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also wasn't sure what to do with the lan simp brothers so i guess they can sit on the side
#mdzs#wei wuxian#jin guangyao#jiang cheng#nie mingjue#sorry if someone made this post already / this is already obvious to the fandom. im new :'3#mdzs meta#anyways ig herein lies the reason why jiggy's chengxian hot takes are not quite correct#he's projecting the nieyao dynamic onto them but it's not quite the same!!!#anyways this is also why im both a jc stan and a jiggy apologist. i prefer pragmatic characters who recognize the limits of their abilities#do not attempt the impossible. u will fail and die. no main character halo for u after all#anyways i wasnt sure what to do with the lan simp brothers. whether to add a third axis/category for them or not.#lan xichen mediates between jiggy and nmj and i guess tries to see both sides? or try to get them to understand each other? idk tbh#lan wangji is just a hater though. he is 100% on wwx's side. wei ying is right about everything actually. jiang wanyin you loser bitch#yanyan speaks
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jace is not ‘pushing for war’ in the same way aegon and aemond are, and to insinuate so is ridiculous 😭
aemond specifically started a war because of his butthurt ego and inability to control his dragon, aegon celebrates this fact with a party. jace just doesn’t want his brothers death to be in vain and knows that his and his families lives are forfeit if they don’t fight back. he’s one of the only male characters in fire and blood that has to deal with the repercussions of misogynistic attacks; his mother is usurped (on account of her gender), loyalists at court (that he surely knew) were put to death for supporting his mother, she loses his baby sister in a traumatic stillbirth because of the usurpation, his brother is murdered in cold blood (he most likely blames himself for the plan that sent him to storm’s end), he’s going to die thinking he failed to save yet another brother. why would he not push for war? and why are violent misogynist one and two (who STARTED the war in the first place) allowed to react, to want revenge, to want to hurt others in response to their losses, but jace isn’t?
we can complain about the way the show frames women as the pacifist pushovers to the men being violent warmongers all day long but jace of all the male characters on screen is *not* included in that, come ON people 😒
#house of the dragon#hotd#jacaerys velaryon#jacaerys targaryen#prince jacaerys#team black#pro team black#anti team green#anti team green stans#‘he doesn’t understand the consequences of war 🤡’ he literally fucking dies what are you yapping about#get outta my face and stop trying to one up one of the best characters in this shit show#jace>>>any person on the green’s side#he dog walks them for days#i just know they’re seething bc him and the dragon twins are going to destroy their favs come season two#he is indeed the most important player on team black#cry about it
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btw what theon went through is what thousands upon thousands upon thousands of slaves still go through in essos. so, do you still feel pity for the slavers that were crucified? do you still pity the slavers killed when daenerys freed the unsullied?
i ask these questions, and yet i know that there are still many people who believe that the violence against the slavers wasn’t justified, or believe that it was simply “too much” or “not fair.” truly… what an insane hill to die on.
maybe these people should spare more empathy for the formerly enslaved instead of wasting time making up excuses (that are not supported by the text) for why the slave masters' deaths were somehow not justified 🫶
#you guys will not believe how many people try to argue in favor of the slave masters#and the other side almost always ends up saying something along the lines of:#‘what if the slavers were just secretly good and were trying to end slavery? dany never gave them a fair trial 😡’#like w h a t tf#it’s always annoying when people make up bs excuses to hate on dany by MAKING UP things that are NOT in the text !!#honestly how am i supposed to argue against what ifs#actually i can do it too: what if all the slavers were actually all psychopaths who enjoyed brutally destroying other human beings?#my ‘what if’ at least has some textual support#i honestly do not know why these people are reading the books if they just wish to change one of the most important characters storyline#asoiaf fandom critical#daenerys targaryen#daenerys appreciation#pro daenerys#anti sansa stans#cause it’s always them at the scene of the crime 😭#poor sansa you’d hate ur stans they’re nasty manipulative liars (not all just to be clear)#formally enslaved includes dany btw#i honestly think that there is something wrong with people who make excuses for fictional slave masters
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Billford Foils
@misteria247 Here's some more brain juice. Also @aria-greenhoodie i think you would like radioactive yaoi analysis.
So i got to thinking about Ford and Bill being similar due to fanfic reasons (i was brainstorming ideas about them fucking in the middle of thinking about this),and i realized that,the parallels are fucking wild. Both of them have something holding them back from becoming truly far gone in their ambitions. With Bill's being his self hatred and horrid loneliness,and Ford's being his unwavering value for his family. Bill would've fully went through with Weirdmaggedon and his desire to conquer the universe immediately,if he wasn't so fucking desperate to have Ford at his side,showing that he wanted someone REAL to witness his success rather than the fake puppets that he calls his friends aka the Henchmaniacs. Point being,Bill wanted to be on top,but as they all say,it's lonely at the top,so he decided to make himself less lonely by trying to coerce Ford into joining him which obviously backfired due to the man hating his guts. Ford would've joined Bill and or outright stayed in the multiverse rather than going back to his home dimension as he basks in the glory of FINALLY being worshipped and given the recognition he believed he deserved (despite likely being more infamous than famous in both cases),but he didn't,because he knew that he had his brother and later the twins to worry about. Ford was horrible and egotistical and too selfishly focused on his flimsy desires to think straight,but he had his family to back him up and make him realize that what he was doing was wrong. But Bill?,he had no one to help him realize his faults. He killed his parents,and his so called "friends" are only around because of being promised a party as well as safety from their decaying dimension (i.e book of bill Henchmaniacs segment). Bill was horribly alone and had NO ONE to help him deal with his problems in a more constructive less world-ending way,Ford had his family right in front of him yet he ignored them until things went to shit and he realized that he needed them. Bill and Ford are eerily similar with their shared interest in chasing lofty goals in order to make up for the aching feeling of loneliness and being misunderstood they have had their whole lives,yet one was able to overcome this feeling and discovered that he didn't need to feel seen by the whole world but just by his family whereas the other outright held onto that feeling to motivate himself as he didn't have anything else. Meaning,Ford would have easily turned out like Bill if Stan and his niblings didn't have his back. Alex hirsch you wonderful,wonderful man. This family is beautifully written and i am in tears over that fact. Also Bill and Ford are fucking husbands and the resemblances in their arcs are uncanny.
#gravity falls#bill cipher#ford pines#billford#stanford pines#stan pines#stanley pines#dipper and mabel#dipper and mabel pines#gravity falls analysis#character analysis#god they make me ill#they make me cry#i love these guys sm#pines family#ford and bill#bill x ford#ford x bill#and the worst part is. Bill was trying to take advantage of this similarity to further make the man stay at his side. but he failed.#as Ford loves his family way too damn much
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how many times does stcmo!ford beat up filbrick across the multiverses
Surprisingly, only a handful.
Ford deliberately keeps his distance for Filbrick's own safety because it is on sight otherwise.
Back when Ford first started his mission, he had actually killed a Filbrick for beating Stan to death after it was revealed that Stan broke Ford's project. Ford had let the sight of his childhood home distract him and those few seconds had cost Stan's life. After knocking Stan to the ground, Filbrick had brought his foot down on his head.
It was the raw, animal screaming that wrenched Ford out of his useless staring. Ford kicked the door in and stormed into the living room, his foot slipping in blood. Ford didn't even register what he was seeing at first. Stanford was folded over Stan's unmoving chest and keening like a dying animal. Caryn was clearly in shock, her hands covering her mouth as she stared at her boys.
Filbrick stood off to the side, watching Ford with furrowed brows. He had blood all over him, dripping off his fists and pooling beneath his right shoe. Ford's mind was blank as he went straight for Filbrick's wrists to break them, but that was only the beginning.
Ford had been dragged off of Filbrick's mutilated corpse by the police.
#gravity falls#side quest#somebody to call my own au#lore#ford pines#stan pines#stan and ford#stan twins#ask box#tw: major character death#tw: murder
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YES, the Lady bred her bloodline with the intention that they would die as sacrificial lambs and be a meatsuit for her undead Criston Cole Champion.
I said those things on twt a year ago
But instead a bunch of freaks (all katherine haters) called me a "miS0gYniSt🤪" for simply stating a fact
You know what's misogynistic? Hating on Katherine because she's a soft femme girl.
I dislike the Lady because of her hypocrisy. In fact, the Lady were a man I'd hate her a billion times more, and if Sarcean were a woman (Femcean supremacy!!! I hc him as genderqueer tbh) I'd stan him a zillion times more.
#proof that I will still passionately loathe the Lady if she were male is how I was vocally anti-Dumbledore when i was a HP fan#i LOATHE all kinds of Light Side figureheads they're ALL HYPOCRITES#being a cis gay man doesnt make em any more bearable#Rhaenyra is a fem Sarcean tho they whitewash her in the show!! Boo give me my unapologetic tragic war criminal queen#like i said: do check my socials about any bad things against Katherine cause i never said any😘😘#sarcean#will kempen#dark heir#dark rise#dark heir spoilers#visander#the lady#white death#katherine kent#not Me stanning TONS of female characters#only to be called misogynistic for refusing to stan this#cosplayer con artist hypocrite who walks&talks like my abuser
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This man has a PhD.
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I honestly love how unhinged this man is in the movie. He casually strolls into Jerome Horwitz Elementary, gets a job, immediately clocks Melvin as a suck up teacher's pet, then reveals his evil motive to a classroom of children. He carries around a portable cage in his pocket. He refused the Nobel prize because he was slighted (fair tbh). His first thought when seeing a man-shaped hole in the principle's office was that he'd found the right batshit insane place to use as cover.
What an iconic little maniac. He deserves a spin-off.
#captain underpants#professor poopypants#george beard#melvin sneedly#harold hutchins#benjamin krupp#principle krupp#we stan a short king#I wish there was a CU animated series where he just sticks around as the science teacher#If I can get that far into Redux he's definitely going to be a side character that the boys either have to thwart or employ in their scheme#I kinda prefer Pilkey Krupp’s design over my other version#Might return to it#(no you aren't going crazy--I do keep going back and editing the image due to mistakes I've realized after posting AGHAHS DGKJHASDFKJH)
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gravity falls au concept: in stan’s mindscape at the end of weirdmageddon, bill gets a glimpse of his future and sees the theraprism and decides that he should just curse the pines family instead of resurrection. the curse goes wrong because he’s dying, and he ends up accidentally bestowing (or cursing) near godlike power (or a fourth of it) on dipper, mabel, stan and ford.
the au is called pines pantheon.
#and only these four because of gravity falls’ weirdness magnetism#instead of the ENTIRE living pines family#a side effect of this is that they are completely locked in gravity falls because ford doesn’t want to release the gravity falls weirdness#pines pantheon au#because i wanna do character designs for this#this is basically just a mix of transcendence/immortal pines/one of us au. has there been an au where stan became a god?#gravity falls#gravity falls au#edit: ALSO TELL ME IF IM REINVENTING THE WHEEL HERE and also the name of that au cuz i’m really interested and out of the loop
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not to be a hater but certain medias should simply never be found by the actor x reader crowd and saltburn is a perfect example
because with that array of fascinating characters and insane displays of queer psychosexual depravity? imagine being like yeah actually the most interesting part is the math nerd with 5 minutes of screentime
#saw someone in the tag being like ugh oliver was so mean for ignoring him like GIRL.....#also#if your main take on it is 'oliver is a good old queer predator creep and felix is a perfect heterosexual angel'.......you're uninteresting#TO ME!#like obviously oliver IS a creep and a predator#but the layers to that dynamic from both sides are insane and so compelling and fascinating#felix being capable of casual cruelty while also absolutely being a victim is what elevates the character above dead wife status imho#anyway#stan venetia and farleigh!! forever#saltburn
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“Sincerely yours, Stan, PS: We should be together too”
Stan Mitchell stimboard :3
📝 🪦 📺 | ❤️ 💌 💔 | 🌧️ 🚙 🌉
#genuinely my favorite fictional character of all time he’s my everything#sorry i’m insane.#hey if you didn’t know this song is a vent about how eminem felt about ll cool j and how it feels to be on the both sides of the obsession#HE’S STAN. DO U UNDERSTAND.#anyways lmk if u want my ten hour playlist for stan it’s my everything#stim#my post#stimboard#stimboards#stimming#eminem#stan#stan mitchell#mmlp#lovecore#letters#red#black#tattoo#drinks#writing#special interest#stims#gif#needles
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Kaldo is so weird and useless I can't help but love him, everyone read the Mashle manga so you can obsess over him too he's like if Jouno and Tecchou had a child I'm so obsessed
#kaldo gehenna#I LOVE HIM SO MUCH#officially a kaldo stan now#hes perfect to me....#he puts honey on his sashimi...i cant NOT love him#i suffer from side character lover syndrome#mashle
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#mdzs#wei wuxian#lan wangji#jiang cheng#nie mingjue#jin guangyao#lan xichen#wen ning#su she#jin ling#yanyan polls#several characters excluded because i think it would suck to argue with them online no matter what. there is simply no path to victory#if you debate wwx you're guaranteed to win. because eventually all the ppl who hate him dogpile him and side with you by default#eventually someone digs up the 200-page callout doc someone wrote about wwx 3 years ago. and then it's joever for him#they mass-report wwx until his twitter gets deleted. and it feels bad but i guess you won?#perils of mob rule i guess...central mdzs theme...#in this universe jiang cheng contributes to like 40% of the posts on r/copypasta. he wrote the navy seals copypasta 100% unironically#the only social media jiggy has is tied to his professional career...he can't be a bitch on main....#you can debate su minshan easily because lwj's stan army already hates him#and chances are he'll behave badly enough in your argument that the stan army will have plenty of material to cancel him with
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When it comes to Penelope I feel like a lot of her fans take any valid criticism towards her and turn it into hate, which does her character a disservice. While some people do hate on her, a lot of it holds valid reasons. Admitting that she has hurt many people isn't wrong because she has, it's been shown on throughout the show and the impacts it can have. From labeling Daphne as "unmarriageable" during her first season and events that followed, her labeling Eloise as being part of a group of rebels, the terms she used to describe Kate [and Simon]-- which carried racial undertones no matter how you try to spin it, who didn't even know personally at that point, what she did Marina. All of these were very harmful and to say that none of these characters should feel angry, that they should just forgive Penelope without any work put into it is very laughable (especially because she's still writing as Whistledown and put many, namely women, at risk during a time where reputation is everything--something in which Penelope herself faces). With this being said, criticizing her actions, at least for me, doesn't come from a complete place of hate but more so from believing that she can be better if she puts in the work. By ignoring all that she's done and having her get her happily ever after so easily in the end, to be honest, would ultimately feel lackluster. I feel like she still has room to grow, but it will take a lot of work and, I personally, think seeing her renavigate who she is with who she wants to be outside of Lady Whistledown would be very interesting.
#bridgerton#penelope featherington#idk if this counts as anti but I'll label it as such too#anti penelope featherington#bc some people don't see it her referring to kate as a “beast” was wrong as hell and definitely side eye worthy coming from this yte woman#like she didn't even know kate and wrote that about her#and her ableist comments towards george were absolutely unnecessary as well#so deny that none of these things holds impact would be highly untrue and make the story very flat#i do think pen provides valuable insight to a different perspective of the ton and was helpful in eloise seeing a different view#so that's one [of very few] reasons that i think she should have a chance of redeeming herself#but that also doesn't mean that any of these characters should forgive her either#penelope stans and/or polin stans do not interact if you can't be respectful!#(also bc some people like to say “but the bridgertons are privileged and got their happy endings”#one just bc they got their happy endings in the end doesn't mean that what pen wrote didn't put them in difficult situations or that she#should be thanked as if she helped them [with daphne that was mainly her and her own mother's doing]#[for eloise that different bc it puts her and her family under political scrutiny as well bc do you honestly think being labeled as associat#-ing with rebels would be a good thing?]
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Most fucked up thing in the world is when your mutual sends you something so excitedly and then you try to look at it and it turns out you can't because op has you blocked so you just have to pathetically crawl back to your friend like uhhh so bad news... Screenshot for the needy please...
#im ngl this is how i find out people on mdzs tumblr block me..#for some reason ive been blocked by a substantial number of both fervent wwx anti every other character stans and fervent jgy / jc#anti wwx stans so i dont know how i managed to be controversial on both sides of the political spectrum.#like this i suppose i am lan xichen
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i was the target demographic of "fan who would hate this season the most". my critrole tastes were specifically aligned and designed in a lab to hate nearly every single creative decision and change that was made
#aroace [vine boom] percy stan [vine boom] glintshore is my favorite arc [vine boom] percy and keyleth is my fav dynamic in vm [vine boom]#ripley is my favorite villain [vine boom] not particularly hot on vaxleth but i tolerate it bc keyleth is such a big fav and she#still has a rich and nuanced character even outside of that romance so it's fine [vine boom]#i liked the focus on vex this season until it was made clear that it was so she could be the designated griever over percy#and like the other characters would barely give a fuck at all#tbh the only part of me that won was my zerxus stanning side#i'm gonna be real if they adapt exu calamity i need i NEED brennan to write/co write the screenplay#i do not trust it with anyone else. i've lost my faith in cr adaptations with this singular season#sorry for bitching so hard but oh my god. oh my god i hated this so much. i hated this SO MUCH#3/10 the animation was gorgeous and i loved the pike/zerxus episode#but also i feel much sadder over the season letting me down than any emotional beats that happened in it#cr#cr1#tlovm spoilers#tlovm critical#HOW CAN THEY TELL US THAT PERCY FEELS GUILT AND HE DOESNT WANT TO BE FREE OF ORTHAX#WHEN THEY SPENT ZERO TIME CENTERING IT WHATSOEVER#im going to SCREAM
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In your Somebody To Call My Own AU what is the absolute saddest Stanley Ford’s ever come across? Is there any he couldn’t end up saving?
The saddest Stan Ford had ever encountered was a Stan that accidentally killed his brother. When Ford showed up, Stan was kneeling with his brother's body cradled in his arms, sobbing apologies and begging him to wake up. During the confrontation with the journal/portal, Stan had grabbed Stanford and thrown him at the ground instead of shoving him, and Stanford hit his head on the base of the lever at an odd angle that fractured his skull and killed him instantly. Ford was rooted on the spot in horror at how inconsolable Stan was, not realizing that Stan had pulled a gun from the back of his jeans until he heard the hammer click. Ford registered what was happening a moment too late, and Stan squeezed the trigger right as Ford lunged for him.
Ford couldn't sleep or keep any food down for days.
#gravity falls#side quest#somebody to call my own au#stan pines#ford pines#stan twins#ask box#tw: major character death#tw: suicide#tw: accidental murder
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