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{D I G I M O N} Adventure: [2020 Reboot/Spin-off] ~ Episode 02 (Japanese version) + D I G I T A L {P r o j e c t i o n}!Taichi's {A d v i s o r}!Koushiro + Yamato & Koushiro Interaction{s} {YamaKou} + (Bonus) Taichi & Koushiro {KouTai} / {TaiKou} / {Taishiro[u]}

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[tobiasdrake]

I'd say that Tri, Last Kizuna and 02 The Beggining are a tad of a weird approach to try and bank into nostalgia, but not letting go the concept of "no you have to say goodbye to the 'mons"... which doesn't work after 02's epilogue. And then Adventure 2020 happened, and forgot that it was supposed to be an assemble show.

I don't have a problem with nostalgia banking, but Last Evolution Kizuna wanted really badly to be Toy Story 3 and failed. That, I take a lot of issue with.

There's a lot of heated debate surrounding LEK. The idea that the kids' partnerships with their Digimon break because it's time to put away childish things and grow up is extremely contentious within the fandom, but it's also not universally agreed that the film is even saying that thanks to translation issues with the subs and also some very ambiguous imagery with the ending.

There are basically two different interpretations of what happens in LEK.

1 - Sora, Taichi, Yamato, Jou, Mimi, and Koushiro all lose their Digimon Partners because they enter adulthood - but not Takeru and Hikari because they still have a few years to go.

This is a natural occurrence and the result of growing up. They have no choice and no agency in the matter; The Universe takes their Partners away because they're too old to be playing with toys anymore, and they just need to fucking suck it up and deal.

2 - Sora, Taichi, and Yamato lose their Digimon Partners because they're too irresponsible with their adulthood. Mimi, Jou, and Koushiro do not because they're responsible adults and are balancing their adult lives and their love for their Partners well.

What happens to Sora, Taichi, and Yamato is a rare and unusual occurrence, but there is hope that they will one day find their Partners again once they've gotten their heads on straight and made their way as adults.

For obvious reasons, the film is very unpopular with fans who take the first interpretation and pretty well-liked with fans who take the second. Which one is actually the valid and intended reading? Well. It's complicated. The movie went through a tumultuous creative process, to the point that Adventure series director Kakado Hiroyuki walked out on production midway through over disagreements and inconsistencies to the original series.

Which is, y'know, always a promising sign for a new entry in a series.

Watching the film, for me, it honestly feels like both readings are intended. Which is to say, you can find evidence to support either/or. I don't think that's deliberate, I just think the film was sloppily made and shows signs of conflicting creative visions.

Proponents of the Good Movie interpretation can point to the villain of the film, whose central motivation is literally that having your Partner taken away because you grew up is some fucking bullshit. In its final act, the film reveals that her Partner did come back - Just in an unrecognizably different form, not as the Partner she knew.

So the natural conclusion then is that Agumon and Gabumon will reincarnate and may find their way back to Taichi and Yamato; They just won't be Agumon and Gabumon. Which still contradicts the 02 epilogue despite proponents of the Good Movie interpretation insisting that 02's epilogue is still canon to LEK.

Which itself has evidence to support it (Taichi and Yamato are on their way to becoming the people they are in the epilogue) and evidence to refute it (Agumon and Gabumon fucking died).

As the translation breakdown in the above link shows, there's also some phrasing issues that created confusion. Gennai in the official English version describes losing your Partnership as a typical occurrence while, in the original Japanese, he seems to describe this more like a rare thing that he doesn't fully understand.

It's explained that what's happening is the narrowing of potential. Children have infinite potential, which something something Digimon Partnerships. As you make choices with your life, you narrow your potential, and eventually it can no longer sustain a partnership - Unless you're able to become an adult with limitless potential anyway!

That seems like it's setting Taichi and Yamato up to figure out their shit and save their Partnerships at the last second. But they figure out their shit and still lose their Partners, which gets described in the end as a rite of passage.

The blog with the big translation breakdown I linked above makes a note of the difference between the official translation, "This is how we finally grew up," and a more accurate translation, "This is how we arrived at the entrance to adulthood." As they say, it shouldn't be translated with finality.

But that's splitting hairs, because either version is still saying that losing Agumon and Gabumon was Taichi and Yamato's rite of passage from childhood into adulthood. Whether they've become adults or taken their first steps into adulthood doesn't actually matter; it's still describing this loss as the gateway that brought them there, which is the point of contention.

They did what they were supposed to do, they were still punished for it, and then they close by describing it as if it were an inevitable consequence of growing up despite what Gennai said. Which may or may not be corroborated by what happened to Jou, Mimi, and Koushiro.

Proponents of the Good Movie interpretation will point to Jou, Mimi, and Koushiro as proof that not everyone loses their Partners. Proponents of the Bad Movie interpretation will point to those same characters as proof that everyone does. This is due to a fundamental disagreement in how you interpret the final scenes.

At no point does the film ever say, with words, that Jou, Mimi, and Koushiro lose their Partners. But it does conclude with these images:

The final shots of Taichi, Yamato, and Sora show them to be moving forward with their adult lives, with no Digimon. The younger kids Takeru and Hikari's slides contain Patamon and Tailmon. There are also slides for the 02 characters, which show their Digimon Partners still taking an active role in their lives too.

But Jou, Koushiro, and Mimi? No Partners in their slides.

Good Movie fans will say that the film never says explicitly that they lost their Partners, so this means nothing. Their partners are probably just offscreen somewhere.

Bad Movie fans will say that these slides are meant to show the older kids moving on with their lives post-Digimon and the younger kids still having their Digimon Partnerships. There's a clear contrast between Hikari and Takeru's slides versus Taichi, Yamato, and Sora's - and Jou, Koushiro, and Mimi are presented like Taichi, Yamato, and Sora here, not like Hikari and Takeru.

Good Movie fans have the counterpoint to be made that their Partners still exist in 02's epilogue. So, y'know, canon faithfulness says that everyone's Digimon will come back or was never lost. Checkmate, naysayers.

But also Last Evolution Kizuna basically ignores Tri and makes no attempt to address the questions it left hanging, and also the Adventure story director walked out of production over inconsistencies to the original so I don't think you can really use canon faithfulness as a talking point here.

Taichi and Yamato are still on their way to becoming an ambassador and an astronaut respectively, so the epilogue hasn't been thrown out entirely. But it clearly has been thrown out. Jou was supposed to become a doctor in the Digital World, Sora was supposed to become a fashion designer instead of inheriting her mom's ikebana mastery, and Mimi was supposed to become a chef instead of selling cosmetics.

Yeah, Taichi and Yamato are still on-track to a similar life path than what the epilogue gave them, but nobody else is. So I don't think the movie is actually as faithful to 02 as the Good Movie side thinks it is. And apparently neither does Kakado Hiroyuki.

For me, I do think they were trying to say it's time for the kids to put away childish things and grow up. I don't think they meant that to be insulting. But I do think it's kind of insulting.

I think they were trying to do what Toy Story 3 did; To tell a story about the rite of passage from childhood to adulthood and what that means for the things we loved and enjoyed as kids. But I don't think that story works when the putting away of childish things is something cosmically forced on the children rather than a choice they make with their own agency.

Toy Story 3 wouldn't have landed the way it did if the movie was about Andy's mom pinning him down by the arms while garbagemen come in and throw Buzz and Woody into a woodchipper. But that's kind of what Last Evolution Kizuna does to the Adventure kids.

Taichi and Yamato get to give a powerful emotional farewell to Agumon and Gabumon. But they don't want to, they are not making this choice for themselves, and no reason is ever provided for why they should have to. And even the best defenses of the film just make it out to be a weird, random cosmic blip that maybe they'll fix some day, who knows.

Even in the best-case scenario, the universe just decided to grievously hurt Yamato and Taichi for no reason even though they were already making strides to undo the thing they were allegedly being punished for. It's still mean-spirited and cruel even in the best possible interpretation.

So. Yeah. All things considered, I find myself falling on the side of "It's a bad movie and I don't accept it as part of my personal Digimon canon." I don't accept that the children need to all have their Digimon deleted once they enter into adulthood, and I equally don't accept that they don't need to have that happen but that Taichi and Yamato deserved to have their Digimon ripped away from them at the end. There is no version of this movie that I actually like.

[koushirouizumi]

[Index] Koushiro{u} Izumi {DigiAdvs} Scenes (J.P.N Ver.)

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{Adventure}

Ep02: Koushiro + rapid Maths Calculations {+Moments; with Jou} Ep05: Inside the Battery; Interests + Adoption {+ Friendly; with Tentomon} Ep10: Koushiro Guides Mimi Out The Maze {+Friendly; with Mimi} Ep13: Koushiro stands to signal support for Taichi’s decision {Friendly} Ep18: Koushiro and Yamato discuss their Crests {+Friendly; with Yamato} Ep20; vs. Etemon Arc (Near-End); Koushiro assisting Taichi Ep21: Hosoda!Koushiro; Communicating from Vademon’s Dimension? {+Moments; with Taichi} [+Taichi’s Monologuing that follows in relation] Ep24: Searching for Crest; & Vademon’s Dimension {+Friendly; with Tentomon} Ep24: Koushiro’s laptop + “Cosmic Power”?? activates communication with Taichi Ep24; Koushiro regains Inquisitive Heart + “I Want to Know!” {+Friendly; with Tentomon} Ep24: Koushiro Snaps Awake {+Friendly; with Tentomon} Ep28 vs Tri. Kyousei: Motimon/Tentomon’s “Bond” {“Kizuna”} with Koushiro Ep28: The Gate sequence {+Friendly, with Taichi} + Part 2 Ep28: Ending moment; Taichi with hand on Koushiro’s shoulder Ep29 x Tri. Soushitsu x 2020 Ep59: Motimon / Tentomon Parallels Ep30: Koushiro {physically} intervening to defend Jou / Pushed from Bridge Ep31: Koushiro’s Polite{ness} +(J.P.N) speech {+Familial; with Mrs. Izumi} Ep31: Koushiro’s Excuses + Adopted!Koushiro Scene {+Familial; with Mrs. Izumi} Ep31: Koushiro’s Bad/bland jokes + Adopted!Koushiro  {+Familial; with Izumis} Ep31: Koushiro’s Guilt + Adopted!Koushiro & Izumi’s concern + Taichi’s worry Ep36: “Just leave your computer behind!” {+Familial; with Izumis} + “Let’s BELIEVE in Koushiro, in our son.” - Mr. Izumi, to Mrs. Izumi [Koushiro sets up Gennai’s “barrier”; Izumis discover Tentomon] Ep36: Koushiro sets off to help the fight; Izumis send him off with love Ep38: the Adoption reveal / “It’s not wrong for you to be obsessed with Computers!” Ep38: Koushiro & Izumis Figure Out the Prophecy {+Familial; with Izumis} Ep39: Koushiro Displaying Compassion for Parents {+Familial; with Izumis} Ep45: Yamato & JouMi Leave the Group {+Moments; with Yamato & Chosen} Ep48: vs. Mugendramon Arc (Start); Koushiro showing concern for Yagamis Ep48: vs. Mugendramon Arc; +Andromon; Fake-Fights {+Friendly; with Taichi} Ep48: vs. Mugendramon Arc; Taichi’s Confession {+Friendly; with Taichi} Ep50: Koushiro (Totally Not) Showing off Skills {with Adv!Chosen; & Taichi} Eps 52~53: “Why WON’T YOU LET ME FIGHT?!?” {+Interaction, with Taichi} Ep52: vs. Piemon; crying out for Jou + teary-eyed {+Friendly; with Jou} Ep53: (Near End) Koushiro’s realizations {+Friendly; with Tentomon} + Tentomon: “But that’s what I like about you” Ep53: (Near End) Adventure Lore about The Crests

[deathberi]

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[droshawoluv]

For a while I've been thinking of putting words why Digimon Adventure 2020 doesn't make me want to be super invested into it (but still entertained) and it all boils down to: it doesn't make me cry lmao.

I love that, I love being invested in that and characters having emotional rollercoaster everywhere and traumatic backstories or memories and then I am crying along Taichi feeling a deep rooted guilt because how almost killed his own sister, or how they see Digimon get brutally killed and instead of being scarred for life they are like "oh no...anyway off to victory!"

But I have to admit it's nonsensical fun and just a good time at points, which is what I want for every time the destined children are together (which is another issue, when they join they split, when they reunite they are drifted away, when they make it back they are drifted away again). But when it happens, there are fun moments just like every Mimi and Joe episode 🤣 (is the potatomon a reference to Joe singing "Kaze no fraido potato"? Because that's make it a 10/10)

It's frustrating maybe if the OTT plot in the real world appears and gets solved in between the main journey, are we fighting Devimon or are we helping the NASA, or both? Why is Omegamon appearing so much? When did their Crest meaning have to do with something? + the timing or moments or reason behind every new evolution may give that "eh that wasn't as satisfying". But if I look it just as the silly fun and COOL AS FUCK animations and moves, then I have fun myself! Accepting that I won't be crying just of imagining what a character may feel, and see them do stuff made it to me to enjoy it more, I like the wild digimon leveling up because survivor of the fittest type of thing, and they do show nice relationship between each other (in fact, one of the best moments are when there is no ISS crisis AND they are still together as group):

Taichi being a source of support and encouragement to Koushiro, the siblings relationship, Taichi and Sora being that 1-2 leading combo and being the reliable parents. Yamato being that cool tsun tsun but not annoying dude. Mimi is always queen in every universe. Joe using Zudomon hammer what the fuck go off king. Cute things to catch up from that.

And also, the fact that I don't have to watch the same attacking animation 17890 times through the show is so important. Imagine Digimon Adventure or Tamers with these animations, is insane. I thought the warpevolution was already cool, seeing Wargreymon appearance not the first, but the second time show an animation that was the coolest evolution animation ever in that technical stuff.

In summary, a lot of things to not care about the whole of it (so far, chapter 40 already), but taking bits individually (that you may completely forget because it's irrelevant to the big scene) is actually cool! Some I can remember off the top of my head are

Mimi chan kingdom; Joe and Gomamon speaking before Ikkakumon evolution; Yamato having a small "wow these bozos are caring about me and supporting me? Is this...FRIENDSHIP?" bc you know, his crest and all; the way MetalGreymon evolved, like, is not better than the OG of course, but I mean how he was fighting a bigger dude and for MANY times they were trying but not giving up, as in, showing their courage, made sense; Lillymon and the whole nature defeating the machinery of Andromon; Holy Digimon being special and focusing on that; Tailmon fears and struggles up to its Angewomon evolution (MarineDevimon was a good idea to put there); the one solving the ISS crisis being Koshiro not just in knowledge but in action trusted by his friends and leader Taichi; Taichi and Sora playing football together heck yeah cuties show how well you both combine for everything and be cute in front of my salad (they are making it on purpose, Taichi gets trapped and immediately the Love emblem shines to evolve to Garudamon).

Is there a Team Light and Team Hope coming apparently? That's cute. Looking forward to it.

Anyway, just wanted to write about it for so long since I have that "ok I get where this is heading and it's to not make me cry" feeling but I have different thoughts, not mostly bad or anything.

Should start making Gifs of these moments I loved.

[shinkoxyagami]

Digimon Adventure 2020 episode 29

Escape the burning jungle🔥

This episode was fire.. I loved everything about it.. Here's my biggest edit tribute yet of an episode on this series..

The fights moments were incredible.. The way Taichi acted and even that deep down he is sad about what Hikari did and how she left him and Skullnightmon kidnapped her, I loved the way he expressedhis emotionsduring the episode especially at the near end.. Agumon encouraging Taichi to not give up.. And others support him.. How woodmon and those cute budmon and of course our others holy digimon Lopmon apeard... Taichi caring and holding him like that was so precious.. The sadness we got from seeing those poor digimons die.. Seeing the rule of this digital world and how life goes in it.. The crazy situation that like Koushiro said it's the calm before storm.. Mimi, Joe, Takeru, Yamato's actions during the episode.. And how lovely a s surprisingly Sora apeard.. it was so precious that those little digimons fought alongside Taichi to help him.. Even tho they were week it was a nice touch.. And the hype at the end that it's not over...

I'm surprised how some people say this episode was a waste of time.. It has a lot of great moments and feelings it.. It was incredible.

[whookami]

I feel like Digimon Adventure (2020) has wasted it’s potential. Sure, the story is new, creating new dynamics, but the characters... they are so meh. Okay, so Tai is pretty much the same, yay for him, but most of the other kids have been robbed of the traits that made them interesting, that made them feel like more than just 2D characters in a fictional world.

Sora doesn’t have her struggles with how she feels about love, her complex relationship with her mother’s overprotectiveness, coupled with her own sense of responsibility. Koushiro isn’t struggling with his sense of belonging (as much, there are tiny hints), his unresolved issues about being adopted and feeling like he doesn’t have a real home with the people he cares about. Mimi isn’t being dragged down and forced to see the horrors of war, she’s shown to be immediately bouncing back after terrible losses and conflicts, rather than having to find the inner strength to choose her own path and forge ahead on her own. Jou’s struggles with school do still exist, and his practical nature, but they don’t feel as solid as in the original, as much of an obstacle for him to overcome in accepting his place as a Digidestined. Takeru isn’t suffering from the need to prove himself, constantly feeling helpless and like he is constantly being babied, as from almost the moment he appears in the Digital World everyone knows he’s got the most powerful digimon, who also manages to unlock an armour evolution when he can’t immediately evolve back into Angemon. Hikari is...weirder in this. Does she have a personality at all besides blank curiosity and belief in Taichi? Maybe. I guess we’ll have to see. And Yamato, poor poor Yamato who has basically had the core of his character excised and then just... not replaced with anything else compelling. Yamato’s issues with his own worth and his responsibility for his brother, who he hardly gets to see due to his parents’ divorce, how he babies Takeru and treats him like he’s helpless, then coupled with Tai’s seeming competence as a leader and how he’s bonding with Takeru and treating him as more of an equal, sparking Yamato into a spiral of doubt and jealousy???? Now he’s just kinda stoic and strategic, and also blatantly supports Takeru being involved in their fight and taking risks, which okay, from the original would be great character development, but this version just jumps right into being okay with his tiny tiny brother being on the front lines in a war??

Also, not sure yet how this will pan out as the character has only just been (re)introduced, but Tailmon (or Gatomon, for the sake of nostalgia). She was the most interesting Digimon originally due to her being hatched and brought up separately, surrounded by the darkness and knowing that something inside herself was missing, but going along with what she’d been taught until Wizardmon finally helped set her on the right path.

Oh, also, Tai going crazy and this version’s take on the SkullGreymon idea was so weak. Tai wasn’t being reckless or careless or trying to use his power like a cudgel, forcing Agumon to evolve. It was in the heat of a very serious battle and their actions made sense, but were painted as being the ‘wrong’ actions because the plot needed them to seem that way?? Of course Agumon’s gonna go dinosaur crazy upon seeing Tai get eaten. It was weak.

All this good character stuff is gone, and what replaces it so far had been drab, boring, and always easily overcome. In the original series Yamato didn’t get over his issues until like, episode 53!! The characters really struggled with their issues, went through ups and downs, made mistakes, learned over time to fix them. I feel like these new takes are static, not growing or changing due to their situations, just bouncing from one problem to the next without anything really sticking to them. Nothing feels like it has any consequences and I don’t relate to what the kids are going through because it’s just a bunch of huge monster battles without any emotional context besides surviving.

Final thought: Also, how the actual fuck are the kids staying on their Digimon during all these attacks?? Pegasmon literally turns into a whirling vertical disc of death and Takeru is on his back the whole time and isn’t barfing afterwards like a kid who ate before riding the Gravitron???

[holyhikari]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YELLS IN RAINBOW DIGICODE! everything is so pretty in the reboot I don’t even mind the evolution sequences anymore.

I wasn’t able to watch episode 5 and 6 until yesterday, and I’m sO HYPED for the 2020 adventure timeline now! I loved how they introduced us to some of the lore of this universe and a prophecy (the pastel rainbow + greek architecture imagery of the temple had me shaking) right away, and it’s interesting that in this incarnation our dear mons apparently have memories of a mysterious past and a war they fought in. I don’t think it’s connected to the pre-reboot timeline or kizuna or anything, fortunately. I want to see this becoming its own thing. 

Valdurmon is our big rainbow bird and so far they’ve been fulfilling the role of Gennai explaining stuff. Aldurmon is majestic. I love them. Where’s Gennai. I also love Gennai.

also UHMMMMMM there were six eggs.

CONCERN. 

Seraphimon and Ophanimon did appear, though. They were alongside Cherubimon (!!!!!) and some other powerful mons I couldn’t make out (MEICOOMON?!!?)

so I think we only see six eggs because the six mons of the older kids were ‘regular’ mons who fought Devimon/Apocalymon/all the evil incarnate in the old days, and Hikari’s Tailmon and Takeru’s Patamon are the reincarnations of two of the sacred mons; namely, two of the Three Archangels. So I wonder if we’ll also meet a Lopmon? Like in Frontier. But obviously there were more than three (again: MEICOOMON?!!?), so. I have no idea —  perhaps by “Sacred Digimon,” Valdurmon meant the Three Archangels + those new ones. What kind of insane powers will Takeru and Hikari have now? Much doubt, much excitement. 

(I apologize if someone already put it like this, I haven’t gotten around to read many reviews.)

We have the little bat thingies acting like Devimon’s rings. (Edit: I meant gears, not rings. I just turned Devimon into Ken.) We have Ogremon fully operating on pissed off & existencial crisis mode, not a Leomon in sight. But I have faith. Devimon’s abs are much more defined now, and I am a pervert apparently. Sue me, he’s hot.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH Mimi’s episode has been my favorite so far!!!!!!!!! Her characterization is spot on! They managed to balance out her being a little brat and extremely sweet so well. I was worried they’d go too deep too fast into the spoiled princess archetype and have her come off as way more insensitive than she is, poor kid. And GRANDPA? WE'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH MORE TACHIKAWAS?!  ;;also, Taichi and Sora immediately recognized the kindness inside her. Taichi played along with her kingdom and even called her queen, I love my boy. Then Mimi called her new supportive friends servants #72 and #73. God tier group dynamic right here.

I am living for the glitchy aesthetic of this anime. Seriously. Sometimes at the corner of the screen you can see the Digital World glitching a bit and it’s honestly so satisfying. I am pleased. 

Palmon’s data almost vanishing out of existence was less pleasant to watch, but it was pretty nonetheless. So it’s fine.

It’s amazing how Mimi and Palmon already saw I love you to each other — and don’t you think I didn’t see Sora blushing at the open display of affection. This had me intrigued. So far Sora has been lovely, and don’t get me wrong — she is baby —, but I’m missing my emotionally constipated girl who couldn’t stand Piyomon doting on her when they met, lmao. Hopefully, we’ll get a closer look at their relationship soon. As for Koushiro, it was so cute his little moment with Kabuterimon. “Oh I think I came to this world to meet you. [heart emoji]” “Sorry could you repeat that Koushiro-han.” “REPEAT WHAT?”  

Next time (tomorrow!) THAT BOI IS JYOU KIDO! Personally, I think Jyou and Gomamon’s dynamic is the more unique of the group — you gotta get the teasing and the banter right! —, and my favorite, so it’s the one I’m anticipating the most (alongside Hikari and Tailmon’s, because that’s just who I am, fundamentally, as a person.) Since Yamato already debuted and Gabumon evolved pre-canon, I’m assuming we’ll see him again right after Jyou, but instead of a shinka episode we’ll probably get some backstory? [eyes emoji]

Now that I’m too attached, I’m officially moving on from calling the reboot Digimon Adventure Psi. I’ll be using Digimon Adventure 2020 (and #da: spoilers) from now on. Thank you for coming to my DigiTalk. 

[ahiddenpath]

Digimon Adventure 2020 Ep 14 Reaction

Hey!  I’ve got a great idea!  Let’s address the issue adjacent to Koushiro’s actual issue!  THE KIDS WILL LOVE IT!

(I’m joking, this was a cute ep, but as always...)

Hahahaha, oh man!  I am dying!  This was such a fun episode, and I don’t really wanna throw shade at all, but ultimately...  I think it fell a little flat by not quite addressing the concern I’d most want to hash out with wee baby 10-year-old Kou-chan.

But first!  Some notes!

IKKAKUMON IS  THE ABSOLUTE CUTEST SWEETHEART, I am literally here for Gomamon and Tentomon in the reboot.  The humans?  Sure, whatever.  GIVE ME GOMAMON.

And I’m dying over Yamato and Gabumon.  At first, I thought they really were scouting ahead a bit, although walking about two yards ahead doesn’t... help much (presumably, Ikkakumon can see father out because he’s tall).  And then, in the end, when Jyou finally fell asleep and shut up...  THEN Yamato hopped onto Ikkakumon!

I can’t even blame him, lol!  I’ve never wanted to smack Jyou upside the head before, but his, “Hahaha, you don’t know what scouting means?  WELL, as the oLdEsT, I will tell you!”  Shut up, dude.  I’mma smack!  Smack!  BAD SENPAI!

And I absolutely died at Togemon’s “COCONUT COUNTER!”  And, “HEY, COME ON!” (or something like that) in English.

AND LET’S TALK ABOUT TENTOMON.  Okay, so Ten-chan?  He’s, like...  He’s like???  A weird, supportive, loving... Osakan... uncle???  Which is to say that he’s like Tentomon, I guess, but I LOVE HIM SO MUCH.  He’s getting the pulp beaten out of him and he’s 100% concerned about little Kou-chan’s sense of helplessness without his tablet.  I love his energy and weirdness and kindness and...  Just how much active attention he pays to Koushiro, all packed into a visually horrifying giant buggo.  Absolutely wonderful.

But.

I dunno, this kinda reminds me of Saikai?  Where I understood Taichi’s hesitation and concern about fighting in Tokyo from his first fight with Kuwagamon near Fuji Station...  And then Saikai flashbacks to stills of the broken cell phone and streets like twelve times, and you consider making a drinking game of it, but decide that you want to live.

Panning to Koushiro looking at his tablet fifty times and having a helpless look was overkill, is what I’m saying.  Like...  I shouldn’t get bored/impatient with the setup while waiting for the payoff.  I’ll give the Reboot more slack with this, because it’s aimed at children, whereas Tri was supposedly aimed at adults, but...  Kids are smart, dude.

And I think the biggest sticking point is that...  I absolutely want Kou-chan to know that he can think and act without the tablet.  But what I really want to know is...  Why is his self worth 100% pinned on how helpful he is to others?  Like, this problem feels like step 0.5 in a fifty step program towards self confidence, lol!  But hey, there’s plenty of episodes left!  

I’m trying to think- I’m at that point where I’ve written so much Koushiro fanfics that I’m having trouble remembering what was canon...  Have we ever truly dove into Koushiro’s self esteem issues?  We’ve seen him blossom as the others come to trust and turn to him, explicitly starting with Taichi at the gate in Vamdemon’s castle.  By 02, he’s the resident exposition man/original Chosen guru for the new kiddos.  By Tri, he has his own fancy ass office and is making distortion goggles and a digital safe room for the digis.  By Kizuna, he has his own company...

But does anyone ever tell him that he doesn’t have to stay up for three days straight, trying to help everyone alone in his office?  Does anyone tell him that they’re worried about him?  Like, I know Jyou comes by and cleans up and tells him to sleep, and Taichi has a single, “Don’t push so hard” line in the fourth film, but like...

I really, really want to see someone tell Koushiro, canonically, that they’d love him even if he couldn’t reason his way out of a paper bag.

Like, I’ve always admired and pointed out that Koushiro is so helpful, always, that he will always try to help if he’s just approached with basic respect- and often, he’s already working on something.  I really love this about him!  I just...  Want someone to say, “Hey dude, I’m glad you’re here!  You’re awesome because of [thing that isn’t Koushiro using his intelligence to be helpful].”

Instead, I’m getting, “Hey, you’re helpful even without the computer!  Good job!”  And clearly, this boosted Reboot Kou’s confidence, which I love!  It’s a step in the right direction, and I shouldn’t even be complaining!  This is literally one of those, “This isn’t exactly what I wanted to see, but objectively there is nothing wrong with it and it was good.”  Ie, Hidden is being a baby!

But next time, Ten-chan, Taichi, instead of “You’re always helpful,” can’t we just say, “You’re always loved?”  I know for a fact that they both love him already in the Reboot, especially Ten-chan.

BUT!  Baby steps!  There is so much series left!  And in the meantime, FANFIC!

AND EVERYONE, YOU MATTER JUST FOR BEING YOU, NOT BECAUSE OF STUFF YOU CAN DO/HOW HELPFUL YOU CAN BE!  I LOVE YOU!  OKAY BYE!

[band-geek-727]

Daiken Week 2020: Day 1 - Kindness/Miracles

“You ever think it’s weird how close they are?”

Koushiro looked up from his laptop. “Who?”

Taichi pointed across the table where he, Yamato, Koushiro, and Jyou were studying, and into the Ichijouji’s living room where Daisuke, Ken, Takeru, and Iori were playing Mario Kart.

“Oh,” Koushiro said. “Well, they are younger than the rest of us. Certainly it’s easier to relate to someone closer to your own-“

“No, not all of them,” Taichi cut in. “Daisuke and Ken!”

A burst of laughter punctuated his statement. Daisuke and Ken seemed to be more interested in messing with each other than winning the race, pushing each other off the course and setting up elaborate traps with the power ups. All the while they jostled on the couch, trading playful shoves and taunts, totally comfortable getting in each other’s space. Takeru had taken advantage of their distraction to slide into first place, while Iori cruised along in fifth.

“You’ve seen it, right?” Taichi pressed. “Ever since Ken stopped being the Kaiser, those two have been inseparable.”

Koushiro brought one hand to his chin, squinting thoughtfully into the living room. “I have noticed that they seem to spend more time together than any of us…”

“And have you noticed how… how protective they are of each other? Daisuke flies off the handle if anyone says a bad word about Ken. That one time digimon showed up in the real world, he wouldn’t come with me and Hikari ‘cause he was so worried about Ken. And Ken is like… always at Daisuke’s side! It’s like they’ve got some weird psychic link.”

Koushiro glanced sidelong at him. “Well, they are Jogress partners…”

Taichi shook his head. “Not like the others. Hikari told me when Daisuke and Ken first Jogressed, they moved and spoke in sync for a while. Daisuke even said he could feel Ken’s heartbeat! None of the others mentioned anything like that.” He turned to Yamato. “And it definitely didn’t happen with us!”

Yamato didn’t look up from his textbook. “No one would want to feel your heartbeat, anyway.”

Taichi shoved Yamato. The blonde elbowed him in the side. The ensuing scuffle had Koushiro sighing heavily.

From across the table, Jyou let out a thoughtful hum. “I think it makes sense, if you think about their relationship as a whole.”

Taichi looked up from trying to put Yamato in a headlock. “What do you mean?”

Jyou tapped his pen against his notebook as he turned to face the others. “Well, think about how they met. They were on opposite sides of a conflict, at first. Ken needed to be stopped, obviously, but he was also clearly alone and vulnerable. He needed friends. And who reached out to him first?”

“Daisuke,” Taichi answered automatically, feeling a surge of pride for his protégé. “But that’s because he has the Crests of Friendship and Courage.”

Jyou nodded. “True, but it was also an act of kindness. No one supported Daisuke reaching out to Ken at first, and even Ken had a hard time forgiving himself. But Daisuke couldn’t leave Ken alone with that burden. And don’t you think it was brave of Ken to join the others after what he’d done, to face his mistakes and make up for them?”

Koushiro was watching Jyou intently. Even Yamato had abandoned his studying entirely.

Taichi shook his head. “I guess I never really thought about it like that…”

Jyou reached up to adjust his glasses. “Looking at everything they’ve gone through, their strengths – their Crests – aligned perfectly with each other to help them rise to meet their challenges together. I don’t know if it was fate, or if they would have become so close under any circumstances, but those two seem to complement each other especially well.”

“That makes sense,” Yamato said. “We’ve all given each other strength before. Remember when you saved Takeru at the diner, Jyou? It was your actions that helped me unlock my Crest in the first place.”

Jyou blushed as Koushiro reached for his laptop and opened up a new document. “Humans are community-oriented by nature,” he said, his fingers flying across the keyboard. “If the Digital World chose us to protect it, it would only be logical to equip us with weapons that were designed to utilize that nature as effectively as possible.”

Taichi frowned down at his half-finished assignment. He had always thought of the crests in such individual terms. The Crest of Courage was his, and the others belonged to their respective owners.

But there was more to it than that, wasn’t there? It took the eight of them working together to find and unlock the crests in the first place. The younger chosen had inherited those same crests when they entered the Digital World, and they’d proven time and again how they’d deserved to do so. Even the digimentals of the crests could be used by any of them, a fact the younger kids had discovered accidentally during one harrowing battle. Taichi remembered the pride he had felt at learning that his sister had been able to unlock the Digimental of Courage.

A shout from the living room caught his attention. He looked up in time to see Iori launch a blue shell onto the track, taking out Takeru for the win. Takeru burst out laughing while Daisuke groaned and draped himself dramatically over Ken.

Jyou was right, Taichi thought with a smile. They were always strongest when they came together as a group, when their strengths combined to meet any obstacle.

As long as they had each other, he thought, they could create miracles.

--

This is something that’s always interested me about Daisuke and Ken’s relationship. Extending a hand of friendship to Ken was an incredible act of kindness on Daisuke’s part, and for Ken, it took a great deal of courage to accept the friendship of the others and own up to his mistakes. There’s also the fact that Daisuke said the Crest of Kindness called out to him. And that even though Daisuke used the Digimental of Miracles, it was with Ken the whole time.

Instead of typing that up in an analysis post, I used it for this day’s prompt! I originally had a much different idea, one that referenced a series I’ve been working on for a long time where the younger chosen children activate each other’s digimentals. There is still a reference to that series here; in the first chapter, Hikari activates the digimental of courage.

Thanks for reading!

[earlgreymon]

digimon 30 days challenge day 08: favorite couple

i can write a whole essay about them, really. even long after the end of the show, i still ship them so hard. taichi/sora will always be my number one otp for all ships that i like.

sora will always be taichi’s biggest supporter. the way taichi tried so hard to save sora, and in return, sora insisted to take an extra mile to look for taichi when he’s gone to the real world. her decision to stay by his side when the kids split on dark master’s arc, just before helping him to regroup the whole gang. 

they needed each other to make their crests worked. to activate the crest of courage, taichi was reminded that sora is someone that’s very important for him. to activate the crest of love, taichi reminded sora how lovely she was as a person.

i’ll skip the talk about our war game because it’s obvious enough…

call me old fashion, but i think a hero should get his heroine. and i will always have a special place for a childhood relationship that develops into romance. at the end of the day, if there’s no other way for them to become a canon, i can consider a confirmation that they once liked each other, or probably ever date but didn’t really work out.

but well, let’s hope that the creators somehow being possessed by bakemon-sama (?) and decide that taiora is the way it should in da: 2020. at least we will have an episode full of them in a moment. yay!

notable mentions: jyou/mimi, mimi/yamato (i originally prefer jyoumi over mimato, but it’s hard to get a nice jyoumi fic i end up reading a lot of mimato and become so obsessed with them lol), daisuke/miyako, koushiro/hikari

[izzyizumi]

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Prompt: Friendship; What is your favorite aspect{s} about their relationship/dynamic with Yamato?

Digimon Adventure/02/tri./2020 ~ Japanese Version Featuring Group{s}/Ship{s}: - YamaTaiKou / YamaKouTai [Yamato x Taichi x Koushiro] - Taishiro [Taichi x Koushiro], - Yamachi / TaiYama [Yamato x Taichi], - YamaKou [Yamato x/+ Koushiro] and/or All as Polyship {in Adventure; 02 & Tri}

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Digimon Adventure 2020, episode 8 reaction (and over-analysis)

This week, a full-episode action scene, some introductions and character dynamics. If this is how an average episode will be, I’m fine with it.

Was Yamato this cool last time around? Back in OG Adventure, he always seemed more “perceived as cool” than actually cool. He was too much of an anxious mess to qualify. Maybe it’s because Takeru isn’t around this time, or because he already has a solid relationship with Gabumon, but 2020 Yamato is a lot more confident. Besides, he’s capable of holding onto a gigantic wolf doing several cartwheels without feeling the slightest bit dizzy. Cool. Taichi and Sora agree, and so should you.

This wasn’t Yamato’s introduction but it certainly felt like it played the same role for his character as the previous two did for Mimi and Jou: establish it and immediately get some minor character development rolling. His arc was a fair bit more standard than the other two but they got it out of the way fast enough that I enjoyed it instead of finding it annoying like I normally would. It helps that literally everyone saw through it and was willing to work with it. One of the things I like about Koushiro’s arc in the original series was how it, for the most part, completely refused to go for the most melodramatic option, and that seems to be the case for Yamato at least in this new series. Even that brief “friendship” sequence is a lot more restrained that it could have been.

Anyway, we got Yamato. He’s cool, very cool. He cares a lot, but refuses to show it. He tries to distance himself as much as possible from the others but fails, and he’s glad to have failed by the end. He’s dumbfounded to have received help. Good start for his character arc.

Gabumon didn’t have much to him (unlike Gomamon or Tentomon, even Palmon considering she has the butler routine), but we did get more confirmation that he and Agumon know each other from somewhere. He’s also the one who explains the situation to Taichi’s group, so perhaps he’s Yamato’s voice whenever the boy doesn’t feel comfortable speaking. We’ll see.

I guess I should also talk about the fight, since that was the main focus of the episode. It achieved the best thing it could have: it made sure everyone had a role and a time to shine. Yamato was the obvious star, up to and including throwing his cloak at the Solarmon to stop their attacks, but Taichi and Sora weren’t much behind, gaining points with how comfortable they were in a supporting position. Gomamon and to a lesser degree Palmon had some good non-battle contributions, which makes them feel like more complete characters than Piyomon and Agumon. The final “friendship boost” against Gorimon was well done.

Anyway, other observations:

We’ve settled on roles for the main cast (minus Yamato): Taichi leads at every point, Sora seconds him and is pretty observant herself, Mimi does “girly” stuff in the background that is played as completely charming rather than annoying, and Jou has the normal reactions people would have, but over-the-top. As far as the digimon go, Agumon and Piyomon do whatever their partners do, but Palmon is always trying to help Mimi or Jou and Gomamon flipflops between being worried about Jou and playfully teasing him.

Taichi was, as ever in this series, pretty much the perfect leader for the group, taking lead whenever needed, knowing when to defer to Yamato’s experience, making sure Jou didn’t feel ashamed of his surrender attempt, perfectly okay with playing a supporting role. He thrives in combat situation, even his fear when faced with Gorimon being forgotted quickly. He’s, as admitted by Tomioka, clearly inspired by V-Tamer Taichi (not in particular skills but in how competent and confident he is), which does make me worry that, much like in V-Tamer, he won’t have much of a character arc here. In the meantime, he‘s pretty good, but let’s see where it’ll lead.

It might just be me overthinking it, but Sora seemed noticeably more worried than the others when the situation in Tokyo was mentioned. I have a feeling she’s not going to deal with the eventual pressure well.

Not much Koushiro, other than him making more exposition and trying to not make Jou feel inadequate (and failing).

The humor with Jou wasn’t to my liking, but it does help that it all comes from reactions and decisions that, while certainly over-the-top, are rooted in understandable insecurities and fears. So, bad humor, good characterization.

Mimi's precious as ever, and she and Jou are established as the “normal” ones of the group. Well, not everyone can be an ultimate badass, or Koushiro.

Gabumon’s attack wasn’t capable of overpowering the Tankmon’s missiles, but it was capable of overheating them and causing them to explode. This repeats itself with the Gorimon, making him the first digimon to have been killed since the first 3 episodes.

That howl was awful. Sorry, no if or buts about it.

Before I forget: Mimi and Yamato talked. Not indirectly, they actually directly addressed each other. And just like that, Mimato is infinitely more plausible here than in OG Adventure.

Not that I think it’ll happen. If anything, Sora’s introduction to him was a bit too significant-seeming to me. Boy looked shook from it.

Next episode, Koushiro finally joins, Ogremon is back, and we get our first Perfect-level. What are the odds that MetalTyranomon is the same one who just got shoved out of a cliff?

[pyrokinesis]

So I lost the patience and watched Kizuna

! Major spoilers ahead !

Listen, I know I said I will wait until the Blu-Ray comes out, but I was impatient little bitch and I found a working Sample 3 link with English dub, so I said, fuck it! My brother joined me 20 minutes in, lol. Anyways, onto the movie.

I don't really know what to say, Digimon Last Evolution Kizuna was exactly what I expected from the movie of such name, a movie that promotes end of relationship between Digimons and their human partners.

I kinda didn't have my hope up, mostly because I rewatched Adventure & Adventure 02 last week and finally watched Tri, and the whole point of Digimon has always been, no matter what happens, Digimons and their humans will always stick and stay together, I think the quote goes "humans and Digimons forever" (?). I kinda was hyped up though, partly because of art style (it was much better than Tri, less dark and more symmetrical when it comes to faces and bodies, Tri was annoying at times with weird asymmetrical faces; also Yamato!!!! Yamato is so hot and pretty in Kizuna, wtf Toei leave this poor lesbian alone), partly because of Adventure 02 kids (my brother is so annoyed with me, but I'm a huge 02 fan, Wormmon is my baby and I can rewatch 02ep25 anytime, Stigmon's first appearance is fucking iconic).

Adventure 02 kids got much more screentime than I expected, especially Iori/Cody because he is sometimes really put aside. I love how they were staying in touch with Original Six/Eight through Yamato, and how Hikari and Takeru stayed part of their team (Tri lacked this so much, it was so weird to have Hikari and TK not knowing what happened to their friends when they were supposedly a new team/best friends). Also my baby Ken's hair (*le cries*), I miss his long hair. Both my brother and I expected Paildramon to appear near the end, but there were no DNA/Jogress evolutions besides Omegamon/Omnimon.

Yamato was so fucking hot it's unbelievable, he's become top Digi-destined to me, 2D character or not. He was so smart, so persistent, so consistent, so selfless, so cute, itty-bitty blind (those cute glasses that appeared on his face for a mili-moment during him being in uni classroom panel, all of my uwus gone), still has one of the best relationships with Gabumon (he plays harmonica for Gabumon, even after all these years, he keeps Gabumon by his side, and they both tried to find that bad-guy-turned-FBI-agent-guy sneakily, so so cute). Overall, Yamato is a emotionally much more main character than Taich is, probably because emotionally, Taichi was the main character of Tri.

Now onto our second main, Taichi. Honestly, technicall, both Yamato and Taichi are Kizuna's main guys, but emotionally, Yamato left much bigger impact. Taichi was the main character in the beginning, but as the story progressed, I could feel Yamato much better. Still, Taichi isn't left aside (like all other Original Eight kidz/people). He is a struggling university student who has no idea what to do with his life (my brother sorta compared him to me, LMAO). This is very consistent with Tri's Taichi, who is full of self dubts, abstract ideas of future, and melancholy when he thinks about his future self. Toei nicely showed it when they let us know Tai earns for his future by working part-time as a waiter (?) in an automat casino. He is kinda really down all the time when he starts realising he has to make huge choices about the future, even though he has no bloody idea or genuine thought what to do (also his porn stash, LMAO what was that Taichi, who even uses porn magazine after the age of 14).

Thinking back about it now, it's kinda underwhelming with how it actually, emotionally, focuses on the whole "Digimons have to leave their partners" philosophy. Like, it barely shows interactions between humans and Digimons (which Tri did at least, with I think all characters, so I would expect at least some focus on Yamato and Taichi). There were some interactions between Taichi and Agumon, and Yamato and Gabumon at the end, but it just felt uncomplete and unfullifying. Also whole concept is bullshit (did I mention it? Because if I didn't I will, because this whole thing really is). It all started with Tri, which felt like it was produced by random people who watched Adventure & 02 after fifteen years and decided to make their own spin on it, without actual respects for stories and characters Adventure & Adventure 02 were trying to make us feel and understand (though feelings of OOC-ness Tri had at the times were minimal in Kizuna, thank goodness for that).

Then, Kizuna continued it with the concept of "when Digi-destined grow up, their Digimon partners disappear because they are not on the same mental wavelengths anymore" which is the complete opposite of one of like three main Digimon philosophies, "Digimon and Digi-destined, together and forever"; like while I disliked 02 epilogue, it showed us that after all hardships, Digi-destined and their Digimons get their happy endings, together. Both my brother and I (we watched it together) groaned at the whole concept (along with predictive bullshit plot and plotholes).

While I understand the reason behind this (I read some spoilers on here afterwards, to broaden my post-Kizuna horizons), that humans/Digi-destined grow up, and Digimons kinda don't, it still makes me really dissatisfied. Tri showed us in flashes that, when given time spent with their and other humans, Digimons can grow and become mentally wise adults (cue to the cutest scene when Patamon closes his one eye because he understands the tension between Hikari and Takeru, as in, that they like each other and they might need some time "alone"), so Kizuna kinda fucked up all previous Adventure works by telling us everything is in vain, Digimons leave, their connection to humans they had will become meaningless and humans will have to move on. Bullshit plot(hole), but whatever.

The amount of screentime non-Taichi&Yamato characters can be underwhelming, especially if you don't read spoilers like I did. The movie starts with Takeru and Hikari as important as Yamato and Taichi, but as the movie progresses, they just fade in the background. Kinda happens to everyone else except Koushiro/Izzy, who kinda has a really leading role, considering how much screentime Taichi and Yamato have (I feel like wordcount apps will find Yamato&Taichi as my most used words in this rant review), and he is probably third most important role, until he undramatically disappears because of psycho main lady.

Now towards real ranting. I'll try to keep it short because I have no real emotions behind it and I feel some other rants might articulate it better. Anyways, the plot of the whole movie is so goddamn predictable. It starts so weirdly, with Taichi, Hikari and Takeru fighting Parrotmon (what the fuck was that even, btw???). Like, Parrotmon, again? It feels just very reused, and that feeling that doesn't leave even during the credits. Soundtrack—while nice, nostalgic, and very fitting—is also just reused Adventure 01 soundtrack, and it just brings kudos from my memory lane road nostalgia. Deja Vu is the feeling that sticks to your skin and bones, if you like me, watched Adventure 1-3 just before Kizuna, and understand how so many scenes are just reused wanna-be old seasons references.

From two older adults (I honestly thought there will be two goverment agents, again, and mentally groaned) sticking up into Digi-destineds' business like some omni-knows creature, same as agents from Tri, fucked up (female) main antagonist who pretends to be a good guy (lady?) for the sake of gathering intel and trust, who is a complete nutjob (full-time pyscho in Kizuna lady's case) because of the loss of her Digimon partner, to bullshit powered-up Digimon created from human coding (my brother pointed this one to me, and honestly, half of this movie is both Diaboromon movies rehashed/redone in 2020 shine), Omnimon fighting in some weird Digital World room powered-up creature (first Diaboromon movie straight up scene for scene), even that first scene with Parrotmon and this time completely unexplainable appearance of a Digimon in the real world, and Digi-destined having to fight it, and of course, bullshit new unexplained Digi-evolution with new (human???) mega forms of Agumon and Gabumon. All in all, it just feels very forced and all very already seen.

Now onto the less main, even less supporting characters. 02 teens are amazing, considering they have barely any lines and some little fighting moments. I love them, and I'm happy they got this, considering how they were blatantly forgotten in Tri, and how obviously nobody in the production of Tri even cared to hide that. Wormmon and Stigmon are my babies and I'm happy to see them have some screentime.

Original Six/Eight (excluding Taichi and Yamato) are kinda disappointing, though. I read some spoilers, so I knew Sora wouldn't appear much, but damn, even that was much compared to her actual screentime in Kizuna. She is almost as forgotten as 02 kids were in Tri. I get that she is shown to have moved on faster than other Original Eight kids, but still, they didn't even show her losing Piyomon (which did happen, and it was emotionally, overwhelming, in a fucked up sense when you realised Piyomon wasn't by her side). Jou, Mimi, Takeru, and Hikari were shown at the beginning of movie with so much potential screentime, but in the end they mostly were there for the dramatic cliffhangers (I didn't understand at the beginning what happened to Mimi and Jou, and I thought Hikari was murdered and that the FBI agent straight up shot Takeru), during that mini battle scene sometime in the Neverland, and of course, during the end credits. It was kinda really both overwhelming and underwhelming to see them during the credits when they could've had much more moments during the movie (I sorta had some hope because the movie is almost 2 hours long, and usually movies are like 20, 30 minutes long, but even during those one-episode-length movies there is more of main-supporting characters shown).

As mentioned, the ending is bullshit (my brother ended up crying and I had to put Adventure OST on to calm him down), Agumon and Gabumon dying is literally the most senseless thing ever since both Taichi and Yamato love their partners so much, and even among all the adulting and hassles in their lives, they try to make time for their Digimon partners (during their time in the restuarant, Yamato and Taichi literally talk how they don't have time for even their closest friends, hell Hikari even mentions Taichi should give their mother a visit, but Taichi still finds time for Agumon), so in the end both Taichi and Yamato were among the last people to lose their Digimons and I'm really disappointed in this concept, especially how they didn't show Gabumon and Agumon disappearing, Taichi and Yamato deserved explicit goodbyes.

Uh, I don't think I have anything much to add anymore. I read spoilers and some are pretty much novels from how much people put their thoughts in, this is just my ranting review, tbh. I dived into this hoping to get my heart mended from Tri (say what you want about Tri but it was too bad for six hour and half movies, especially general Adventure constistency-wise), but not with high expectations, having seen the trailer and having some spoilers read. All in all film wasn't too bad, but it wasn't too good, solid 6/10 rating from me, mostly for the animation and nostalgic soundtrack, but the whole plot was shit as fuck and the philoshophy behind it.

(Random, but I noticed straight people/shippers liked the movie better than gay people/shippers, is there any correlations between that)

ALL IN ALL, Digimon: Last Evolution Kizuna wasn't the best nor the worst Digimon movie/work, but it probably isn't something I will rewatch or recommend anytime soon (also wtf were those humanoid mega forms, like W T F).

[firstagent]

What do you think is the difference between 1999 Taichi and 2020 Taichi based off what we've seen so far? Or is it too early to make comparisons yet?

There are a few distinctions we can recognize now, but we can’t necessarily trust all of them, and the real test is still to come.

The most obvious one is the way he gushes over his friends, seeing it already with Koushiro, Sora, and to some extent Yamato. We never got this in 1999, but back then we also never saw him meeting these three for the first time, and neither may have been in situations where Taichi was able to get the best of them right off the bat. Taichi meeting Koushiro at soccer isn’t going to generate the same feelings towards the little nerd as meeting him on the cusp of a crisis where someone with computer skills is going to shine.

This adoration feels different, and certainly something to appreciate and take note of, but we can’t say this is definitely a departure from his 1999 character. We might be able to get a better read on this one once he starts meeting friendly non-partnered Digimon, since there’s a better catalog of his reactions to them.

The way Taichi meets Koromon is particularly unreliable. One is because for all the Our War Game allusions in the first three episodes, they actually serve as this season’s Hikarigaoka incident. Those meetings are too different to be helpful: in one, Taichi’s a seven year old in his own home with his sister around as opposed to being 11 after winding up in a digital network and already exposed to a million weird things. As much as it’s a departure from the way Taichi freaks out in episode one of 1999, that reaction never made much sense and his unfamiliarity with Koromon goes down as one of Adventure’s bigger inconsistencies.

When comparing the two Taichis, the real big test is going to be his first transformative arc. When his own self becomes an obstacle to success, we’ll be able to better gauge the primary takeaway of who he is as a character and the ideal Taichi he needs to become. In 1999, this was the Etemon arc, when his over-eagerness to save the day endangers first Agumon, then Sora, resulting in a deflating lack of confidence that he has to take stock of and overcome. This led to the Taichi we got in the second half of Adventure and beyond. Whatever equivalent 2020 goes with, that’s when we can really start assessing the difference between the two interpretations of the character.

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