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watching them grow
Summary: Before there was us, there was one. There was I. Even though I was not technically the first, I was the origin of us.
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: Gen
Fandom: Batman - All Media Types
Characters: Damian Wayne's Pets, Damian Wayne, Batfamily Members (DCU)
Additional Tags: Batkids Age Reversal, Haunting Heroes Who Wrote That? (Danny Phantom and DCU), The Author Regrets Everything, POV Multiple, POV Outsider, POV Fourth Person, Canonical Character Death, Implied/Referenced Character Death, Time Skips, Cassandra Cain is Red Hood
#finemeal fics#dc#4th pov#damian wayne#damian wayne pets#Monkichi (Batman Ninja)#Jerry the Turkey#Wiggles the Dragon#Alfred the Cat#Bat-Cow#dc Titus#dc Goliath#batfam#i was in a silly goofy mood when i wrote this#it won't be everyone's taste#but that's okay#i wrote it for the chaos#and cuz i love damian's pets#art: coming eventually#an explanation on what 4th pov is: coming eventually#fanfic#dc fanfics
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4th POV
Hello! I've semi-recently discovered 4th POV, written a fic in it, and said I would explain what exactly 4th POV is. This is me finally living up to that promise. Strap in, it's both more and less complicated than you might think.
4th POV is when you describe something that is very similar to 1st and 3rd POV. You're discussing multiple characters (using pronouns that you most likely would use with 3rd POV) while using the viewpoint of those characters (as is most common with 1st POV). Basically, you get the intimacy that you typically get from the 1st POV while also getting to group characters together (representing multiple voices at the same time) like in 3rd POV.[2]
There are multiple benefits to writing 4th POV, such as setting a specific mood, portraying a groups thoughts, or broadening character's voices.[2]
Just like other POV's, 4th point of view isn't just one thing. There are multiple types of 4th POV. At the current moment in time, there are "collective" and "indefinite" types. Most commonly, you'll find yourself reading the collective type of 4th POV than the indefinite, but we'll discuss both in this post.[1]
The collective...
4th POV is when you're telling the story from multiple POV's but as if it's one entity. That's when you'll typically see the use of "us, we, ours" etc. And while this is similar to 1st POV, the difference is that in 4th POV you never use "I" or "me" or anything indicating a singular entity.[1]
This is a great option when you're wishing to tell a horror novel (think hive mind), critiquing social norms/larger institutions, or even if you just want to demonstrate how close a group of people are. "A Rose for Emily" by William Faulkner utilizes 4th POV to tell the story from an entire town's POV. "The Virgin Suicides" by Jeffrey Eugenides is also written in 4th POV to show a group of teenage boys.[3]
Another way to think about collective POV is that there are multiple narrators, but they are telling the story as one.[4] This could be from the perspective of a research team all taking notes, a couple telling a story together.[5] The important thing to remember is: there is no singular pronoun usage. That would make it 1st POV (plural) in most cases.[1]
Some examples...
For the collective would be:
1st POV: "We ran out into the rain without even stopping to put on shoes. I tripped on a tree root in my excitement, and the others got ahead of me. But soon enough, we were splashing around in the park."[1]
4th POV: "We ran out into the rain without even stopping to put on shoes. One of us tripped on a tree root, straggling behind. But soon enough, we were all together again, splashing around in the park."[1]
Freshwater by Akwaeke Emezi: "The first time our mother came for us, we screamed. We were three and she was a snake, coiled up on the tile in the bathroom, waiting."[2]
The Virgin Suicides by Jeffrey Eugenides: "They were short, round-buttocked in denim, with roundish cheeks that recalled that same dorsal softness. Whenever we got a glimpse, their faces looked indecently revealed, as though we were used to seeing women in veils."[3]
A Rose for Emily by William Faulkner: "We believed she had to do that. We remembered all the young men her father had driven away, and we knew that with nothing left, she would have to cling to that which had robbed her, as people will."[5]
The indefinite...
While this might be more used in grammar or scholarly writing, it is not as common in storytelling. It's more often used to avoid using passive voices or for generalizations. Words such as "one, someone, anybody" etc.[1]
Basically, the indefinite 4th POV only uses ... indefinite pronouns. That's why it's not very commonly utilized for storytelling as it's not as engaging and can cause a bit of separation between the reader and the story. It can be a bit awkward to use for story's the entire time, but it has some specific uses if you wish to utilize them.[5]
Some examples...
“If they're not careful, someone could break a leg on that thing!”[1]
“One should never leave one's elbows on the table while eating.”[1]
Or, if you wish to avoid the passive voice, you can write: “Someone can ride that bike now,” instead of, “That bike can be ridden now.”[1]
"One is in disbelief when waking up to find no car in the driveway. Someone stole it during the night, which now means a day one loses making reports to the police and insurance company."[5]
Conclusion...
There are multiple ways to write 4th POV, and multiple reasons you would utilize it. I would recommend trying it in small doses to get a feel for it, and decide if this POV is right for the story you're trying to tell. It might even just be a fun writing exercise to get you trying something new!
Either way, I hope this explains it well and why it's such a specific (and not very common) POV you can use in your writing. If you wish to explore more articles or people discussing and explaining 4th POV, I have also listed my sources below.
Happy reading and writing!
Sources: [1][2][3][4][5]
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Great and Tyme being worried about each other
4MINUTES (2024) EP. 5
#4 minutes#4 minutes the series#greattyme#thaidrama#uservix#userrlaura#raeblr#userbon#mjtag#rinblr#esmetracks#userrlana#userpetri#tusersilence#dramasource#dailyasiandramas#asianlgbtqdramas#fyeahthaidramas#tansgifs#gifs:fourm#i made this so i could stare at their expressions during those scenes truly masterclass in acting#the way you can feel great's pain in the 4th gif when tyme yells to let them try to kill him#the way great is just searching for anything to grasp at when showing his worry about tyme's well being didn't work in the 6th gif#and great desperately saying his grandma#he is so split between holding onto his parents and holding onto tyme because he doesn't want to lose what they have#and clearly he knows asking tyme to do it for him alone wouldn't work not only because he has no right to#but also because he simply doesn't think he even mean that much to tyme. it's not like he knows what it's like to mean stuff to people#i mean shit look at his relationship with his parents. so he uses grandma and it works#anyways i love the little smiles in gifs 14 15 16 when he can feel that tyme is worried about him#all i'm gonna say about tyme is we need to put that man on suiciide watch. anyways that's what I can say from great pov
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Fanart for Chapter 16 of Tarnished Gold by prim_the_amazing on ao3!
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(..) "-Binghe?"
And for just a split second, Gongyi Xiao brightens at the sight of him. For a split second, he smiles.
Then he stops, because Luo Binghe is kissing him. (..)
For just a moment, Luo Binghe closes his eyes and kisses him. Then he breaks and splinters the dream to pieces before he ever opens his eyes again, not letting himself see Gongyi Xiao’s reaction.
#guys i think of this fic a Normao Amount#PTA is so good at characterization and mental hoops GUYSSSSS....#my art#luo binghe#kinda. like dark grey binghe.#very dark grey. soot covered. sneezing and withering a glare binghe#shen yuan#gongyi xiao#svsss#scum villian self saving system#the rendering....YALL I DID RENDERING.......I USED MY MEAGER 15#HOURS OF SKILL FOR SMTH.......!!!!!#GYX from this fic is my . hm. i love him because i cant see in his brain but Get what hes thinking. knowing how he ticks and seeing him fro#an outside pov is such a goddamn yreat. got me coming back for 4ths and 5ths#binghes drivel to waxko zone over him is also endearing <3#tarnished gold#fic art
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So Wind just climbed up into the air and then disappeared. What now?
First
#From the boys' pov#lu comic#lu fanart#lu legend#lu wild#lu wind#lu time#breaking the 4th wall#where is wind now?
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POV: Sans heard your GENOCIDE Plans from the "Other Side."
(SAVING Papyrus Last Second.)
Transparent (Sans holdin' the inner frame):
Transparent (Sans hangin' on the window frame):
#undertale art#sans undertale#classic sans#sans and papyrus#undertale sans#undertale#4th wall break#through the screen#pov#ruelin024art
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— v. raison d'être
It was never going to last. They knew it from the beginning, all of them. Their time in the First was temporary, fleeting. For some, that would have been enough to give pause, to keep distance. For them, it made these moments all the more precious—even when it was difficult, even when it was unfair. Ryne knows they are both proud of her. That will never change, even when they live in separate worlds. It is a bittersweet thing to say goodbye, to close one chapter and begin the next. But change is necessary, a fundamental aspect of life. There is no sense in clinging to the past when the future—with all its countless possibilities—lies ahead. There is no looking back. Only forwards.
#ffxiv#final fantasy 14#ff14#gpose#gposers#warrior of light#thancred waters#ryne waters#wolcred#wolcred week#aureia malathar#oc tag#myreia screenshots#aurcred 2024#not me putting Aur in scouting gear and then giving her a rdm weapon 😔... which you can barely even see LOL#ryne looks like she's almost the same height as aur because of the angle but she's really not 😭#she's! so! tiny!!!!#anyway i don't think this is an actual scene or anything it's just - an impression of how they are at the end of 5.3.#i tried making this dreamlike and hazy but idk if it worked i regret having too much DOF and blurring out the stars#this is more ryne's POV than either of theirs - aureia's the one who can stay he's the one who has to leave#there's grief in that acceptance and it's bittersweet but it's also happy in a way#anyway aur and thancred's individual relationships with ryne is the glue of their relationship in shb#i don't think they would have gotten past their issues if not for her#what they have at the end of 5.0. + start of eden gives them a couple months of feeling like a normal family#joke's on them they're not normal nothing is normal the more they try to make things normal the more it's going to crash#the moment of reprieve was good but it was a bit of a fantasy and it wasn't going to last#urianger is here in spirit I'M SO SORRY HE SHOULD BE HERE HE'S PART OF THIS TOO 😭#i was too sleepy to pose a 4th character rip#urrrgghhh anyway i have so much to say about how lakeland is Aureia's home now and it's Ryne's home too but he can't be there byeeeeee 🙃#shadowbringers spoilers
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being a multi-pov viewer of the life series is having the intro video memorised by the time you're done with ep 1
#i'm finally watching all povs of dl but this applied to limi life so bad#'welcome to limited life where you have 24 HOURS TO LIVE' speak it along every time after the 4th#life series#crim speaks#double life smp#3rd life smp#limited life smp#last life smp#grian
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decembhyur, day 6: memory
you're gonna go far, kid.
#decembhyur2023#decembhyur#this was kinda tricky to do and it may look wonky because oml chiron is a giant. achille is 6ft and he's still short next to him#but anyway: this is from chiron's pov up until the last one. he's remembering achille and how he grew up. does that count for memory#no i'm not crying my eyes are sweating#so my lore on these two changed a bit; chiron raised achille since infancy now. tauvane abandoned him much earlier#first pic is when he was a wee sickly baby after being rescued by chiron#2nd and 3rd pics are of him being a rambunctious (got caught playing in mud) and sweet lil boy#4th pic is when achille got attacked by tauvane. he's hurting physically and emotionally over her rejection and started acting out#5th pic is him after dyeing his hair in an attempt to distance himself from her. chiron is saddened but he can't do anything#6th and 7th pics are of them in the present :')#achille never knew his actual father but he considers chiron his dad without hesitation#and chiron never thought he would be a father but he loves his son to death#that's his babyyyy ough#q.#mygposes.#ffxivsnaps#gposers#ffxiv gpose#ffxiv oc#hyur
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I’m on episode 71 of the orv webtoon. so he’s literally just been dissociating this whole time huh
#But he’s not completely out of it obv I’m just being a bit hyperbolic#But yeah. WILD.#Interesting that none of the renouncers have a similar dissociative state from being aware of the 4th wall#I get why they dont have the same exact ability bc dokja getting smthn extra from having read all of twsa makes sense#& random ppl shouldnt just have shit like. bookmark these guys powers teehee!! I just mean specifically dissociating in this way#ALSO more interesting when u remember that one renouncer who became a character I.e. got a character profile#Dokja: has the 4th wall ability. the ability to view his own actions from an outsider pov. like he’s Out of the story looking in#renouncers: don’t. are also the only real world people that can become characters#other real people: presumably they can’t become characters?? (if they can or can’t I don’t want to be spoiled)#But Also they act like npc’s/get a mental block when told about all this being from a fictional novel#What does it mean…. WHAT DOES IT ALL MEEEEAANNNNNN…#going post#orv
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Every so often I think about Lizzie in Last Life and how she just didn’t know what was going on, she didn’t understand.
Mostly everyone else had gone through the cycle already, they had an idea of what to expect and what things would or wouldn’t work, what you should or shouldn’t prioritize. Lizzie was operating blindly. She spent time making a ring of trees and a wooden house and that was her main base, and somehow she secured the allyship of Ren, BigB and Cleo, gained several extra lives from You Bet Your Life. She was doing alright actually
And then BigB happened. And Lizzie, unofficially the leader of that group, was trying so hard to keep her alliance together. She understood how it drives you mad being the boogeyman, how your heart pounds and your mouth is dry and your hands keep twitching towards a sword or a crossbow. She empathizes with Cleo, who had been betrayed by someone she trusted and cared about. Lizzie knew Cleo, but she didn’t know Cleo and couldn’t have known how the betrayal would wreck her trust with the whole alliance.
Then Cleo burns down Lizzie’s whole fort. And Lizzie and BigB move into Ren’s yard. And she’s got to keep going, keep quiet even when Ren invites Martyn to come replace Cleo and gives them silly nicknames like nothing ever happened.
And once she’s red, it’s not uncontained bloodlust, she has a specific hitlist. This time, the bloodlust is less frantic. It’s calmer, it lets her take her time and plan how to feed it.
Then she dies and she is still confused. She doesn’t know that Bdubs had made a deal with his old team, doesn’t know he’s got a life waiting for him if he takes hers. In her eyes, she was just murdered randomly.
#traffic smp#last life smp#last life lizzie#her story in ll is so interesting to me and it’s so underrated I think#she was in a good position for a while until it all just fell apart#ig the same vibes apply to Mumbo but I didn’t watch his pov#not Pearl tho she went crazy with it and cracked 4th on her first go round
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curiosity
#trafficsmp#life series#third life#last life#double life#limited life#double life is my favorite <3#mainly cause i watched like#half of the povs#and generally went Insane#limited life is second#cause its fresh in my mind#third life is third#(fitting ik)#and limited life is ny 4th favorite#IM SORRY SOUTHLANDERS💔💔💔💔#anyways
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1871 (14 y/o) Daniel and parallel profiles for the chat. Don’t think I’ve ever drawn a face in side view that good, let alone a TEENAGER.
#ayreon#transitus#he’s having an absolutely normal healthy childhood what are you talking about#pov your town does a 4th of July party and the aristocrats you pay rent to bring their second kid you keep forgetting they have#sketch#rock opera#concept album
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Also a little catch up
Team BOLAS?!!??!? (Red) have pretty much given up on trying to win and are thought to be the cursed team since everyone just keeps dying and they don’t have 4 of their members there. So the wins might just be between Blue and Green
#qsmp#qsmp purgatory#qsmp november 4th#they have gone insane#to the point where Bags said to kill Pomme😞😞😞#they were one of my favorites#there povs look funny tho
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slimariana are so funny because they'll have canon sex 6 times on 4 separate occasions and they'll be dressed differently each time
#first slimeriana sex was in mariana pov with their regular skins after mariana and flippa were building his house together#(slime was offstream)#second time was clocks by coldplay court case sex. they were both wearing suits. mariana had a wedding ring on#third time was when the brazillians joined. mariana was in a maid dress and slimecicle in the bunny suit. mariana spit in his mouth#4th 5th & 6th time was purgatory. slimecicle was butt ass naked muddied with a gas mask on and mariana looked divine and ethereal like a go#(mariana had a wedding ring on this skin too)#get- get you a mc couple who would have sex wearing different skins each time ☠️☠️#also i put this on queue so i will be fast asleep mimimi in bed when this posts. i want everyone to know this is set to post at 6.30am#edit: reread my tags. mariana looked divine and ethereal like a GOD. i hate myself
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still thinking ab this
(source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6110609/Anna-Kendrick-reveals-like-kiss-Simple-Favor-star-Blake-Lively.html)
#bechloe#anna kendrick#brittany snow#pitch perfect#i was thinking ab a simple favor and wanted different povs on emily and stephanies relationship#particularly about the kiss and what it meant for both of them#because when you finish the movie it’s like….#explain pls#so idk#found that nugget in there#rooting for a 4th pitch perfect now sadly
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