dancing to Baby Shark and other silly tunes.
And as the First Lady, you often get to go to concerts and meet your favourite singers and bands, and of course you dance your little heart out because you can deal with Kai later if he has a problem with you breaking some etiquette (he doesn't, he loves watching you dance). And you're honestly so lost in your own world that you don't notice the hundreds of cameras that are recording you from every angle.
Of course, you make headlines- positive headlines around the world that First Lady is fun, and young and oh so cool as she dances to Drake and Mitsuki and pretty much all genres. Like don't even be surprised if people end up following your moves and make a TikTok dance out of it- bro, imagine having your own Fortnite skin and dances.
And yes, Kai does watch all the fancams and videos and as much as it infuriates him to see the lustful comments some of your fans leave on them, he can't be mad at them because 1. yes, you are both hot and adorable at the same time and 2. he needs them for making your fancams.
Doesn't mean he doesn't know the user "FirstLadyY/nIWannaUseYourThighsAsEarMuffs9" real name, address, and job tho...
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elennemigo · 3 years
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1st ✧ ´The Power of the Dog´ press conference for the NYFF59, with Benedict Cumberbatch, Jane Campion, Kirsten Dunst, Kodi Smit-McPhee and Ari Wegner. (Full video) (Gallery)
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✧ ´The Power of the Dog´ premiere at the 59th New York Film Festival. (Gallery) (Official clips: x x x + interview)
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✧ Jane Campion and Cast Introduce The Power of the Dog | NYFF59 (Video) (Gallery) (Behind the scenes)
(more clips x x x x x x + interview)
2nd ✧ Jaeger-LeCoultre: Benedict visited The Sound Maker Exhibition in New York. (Clip) (Gallery x x)
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3rd ✧ TPOTD screening at the Paris Theater. (Gallery x x) (Clip)
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10th ✧ “The Electricial Life of Louis Wain” special screening in London. (Gallery) (clips x x x)
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11th ✧ TELOLW new poster.
✧ TPOTD premiere at the 65th BFI London Film Festival. (Gallery x x) 
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Jane Campion introducing TPOTD cast.
Official, press and fans clips: x x x x x x x x x x 
Interviews: Getty Images / On Demand Ent. / Reuters 
12th ✧ TPOTD  Awards/Tastemaker Screening. (Gallery x x)
14th ✧ New promotional pic from Spider-man no way home.
✧ Benedict on Total Magazine.
15th ✧ Benedict and Claire Foy talked about TELOLW with ET Canada. 
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✧ Interview for the Russian talk show Evening Urgant.
✧ New still from TPOTD.
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18th ✧ “Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness” got delayed again. Now is set to release on May 6, 2022.
✧ Benedict in a clip recording for the BBCEarth documentary, Antarctica.
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19th ✧ New stills from TELOLW.
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✧ Clips with Benedict and Claire Foy for The Associated Press. (x x)
✧ Benedict talked about BBC Earth Antarctica.
22nd ✧ Benedict talked about Louis Wain for Amazon Studios.
23rd ✧ New old pics from the behind the scenes featured in the book  “The Story of Marvel Studios: The Making of the Marvel Cinematic Universe”  (Set 1 and Set 2)
25th ✧ Benedict and Claire Foy talked TELOLF with Today.
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26th ✧ Teaser for a new photoshoot with Benedict, for Esquire.
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✧ Benedict talked TELOLW in Live with Kelly and Ryan.
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28th ✧ Benedict Cumberbatch to Play Poisoned KGB Agent Alexander Litvinenko in HBO Limited Series.
30th ✧ Letters Live 2021 at the Royal Albert Hall.
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(More pics x x x x)
                              »»———FIN———-««
Another intense month for Benedict and his agenda!! My apologies if i missed something or if I put something twice, i tried my best to catch up with a month of Benedict content is two days! 
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dflogerzi · 3 years
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A shoutout today
This is for a couple of sisters. I am struggling a bit and you do know it. Do not give up on me. I am including one who will be surprised, I never gave up on you darling one. For any I forgot, it does not mean a thing. I am coming upon my 65th birthday. I outlived my parents both of them by a decade. I love my country and I love most of yours reading this. Okay... special love today...
@itsscentedphantomfan   My gosh... we are twins from different mothers. You have my heart in your hand always.
@skippyv20  You are the funniest friend I ever had. You took me on and gave me the honor of following me. I am just still mad as a hornet at Harry... but you allow it. I want him to heal, I will keep sending that into the universe. 
@sandiedog3  Wow... I choke up whenever I see your name. There is absolutely nothing I can say about how much I love you. What the heck. You are like this ray that comes into my life and fills me with hope. These are dark times. 
Okay.... there are more. I love so many of you. Honorable mentions....coming up.
@ladydianaphotos  my gosh. You keep the flame alive. You put so much love onto your feed. Thank you for caring about Diana. I can still feel her you know. i never forget. 
@helenaaurellia  You have my heart. I love you. I refuse to give up. Dang it all. I learn so much from you and you are an awesome human. Do not give up on me. I want you to never block me and I give you the same. Sisters. Always. 
@the-cat-with-the-emerald-tiara I miss you. You know why.
Folks. I am struggling. We have a world that is falling. I am tired. I will try to come here and give energy to the things I love. If I am gone a bit please remember me. It is just me trying to stay in the days and love what it is for over sixty years I cared for. 
God bless our world.
Onward.. 
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max-crawford · 3 years
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“When the red curtain opens
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Act 1. “Draw the Curtains!”
Maria Lea Carmen Imutan Salonga or more famously known as simply “Lea Salonga” was born on the 22nd of February, 1971 in Ermita, Manila. She was born to her father, Feliciano Genuino Salonga and her mother Ligaya Alcantara Imutan and became a sister to her brother, Gerard Salonga. Mr. Feliciano was a naval rear admiral and a shipping company owner. For her first six years in life, she lived in Angeles City before moving to Manila. She was a kid who loved to sing with dreams bigger than the Earth itself.
Her childhood was already part of the opening act of her life’s play as at the early age of seven, she made her professional debut in the musical “The King and I” in 1978 with Repertory Philippines. A Filipino theater company. After “The King in I”, she managed to secure the title role in her next play “Annie” and acted in the play in 1980. By the age of 10, she was able to record her first album “Small voice” in 1981 and it was well received by the masses as it was certified gold here in the Philippines. She also made left and right appearances in various plays such as “The Fantasticks” and “Paper moon” from 1988 and 1983 respectively. Her early childhood was full of acting and theater as that’s what she loved doing. She was a performer at heart.
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Throughout the 1980s, Lea Salonga was steadily gaining popularity as she was featured in many television projects from GMA radio television arts. She was a child actress at the time and following her first album’s success, she was given an opportunity to host her own television show and this was named “Love, Lea”. Lea also made appearances as a member of the cast for a teen variety show “That’s entertainment” hosted by the late German Moreno. Because of her amazing acting skills and innate talent for it, Lea received multiple awards from FAMAS (Filipino Academy of Movie Arts and Sciences) and Aliw awards. The latter awarded her three times for three consecutive years for being the “Best Child Performer” of 1980, 1981, and 1982. Talk about consistency! 
By 1988, Lea released her second album simply entitled “Lea” and in that same year, she finished her High School Education) at O.B. Montessori Center located at Greenhills, San Juan, Metro Manila. Lea also attended an extension program by the University of the Philippines College of Music that trains musically talented children and teens in Music and stage acting.
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Act 2. “The Opening Act”
At the age of 17 years old, Lea auditioned for the role of the main character in the play “Miss Saigon” named “Kim”. In her audition, Lea chose to sing “Boublil” and “On my Own” by Claude-Michel Schonberg from the play “Les Miserables”. Because of her amazing singing ability, she was asked by the audition panel to sing “Sun and Moon” which impressed them. At the age of 18 in 1989, Lea was picked to play the role of Kim in Miss Saigon’s debut production held in London.
Lea Salonga was able to win the “Laurence Olivier Award for Best Actress in a Musical” in 1990 because of her successful performance as Kim in Miss Saigon. This made her one of the world’s youngest winners of the award which was a feat on its own. Also in the same year, she performed a homecoming concert in Manila named “A Miss Called Lea. In the following year, Lea won multiple awards from Theater World, Outer Critics Circle and Drama Desk from playing the same role in Miss Saigon’s play on Broadway. In the 1992 Disney animated film “Aladdin”, Lea became the singing voice for our beloved Princess Jasmine. In 1993, she achieved yet another feat of becoming the first ever woman of Asian descent to be awarded a “Tony Award”. 
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Act 3. “To The Center Stage!”
 “Les Miserables” has been one of the most well known plays worldwide and in 1993, for the broadway production of the play, Salonga played the role of “Eponine”, the daughter of the Thenardiers. When the 65th Annual Academy Awards happened in Los Angeles in the same year, Lea performed as Jasmine in the song “A Whole New World” along with Brad Kane. In the awards show, the song won a deserving, Golden Globe Award! With the help of Atlantic Records, Lea was able to release her self-titled international debut album. In 1994, she was able to partake in multiple musical theater plays in the countries Singapore and Philippines. She took the roles of the witch in “Into the Woods” and Sandy in “Grease” to mention. 
By 1995, Lea Salonga went back to the US to bring to life the role of an 18-year-old Vietnamese American adopted child named “Geri Riordan” in the television film “Redwood Curtain”. She proved herself to be still a busy woman as at the same year, she went back to the Philippines to act in the film “Sana Maulit Muli” along with Ariel Aquino Mulach or more famously known as Aga Mulach. Through this film, she was able to get her second FAMAS nomination as “Best Actress”. 1995 was also the 10th anniversary of Les Miserables and so, Lea flew all the way back to London to play Eponine in “Les Miserables: The dream cast concert” held at the prestigious Royal Albert Hall.
1997 was the year when Lea Salonga started making recordings and she started that off with her album entitled “I’d like to teach the world sing”. This album was well received by the Filipino people as the album reached gold sales in the Philippines. This album was then followed by the 1998 album “Lea…In heart” and the 2000 album “By heart”. These two albums were able to reach Platinum sales multiple times in the Philippines. 
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In 1998, she again collaborated with Disney and became the voice of the Disney animated film character “Mulan” and the singing voice of the same character in the film sequel “Mulan II” in 2004. Lea moved to New York City, USA where she purchased her apartment at the age of 28 and owned it until 2013. In the same year, Lea participated and performed at a tribute concert held for Cameron Mackintosh entitled “Hey, Mr. Producer: The musical world of Cameron Mackintosh.” By the years 1999 and 2000, Lea played the role of “Sonia Walsk” in the “They’re playing our song” musical.
Throughout the years of 2000 to 2003, Lea Salonga continued on making multiple appearances in various kinds of platforms from TV shows, musical and nonmusical theaters, and films which led to her appearances in multiple awards shows as well. By the 10th of January, 2004, she married the love of her life Mr. Robert Charles Chien whom she met in “Flower Drum Song”. The same year, she also performed her all-Filipino concerts entitled ”Songs from Home” which made her win the “Entertainer of the year” award from Aliw awards.
Act 4. “The Climax”
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2005 was the year when Lea Salonga reached international status as she started to tour the world. She conducted her first US concert tour and in the same year, she managed to perform to a sold-out crowd at Carnegie Hall. Because of her international ventures, Lea was awarded with a “Golden Artist” award from FAMAS. In 2006, she performed for the closing ceremony of the 15th Asian Games held in Doha, Qatar with the song “Triumph of the one” at the Khalifa Stadium.
Lea then proceeded to release her first studio album in 2007 entitled “Inspired” which gained popularity and got platinum sales in the Philippines. She was also awarded by the former president Gloria Arroyo with the “Order of Lakandula” for using her abilities to the benefit of the Philippines and its people. Lea made more appearances on the theater scene with the return of Les Miserables, Broadway on Broadway, Stars in the alley, and more.
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By 2008, she became a columnist for the Philippine Daily inquirer. She wrote her column “Introducing: Lea Salonga, writer” and from then on, started writing more and more columns. Lea went on to do singing performances throughout 2009 with her appearance in the 95th anniversary special of Iglesia ni Cristo singing the song “Bayan ko” and the concerts “Lea Salonga…Your songs” for the 20 years of “Miss Saigon”.
Following her singing performances, Lea made an appearance as a celebrity judge for the show “Avon Voices”. Speaking of being a judge, she also became one of the judges to sit on the judges panel of the 60th Miss Universe 2011 held in Sao Paulo, Brazil which happened at the 20th of September, 2011
Lea Salonga continued on making more concert appearances as in 2013, she was part of the Lincoln Center’s American Songbook Concert Series. She also played as a mother in the concert performance of “Ragtime”. In the same year, she started her concert tour in the Philippines “Lea Salonga: Playlist” which was done to celebrate her 35 years of hardwork and dedication in show business. 
By 2014, she went back to making judge appearances to “The Voice” and “The Voice kids”. Throughout 2014, she continued touring around the world with multiple concerts. She made an American television appearance in 2016 with “Crazy-Ex Girlfriend” and another for the international premiere of “Fun Home” as Helen Bechdel in Manila.
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Act 5. “The Curtain Call”
Lea Salonga’s career has been going smoothly even until the present. With her steady amount of appearances in the theater scene for the past 4 years, it proves that Lea has made her mark in the theater scene as a whole which she worked hard for since age seven. She’s currently living with her family and has a daughter named Nicole Chien. This year, Lea is planning to embark on another world tour on the 6th of April, 2022 entitled “Dream Again” which will start in North America. 
To many theater kids, Lea Salonga is one of the many theater actors and actresses that these kids can look up to. She’s the perfect example of one who’s passionate about their dreams whatever it may be. Once a small town girl, now one of the big names of show business, Lea Salonga is a woman of passion, pure talent, and dedication to her craft. A true performer.
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También me gusta charlar contigo <3
La verdad fue porque el estilo de trabajo (cambios de horas y la rutina de 15 días trabajo y 15 descanso, que es como se empieza) no creo que me haga bien como mentalmente (los turnos de práctica en medicina también son malos, pero son malos de una forma en la que estoy "más acostumbrado" como desvelarse la noche y luego levantarse temprano, pero igual es "más rutina" (no sé si me explico bien)
...pensé que iba a ser más fácil viajar así AJSJSJDJDJ el titulo se escuchaba lindo y soy buena para las matemáticas
aaaah, si es como pedir, pero es como que, I need to take 4 tests and if I'm among the 65th best scores then I get in ? so I meant psotular as in asking for the university to let me in
es que eres muy amable, los alumnos deben ser muy afortunados ajjjajajajja
<3
for the choices now akdaksjd switching to gringo brain
", they did a pretty good job with representation in ILITW" yes I miss the few times when they actually went for it than just, the most boring white male li and the second most (customizable but still written very much as a white male) li, and I think the Noah's death is/was a very important part of the narrative
!!!! wow I need to check it out
I love Michelle but also I'm genuinely happy I haven't met any student like her because she terrifies me /positive
AJAJJAJAJAJAJAJJ why all are your names like this, like how do you not laugh when you have a serious moment and the li just says something like "asshole" like 0.o ajajjajasjjsjsjdj i'd die
Diego is just so sweet but not in a "uwu" way, just in a way that he wants to be a kind person and a good friend and he is!! and I really like how he just,, wanted a bff <3
are you only replaying es or are you going to play a new book also?
also I think I complained about the hot weather before and how I would die living in there but last week was 43 C and my landlord (landlady ? person who isn't the owner of the building but like is pay to look after the building ? La encargadaTM) told me to not use the air conditioner under 24 :(
no emojis because i wrote this on my compu
La verdad fue porque el estilo de trabajo (cambios de horas y la rutina de 15 días trabajo y 15 descanso, que es como se empieza) no creo que me haga bien como mentalmente (los turnos de práctica en medicina también son malos, pero son malos de una forma en la que estoy "más acostumbrado" como desvelarse la noche y luego levantarse temprano, pero igual es "más rutina" (no sé si me explico bien)
ah, entiendo perfectamente. ese tipo de rutina a mi también me hace daño. en verdad levantarme temprano aún es algo con que no me he acostumbrado completamente pero consigo vivir. cambios de horas me parece muy malo tho, aunque creo que me gustaría 15 días de trabajo y 15 de descanso, al menos son horas iguales de trabajo y de descanso jajaja y normalmente no me molesta trabajar muchos días, pero necesito de vários días de descanso también. pero dale, cada persona es diferente lmao
...pensé que iba a ser más fácil viajar así AJSJSJDJDJ el titulo se escuchaba lindo y soy buena para las matemáticas
jajajajajajajajaja comprehensible. no es mala razón
aaaah, si es como pedir, pero es como que, I need to take 4 tests and if I'm among the 65th best scores then I get in ? so I meant psotular as in asking for the university to let me in
ahhh sí, en brasil lo llamamos vestibular a ese proceso, pero no creo que tengamos algun verbo para describirlo, así que me puse confundido
es que eres muy amable, los alumnos deben ser muy afortunados ajjjajaja
ahh, muchas gracias, me encanta oír eso. en efecto mis alumnos son muy importantes para mí así que intento ser siempre lo más amable posible con ellos, y ser elogiado a ese respeto siempre me encanta mucho jaja
for the choices now akdaksjd switching to gringo brain
lmao crying love the idea that personal stuff is in spanish and fandom stuff is in english. so true tbh
yes I miss the few times when they actually went for it than just, the most boring white male li and the second most (customizable but still written very much as a white male) li
right exactly. generally im just so over the customizable characters. literally no one likes them so idk why pb still insists on this crap. they are always written to be so bland and lacking any sort of backstory because they are a blank slate and it's really hard to actually give a crap about them. pb give us real LIs back again
also is it just me or are the newer choices stories like, severely lacking in non-LI characters? comparing it to stories like ILITW and ES and even like, high school story or the freshman, they all had a pretty big cast of non-LI characters, some of which were even also main characters, with their own plotlines and interests and stuff. and now with the newer stuff it's like... MC, their LIs, maybe a villain, and that's kind of it? there are no other relevant characters or important platonic relationships that cannot turn romantic and i really miss that. especially having more group dynamics. that was so important to me and it really helped have more space for diversity and different kinds of backstories and even just small stuff that would make these characters relatable for people who are part of minority groups, or even just like, add humor even (like "you are such a philistine" "racist much? my family is from taiwan" or "great, so i'll just be the trans asian guy the rest of my life?" "hey, you know i dont care about that stuff, right?" "thanks, i don't care that you're asian, either")
im not sure if im able to fully express myself but the casual diversity in having very big casts (sometimes with more than one person within the same minority group!! woah!!) and giving them all attention and storylines and different relationships with MC and each other made everything seem so much more real, you know? both in terms of diversity and just of realism. i cared a lot more about the plot and the storylines in this type of stories, and it felt way easier to immerse when it didn't seem like this story only involved/affected 3 people. of course not every story is meant to have a big cast but the fact that every choices story right now revolves around 4 characters tops just makes every story feel so much poorer in relation to the others. especially when 2 out of those 4 characters are blank slates with no real background or community they belong to
and basically i just miss having friends who are real people and not only meant to be there as a romantic interest lmao. and real diversity. i miss real diversity so much
AJAJJAJAJAJAJAJJ why all are your names like this, like how do you not laugh when you have a serious moment and the li just says something like "asshole" like 0.o ajajjajasjjsjsjdj i'd die
because they're hilarious. and i do laugh. those are some of my favorite moments tbh like when i am immersed in a serious moment and then a character says some shit like "i need you, Emo Boy". unparalleled comedy
also it makes the sex scenes a lot more interesting lmao nothing quite beats the humor of having a character moan "I just farted"
Diego is just so sweet but not in a "uwu" way, just in a way that he wants to be a kind person and a good friend and he is!! and I really like how he just,, wanted a bff <3
i feel diego so much :( like he really was just so lonely he just desperately needed a friend, so fucking much he basically made a whole new person materialize into existence and it breaks my heart. it's one of the reasons he is one of my fave characters. and i also feel like it's a big immigrant/poc and(/or) queer mood. i absolutely love ES for having the most important bond be well established as a strictly platonic bond, ugh truly unparalleled i love this series
are you only replaying es or are you going to play a new book also?
i am replaying ES and also playing some other stuff (currently desire and decorum - which im reading just for me - and the freshman - which im reading with my friends - and sometimes i read TRR when im bored and have no keys). but it's been going slow since i went back to in person work for obvious reasons daodaida so i havent been able to get much progress
also, kill ur landlady. what the fuck
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5 most beautiful Miss South Africa 2023 candidates
The Miss South Africa 2023 coronation ceremony will be held at the SunBet Arena at Time Square in Pretoria, Gauteng, South Africa on August 13, 2023. It is the 65th edition of the national beauty pageant that selects South Africa’s Miss Universe, Miss World and Miss Supranational candidates. On August 13, 2022, Ndavi Nokeri of Tzaneen, Limpopo was crowned Miss South Africa 2022 at the SunBet…
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Sunday Specials: Who will succeed Miss Universe Pia Alonzo Wurtzbach?
Sunday Specials: Who will succeed Miss Universe Pia Alonzo Wurtzbach?
Miss Universe Pia Alonzo Wurtzbach has only less than 36 hours left in her reign
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Queen P in her Yamamay photoshoot
It was a big struggle for me to reach this point of sharing my final predictions for the 65th Miss Universe. The path that led me here was the most complex ever because the personal coverage of the entire pageant from Day 1 left me with more details to factor in the overall assessment…
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Happy 65th Birthday Scottish actor Ron Donachie.
Born Ronald Eaglesham Porter in Dundee on April 26th 1956  Ron might not be a household name, but is a weel kent face on our screens during the last 40 years or so.
He was educated at Madras College, St. Andrews and Glasgow University, from where he graduated with an M.A (Hons.) in English Literature and Drama in 1979. After a year working as a navvy, he joined the 7.84 theatre company for the play “One Big Blow”, in which the cast mimicked a traditional, colliery band by singing in six part harmony. The success of the play led to the formation of the acapella band “The Flying Pickets”, who had a Christmas number one in 1983. Donachie’s decision not to stay with the band and thereby missing out on their success has been described by him as “one of my more brilliant career decisions.”
Throughout the 1980s, he was a prolific theatre performer all across the British Isles,  now largely vanished repertory system. This afforded him the opportunity to act in many classical plays which are now rarely performed due to budget constraints and closed theatres. During this period, he appeared in over twenty plays at the Glasgow Citizens’ Theatre. Like many performers with similar experience, he considers this the happiest, most fruitful and most influential phase of his career.
That’s not to say he wasn’t on TV in the 80’s, firstly I would like to say he probably appeared in more episodes of Taggart than any other person, except the regular cast, clocking up five appearances all as different characters between 1987 and 2006.
The first thing I remember Don in was the brilliant Tutti Fruiti, with Robbie Coltrane, Richard Wilson and Maurice Roëves, he was also in 15 episodes of the old Scottish soap, Take the High Road as  Duncan Strachan.
The 90’s saw his TV career really take off, parts in Taking over the Asylum, The Governor, Cracker and Looking after JoJo, as well as playing the Master at Arms in the Oscar winning film Titanic.
Into the new century and I think some of us will recall Don, in what I think is his most well known role as DCI Andrew Ross in the long running cop soap The Bill. Then Silent Witness, The Auf Wiedersehen Pet, Rebus and Stone of Destiny to name but a few.
In the past few years Game of Thrones fans will have known him as Rodrik Cassel, or if you like last weeks birthday boy James James McAvoy in Filth, Don played the part of Hector. He was in casualty for a number of episodes, The brilliant mini series The Loch, and Deadwater Fell with David Tennant. Don also appeared in the Bruce bio-film Outlaw King as Robert Wishart, Bishop of Glasgow.
As with most actors just now production has slowed on the film and TV front, he is due on our screens soon in Rocketry; The Nambi Effect, an Indian biographical drama film based on the life of Nambi Narayanan, a former scientist and aerospace engineer falsely accused and imprisoned for spying in the mid 90′s.
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a (mostly) comprehensive comics guide to james buchanan “bucky” barnes / the winter soldier.
this is my simple attempt to make comics accessible, for both seasoned readers & folks that know nothing about comics and just want to see more of bucky.
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[ ▶ ] personal favorites & best-of-bucky moments
[ ✘ ] non-essentials & blink-and-you-miss-it appearances
[ ⚑ ] marvel event; typically do not directly feature bucky but impact the universe/him in some way
[ ★ ] ongoing / still being released as of january 2020
[ ☗ ] indicates that i haven’t read this myself & can’t be sure of how involved bucky is
last updated: february 6, 2020
golden age comics
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[ ✘ ] captain america comics (1941) #1-12 
[ ✘ / ☗ ] young allies (1941-1946) #1-8
[ ✘ / ☗ ] all-winners comics (1941-1947) #1-21
[ ✘ ] quick note:
none of these are essentials. if you are a history buff or are interested in the roots of the characters, these might interest you. however, please take note that while there are some cute/fun scenes & these have historic significance as early anti-nazi messages from jewish writers, these comics are deeply “of their time” and full of overtly racist caricatures & many other deeply problematic themes/images, and i generally would recommend avoiding these.
silver age comics & beyond
[ ☗ ] avengers (1963) #1-20
[ ☗ ] avengers classic (2007) #1-12
(reprints of 1963, w/ new stories)
[ ☗ ] tales of suspense (1959) #63-71
[ ☗ ] giant-size invaders (1975) #1;invaders (1975-1979) #1-22; annual (1977); marvel premiere #29-30; avengers #71; invaders #23-41; giant-size invaders 2; what if? (1977) 4; invaders (1993) #1-4
[ ✘ ] fantastic four annual (1976) #11
(the fantastic four go back in time to wwii and help the invaders stop the nazis from winning the war with vibranium. 40s kid bucky plays a small part here.)
90s / almost modern comics
[ ✘ ] adventures of captain america (1991) #1-4
 (a 90s retelling of captain america’s origins - some interesting panels, but nonessential.)
[ ☗ ] marvel universe (1998) #1-7
captain america: sentinel of liberty (1998) #12 
(1940s cap & bucky adventure, featuring some cute “what comes next” dialogue)
captain america vol 3 (1998, dan jurgens era) #32, #48, #50
(#32 is a wwii story told from the perspective of someone cap & bucky saved (brief bucky cameos), but #48 ends with a beautiful funeral/memorial scene honoring bucky & featuring rebecca barnes.)
[ ✘ ] captain america annual (2001) #1 
(dan jurgens era cap story; offers a new 40s invaders story in which cap is captured by the red skull; president bush is in it for some reason)
modern backstory
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[ ▶ ] captain america: man out of time (2010) #1-5 
(modern retelling of origins; great starting place to get familiar with bucky and steve in 616 and incredibly heart-warming.)
[ ▶ ] captain america: white (2015) #1-5
(another retelling, featuring some gorgeous art and a letter “to” bucky)
captain america comics 70th anniversary special (2009) #1
(40s bucky narrates steve’s origin story again, providing some new context from before project rebirth.)
the marvels project (2009) #1-8
(a modern retelling of several major characters, including steve & bucky, by ed brubaker)
[ ▶ / ✘ ] history of the marvel universe (2019) #1-6 
(don’t start here; this creates a general marvel timeline of the whole universe/events/etc)
self-contained stories
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[ ✘ ] captain america: the 1940s newspaper strip (2010) #1-3
(a reimagining of the 40s cap comics as mini ‘newspaper’ strips. cute idea but nonessential.)
[ ▶ ] captain america annual (2018) #1
(1940s cap & bucky run into jewish, romani, & gay camp escapees.)
[ ▶ ] winter soldier: the bitter march (2014) #1-5
(1960s political thriller on a train, featuring some incredible sad dialogue)
[ ▶ ] marvel comics presents (2019) #7
(remembering a 1968 winter soldier mission; see some of ‘bucky’s’ kindness escaping)
pop secret exclusive comic (2016) #1
(not really a full comic; promotional pamphlet in a popcorn box ft bucky & black panther, linked [here])
[ ▶ ] a year of marvels: july infinite comic (2016) #1 
(bucky’s shit is stolen and he wants it back)
[ ▶ ] winter soldier: second chances (2018) #1-5
(included below, but can be read as self-contained; a post-winter soldier journey about healing; bucky has a cat, goes to therapy, is friends with sharon, ‘adopts’ a kid - all good)
main storyline (earth-616)
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[ ▶ ] captain america vol. 5 (2004-2011, aka: brubaker era) #1-21; 65th anniversary special
(this is often recommended as a starting place for bucky comics, and for good reason - the plot tends to be pretty good, the winter soldier is introduced for the first time, etc. not my personal favorite *comic* generally, but vital for understanding bucky in 616. in tpbs: winter soldier ultimate collection & red menace ultimate collection.)
[ ▶ ] wolverine (2003) #36-40
(“origins and endings” arc, set after house of m. wolverine regains memories of his life, some of which involve bucky. shows a pretty dark and grim side of bucky and his time as the winter soldier, & is a pretty well-paced mini-arc overall.)
[ ▶ ] wolverine: origins (2006) #1-30
(this is a continuation of the story mentioned above (wolverine #36-40) with wolverine unraveling his memories/past and finding his son. bucky comes in around issue #15 and pretty consistently stays until around issue #30. we see a really interesting, darker take on bucky’s wwii days, as well as modern bucky working with logan.)
[ ⚑ / ✘ ] civil war (2006) #1-6; civil war: the confession 
(if i remember correctly, this “marvel event” does not feature bucky at all - not a single panel - but is vital context for the second half of the brubaker era. read the wikipedia summary if you’d prefer to skip it.)
fallen son: the death of captain america (2007) #1, #5
(#1 is a wolverine-centric story immediately following the death of captain america in civil war. the opening pages involve bucky and logan, and while nonessential are quite well done and interesting. #5 focuses on the two funerals of steve rogers & includes blink-and-you-miss-it bucky.)
[ ▶ ] captain america vol. 5 continued (2004-2011, aka: brubaker era) #22-42; winter soldier: winter kills; #43-48
(bucky!cap begins during this arc. brubaker era continued. “the death of captain america” & “the man with no face” arcs.)
[ ▶ ] young avengers presents patriot (2008) #1
(this is most interesting if you read the young avengers comics & ‘truth: red, white, and black’ first - but still an exceptionally sweet short story.)
[ ▶ ] avengers/invaders (2008) #1-12
(bucky!cap comic; 1940s invaders are transported to 2008, 1940s bucky’s war journals)
[ ⚑ / ✘ ] secret invasion (2008) #1-8
(this event bored me to tears, but i do think buck is in a few panels.)
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the new avengers (2010) #48-60
(after the secret invasion, bucky!cap creates his own team of avengers.)
free comic book day avengers (2009) #1
(a short story where the avengers go toe-to-toe with another god. set during the lead-up to the siege event. has a few cute panels of bucky!cap.)
[ ▶ ] young allies comics 70th anniversary special (2009) #1
(super good; bucky!cap contemplating what it means for all his friends to be dead, dealing with the weight of the cap mantle - and reunites with some old friends.)
[ ▶ ] captain america: forever allies (2011) #1-4
(modern bucky!cap revisiting his old friends and an old young allies mystery.)
captain america vol. 5 continued (2004-2011, aka: brubaker era) #49-50; #600-601
(this is called the “road to reborn” which is going to spark another change in re: cap.)
captain america: reborn (2009) #1-6
(continues the brubaker storyline, just under a different name.)
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[ ⚑ / ▶ ] siege (2009) #1-4
(the rare enjoyable marvel event; bucky has a pretty decent role in this one, too.)
new avengers: siege (2009) aka new avengers #61-64; new avengers annual #3; dark reign: the list - avengers; new avengers finale
(continues the new avengers storyline and leads through the siege event. features this scene with bucky!cap saying he killed hitler.)
siege: captain america (2009) #1
(bucky!cap and steve!cap team up.)
avengers: the initiative (2007) #34
(while he also shows up briefly and inconsequentially in #19 and #35, there is actually a good chunk of #34 set during the siege event featuring bucky!cap and steve!cap working together against the taskmaster - pretty fun stuff.)
captain america vol. 5 continued (2004-2011, aka: brubaker era); #602-605; who will wield the shield?
(brubaker continued. “two americas” tpb.)
fall of the hulks: gamma (2009) #1
(i personally haven’t read any hulk stories, so this was hard for me to follow. however, bucky!cap does seem to feature quite prominently in this issue.)
world war hulks (2010) #1 
(continues the fall of the hulks storyline. bucky!cap features in the mini story arc ‘nobody dies forever’ and tells a story from his time as the winter soldier.)
hulk (2008) #21-22
(part of the ‘fall of the hulks’ and ‘world war hulks’ storyline, where bucky!cap plays a small role and becomes a gamma-infused hulk.)
[ ▶ ] world war hulks: captain america vs wolverine (2010) #1-2
(some more hulk stuff, but this one is actually pretty fun - bucky!cap and logan are in a hulked out rage, which triggers memories of another fight they had in bucky’s winter soldier days.)
avengers vol. 4 (2010) #1-6; #12.1; #16
(bucky!cap joins the avengers. we meet james rogers.)
[ ✘ ] invaders now! (2010) #1-5
(bucky does have a major role, but this isn’t essential to the timeline nor particularly good imo - if you want to skip something, this might be it.)
captain america vol. 5 continued (2004-2011, aka: brubaker era); #606-610; #611-615, #615.1; #616-619
(brubaker continued. “no escape”, “the trial of captain america”, & “prisoner of war” arcs)
captain america vol. 5 continued (2004-2011, aka: brubaker era); #620-624; #625-628
(brubaker continued. not continuous to the story, alternatively titled “captain america and bucky” - “the life story of bucky barnes” and “old wounds.”)
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fear itself: the book of the skull (2011) #1
(provides some context to red skull, sin, baron zemo, and hydra in the lead-up to the fear itself event. features flashbacks to sidekick bucky in the 40s.)
[ ⚑ / ▶ ] fear itself (2010) #1-7; and fear itself: captain america (2010) #7.1
(another event that is actually pretty good & majorly features bucky - essential for the story. bucky officially gives up the captain america mantle.)
secret avengers vol 1 (2011) #15
(this issue involves natasha in the wake of bucky’s death during the fear itself arc. in it, she talks with a group of clickbait reporters about mortality and grief and loss. bucky doesn’t feature centrally, but there’s a strong bucky!nat focus here.)
[ ▶ ] winter soldier (2012) #1-19
(more from ed brubaker; includes the arcs “the longest winter,” “broken arrow,” “black widow hunt,” and “the electric ghost.” uneven, but mostly very good arc about finding redemption.)
[ ✘ ] captain america vol 7 (2013) #1-25
(at the end of this run is where sam wilson takes on the captain america mantle. bucky appears in #13 in a winter soldier flashback and #20 in a fantasy sequence, but otherwise this isn’t essential.)
[ ✘ ] all-new invaders (2014) #1-15
(not my favorite, but it’s okay - a rebooted modern team of invaders.)
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[ ⚑  ] original sin (2014) #1-8
(the arc where bucky becomes the man on the wall. a small-scale, space/murder mystery-esque event that is pretty fun.)
[ ✘ ] bucky barnes: the winter soldier (2015)
(man on the wall bucky. personally, i count this one as nonessential - it’s very abstract and not very cohesive. not much happens, so don’t feel bad if you skip it.)
[ ⚑ / ✘ ] secret wars (2015) #1-9
(non-essential reading for bucky; just know that some weird things happen with alternate universes here.)
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all-new, all-different avengers vol 1 (2016) #8-9
(part of the stand-off event. we see the winter soldier with nadia van dyne, & a panel with the three captain americas introducing stand-off omega.)
[ ⚑ / ▶ ] avengers: standoff (2015); welcome to pleasant hill prologue; assault on pleasant hill alpha; captain america: sam wilson #7-8; assault on pleasant hill omega; captain america: steve rogers #1-2; #4
(the titling here gets very silly, so this is a hodgepodge of various issues; the pleasant hill issues are essential, and the full sam wilson/steve rogers runs are pretty good if you’d prefer to slow down and appreciate them. there’s a very comprehensive guide [here].)
[ ▶ ] thunderbolts (2016) #1-6; #7-12
(bucky starts leading the thunderbolts (a group of morally dubious heroes) & looks after a traumatized child-thing. super good. #7 begins the secret empire tie-ins, see below.)
[ ⚑ ] secret empire (2017) #0-10; secret empire: omega (2017); captain america: steve rogers (2016) #16; captain america vol 8 (2017) #25
(it’s a tricky choice to include this, because while the art in these is often very good & the secret empire arc encompasses the majority of sam wilson’s (incredible) time as captain america, this event was very controversial - primarily because steve rogers “becomes” hydra. i think you should still read it if you’d like to, but engage with it with a critical lens. there’s a good guide to the reading order of this run [here].)
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[ ▶ ] tales of suspense: hawkeye & winter soldier (2017) #100-104
(this one is a fan favorite and for good reason. post-secret empire hijinks as bucky and clint barton try to solve a mystery. there’s a big russian bear involved.)
[ ✘ / ★ ] captain america vol 9 (2017; aka: ta-nehisi coates era) #1-?
(so far, features only minor appearances of bucky - but still a pretty interesting take on post-secret empire steve rogers)
[ ▶ ] winter soldier: second chances (2018) #1-5
(included above as well; a post-winter soldier journey about healing; bucky has a cat, goes to therapy, is friends with sharon, ‘adopts’ a kid - all good.)
invaders (2019) #1-12
(a cool modern invaders story that centers around their relationships to namor.)
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[ ⚑ / ✘ / ▶ ] war of the realms (2019) #1-6
(war of the realms is a truly incredible event featuring many years of build-up in the jason aaron thor canon, which you can follow [here]. however, it only features a few quick panels of bucky - so if you have no interest at all in thor, you may want to skip this.)
war of the realms: strikeforce - the war avengers (2019) #1
(another team-up where bucky plays a role during the war of the realms - a quick issue, and pretty fun.)
[ ▶ / ★ ] strikeforce (2019) #1-?
(bucky joins a different strikeforce team, where he and a team ft. billy kaplan, blade, monica rambeau, etc face a post-war of the realms foe. super, super fun.)
guest appearances
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black widow: deadly origin (2010) #1-4
(a black widow origin story with some bucky history involved; features a pretty misogynistic storyline about natasha, though.)
black widow vol 4 (2010) #1-8
(heavy on the buckynat romance, if that is your thing.)
[ ▶ ] black widow vol 5 (2014) #8, #15, #17, #18
(a gorgeous series illustrated by phil noto that heavily features glimpses of bucky!nat after the memory loss in winter soldier 2013 #14. bucky is also in #12 of this run in a blink-and-you-miss-it panel.)
[ ▶ ] black widow vol 6 (2017) #8-10
(“stop pining, schoolboy.” these issues have a bunch of buckynat, also in the wake of natasha’s memory loss.)
[ ▶ ] the web of black widow (2019) #1-5
(bucky’s appearance is mainly in one issue, but this is still a lovely arc about friendship and trust.)
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[ ✘ ] hawkeye & mockingbird (2010) #1, #5
(bucky!cap makes two brief appearances in this run, helping bobbi morse and clint barton.)
[ ▶ / ★ ] hawkeye: freefall (2020) #1-?
(ongoing comic by acclaimed team; so far, very fun vibes between clint, bucky, and sam in #1.)
punisher: war journal (2006) #11
(in this issue, bucky invites punisher to a fight after he dons cap’s uniform.)
punisher: war machine vol 2 (2016) #224-228
(some fun bucky scenes, but nonessential.)
[ ✘ ] punisher vol 12 (2018) #4-5
(“world war frank,” post-secret empire. bucky has a small role fighting against the punisher.)
[ ✘ ] punisher (2019) #16
(bucky is in a few panels on a team with natasha, nick fury, etc.)
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captain america and the falcon (2004) #5-7
(disassembled-era story. in these issues, we see steve having hallucinations of bucky – and mourning a prized photo of bucky he keeps in his apartment.)
[ ✘ ] cable & deadpool (2004) #45
(deadpool goes back in time to kill captain america for hydra. lots of baby bucky being especially ‘feisty,’ but nothing essential plotwise.) 
[ ✘ ]  thunderbolts (2006) #125, #137
(completely nonessential. these taken place during secret invasion and dark reign/siege, respectively. bucky!cap appears in the background a few times.) 
[ ✘ ] new avengers: the reunion (2009) #1-4
(short story set after the events of secret invasion, where mockingbird (bobbi morse) reunites with former husband clint barton. the first two issues feature bucky!cap in a supporting role.)
[ ✘ ] agents of atlas (2009) #3-5
(bucky!cap and the avengers go up against the agents of atlas, in the dark reign/siege era. nonessential, but shows an interesting twist in bucky’s story that doesn’t really ever go anywhere.)
invincible iron man (2008) #8-19; #20-22
(this covers iron man’s story between secret invasion and siege, where bucky!cap plays a small role in tony’s fight against osborn alongside black widow and maria hill.)
[ ✘ ] amazing spider-man (1999) #523, 537, 600, 601, 637, 648, 661
(most of these are set approximately during dark reign, where osborn is in charge and bucky!cap is teamed up with peter parker, et al. mostly just in the background of a few panels, nothing important here.)
[ ✘ ] avengers vs atlas (2010) #1, #4
(the original 60s avengers team replaces the current bucky!cap avengers team for this short team-up arc with the agents of atlas. bucky isn’t in this much, so it’s skippable.)
tails of the pet avengers: dogs of summer (2010) #1
(in the second story of this collection, bucky!cap, thor, and iron man team up – and get turned into frogs.)
avengers vs pet avengers (2010) #1-4
(bucky!cap, iron man, and thor are frogs. they team up with the pet avengers, led by throg - the frog thor.)
[ ▶ ] wolverine: weapon x (2009) #11-15
(a fun arc that starts with steve rogers on a pub crawl. this is one of the few times bucky!cap is used to full advantage, and it’s glorious.)
i am an avenger (2010) #2, #4, #5
(a collection of a bunch of little short stories focusing, primarily, on off-times and side-battles. includes one called ‘a little help’ where bucky!cap inspires a suicidal teen to seek help.)
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[ ✘ ] captain america and the falcon (2011) #1
(an issue that centers on sam wilson/the falcon. includes a nice moment with bucky!cap in the beginning, but he doesn’t play a central role.)
captain america and batroc (2011) #1
(an issue that centers on batroc the leaper. features a fight between bucky!cap and batroc.)
[ ✘ ] x-club (2011) #1, #4
(40s sidekick bucky appears alongside the invaders in a few flashback panels that provide context for this mutant story.)
captain america: hail hydra (2011) #1, #5
(a short series showing how hydra and steve have intersected throughout history. the first and last issues feature bucky - first as sidekick baby bucky and later as bucky!cap.)
a+x (2012) #1
(40s captain america and bucky team up with time-hopping cable to fight against some robots. pretty fun stuff.)
secret avengers vol 2 (2013) #9, #16
(bucky plays a small role here as the winter soldier. i didn’t read the full run so i don’t entirely understand his role, but he seems to team up with bobbi morse/mockingbird and daisy johnson/quake against shield/maria hill’s policy of altering agents’ memories. also hinted that they vacation to hawaii together.)
[ ✘ ] marvel 75th anniversary celebration (2014) #1
(this issue is a collection of mini-stories, released as part of the 75th anniversary stuff. the first two feature one panel of bucky-as-winter-soldier in flashback and a 40s stan lee original classic text story adapted into modern comics.)
[ ✘ ] secret empire: brave new world (2017) #5
(bucky appears briefly in the namor mini-story, sanctuary. he has the thunderbolts arm and a little bun in these panels.)
rise of the black panther (2018) #3
(fills in some gaps following fantastic four #52 from 1966, after they are invited to wakanda. this details the process of king t’challa opening the lands up to international affairs. as the winter soldier, bucky is involved in a russian assassination attempt.)
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[ ✘ ] uncanny x-men (2019) #11
(natasha and bucky meet up with logan for a few panels. there’s a mutant hate rally ongoing, and the x-men are working to stop it.)
captain marvel (2019) #6
(a war of the realms issue that opens with a team-up of natasha and bucky. eventually, nat goes off to work with captain marvel, however.)
[ ✘ ] gwenpool strikes back (2019) #3
(gwenpool is doing weird shit, bucky is hanging out on the beach with steve in a few panels.)
[ ✘ ] marvel (2019)  #1000-1001
(a bunch of mostly disjointed one-page comics to celebrate marvel’s 80th, has a few cute pages with bucky)
[ ▶ ] unstoppable wasp: unlimited (2019) #7-10 
(read this whole series - #1-10 if you can; incredibly tender scenes with former red room trainee & forgiveness themes; lgbt youth & mental illness)
[ ✘ ] avengers: no road home (2019) #10
(the vision manifests bucky & many others to help aid in a fight. he’s seen in a few big battle panels.)
ruins of ravencroft: dracula (2020) #1
(related to the upcoming ravencroft event. in it, bucky narrates a previous run-in with the ravencroft institute. heavily features 40s kid bucky and cap fighting dracula and an american eugenics research program.)
alternate universes
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what if? (1977) #5
(this issue asks: what if captain america and bucky hadn’t died in wwii? in it, steve starts to age - and bucky takes on the mantle of captain america.)
[ ✘ ] what if? vol 2 (1991) #28
(this issue asks: what if erskine didn’t die, and there was an army of supersoldiers? unfortunately, it takes a very nick spencer-esque approach and turns steve rogers into a racist, fascist, eugenicist president. bucky features in a very minor role - he never goes to battle because he isn’t a supersoldier. skip this one.)
[ ✘ ] what if? vol 2 (1998) #105
(bucky is not in the main story here, just in a small doodle on the fan letters page. there’s a mini two-panel ‘story’ that asks: what if bucky hadn’t died in wwii, and came back to fight alongside steve as an old man?)
[ ✘ ] what if? (2005) #1
(what if captain america was in the civil war instead of wwii? this introduces an evil, ‘white skull’ bucky barnes. it also features some pretty grotesque appropriate of indigenous customs and other assorted racisms and bastardizes bucky’s key personality traits. skip it.)
[ ✘ ] what if: house of m (2008) #1
(what if the scarlet witch said ‘no more powers’ instead of ‘mutants’? bucky appears in just a few quick panels.)
civil war: house of m (2008) #1-5
(confusingly, has nothing to do with civil war. this is a “house of m” alternative universe where bucky is sent to kill magneto.)
[ ✘ ] what if: world war hulk (2009) #1
(what if the heroes lost world war hulk? briefly features winter soldier bucky barnes, who dies.)
what if: secret invasion (2010) #1
(what if the skrulls won the secret invasion? bucky!cap is a part of a resistance team, and kills norman osborn.)
what if wolverine: father (2010) #1
(what if logan found the winter soldier killing his wife, and got to raise his son daken? bucky dies in the beginning of this one, for obvious reasons.)
what if? dark reign (2010) #1
(what if clint barton succeeded at killing norman osborn? bucky!cap, bobbi, and spider-man hunt down clint, hoping they get to him before the rest of the world does.)
[ ✘ ] what if? (2011) #200
(what if norman osborn won the siege of asgard? sentry decapitates steve rogers/cap in front of bucky!cap.)
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[ ▶ ] planet hulk: warzones (2015) #1-5
(au of implied stevebucky, where they are beefy gladiator-type warriors)
[ ▶ ] battleworld: runaways (2015) #1-4
(a moody teen!bucky alternate universe.)
[ ✘ ] 1872 (2015) #1-4
(in this western alternate universe, bucky barnes was sheriff steve rogers’s deputy & the wife of natasha. he is only depicted once, in a photograph.)
[ ✘ ] a-force (2016) #5
(features a brief but cute cameo where bucky is called a heroine.)
1602 witch hunter angela (2015) #1
(in this battleworlds alternate universe, witchhunters angela and serah [a wlw couple] hunt down and kill captain james barnes of clan buchanan, who transforms into a monster.)
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batman/captain america (1996) #1
(in the 40s, bucky and steve team up with batman and robin in this dc / marvel crossover comic. there’s some very cute stuff with bucky and robin.)
[ ✘ ] the ultimates (2002) #1-13
(frankly, i hate this because everyone is an asshole. there’s a whole lot of things set in this universe if you seek them out. bucky didn’t tragically “die” in the 40s and instead marries steve’s fiance and grows old with her.)
wolverine (2003) #66-74
(most of these issues are from the ‘old man logan’ run, and feature bucky!cap in a few panels.)
old man hawkeye (2018) #6-8
(bucky features as the winter soldier with glowing red eyes - after the events shown in the old man logan flashbacks. he’s put on a mission for the bad guys, and then dies.)
[ ✘ ] bullet points (2006) #1-6
(a ‘what if’ dr. erskine died before giving steve the serum; steve becomes iron man; bucky has two small roles in this, but nothing too major)
[ ✘ ] marvel zombies vs the army of darkness (2007) #2
(there’s a zombified winter soldier featured on a single page, where he’s killed by ashley.)
marvel zombies destroy! (2015) #1-5
(in this one, bucky is a nazi zombie & member of the invaders. in the last issue, we see his demise.)
[ ✘ ] marvel apes (2008) #1-4
(a weird story where everyone is an ape and ape-cap and ape-bucky are vampires. skip it.)
[ ✘ ] marvel apes: amazing spider-monkey special (2009) #1
(spins out of the above ‘marvel apes’ story, and features a quick update on what happens to ape-bucky after the vampires are defeated.)
[ ✘ ] world war hulks: hulked-out heroes (2010) #2
(hulkpool, captain america, and 40s bucky briefly team-up in this issue.)
captain america corps (2011) #1-5
(takes place in the lead-up to bucky turning himself in in the brubaker issue #611. captain americas of the multiverse are going missing, and john walker, 40s cap, bucky cap, a sharon cap, and a future descendent of luke cage cap all team up.)
a-babies vs x-babies (2012) #1
(‘bucky bear’ features centrally, with great/cute art by gurihiru.)
rebecca “rikki” barnes / nomad
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captain america vol 2 (1996) #1-12
(heroes reborn era marvel, which was super unpopular for good reason. this introduces rebecca ‘rikki’/‘bucky’ barnes, the child of richard barnes and peggy carter barnes in a pocket universe created by franklin richards.)
[ ✘ ] heroes reborn the return (1997) #3-4
(rikki barnes says goodbye to cap/steve in this, as the heroes reborn era wraps up and the universe returns to normal.)
[ ✘ ] heroes reborn: young allies (2000) #1
(truly this is a mess and not worthwhile at all. in short, it’s an alternative universe version of the young allies, led by rikki barnes, with a hard to follow and bizarre plot.)
exiles vol 1 (2006) #81-82
(the pocket universe where rikki is from has been removed and placed in the 616-universe. rikki’s young allies and exiles team up to stop proteus from destroying the pocket planet.)
onslaught reborn (2007) #1-5
(onslaught, the villain involved in the creation of the pocket verse by franklin richards, returns in the wake of the genocide in house of m. in the pocket verse, rikki narrates the events leading to her death, which then draw her into a post-civil war/cap’s death 616.)
nomad: girl without a world (2009) #1-4
(rikki barnes takes on steve’s old title - nomad - and deals with the jarring move to a new reality. bucky!cap appears a few times in this one, too!)
captain america (2005) b-sides #600, #602-615
(pretty solid stuff - rikki barnes is acclimating to the 616 universe, and she teams up with anya corazon/spider-girl, patriot, steve rogers, & black widow.)
[ ☗ ] spider-girl (2010) #1-6
[ ☗ ] young allies (2011) #1-6
[ ☗ ] avengers academy (2011) #13
[ ☗ ] onslaught unleashed (2011) #1-4
[ ☗ ] exiles vol 3 (2018) #1-12
[ ☗ ] future foundation (2019) #1-5
mcu-verse bucky
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[ ▶ ] captain america: first vengeance (2011) #1-8
(a captain america: the first avenger comic that shows a ton of extra content not in the movies, like bucky taking steve boxing & bucky meeting the howling commandos at azzano.) 
 [ ▶ ] captain america civil war prelude infinite (2016) #1
(a really beautiful short comic that shows the immediate fall-out of the final events of the winter soldier film.)
marvel’s avengers: infinity war prelude (2018) #1
(covers events immediately following civil war, including bucky’s move to wakanda.)
marvel’s black widow prelude (2020) #1
(comic that provides some background for natasha’s history in the lead-up to the black widow film. there’s a page that gives a brief overview of natasha and bucky’s mcu-verse relationship - which, notably, does not place him in the red room program.)
[ ✘ ] quick note: other prelude comics
(if you’re a big bucky fan, you might like to know that there are other prelude comics about the mcu films specifically. i’m not including them as must-reads because, unlike the others listed above, they add no new info - they are mostly line-by-line and scene-by-scene comic renderings of the films, which i found quite dull. if you’d like to seek them out, try captain america: the first avenger adaptation 2013, marvel’s avengers: civil war prelude 2015 #4 (catws adaptation), marvel's avengers infinity war prelude 2018, marvel’s avengers endgame prelude 2018.)
upcoming or ongoing
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captain america vol 9 (2017)
#19 coming february 18, 2020
strikeforce (2019)
#5 coming march 4, 2020
hawkeye: freefall (2020)
#3 coming february 12, 2020
falcon and winter soldier (2020)
#1 coming february 26, 2020
blink-and-you-miss-it appearances
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[ ✘ ]   quick note:
these are issues commonly included on others’ rec lists for bucky. everything in this section has bucky in the background / in a single panel / in some other inconsequential role that is easily looked over. none of these are worth reading specifically for bucky, unless noted otherwise.
[ ✘ ] deadpool (1997) #0 
(bucky is brought ‘back from the dead’ by arnim zola; he’s in about two quick panels. this issue suffers from 90s comics sexism and transphobia, tho.)
[ ✘ ] iron man vol 3 (1998) #73
(features in a single panel in a flashback as told by steve rogers.)  
[ ✘ ] deadpool (2002) #61
(from context, it seems that deadpool dies and then in some sort of afterlife finds bucky playing poker with abe lincoln, etc.)
[ ✘ ] mythos: captain america (2008) #1
(a short retelling of steve rogers’ origins with painting-like artwork and heavy-handed patriotism. features a few quick panels of baby bucky that are pretty cute.)
[ ✘ ]  secret invasion: front line (2008) #4-5
(story focuses on journalist ben urich during the secret invasion storyline. bucky!cap is in the background in two panels. skippable.)
[ ✘ ] the mighty avengers (2009) #29-31
(occurs after secret invasion and before siege. bucky!cap plays a small role in the battle scenes.)
[ ✘ ] new mutants (2009) #30
(set during dark reign event. in one quick panel, someone has a vision that bucky!cap gets his arm ripped off - see that panel here.)
[ ✘ ] timestorm 2099 (2009) #1-4
(bucky!cap is sort of in the background of a few panels. mostly focuses on spiderman and wolverine and some bizarre future stuff that was hard to follow. imo, skip it.)
[ ✘ ] fantastic four (2009) #569, #584, #588
(once again, while these feature bucky!cap in a few panels/background scenes, this isn’t vital and doesn’t add anything to his story.)
[ ✘ ] ms. marvel (2006) #41-42
(set near dark reign. another two quick panels of bucky!cap with his team, helping out during a battle. there’s a lot of this stuff, as you can see.)
[ ✘ ] incredible hulks (2010) #601, #606, #607, #609
(more bucky!cap saves the day… in the background. also nonessential. there’s a lot of hulks.)
[ ✘ ] dark avengers annual (2010) #1
(bucky!cap appears in a single panel alongside steve rogers, spying on noh-varr pre-siege.)
[ ✘ ] origins of siege (2009) #1
(blink-and-you-miss-it single page that gives a quick summary of bucky!cap’s history.)
[ ✘ ] spider-woman (2010) #7
(another brief blink-and-you-miss-it type appearance, where bucky!cap shows up with the avengers team to aid spider-woman with a foe.)
[ ✘ ] dark avengers (2009) #16
(post-siege, taking in the dark avengers for their crimes. bucky!cap has a small role here as the battle raps up.)
[ ✘ ] siege: embedded (2010) #4
(during & post-siege, with ben urich reporting. bucky!cap appears a few times in the background in battle.)
[ ⚑ / ✘ ] age of heroes (2010) #1
(post-siege, bucky!cap has a few quick cameos in this issue. introduces the heroic age ‘event.’)
[ ✘ ] new avengers vol 2 (2010) #1
(this issue sets up the next new avengers team, which bucky!cap will no longer be on - though he appears in the background once.)
[ ✘ ] heroic age: prince of power (2010) #1
(this focuses on amadeus cho. bucky!cap makes a single-panel background cameo. nonessential.)
[ ✘ ] x-men: legacy (2010) #236
(another brief appearance of bucky!cap coming to save the day with the other avengers.)
[ ✘ ] web of spider-man (2009) #8
(appears in a single panel with the other avengers as bucky!cap. irrelevant to the story.)
all-winners comics 70th anniversary special (2009) #1
(features a story about the all-winners squad, with jeff mace captain america and fred davis bucky – the replacements put in by the government after they disappeared. doesn’t truly feature our bucky except as a sort-of zombie/ghost.)
[ ✘ ] heroic age: one month to live (2010) #5
(bucky!cap appears briefly with the other avengers, where they temporarily induct a hero dying of cancer into the avengers.)
[ ✘ ] uncanny x-men (2010) #525
(bucky!cap appears briefly with the avengers, working alongside the x-men on a mission.)
[ ✘ ] shadowland (2010) #1
(this is a dark daredevil story, and bucky!cap makes a brief appearance here with other avengers.)
[ ✘ ] doomwar (2010) #6
(bucky!cap makes a single cameo in the background of a large group scene at the very end here.)
[ ✘ ] chaos war (2010) #1-2, #5
(a few panels of bucky!cap in this story centering on hercules.)
[ ✘ ] chaos war: dead avengers (2010) #1; #3
(two blink-and-you-miss-it panels of ‘dead’ bucky!cap.)
[ ✘ ] thunderstrike (2010) #2
(small bucky!cap cameo among other avengers during a search-and-rescue / clean-up mission.)
[ ✘ ] the twelve: spearhead (2010) #1
(40s wwii story. features blink-and-you-miss-it appearance where bucky can be seen, in shadow, falling off of the plane to his death in the background.)
[ ✘ ] invincible iron man (2011) #501
(bucky!cap features in a single panel in a meeting with iron man.)
[ ✘ ] all-winners squad: band of heroes (2011) #1-5
(in flashbacks, 40s sidekick bucky features in the background a few times with steve/cap. this story focuses on bringing the aged timely comics c-list characters back.)
[ ✘ ] herc (2011) #4
(bucky!cap appears in a single panel that is included to provide context to what else is happening in the 616 universe during the fear itself event. spoilers for that arc, but no new info here.)
[ ✘ ] heroes for hire (2011) #9-10
(set during fear itself arc. misty knight is monitoring the ongoing battles, bucky!cap features in two quick panels showing the action.)
[ ✘ ] avengers vs x-men: versus (2011) #6
(bucky doesn’t appear, but he and the rick jones bucky are discussed/mourned by cap.)
[ ✘ ] battle scars (2012) #3
(features in a single flashback panel of bucky!cap and steve fighting taskmaster.)
[ ✘ ] deadpool (2012) #49.1
(this is a musical-style rendition recapping the last few years of deadpool’s comics. bucky features in a single panel that harkens back to his role in wolverine: origins.)
[ ✘ ] deadpool: killustrated (2013) #1
(blink-and-you-miss-it appearance where bucky!cap appears as a corpse among a pile of corpses.)
[ ✘ ] deadpool (2013) #17
(40s bucky appears on the very first page in a flashback. the rest is an adventure shared by steve/cap, wolverine, and deadpool.)
[ ✘ ] superior foes of spider-man (2013) #7
(bucky… sort of appears? as a doodle. featured in an interaction between a lawyer and baron zemo. skippable and not really an appearance.)
[ ✘ ] all-new marvel now! point one (2014) #1
(features a bunch of short stories that briefly introduce the major players and storylines of the marvel now era, including the all-new invaders story. features a few brief mentions/panels of bucky.)
[ ✘ ] loki: agent of asgard (2014) #12
(loki makes a quick reference to bucky and the events of bucky barnes: the winter soldier 2015 in this panel.)
[ ✘ ] what if? age of ultron (2014) #4
(blink-and-you-miss-it appearance of 40s kid bucky’s death in a recap panel.)
[ ✘ ] amazing spider-man vol 3 (2014) #1
(blink-and-you-miss-it appearance of bucky barnes as a cardboard cut-out.)
[ ✘ ] secret wars: secret love (2015) #1
(often included on bucky guides, but *incredibly* blink-and-you-miss it panel where we see a very brief background glimpse of buckynat.)
[ ✘ ] inhuman special (2015) #1
(40s bucky appears in a single panel in flashback.)
[ ✘ ] agents of shield (2016) #8
(this is part of the civil war ii event. bucky is shown in a single panel in a large battle scene.)
[ ✘ ] all-new, all-different avengers annual (2016) #1
(ms. marvel’s fanfiction world, come to life. bucky appears in the background of a single panel, on a date[?] at a coffee shop.)
[ ✘ ] guardians of the galaxy vol 4 (2017) #16
(a cute little story about groot on earth. bucky features in a single panel, as part of a large scene depicting many other superheroes at once.)
[ ✘ ] generations: sam wilson captain america & steve rogers captain america (2017) #1
(sam wilson goes back in time and gets to grow old and watch steve rogers in wwii and his younger self much later. a good story, but bucky features only as 40s kid bucky in the background a few times.)
[ ✘ ] unstoppable wasp (2017) #7 
(blink-and-you-miss it panel where we learn bucky is a magazine model. a good comic, just not bucky-centric.)
[ ✘ ] unbelievable gwenpool (2017) #16-18
(not really an appearance, but bucky does appear as a doll on gwen’s bedroom shelf.)
[ ✘ ] ant-man & the wasp (2018) #2
(the winter soldier appears in a brief flashback panel, explaining nadia van dyne’s origins with the red room.)
[ ✘ ] cosmic ghost rider destroys marvel history (2019) #4
(no clue what’s happening here, tbh. frank/the punisher is the ghost rider of the future, maybe? there’s a wwii story here, and a few brief glimpses of bucky from the 40s - nothing important.)
[ ✘ ] friendly neighborhood spider-man (2019) #9
(spider-man’s neighbor marnie, also ‘rumor’, tells her story about japanese internment camps. cap and bucky fought with her, and 40s kid bucky is present in one panel.)
[ ✘ ] marvels epilogue (2019) #1
(in one two-page spread showing phil sheldon’s past run-ins with superheroes during his journalism career, a small image of 40s bucky can be seen.)
[ ✘ ] spider-man annual (2019) #1
(bucky appears in a single panel, as a horse.)
amazing spider-man (2020) #38
(j. jonah jameson tours a millennial clickbait newsroom that publishes pieces critical of superheroes. bucky appears responding to a hydra!cap accusation, joining the angry comment section.)
frequently asked questions
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where/how can i read comics?
you can search for a local shop [here]. digital comics are also an option. i recommend [marvel unlimited], which you can pay $9.99/mo or $69/yr for almost all marvel comics older than 6 months.if you want to try an issue out before purchasing, there are also sites dedicated to pirating comics - getcomics and readcomiconline being the most popular - but if you can afford to pay, please do. 
there is a comic missing from this list! what gives?
i do have an ongoing list of possible bucky appearances mentioned by others that i haven’t vetted myself that you can find on [this google doc]. if not listed there, please feel free to send an ask and recommend with as much detail as possible (title, issue, year, volume, author, etc).  if i’ve read it and it isn’t listed here, it probably means that it doesn’t fit my own arbitrary criteria (in the background of a single distant panel, merely mentioned by another character, etc). 
i would like to know more about [x]…?
there’s a lot of cool resources for those types of questions. to find more comics about a certain character/event/etc that excites you, try googling “[name] comics reading order guide” or “[x] marvel wikia.“  these pages were really essential for me trying to figure this stuff out: - comic book herald guide to bucky barnes  - comic vine’s captain america: the definitive reading guide - marvel wikia’s james buchanan barnes (earth-616) extended history - wikipedia’s bucky barnes page - angela’s comic-bucky tumblr posts; bucky!cap guide - travis starnes’s bucky 616 appearances list
how are comics bucky and movie bucky different?
this is getting harder to answer, because newer writers keep retconing things to fit the movies. but for (most of) the comics above, the stories differ mostly in bucky’s timeline. for most authors, he meets steve for the first time at camp lehigh & doesn’t die by falling off a train, but on an exploding plane. he also does not kill tony’s parents as in the mcu. he is also generally a more well-developed character, by virtue of actually having lines in the comics.
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Diggers, Denial and Despair: The Macabre Story of the Srebrenica Cover-up!
“A Genocide of Muslims By the Criminal Christian Serb Forces!”
— Alastair Sloan, Peter Oborne | 6 May, 2017 | Middleeasreye.Net
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Bosnian Serb genocide deniers are being courted by the Trump White House. Could rising anti-Muslim hatred in Europe lead to another killing spree?
TUZLA, Bosnia-Herzegovina — There is no ventilation in the room where they keep the bodies. There is no central heating in the room the forensics team work in. The cleaners were laid off long ago because there is no money to pay them. The plumbing in one of the lavatories is bust. The rent has gone unpaid for 12 months. The building is a dreary industrial unit with uncleaned windows and broken shutters.
Welcome to the International Commission on Missing Persons in Tuzla where earnest and stretched forensic anthropologists try to identify the victims of the Srebrenica genocide.
'He said he wanted to kill me, he chased us across the field cursing my dead children ... The police did nothing; this is Srpska now'
We had blithely assumed that the international community - and the governments of both Bosnia-Herzegovina and Serbia - would have ensured that the organisation working to find mass graves, painstakingly identify the bodies and then inform the families, would be adequately funded until the very last victim was found. We were wrong: "We wanted to get sniffer dogs to find the remaining graves," the only staff member in the building told us, "but we couldn't afford it."
The rundown building is a perfect metaphor for a genocide that is forgotten by many, ignored by others, and completely denied by many of those most closely involved.
Dragana Vucetic, a 36-year-old Serb, is the director of the centre. A forensic anthropologist by training, she was a child in Belgrade during the terrible civil wars that ripped apart the Balkans in the 1990s.
Dragana joined the International Commission on Missing Persons straight after university and has worked tirelessly in the 13 years since.
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Bida Smajlovic, 64, survivor of July 1995 massacre in Srebrenica, stands at a memorial center in Potocari, on March 24, 2016, while pointing at the name of her husband, engraved among names of other victims of the massacre. (AFP)
She showed us half a skeleton in a room next door to the mortuary, laid out on an aluminium table. She holds up a "skeletal inventory" in which they track the bones. Most of the diagram is red, indicating the bones that are missing. "It's a relief every time we identify someone," said Dragana. She described what she knew about the human remains in front of her. They belonged to a male, who was probably killed with a gunshot to the head.
Thanks to modern DNA techniques, the International Commission on Missing Persons has been able to identify him, even though much of his body is missing.
His family have been informed, and they are now ready to bury the remains. Many families, however, delay for years, waiting for more bones to be found. The reason for the majority of these delays is macabre.
Mass Graves Dispersed With Diggers
As Serbian paramilitaries found themselves hounded by international investigators intent on bringing the murderers to justice, they would carve up the mass graves at night with diggers, move the soil and bones to secondary sites, and then perhaps move them again for good measure.
The skeletons of Srebrenica were therefore spread across mass graves up to 20 kilometres apart.
It dawned on us that the genocide had actually worked
In the mortuary we see half a jaw with five teeth left in a semi-translucent plastic bag. On the shelves above each set of remains are corresponding brown paper bags containing whatever clothes, wallets or other scraps of belongings may have belonged to that person.
Most of the mass graves are now thought to have been found, but Dragana tells us there are one, "perhaps two”, still to go. Now that funding has dried up, they may never be discovered.
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From Tuzla we drove towards Srebrenica, some 32 kilometres to the southeast, a haunting journey through villages that had been ethnically cleansed by Bosnian Serb forces and Serb militias during the war. Many Bosnian Muslims have left forever, while newly built churches mark Bosnian Serb possession of the territory.
We also realised that that we were taking the same journey – only in the reverse direction – as the so-called "Death March" of 11 July 1995 when 10,000 Bosnian Muslims fled Srebrenica towards Tuzla after UN forces refused to protect them. Of those 10,000, some 7,000 were killed by Serbian forces.
Eventually we reached Srebrenica, the site of the only genocide in Europe since the Second World War. The UN camp, which failed so terribly in its task to protect, has now been turned into a museum.
As at Tuzla, we were in for a very nasty shock. We had come to Srebrenica to learn about the events that led to the genocide. Chillingly, we learnt something else as well. It dawned on us that the genocide had actually worked.
Act of Defiance
With most of the town's former Muslim residents dead or emigrated, Srebrenica is now controlled by Bosnian Serbs, the majority of whom refuse to accept that that genocide took place.
We met a survivor of the genocide who moved back to Srebrenica in an act of defiance, marrying a fellow survivor and having three children.
'They are being taught that the genocide never happened. You turn on the TV and it is like the war never ended'
"For a long time I thought we could make a life here," he told us, but now they want to move away. "Our first child is starting at the local school. They are being taught that the genocide never happened. You turn on the TV and it is like the war never ended."
Nedzad Avdic cannot doubt the genocide took place because his uncle and father, and many other male relatives, were also killed (only the bodies of his uncle and father have been found so far). His story is horrific: he himself survived after crawling away badly wounded from a mound of defenceless men who had been shot dead by the Serbs.
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Nedzad Avdic survived the massacre by crawling away (Rooful Ali/MEE)
"The denial of the genocide hurts," said Mejra Dzogaz, whose sons were murdered in the hills around Srebrenica. The elderly lady told us her story in the United Nations base from which refugees were expelled by Dutch United Nations peacekeepers in the hours before the killings began.
"We are still hoping the deniers will turn round finally and think about us and all the other mothers, but all they want to do is deny. If you turn the TV on all you can hear is them denying. We cry and cry and they still deny."
The mother told us that the first time she returned to her home, a neighbour threatened her. "He said he wanted to kill me, he chased us across the field cursing my dead children. Luckily my neighbour came. The police did nothing; this is Srpska now."
Srpska is the semi-autonomous northern and eastern region of Bosnia-Herzegovina which includes Srebrenica and borders Serbia. Since the war ended Srpska has been dominated by Bosnian Serbs.
Mejra Dzogaz told us that many of the same men she remembered carrying out the killings she now sees around the town, some holding offices at the local council or senior ranks in the local police force.
"I put so much sugar in my coffee every morning," she added, "but no matter how much I put in, it still tastes bitter."
Every year, the international community gathers in the cemetery at Srebrenica to commemorate the genocide.
The ceremony remains an important reminder that a genocide in Europe has happened since the Second World War, and that leaders should always be on their guard to avoid it happening again.
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Mejra Dzogas says that she still sees people responsible for the genocide walking freely in Screbenica (Rooful Ali/MEE)
This year, the preparations for the memorial must be in doubt. Last October a Bosnian Serb nationalist politician, Mladen Grujicic, was elected mayor of Srebrenica. “When they prove it to be the truth," Grujicic has said, "I’ll be the first to accept it."
Like many Bosnian Serb nationalists, he still refuses to use the word genocide about the atrocities of July 1995 - even though Srebrenica is now regarded as the most well-documented and best evidenced war crime in history.
"I always said that what happened in Srebrenica was a terrible crime against the Bosnian population and that there were also terrible crimes against the Serbian population." Grjujicic has said, adding that "I leave it to competent institutions to qualify it."
Genocide Denial
This is genocide denial. He ignores the fact that the International Court of Justice and the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia have both clearly ruled the killings "genocide".
A United Nations Security Council motion proposing to condemn the Srebrenica killings as genocide in 2015 was vetoed by Russia, Serbia and Republika Srpska's ally, but both the US Congress and the European Parliament have also passed resolutions calling the massacre a genocide.
The chairman of Remembering Srebrenica, Dr Waqar Azmi, said: "It is a cruel irony that the election of a new mayor of Srebrenica, who is a genocide denier, was made possible only because of the ethnic cleansing of its Muslim population." In Serbia itself, one 2015 poll showed 54 percent people do not question the crime's brutality, but an extraordinary 70 percent still deny it was "genocide". In November 2016, Serb legislators excluded Srebrenica from a new law forbidding genocide denial more widely.
Grujicic does not hold a minority view among political leaders in both Srpska and Serbia, and Bosnian Serbs who now live in the Republika Srpska.
Once 2015 poll showed that in Serbia, 54 percent of people do not question the crime’s brutality, but 70 percent still deny it was "genocide". In November 2016, Serb legislators excluded Srebrenica from a new law forbidding genocide denial more widely.
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Boak Bollocks Mladen Grujicic, mayor of Srebrenica, with Zeljka Cvijanovic, prime minister of the Republic of Srpska, at the 65th National Prayer Breakfast in Washington on 2 February 2017 (Republic of Sprska Government)
With such a palpable atmosphere of denial everywhere we went, one question lingered on - could such a crime happen again?
It is as if European Jews who survived the Holocaust had found themselves being ruled by the same criminals who denied the gas chambers existed, and who themselves had ordered the killings.
There is more than a little crossover between the anti-Muslim Chetnik Serb nationalist ideology, and anti-Jewish German Nazism.
"It was genetically deformed material that embraced Islam," Biljana Plavsic, the president of the Republika Srpska from July 1996 to November 1998 - regarded as the ideologue who provided the pseudo-intellectual underpinning for the genocide - once said.
She was later sent to The Hague and convicted of war crimes. "And now, of course, with each successive generation it simply becomes concentrated," she continued.
'It really hurts when people deny the murder of your family. It is just like a dagger to the heart, as if they never even existed'
- Lilian Black, chair of the Holocaust Survivors' Association
"It gets worse and worse. It simply expresses itself and dictates their style of thinking, which is rooted in their genes. And through the centuries, the genes degraded further."
Plavsic was a former Fulbright scholar and acclaimed biologist, lending a chilling air of scientific callousness to the "Greater Serbia" ideology of Slobodan Milosevic.
Lilian Black, the chair of the Holocaust Survivors' Association and director of the Holocaust Heritage and Learning Centre for the North, was also on the trip.
Black was shocked by the culture of denial in Srpska, and drew comparisons with her own family's experiences.
"It really hurts when people deny the murder of your family. It is just like a dagger to the heart, as if they never even existed. When we got the Nazi records from the International Tracing Service in Germany of our family’s persecution it was a truly cathartic experience," she said.
"It was like saying yes they were here and this is what happened to them. It doesn't change their fate, but it is somehow a means to helping us accept what happened."
Bosnian Serb Nationalists' Trump links
Hungary was only a few hours drive from where we were standing, where Prime Miniser Viktor Orban has recently framed his own anti-refugee policy on distinctly religious grounds.
"Those arriving have been raised in another religion, and represent a radically different culture," Orban wrote in a commentary for Frankfurt Allgemeine Zeitung, a German newspaper.
"Most of them are not Christians, but Muslims."
In December, Slovakia banned public authorities from allowing Islam to be recognised as a religion.
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Potocari cemetery overlooking the old United Nations base (Rooful Ali/MEE)
In the recent Dutch election, Geert Wilders described Islam as "possibly even more dangerous than Nazism". During his election campaign, US President Donald Trump called for a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States".
One of the most disturbing aspects of our trip was the discovery of links between the new Trump administration and the genocide-denying tendency amongst Bosnian Serb nationalists.
Mayor Grujicic, who denies Srebrenica was a genocide, was invited to attend the prestigious National Prayer Breakfast event in Washington two weeks after Trump was inaugurated.
Grujicic said he hoped it would be "an opportunity to make contacts with some important persons, and I will try to do something useful for Srebrenica's residents".
Milorad Dodik, the president of the Republika Srpska, also received an invite to the Trump inauguration ceremony, extended by his transition team (before it was knocked down by a concerned US State Department).
'Nobody tries to argue that the Holocaust wasn't so bad because the allies also committed some war crimes'
Dodik has called Srebrenica "the greatest deception of the 20th century".
Our trip, which was organised by the British charity Remembering Srebrenica, was hosted by Bosnian Muslims who had fought or suffered greatly during the war.
Systematic Atrocities
None denied that crimes by Muslim fighters had also taken place against Serbs, but there was an important and qualitative difference between the two.
According to Azmi, who is now working on plans for a Srebrenica memorial centre in Britain, "Nobody tries to argue that the Holocaust wasn't so bad because the allies also committed some war crimes.
"Bosniak [Bosnian Muslim] war crimes were sporadic and isolated, and Bosniaks were fighting for a multi-ethnic, multi-religious society. Serb war crimes were organised and systematic, and Serbs were fighting for a mono-ethnic 'Greater Serbia'."
It is clear when you visit Srebrenica that what happened there in July 1995 was by far the greatest atrocity of the Yugoslav conflict.
It was also not an incident that can be understood simply by tracing out the mechanics of what took place minute by minute, hour by hour, on those particular days.
Srebrenica was the culmination of years of increasingly explicit anti-Muslim hate speech in the Serbian media, and in the speeches and rhetoric of figures like Slobodan Milosevic, and the Bosnian Serb political and military leaders, Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic.
Milosevic, who was overthrown in 2000, was extradited to The Hague and accused of genocide and other war crimes but died before his trial concluded. Karadzic and Mladic were both captured in Serbia, in 2008 and 2011, respectively, with the former found guilty of genocide and sentenced to 40 years in prison. Mladic's trial, in which he faces two indicted for two counts of genocide, is ongoing.
Yet the strength of their anti-Muslim ideology clearly lives on in Serbia and Republika Srpska. It is this that made us wonder - could a Srebrenica-style genocide in Europe happen again?
— Alastair Sloan focuses on injustice and oppression in the West, Russia and the Middle East. He contributes regularly to The Guardian, Al Jazeera and Middle East Eye. Follow Alastair's work at www.unequalmeasures.com
— Peter Oborne was named freelancer of the year 2016 by the Online Media Awards for an article he wrote for Middle East Eye. He was British Press Awards Columnist of the Year 2013. He resigned as chief political columnist of the Daily Telegraph in 2015. His books include The Triumph of the Political Class, The Rise of Political Lying, and Why the West is Wrong about Nuclear Iran.
— The views expressed in this article belong to the author and do not necessarily reflect the editorial policy of Middle East Eye.
— Photo: A Bosnian woman mourns over a coffin of a relative at the Potocari Memorial Center near the eastern Bosnian town of Srebrenica on 10 July 2015 where 136 bodies found in mass grave sites in eastern Bosnia will be reburied on 20th anniversary of the Srebrenica massacre. (AFP)
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