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Do you think Bishop asked the turtles for help in setting up the Pan Galactic Alliance since they had so many dealings with different species, and expected them to be doubtful of his intentions only for them to tease him before actually accepting his plans?
I think about it a lot. lol
(don't pay a whole lot of attention to the turtles' outfits/designs. I was mostly just making up random things to show the passage of time)
Their actual reaction to his announcement to create the PGA:
This is my entry for @tmaynt Day 24: Favorite Turtle + Villain Dynamic and Day 30: Favorite Human Villain
Their dynamic with Bishop is so interesting, because for most the series he's this Big Threat, and working with him is literally like making a deal with the devil. But then they go 100 years into the future and find out that once Bishop finally realizes that eliminating Aliens from Earth isn't going to protect it, that he actually is a force for good and peace.... well it changes that dynamic and I wish we could have gotten to see more about how they reacted to Bishop after that lol.
Bonus below:
I was actually originally going to do two separate things for day 24 and 30. but I am behind and day 24 (originally going to be Rise Mikey and Meat Sweats) was giving me fits, and while practicing drawing Bishop for day 30, I thought about this idea and decided to combine the days.
Here's what I was originally going to do for day 30. What I wouldn't give to see xenophobic 03 Bishop meet his ALIEN counterpart
#there's so many good dynamics with the villains it was hard to pick#rise mikey with meat sweats. or rise mikey with draxum#all the turtles with draxum#any rise turtle with almost any villain is actually hilarious#the 03 turtles with that triceraton emperor is also funny#03 leo and karai#12 mikey and bradford/dogpound/rahzar#there's so many good ones#TMayNT#TMayNTDay24#TMayNTDay30#tmaynt day 24 and 30#tmnt 2003#2003 bishop#03 bishop#2003 leonardo#2003 raphael#2003 michelangelo#2003 donatello#03 leo#03 raph#03 mikey#03 donnie#famofpaladins draws#okay i think that's it
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L10 AU
03 AU where one winter when the turtles are kids, maybe five or eight, there's a collapse in one of the lairs, could be because of something like an earthquake, construction failure, etc. In the collapse, Donnie is crushed and dies. The pieces of rubble are so heavy the others can't move it to get the body and regretfully have to leave it.
The extreme cold preserves Donnie so it's still in perfect condition when Bishop and his team come to investigate reports of an "alien" being found in the sewers. They're even able to revive it with experimental procedures since the head was mainly left unharmed. A few of the less important organs, what appeared to be a shell, and the left arm needed to be replaced though.
The subject had no recollection of anything before being revived, likely a side effect of being dead for an extended time even if the effect was lessened by the cold. This means Bishop couldn't get any answers from it about whether there was more like it or where they might be. Though he could still stuffy it and test its capabilities.
The newly labeled L1038451 has an unexpected problem that messed with the data. The subject couldn't feel pain and they had no way of knowing if this was normal or another side effect of it temporarily expiring.
Bishop sitting in his lab wondering what he could do next with this creature when he notices it running across the doorway of his lab. He immediately gets up and chases it down, which is surprisingly hard considering its small size.
Bishop demands who let it out of its cell when he notices one of the tools from an earlier experiment in L10's hand. When did it even grab that? Bishop looked from it to L10's face and saw the most cheeky smile. Why this little- Bishop is going to make sure it can never leave its cell again.
It leaves its cell on its own again less than two days later. Making sure to pull on Bishop's pant leg and everything so he knows.
Bishop doesn't understand! No matter what locks or security system he puts up it somehow opens them! At the same time making sure to erase the camera footage so he doesn't know how. Then it just seems to seek him out to show off its win. Worst of all it started greeting him with this irritating "Guess who, Bippy?"
As Bishop is grumbling he notices hasn't seen L10 in a while. Why doesn't he believe it's because he's finally contained that thing?
Bishop searched the facility and found L10 in his cell. With a bunch of parts that weren't in there the last time Bishop put him back in. Is- Is he making a drone in there? How does it know how to make a drone?
Before Bishop realizes it he's sitting in the cell with L10 watching it build and sometimes offering tips and ideas. When it's finished and L10's eyes light up with joy Bishop almost feels… pride?
That feeling is short-lived as L10 gets up and runs out of the cell giggling, locking Bishop inside behind him.
L10 does eventually learn how to hack into Bishop's bank account and order stuff to be sent there. Bishop's looking so confused when he sees purchases under the name "Elton". Elton? El-ton. L-10. L10!
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Hey, hey tmnt:ff, why does bishop have a cat mouth in his redesign? Hey, hey, why did you do that?
#03 bishop#agent bishop#tmnt 03#2003 teenage mutant ninja turtles#teenage mutant ninja turtles: fast forward#tmnt#bishop tmnt#katnip talks#turtle watching 🐢
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TMayNT Day 30: Favorite Human Villain
Day 30 of @tmaynt! As far as human villains go, it's hard to beat Bishop. 2012 Bishop may be an ally to the turtles, but 2003 Bishop is an outright cold, uncaring, and unkillable antagonist -- the kind of guy you just love to hate, which is peak villain in my opinion!
(TMayNT 2024 Masterpost)
#TMayNT#art#my art#tmnt#alt text#my post#bishop#agent bishop#john bishop#traditional art#TMayNT30#TMayNTday30#tmnt 2003#tmnt 2k3#tmnt 03#help I accidentally tagged this as rottmnt at first out of habit
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Unfortunately the obscure AU competition will not be happening but that simply means you guys get this picture in high quality now :) selfie time! They can and will beat you up!
- Trauma
Textless version:
#ahc art#ahc cody#ahc yellow#ahc blue#ahc purple#ahc red#ahc bishop#ahc au#actions have consequences au#tmnt 03#tmnt dark turtles#tmnt Cody jones
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more tmnt 2003, finally got up to the "Good Genes" episodes and ooouuuuggghhhhhh Dooooonnnnnn.
#tmnt#Teenage mutant ninja turtles#Tmnt 2003#sketches#digital#I like the og design for GG don! don't get me wrong#Having him look so much like leatherhead hits for me#But! I also think there are so many cool directions they could have taken the design besides gator or dino faced thing.#also somehow I had completely forgotten that the rat king in 03 was a bishop clone woa#having fun rewatching as always#splinters life was so eventful pre mutation#old as hell rat
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Tips on Writing Bishop
I've been asked a couple times for advice on how to write a good (03-style) Bishop, and I'm well-aware he can be a bit tough to get a grasp on. As someone who's studied him specifically to learn how to write him as accurately as possible, I figured I'd compile some thoughts in case it'd be helpful to anyone else. I know a lot of Rise takes on him are basing off the 03 version, so maybe this could help generate ideas, too. SO!
Big Overall Points!
At the core of EVERYTHING Bishop does are two primary motivations. The first: the protection of the earth. What this means to him can get tricky, because it doesn't necessarily mean protecting the people, at least not all of them. But it will be better understood alongside the other:
The second: The protection of his sense of safety. Bishop has been deeply traumatized, and everything he does is born of a want to avoid that pain ever again. In his mind, earth is a safe area, a controllable factor, and anything outside it is a danger that must be eliminated. This is why he will still be willing to put himself and other people on the line in service of this; any sacrifice is worth the greater goal. (It's worth noting, Bishop will claim the first as his motivation freely, but is likely not consciously aware of the second.)
Bishop deals in Big Picture ONLY. Another reason Bishop will willingly throw away anything, including the lives of the people he claims to protect, is that he seems incapable of understanding things on a small, individual basis.
Bishop is a cold personality. He does not have strong displays of emotion. He does emote, but for the most part it's muted, so I recommend using emotional bursts very sparingly. (In my own writing, as an example, I try to limit my use of exclamation marks in his dialogue as much as possible.)
At his core, Bishop is afraid, and his response to fear is aggression. This also makes it particularly difficult to talk him down, if he's put in an emotional state. His response to not being in control is often violent retaliation.
With those basic tenants understood, let's move next to some major personality traits:
Bishop is a controlling personality. This is a direct result of his trauma response. Things that can be controlled are safe, therefore he must control everything. If something cannot be controlled, it's a threat that must be eliminated. If he doesn't know why something happened, he becomes angry (including even when it benefits him.)
Bishop is very low-empathy. When writing him, I try to keep in mind that he cannot put himself in the perspective of others. (Or if he can, he doesn't care to.)
Bishop is a sadist. He gets personal enjoyment from hurting others.
Bishop likes fighting, but only when he's winning. He will quickly leave if he can't see a guaranteed victory.
Bishop is paranoid. This is probably self-evident, but it's the reason he's often so well-prepared even when things don't go to plan.
Bishop genuinely seems to enjoy science. He's shown to be far more lenient with scientist characters than anyone else, and he seems to involve himself in his scientists' projects to a degree. Enough to, at the very least, understand their work. (Given he was the one set to dissect the turtles, it might also be argued he has some medical or biology background, himself.)
Bishop is an opportunist and scavenger. He can roll with failures as long as he can find something to get out of it. If he's presented with an opportunity to stab someone in the back, and he has something to gain? He'll take it without a second thought.
Bishop is deeply self-blind. For all his perceptiveness and strategic prowess, Bishop is not very self-aware in the slightest. He is completely blind to his own hypocrisies, and thoroughly confident in his own righteousness.
Bishop adapts fast. He accepts situations for what they are and acts (Though he may still be angry about them, or what have you.) This is likely a skill developed via longevity; the world around him has changed rapidly, but he doesn't feel out of place at all.
Bishop will take extreme risks and thinks wildly outside the box. Also self-evident, if you're familiar with the plans he enacts throughout the show. He'll put a lot on the line if he thinks the reward is worth enough, and he's willing to go to extreme lengths to get what he wants, even if his plans would be considered crazy by normal standards.
Bishop is persistent. If he wants something, he won't stop until he gets it. If he fails, he'll retreat, make a new plan, and try again. It is very difficult to convince him to back down (and certainly not on moral grounds.)
Habits and triggers I've noted:
Being restrained of any sort puts Bishop in a panic. He is more likely to have an emotional response in these scenarios, and seems to have (an albeit muted) desperation to escape. (See: Leatherhead restraining him in the first encounter; His reaction to being trapped on the surgical table in Head of State.)
When being duplicitous or suppressing a reaction, Bishop will go to adjust his tie. This could possibly be considered his tell.
Bishop seems to have a particular fear of aliens blending in as humans. His slayer project was built around the assumption that this is a common threat. (Worth noting: This makes The Shredder the model of the exact threat Bishop is afraid of. Technically, Bishop himself may also fit the description of a threat shaped like a human.)
Writing considerations:
In 03's narrative, Bishop is EPF and EPF is Bishop. Narratively speaking, any organization Bishop is head of acts as if it is an extension of his will and character.
Bishop is shown to strike fear and/or discomfort into most characters he interacts with. Anything beyond this is an outlier, and will draw a reader's attention.
Dialogue-wise, Bishop is generally succinct and blunt. He does dabble in gloating, though, and especially likes to upset others. If he's given a chance to be mean, he'll usually take it. It can help to consider he has a Mission Mode and a Normal Mode. When it comes to Mission Mode, he gets straight to the point and hates unnecessary talking. Otherwise, he's still not very talkative, but will take the time to make pointed jabs or talk through a plan. A lot of his sense of humor seems to be rooted in how He's Better Than You (And You're Going To Die Painfully.)
It's a common pitfall that Bishop is depicted as seeking out the turtles. In 03, once he gets their DNA, he's done with them. Any encounters after that are incidental. Bishop does not care about anything that won't effect his greater goal. If he's targeting another character, it should have to do with a greater plan.
Bishop is an extremely competent combatant, shown to be able to handle up to 7 opponents at once. For a breakdown on his fighting style check out my other post on that!
Bishop is hard to kill, and oftentimes he accidentally contributes to his own defeat. (The hook from Bishop's Gambit is an example I get a LOT of mileage out of, as a perfect symbol of his self-defeating prophecies.)
We almost only ever see Bishop in the context of his work. While it could be construed that he depersonalizes himself, it's much more clear that the narrative depersonalizes him. As far as we, the audience know, Bishop's work is all that he is.
It's unclear if Bishop was released from his abduction or escaped. Depending on which you ascribe to, this can have ramifications for his mindset on how to deal with the alien threat. (Personally, because so much of his inability to cope hinges on a feeling of helplessness, I believe he was released. If he escaped on his own power, that undercuts it, somewhat.)
Thematically-speaking, Bishop parallels both his own torturers and his own victims at the same time. He has perpetuated the cycle that traumatized him in the first place by trying to fight fire with fire. (In that vein, I don't think he's capable of understanding that, not seeing aliens as people in the first place, just dangers. Considering how deeply ingrained his trauma is in his worldview and actions, it would probably ruin him, if he were ever able to actually grasp it.)
Bishop and EPF are likely a commentary on the military of the time 03 was coming out. This can be something worth keeping in mind, when figuring out his greater themes in your story, though it can just as well be discarded if it doesn't fit.
Adding to that, Bishop has an extensive american military background. His skills and knowledge will reflect that.
Bishop also plays on and references a number of real-life alien conspiracies. It can be worth digging through conspiracy history to drum up ideas and themes, too.
The ethical and philosophical quandaries of Bishop's body-hopping and humanity tend to not hold too much weight, because Bishop, himself, doesn't seem to care.
If I think of more I'll certainly be adding on to the reblogs of this post! Or, if you have more thoughts, please feel free to add! If you're in the mood for more Bishop ramblings, that's practically most of this blog atm, but this post is a particular favorite. If you're interested in Fast Forward!Bishop, specifically, consider this post! (also read Taking Pawns. slipped in that self-promo, nice.)
#agent bishop#tmnt 2003#tmnt 2k3#teenage mutant ninja turtles#And man I still gotta make an analysis on 2012 Bishop#my man is so underrated#There are only a handful of fics out there that include him at ALL and for the most part I find he's blended with 03's characterization#Which takes away what makes him fun in his own right and muddies 03 Bishop's character basis imo#anyway I had this post on the backburner for a while and finally got the motivation to finish her up#And of course if ever there are more questions on characterizing him I'd be happy to help! I love rambling about this guy ad nauseum#oooh stray thought I should do one for Rat King too. Went through that guy's episodes recently theyre GREAT#I've also been very tempted to compile most of these posts into a big ol video essay. idk if I could pull it off but it sure is an idea
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More 03!
SURPRISE BAXTER AND BISHOP ATTACK
#blue Baxter is supposed to be from season 5 but he just looks like a smurf lol#my art#tmnt poll#polls#poll#tmnt 2003#tmnt 2k3#tmnt 03#tmnt#teenage mutant ninja turtles#tmnt karai#tmnt honeycutt#zayton honeycutt#tmnt fugitoid#tmnt bishop#tmnt baxter stockman#baxter stockman
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Hi!! I was scrolling through your blog appreciating your banger art (as one does) and noticed you mentioned in the tags on one post that you’re thinking of trying to draw Bishop and Stockman and as a big enjoyer of both I am intrigued!! So I wanted to ask how that was coming along? :)
In exchange i offer this Bishop fic because it’s really well written and ties into a bigger universe me and my friend are making now, in case you need recommendations still :D
https://archiveofourown.org/works/46582162
Your art slaps severely! Hope you have a good day!
- @teenagemutantninjatrauma
i finally got around to drawing them and being satisfied with the result,,
anyway the fic you sent was insanely good, the writing was really captivating ahgh bishop is such an interesting character and now i will be thinking about future bishop, cody jones and dark turtles found family (it's making me run in circles)
and stockman!! hes so interesting to me as well,, especially if you've read the comics made for the 2003 tmnt show (very good btw you can find them online for free) they give a little more exposition for some of the characters and i enjoyed them
#i hope to draw them more#and cody#i had a lot of sad cody drawing ideas i never executed#i miss drawing tmnt 03 fanart#tmnt 2003 is my favorite version probably#anyway#ask#tmnt 2003#john bishop#baxter stockman
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:)
#tmnt 2003#katanashipping#03 leosagi#2003 leonardo#2003 leosagi#2003 mikey#2003 raph#2003 donatello#2003 donnie#2003 usagi#2003 tmnt#tmnt karai#tmnt bishop#tmnt shredder
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Mirrors don’t show you a human person anymore.
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This has no bigger context other than me wanting to inflict Nightmare Bishop upon people. Can you tell I was watching the newest Walten Files while drawing this?
Anyways must be fucked up to suddenly become self aware after making your purpose killing people, huh. You wake up from a haze of self righteousness and hatred and fear and your reflection holds all your horrible actions in his arms. And he hands them to you. “Here,” he says. “Look.” And so you do, and there’s blood. Centuries of it, spilling out of the mirror, over the sink, staining the floor, pouring out into every room of your home. The carpet is going to be stained red forever. The bottom of your walls is rotting.
And you can’t stop looking at your reflection, and he doesn’t feel guilty.
Do you?
#nightmare bishop#tmnt 03 rlly said ‘what if we pulled a fnaf4 before fnaf4 was a thing’ /j#my art!#2k3 Bishop#tmnt 2k3#sorry for being so dramatic ahaha
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Day 30: favourite human villain
This dude, do I need to explain? I couldn't even explain myself if I needed to, I just like his villain arc. There were few more like Baxter but this dude claimed the first place.
@tmaynt
#tmnt#britishrose art#teenage mutant ninja turtles#tmnt 2003#tmnt 2k3#tmaynt#tmaynt30#tmnt bishop#2003 agent bishop#2003 bishop#2003 john bishop#03 john bishop#teenage mutant ninja turtles 2003
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i love 03 bishop he's so evil
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OKAY MY NEWFOUND AGENT BISHOP TMNT AUDIENCE. ANY THOUGHTS ON WHY THERE ARE
two of them?????
#or at least why he had time to change his jacket to a coat in the middle of a fucking invasion.#dude's got his priorities when it comes to actual alien threat knocking on earth's door in every iteration huh#anyway my theory: those are 2 diff bishops. one may be a clone. the 1st one references 2012 version more while the 2nd is straight up 03#so i think there is smth up with that. also 1st one's face is catlike like in ff. and both ff and 12 are good bishops! im onto something!#also the headphones but s4 bishop03 battle armor look also had them i think#anyway the person on rise team who saw an alien invasion story and decided to insert not 1 but 2 bishop cameos in there is a genius.#like i feel this decision on every level. there are not enough xenophobic (or not so) fuckers out there.#i expected his cameo ever since i read the synopsis (tho also on the future part bc ff rent free in my head) and i was Not Disappointed.#you do not want to know the level of insanity i instantly reached when i first saw rise movie and got to the second one.#hell im still not over the fact they gave him WORDS#fucking printing those on a tshirt cause THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE WIN#agent bishop#agent john bishop#tmnt bishop#rottmnt#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#rise of the tmnt#rottmnt the movie
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Saki approached you with gigantic wolf(who look a LOT like Rahzar), from afar he look malicious but when got close he rather calm. He offer you for a scouting and hunting together. What would you do?
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(Villain Time)
Seconds before Saki and Rahzar appeared, a man stepped out of a path of trees. Honestly it would be hard to believe that this could be any character from TMNT but surprisingly it is, specifically 03 Bishop, but he looked way different.
He didn’t look like some special agent or anything compared to the show, nothing like that. He wore a gray wool coat with black pants and office shoes and still had those shades on, instead of that slick back men in black haircut it was more scuffed and looked a mix of black and white. In one of his hands he was holding a hunting rifle and the other was a flip phone for some reason, when he saw he saw the crime lord come up to his with his wolf the hitman put the phone away into his coat…
“Hunting you say?”
Hell even his voice sounds different, he’s no longer sounding like a chain smoker and just, regular, honestly good for the whole looks can be deceptive vibe from him…
“Well, I did see a herd of deer from where I was walking so we could start there if you’d want.”
He honestly doesn’t seem scared from the giant wolf at all considering he’s pretty much a regular mf(despite being a hitman in his season’s au).
“Guess we’ll start heading back there huh.”
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#tmntstorycomp#tmnt 03#tmnt bishop#fargo au propaganda#tmnt fargo au#jxstacey propaganda#agent bishop#tmnt story comp#tmntstorycomp bracket polls
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tragic toxic old man gay love .... who did it better than them... nobody
#tmnt 03#tmnt 2003#baxter stockman#agent bishop#stockshop#teenage mutant ninja turtles#n#screencaps#tmnt#shredder#cartoon#tv#gay#old men yaoi#crying
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